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Only that which you know for yourself and experience consciously within yourself is of importance, and constitutes the truth for you.That which may be told you by others, even by me, serves no vital purpose, except to enhance or corroborate an already known truth, or to create illusions or responsibility until it is either rejected or experienced by you in your own consciousness.
Do you understand what I mean?
Reality is based on an observation, limited by knowledge and reinforced by a perception.
Phillip Brownlee: I feel the thread several subjects below, STOP WASTING WATER, is one of the more significant of your WE Blog series. I would like to see you do another thread on the subject of Kansas water resources. Then publish condensed portions of the postings in the EAGLE to show how dangerous this situation will soon become to all of Kansas including Wichita.
I didn’t get into the water thread, because it already had so many comments.
But the concern for Wichita and Cheney Reservoir is that when the Army Corps of Engineers made these lakes for supplying water, they called them 100 year lakes, because they knew that over time they would turn into marshes or dry up.
If you have ever been to Cheney lately. You can actually walk out into the lake for several hundred feet in some areas and your head will still be above water. The silt is so thick and deep that Cheney Lake is becoming shallower by the day.
Very true Joe – just another example of engineering without science.
Oh great… moral relativity crap…
Well good morning to you too Nathan!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism
American exceptionalism, a term coined by Alexis de Tocqueville in 1831, has been historically referred to as the perception that the United States differs qualitatively from other developed nations, because of its unique origins, national credo, historical evolution, and distinctive political and religious institutions.[1]
American exceptionalism is the idea that the United States and the American people hold a special place in the world, by offering opportunity and hope for humanity, derived from a unique balance of public and private interests governed by constitutional ideals that are focused on personal and economic freedom. It is close to the Manifest Destiny, a term used by Jackson Democrats in the 1840s to promote the annexation of much of what is now the Western United States (the Oregon Territory, the Texas Annexation, and the Mexican Cession). The term was then used in the 1890s by Republicans as a theoretical justification for U.S. expansion outside of North America.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0808/p16s01-bogn.html
Time for another religious revival?
Alright everybody who dances….Salina just posted a nasty anti-democratic bit.Conga anyone?
here’s his dirt on us libs.from the washington post of course.man we be some mean sumbiches.
here’s the way the article starts.
WASHINGTON–My brief and unhappy experience with the hate and vitriol of bloggers on the liberal side of the aisle comes from the last several months I spent campaigning for a longtime friend, Joe Lieberman.
Anybody here ever defend liberals?Here’s your chance!Bash, defend, or stand back!
eh, I’ll stay in the car on this one…
I would say you’re a chicken,but you knew that. HA
Okay, I charlie mike’d without back-up.I wonder if it’s an ambush?
Two Muslim mothers are sitting in a cafe chatting over a pint of goat’s milk. The older of the mothers pulls her bag out and starts flipping through photos and they start reminiscing.
“This is my oldest son Mohammed. He’s 24 years old now.”
“Yes, I remember him as a baby,” says the other mother cheerfully.
“He’s a martyr now, though,” mum confides.
“Oh, so sad dear,” says the other.
“And this is my second son Kalid. He’s 21.”
“Oh, I remember him,” says the other happily. “He had such curly hair when he was born.”
“He’s a martyr, too,” says mum quietly.
“Oh gracious me,” says the other.
“And this is my third son. My baby. My beautiful Ahmed. He’s 18,” she whispers.
“Yes,” says the friend enthusiastically, “I remember when he first started school.”
“He is a martyr, also,” says mum, with tears in her eyes.
After a pause and a deep sigh, the second Muslim mother looks wistfully at the photographs and says……
….. “They blow up so fast, don’t they?”
Where is Dave today? He did so well on his debut, we want more. Let’s take up the chant!
Dave! Dave! Dave! Dave!
…and no picture of connie morris today?
(doing cheech & chong)WHO? NO, DAVE’S NOT HERE MAN.
KsFarmGirl: I hope you will weigh in on the thread about 20 paragraphs below, “Stop Wasting (Kansas) Water” with your western Kansas perspective. Or weigh in on this more current “open thread” where it is more likely to be read.
Although I spent a lot of time in Western Kansas when growing up (Pratt, Montezuma, Dodge City, Garden City, Cimarron, Scott City), I have rarely been west of Pratt in recent years.
Do you have any comments about the Arkansas River drying up? Is that dry-up line moving east? What about the plethora of ethanol manufacturing plants proposed for western Kansas — is this good or bad considering water requirements? Do you remember the old sugar beet industry out around Garden City? Is there a population decline in western Kansas? Any dust storms out there so far?
Hank – I guess I could write one about two Israeli mothers comparing how many babies their sons had blown up with their precision guided missles.
Maybe you could then work into the joke how the Hezbolah then carried those dead babies around up in the air until the CNN cameras could get there.
All in all, if I had to choose sides, I’d be on the side that taught their children to love and to learn to fly fighters out of patriotism instead of the side that taught hatred and how to turn their children into human bombs.
It was a joke Ben, a sick joke, but a joke. Hezbolah is a terrorist organization with the elimination of Israel as its goal.Their fighters hide behind women and children.
Hank
Hank,
Are you suggesting they be given a multi-billion $ military force, so they don’t have to become martyrs? Is war more humane and acceptable when done by pushing buttons?
Ben,
Shouldn’t you be a human shield in lebanon somewhere right now?
Those precision guided bombs that Israel is using could be replaced with WWII style carpet bombing.
Not that you care since you don’t seem to understand how tactics or weapons work or their intent.
You seem to be more interested in your hype against Israel than the truth.
Cosmos,
Yes war is more human when pushing buttons.
Dear Cosmos,
I’m suggesting that we help Israel in any way required so they can erase the cancerous, festering sore on the butt of civilization that parades around as Hezbolah.
Hank
Dear Cosmos,
Let me know if you need help with any of the big words:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Y2EwOWE0ZTA1Y2M1ZTFhN2Q2Y2YwYWM0ZTdhNzM0ZWY=
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDBhMzg5Mzk4NjQ5MjM5OTJhZjRjMWQ4OWMzNDhmMzk=
Hank
“Open thread” is to Hank Price as _____ is to ______.
A. a red flag, a bull
B. oxycontin, Rush Limbaugh
C. RNC Chair Ken Mehlmen, a gay bar
D. FOX news, swift-boat liars
E. all of the above.
If you answered E, you are correct. Take the rest of the day off.
The elimination of Israel, Zionist controlled Israel, as its goal is a pure winner. They’re an expensive pain in the ass.
Crude just passed 80 dollars with no end in sight.
They love to murder children { 529 head shots one year } so I guess they feel cheated if one blows-up and takes out some Zionists pigs who would have murdered them anyway.
The Zionist pigs are destroying Lebanon for not disarming Hezbollah, something which the Zionist pigs can’t seem to do with all their US high-tech armament.
So blaming Lebanon for not doing it seems a bit two-faced but that is standard for Zionist pigs.
Good Jews have to suffer and be put into the line of fire, either on the front-line or within rocket range while the Zionist pigs “party it up,” all safe and sound.
Nathan: “Yes war is more human when pushing buttons.”
Actually, hand-to-hand combat is more “human”.
Dear Hank,Let me know if you need help finding more credible, logical, and rational sources than your horribly biased Nat Review.
You really want to do Lerner’s preemptive strike? You like the way our 1st “cake-walk” is going?Thank you for the insight into who, and what you believe.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson
Cosmos,
As usual, the last resort when engaged in a debate by many on the left they resort to nit picking the typos.
It took about a week to roll over Saddams forces and remove him from power. I would call that a cake walk.
Hank, I looked at your links I understood the words alright. Then I noticed they were all in the wrong place. They should go like this:http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1839442,00.html
Hank?
“All in all, if I had to choose sides, I’d be on the side that taught their children to love and to learn to fly fighters out of patriotism instead of the side that taught hatred and how to turn their children into human bombs.”
Hank I know you are a sometime viewer of the Daily Show. I guess you missed the bit they had the other day where they showed a little Israeli girl signing a missilie!
Next to all the other little kids messages she had written “For Israel!” For the “I” in Israel she had substituted a rocket. Her missive was just one of many.
Teaching kids hate is apparently not beyond the Israelis EITHER.
JR,
I am sure that is what the little girl was thinking when she signed that missile was…hate?
Try again.
Hey cosmos,
You bet I’m for a first strike! Thanks for the link! Looks like Hanson is my kind of guy. I’ve been reading his works for years, great link.
Hank
Hey JR,
You should have seen some of the messages we wrote on our missles when I was in the Navy!
When you care enough to send your very best!
Hank
No Nathan – but say hi to the IEDs after raping a 14-year-old in Iraq.
And yes, Nathan, I DO understand the intent. Terrorize the population into submission and hopefully trigger a Civil War. The more children slaughtered the batter.
Hank – “taught their children to love and to learn to fly fighters”
And it shows love to blow up other children from those fighters’ missles?
Well why don’t you tell ME what a little girl is thinking when she signs a missile?
I’ve little doubt the Israelis teach their kids hate. I just don’t think we hear about it in our media as this example shows.
“JR,
I am sure that is what the little girl was thinking when she signed that missile was…hate?”
Yes Nathan – HATE! Hate enough to want to kill the children on the other side.
According to israeli figures the majority of Hizbollah hits have been against Israeli military personnel. On the other side the VAST majority of the Lebanese dead have been civilians – many hundreds of miles from the combat zone. Israel even targeted a food warehouse in far northeast Lebanon in order to starve the population.
Hank – Israel CREATED Hizbollah when it invaded and occupied Lebanon (with US help) and slaughtered thousands of Lebanese. The Lebanese don’t NEED to teach their children to hate Israel; the Israelis do that for them – just like they do with their jack-booted occupation of Palestine.
I am losing lots of illusions abot Israel.
I bet the more I learn the more I lose.
If I were lending direct support it would be a bit more than humen shield to sacrifice myself to israeli civilian slaughter. Instead, perhaps something personally signed to return the favor to them.
“how the Hezbolah then carried those dead babies around up in the air until the CNN cameras could get there.”
Yeah Hank – about how we don’t want the world to see the products of out tax dollars. If it were MY child I would want the world to know.
Of course, I could also joke about US soldiers dousing a dead rape/murder victim with gasoline and torching it.
War is hell. Once it begins, to point fingers at one side or the other and say that they are the worse in their conduct of the war is ridiculous. For every alleged atrocity on one side, there is one on the other. There is only the victor and the vanquished.
Israel is not going to stop until Hezbollah is disarmed and no longer a threat. Nor should they.
If it was such a cakewalk to roll over Saddam’s forces – then WHY ARE WE STILL FIGHTING????
CR,Maybe they’re more willing to fight an occupying army than they were to defend Saddam.
I wonder if the families of the iraq war dead are thinking “cake walk”?
what is the number now? 2500 + of OUR dead? Countless others dead?
Sounds like a BLOODY cake walk.
Wink, why would I interrupt something this gory with a boring comment on water? :)
I’ll think about it and try to weigh in. The short version?
ethanol = bad. Big net water user and not a net energy producer. There may be a role, but not west of Salina. For DAMN sure not in sw or nw ks.
And dont even get me started on the evils of irrigated corn. Or packing plants that use tons of water to process tons of cows that ate tons of irrigated grain….
The over allocation for the past 20 years of an ever smaller water supply, both alluvial and aquifer, is a given.
We have too many straws in the drink is a statement no one argues with. However, whose straws remain, and how hard they get to suck will be the questions of the future.
If you wanna talk civil war, forget social issues. Ellsworth pissed all over us and sided with Hays going to Cedar Bluff to drain it. They thought it was funny and it would keep greedy hays out of kanopolis.
Now, the Smoky is going dry, no irrigation is being cut back, Hays is sucking harder, Russell is sucking TWICE as hard out of Cedar Bluff to support their freakin’ ethanol plant.
Salina wants to go to Kanopolis, McPherson is looking at Kanopolis, Hays is looking at Wilson…
And the governor’s office has politicized the water supply. THAT is the big danger to the future of western ks.
The water in her administration is clearly used as political payment (witness john bird and steve irsik) and this charade of Hays having water rights superior to all is gonna set a precedent for all municipalities to hog the water and create fights over the puddles.
Recreational use of water is at the bottom of the list, so kiss outdoor tourism goodbye, and let Russell build another ethanol plant it cant support? Let hays water their god damn golf course with water from Cedar Bluff? hehe. Governor Leadership indeed.
The concept of beneficial use, in otherwords, all water is not created equal, could solve lots of problems, but the sebelius administration, in the form of joe “darth cheney” harkins, tracy streeter and mike hayden are ignoring it and holding an “auction” with water going to the highest political bidder.
Too long to discuss here, and no one really gives a shit anyway.
Until their own tap goes dry. And governor leadership will be in washington by then, john bird retired, joe harkins still doing evil all over the state, and tracy streeter will retire in some government hack job.
So dont come crying to us when YOUR water is given away as political geldt. You think it is funny now that we are having problems, but trust me, yours are on the way. Water and shit roll down hill. And your neighbors will cut your throats as you sleep to get your water.
Like John Bird did to Trego County.
Thirty pieces of silver anyone?
Oh and did I mention that John “I love water fights” Montgomery is moving to Hutch.
Heheh. Good luck with him and his totally moronic opinions about water in kansas. parochial bastid.
KsFarmGirl: Thanks for commenting on the Kansas water situation from your western Kansas perspective. My suggestion to the EAGLE is that they collect and publish some of these comments to try to raise awareness of the water problem in southern and western Kansas. PLEASE TAKE NOTE WICHITA EAGLE EDITORIAL STAFF. JWink
KsFarmGirl: Was John Montgomery formerly associated with the Junction City newspaper? Why is he moving to Hutchinson? What was his position on the Kansas water situation? I guess I’m out of touch on that one.
KsFarmGirl: Was John Montgomery formerly associated with the Junction City newspaper? Why is he moving to Hutchinson? What was his position on the Kansas water situation? I guess I’m out of touch on that one.
KsFarmGirl: Was John Montgomery formerly associated with the Junction City newspaper? Why is he moving to Hutchinson? What was his position on the Kansas water situation? I guess I’m out of touch on that one.
KsFarmGirl: Was John Montgomery formerly associated with the Junction City newspaper? Why is he moving to Hutchinson? What was his position on the Kansas water situation? I guess I’m out of touch on that one.
Every time the EAGLE gives that fuzzy number/letter game to identify, you get the dreaded double posting! Thanks a lot, EAGLE.
Damn: the dreaded quadruple posting just gave me a serious fright.
Don’t confuse the John Montgomery publishers in Kansas:
John D Montgomery, age 39, was at the Hays Daily News and is moving to Hutchinson — see http://www.hutchnews.com/news/local/stories/publisher072806.shtml.
John G Montgomery, age 66, is the publisher of the Junction City Daily Union.
Ann Coulter intelligent saying of the day: “I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote.”—Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01
Brownback accepted $42,000 from Jack Abramoff, a disgraced ex-lobbyist involved in a wide-reaching public corruption scandal. This prompted Wyandotte Nation Chief Leaford Bearskin to state in a press release that he was “outraged and so very disappointed to learn that Senator Brownback reportedly received large sums of dirty money from Jack Abramoff, a Washington D.C. lobbyist who abused the political system for financial gain at the expense of the Native American community.”
John the old man is the grand master of the kansas democrats. He owned the Junction paper and others, including the Hays Daily.
Johnny the lessor is the scion of the publishing family. He has fewer brains and more balls than his old man. Nice combination. He also fancies himself a democrat player behind the scenes, but I hardly call planting big fat wet sloppy fawing kisses on the governor’s ass makes him a player.
his position on water is Hays first, and the rest of the state can eat cake. No matter how much money Cedar Bluff brings in to the region, no matter how many national events are held there, he just wants that water to make Hays’ golf course green.
Dammit, there are doctors they are trying to recruit who want green grass for their putts. And John “I heart myself” Montgomery is gonna see those golfers are not denied by the other communites in the 18 county region.
heheheheh. You all are about to be graced with his outrageous nonsense that pretends to be journalism.
hee hee hee hee hee. Sara Kessinger has my deepest sympathies.
Too bad HER daddy doesnt own the company.
…or the governor who make water the political currency of the relm.
Rewards anyone?
AND WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO THREAD ON JOE LOSER TODAY? NO THREAD ON NED WINNING?
sore losers? heheh. When is Hank paying Ben?
GO NED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An open letter to the American president
By Salim El Hoss (former Prime Minister of Lebanon)Special to The Daily StarThursday, August 03, 2006
Dear Mr. Bush,
We heard you express your regrets regarding the casualties of Israel’s ravaging war against my country, Lebanon.
I hope you have been furnished with a true profile of the atrocities being perpetrated in my country. You pose as being at war with terrorism. Let me honestly tell you: Charity starts at home.
Israel is wantonly indulging in the most horrendous forms of terrorism in Lebanon: indiscriminately killing innocent civilians at random; not sparing children, elderly or handicapped people; demolishing buildings over their residents’ heads; and destroying all infrastructure, roads, bridges, water and power arteries, harbors, air strips and storage facilities. Nothing moving on the highways is spared, not even ambulances, trucks, trailers, cars or even motorcycles, all in violation of the Geneva Conventions and human rights.
The displaced population has reached more than one fourth of the total population of my country – all suffering the harshest and most miserable of conditions. The victims include thousands of killed and maimed.
If this is not terrorism, what is?
Israel’s savage assault has been labeled retribution for Hizbullah’s abduction of two Israeli soldiers. This smacks of collective punishment, which constitutes a brazen violation of the Geneva Conventions and human rights. Furthermore, the alibi is far from plausible. The two Israeli soldiers were abducted for the express purpose of reaching a swap of hostages with Israel. In fact, Israel had acceded more than once to such swaps in the past. Why would a swap of prisoners be acceptable at one time and a taboo, rather a casus belli, at another? This created a conviction among the Lebanese that the sweeping assault against them was premeditated, and the abduction was only a tenuous excuse.
Israel is indulging in terrorism at its worst, at its ugliest, using the most lethal and sophisticated weapons you have supplied them.http://www.dailystar.com.lb
We the Lebanese are justified in seeing in Israel as a most atrocious terrorist power, and seeing in you a direct partner. Mr. President: You are indeed a terrorist practicing the worst variant of terrorism as you condone the annihilation of my country, precluding a cease-fire to be announced, supporting the aggression against my people politically and diplomatically and bolstering Israel’s destructive arsenal with the most lethal weaponry.
Mr. President: You are not fooling anybody with your alleged war against terrorism. In our perspective, you and Israel are the most unscrupulous terrorists on earth. If you want to fight terrorism, we suggest that you start with your administration and your hideous ally, Israel.
You repeatedly claim that Israel is acting in self-defense. How preposterous! Self-defense on other people’s occupied territory is tantamount to one thing: blatant aggression.
You call Hizbullah a terrorist organization. We call it a legitimate resistance movement. There would have been no military wing of Hizbullah if there had been no Lebanese territory under Israeli occupation, if there had been no Lebanese hostages languishing in Israeli jails, and if Lebanon had not been exposed to almost daily Israeli intrusions into its airspace and territorial waters, and to sporadic incursions into Lebanese land and bombardment of civilian targets.
You cannot eliminate a party by demolishing a whole country. This would have been achieved peacefully by Israel withdrawing from the land it occupies, releasing Lebanese prisoners, and desisting from further acts of aggression against Lebanon.
Israel is the most horrendous terrorist power. And you, Mr. President, are unmistakably a direct partner, and hence a straight terrorist.
Salim al-Hoss, former prime minister of Lebanon
August 1, 2006
I wonder of the BushBots are getting nervous …
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/nation/15230766.htm
U.S. seeks to amend war crimes regulations
Quote of the Day:
“… the truth is bitter and unpleasant to people who do not think, while things that are not true are sweet and attractive. One might draw an analogy to people who have sore eyes: when one’s eyes are sore, it is painful to look at the light an it is comfortable to look into the darkness even though one can’t see very much…. Now, as I have said, it is difficult for people to learn. But it is even more difficult for people to change their beliefs, especially when they have been hearing nonsense for a long time…. It is not easy to alter their opinions, regardless of how many arguments you have to prove their error”
Dio Chrysostom
(Greek philosopher AD40 – AD112)
V.L.R.B!!
Should we help MeadowLark poop with his agenda? Probably not, but I couldn’t help myself and I think he/she knew it.
http://www.kansasmeadowlark.com/2006/07-03/index.htm
And here we go.
Middle of the night, after the “scary terrorist” meme has been totally discredited and Joe Lieberman accordingly defeated.
With Israel on the march against those same “scary terrorists”.
We get a Faux (Fox) breaking news on to quote ” a plot bigger than 911″
“Color” alerts FAILED
WMD “threats” to America NOT found in Iraq.
The neocon imperial agenda in peril.
And so FOX (anchor Tony Snow now bush press secretary) in coordination with Tony ( at bush’s feet) Blair shill up this new phony threat.
I was just the first to catch it.
Heckler, Nathan, Outlander, Paul F Rosell, Hank,
right wing fear chickenhawks arise!
Me? I now take Britain somewhat less seriously than I do the US.What a well placed joke!—–
This is nothing short of desperation.
The “we need to restrict your rights to protect you” crowd in a last ditch attempt to “save” us from an imaginary threat. That in the face of Americans no longer buying the “sky is falling ” crap.
TIMING folks. Consider the timing.
The arena developers are in the process of purchasing existing buildings that need to be removed for the new facility. A story on Ch. 12 last evening said they had purchased a building for $290,000. The appraised value of that building (which will be torn down) was $110,000. Is this kind of thing troubling to anyone else.. or is it just me?
“The “we need to restrict your rights to protect you” crowd in a last ditch attempt to “save” us from an imaginary threat. That in the face of Americans no longer buying the “sky is falling ” crap.”
“Me? I now take Britain somewhat less seriously than I do the US.”
JR: Gues what? My wife is supposed to be flying home today through Heathrow. Is that close enough for you?
Words can’t describe the foolisness of your comments.
Out -I’m praying that your wife makes it back to you safe and sound
kansassam: The whole arena mess is extremely troubling. Just like this new fiasco of building a training center at Jabara just for employees or future employees of the out-of-state owned airplane manufacturers.
Have you ever noticed the common denominator in these projects is “design and build” at taxpayer expense. Then let the chips fall where they might on who is going to pay for the maintenance, utilities, staffing, bond payments, etc.
In the case of this “Jabara” Training Center, I still don’t understand why the airplane manufacturing training program was eliminated at the WATC training center downtown for lack of students. But now it is to be replaced in this new multi-million dollar building at Jabara airport to be built at taxpayer expense.
You would think in the very least it could be located in or near Wichita’s downtown business district in order to be centrally located for students that come in from throughout the metropolitan area and surrounding counties.
BEST LOCATION WOULD BE ON THE SITE PROPOSED FOR THE DOWNTOWN ARENA — AND THEN FORGET THE ARENA!I also question who is paying for the bonds? Also are the airplane manufacturing companies contributing to this operation on an on-going basis?
In my opinion, the County is setting itself up for arm-twisting from almost every industry in Sedgwick County, such as the hospitals, and the National Guard units, and the Unions, etc. who can make a case for a central training facility for their industry.
And we need to discuss the new jail space which is driven by reimbursement from the state and federal governments, both of whom are borrowing money (from you, the taxpayer) to pay to the county for jail space. This is basically a massive shell game. What is the current debt of the federal government — $9 trillion dollars?
There must be new innovative ways to transistion and rehabilitate people who are serving in the prisons.
What ever happened to spending taxes for public purposes that returns benefits to all taxpayers?
WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE REST OF THE CURRENT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO RETURN THE COURTHOUSE TO SOME SEMBLANCE OF SANITY.
kansassam: The whole arena mess is extremely troubling. Just like this new fiasco of building a training center at Jabara just for employees or future employees of the out-of-state owned airplane manufacturers.
Have you ever noticed the common denominator in these projects is “design and build” at taxpayer expense. Then let the chips fall where they might on who is going to pay for the maintenance, utilities, staffing, bond payments, etc.
In the case of this “Jabara” Training Center, I still don’t understand why the airplane manufacturing training program was eliminated at the WATC training center downtown for lack of students. But now it is to be replaced in this new multi-million dollar building at Jabara airport to be built at taxpayer expense.
You would think in the very least it could be located in or near Wichita’s downtown business district in order to be centrally located for students that come in from throughout the metropolitan area and surrounding counties.
BEST LOCATION WOULD BE ON THE SITE PROPOSED FOR THE DOWNTOWN ARENA — AND THEN FORGET THE ARENA!I also question who is paying for the bonds? Also are the airplane manufacturing companies contributing to this operation on an on-going basis?
In my opinion, the County is setting itself up for arm-twisting from almost every industry in Sedgwick County, such as the hospitals, and the National Guard units, and the Unions, etc. who can make a case for a central training facility for their industry.
And we need to discuss the new jail space which is driven by reimbursement from the state and federal governments, both of whom are borrowing money (from you, the taxpayer) to pay to the county for jail space. This is basically a massive shell game. What is the current debt of the federal government — $9 trillion dollars?
There must be new innovative ways to transistion and rehabilitate people who are serving in the prisons.
What ever happened to spending taxes for public purposes that returns benefits to all taxpayers?
WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE REST OF THE CURRENT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO RETURN THE COURTHOUSE TO SOME SEMBLANCE OF SANITY.
Thank you Julie. She is doing fine. Heathrow is a zoo though. She will try again tomorrow.