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- By Phillip Brownlee
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“There are some people who, if they don’t already know, you can’t tell ‘em.” – Yogi Berra
Russian scientist predicts global cooling
Khabibullo Abdusamatov expects a repeat of the period known as the Little Ice Age. During the 16th century, the Baltic Sea froze so hard that hotels were built on the ice for people crossing the sea in coaches.
The Little Ice Age is believed to have contributed to the end of the Norse colony in Greenland, which was founded during an interval of much warmer weather.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060825-091321-7556r
This guy is obviously insane.
I didn’t really say everything I said……..Yogi Berra
China will overtake us in our lifetimes.JACKSON HOLE, Wyoming, Aug 25 (Reuters) – China’s economy could be the world’s largest within 25 years, although it won’t be able to keep up its current break-neck pace forever, Bank of Israel Governor Stanley Fischer said on Friday.
Fischer, once the IMF’s No. 2 official, said growth was likely to ease when Beijing took the necessary step of letting its yuan currency rise.
“If the Chinese economy were to continue to grow in real terms at a rate 7 percent greater than that of the United States economy at a constant exchange rate — as it has for over 20 years — its GDP would indeed overtake that of the United states in about another quarter century,” he told central bankers and top academics from around the globe.
Nice thing about the Little Ice Age was that it led to the Golden Age of Beer.Grapes for wine could no longer be cultivated in Northern Europe and thus Brewing Beer became prevalent.
Adversity breeds invention.
From a post on a political forum who’s name I won’t mention.
No one goes there nowadays, it’s too crowded…..Yogi Berra
Steve! I doubt they will. Yes! They have been experiencing rapid growth, but it will hit critical mass and slow down.
China has already seen the loss of over 6 million manufacturing jobs in the past couple of years. It has begun!
Heckler! Cheers on the Beers. :D
I always keep a supply of stimulant handy in case I see a snake–which I also keep handy…..W. C. Fields
If there is a climate change, like a global cooling, it can still be provoked by the greenhouse gases.
Nevertheless we tend to forget that even if our planet’s climate in fact doesn’t change, we still produce plenty of health and environmental effects.
I don’t know if you have seen this, but there is a disturbing website on Wichita’s air pollution called toxicfactor.com
I advise you to check it out and find what your address shows. Mine was 43.7 times what the norm for the nation is!
JR02. You notice that they said it centers around McConnel, Boeing, and Cessna. Looks like they want to tear it down.
But they are taking steps to reduce the pollution. They got rid of the B-1’s, which were the big pollutors. And they are reducing their emissions through initatives.
It will be ok.
But they concentrate there study around Oaklawn and other poor neiborhoods and kids getting asthma. Probably because of indoor tobacco smoking around kids more than anything.
If you want McConnel to close, Boeing/Spirt to close and the west side Cessna complex to close. Go ahead and convience the City, County and the State that it’s needed.
Agree on the asthma Joe – I would add all sorts of indoor air pollutants to the list along with cigarette smoke. The County Health Department has looked at a lot of that over the years.
Ben! Is radon still a big threat for indoor pollution?
I’ve found a map of Kansas of the concentrate of Radon. Looks like we are still pretty high in this state.
http://www.epa.gov/radon/zonemap/kansas.htm
Thanks for the tip JR02 and welcome to the forum! Keep your J and your R together like that so folks don’t get us confused! Though so far I don’t disagree with you.
Interesting and disquieting map that.
It is a little hard to read with my browser, but yikes it looks like I live in a “sad face” area with an over 50 times pollution!
“But they concentrate there study around Oaklawn and other poor neiborhoods and kids getting asthma. Probably because of indoor tobacco smoking around kids more than anything.”
What a stereo-typical conservative thinking ass-hole!!
According to Joe, all kids in that neighborhood are exposed to second-hand smoke, because they are from poor families with parents that smoke.
I bet Joe thinks all african-american kids are in a gang. Or each mexican-looking person is an illegal.
Way to go Joe.
Radon IS a concern and should be tested for. It is actually quite easy to deal with. The Wichita/SC Health Department is a very good source of information. They were my reference above about other aspects of indoor air pollution.
By the way, other major asthma causes are insect debris and mold. An inspector I know has told some horror stories at prifessional meetings about his experiences – one big peeve he has is air fresheners. They do two bad things – mask the problem and add their own VOC pollution.
It ain’t all ‘industrial’ we have to deal with.
I’d say happy Equality Day today, but unfortunately, women’s rights are still very unbalanced. I have seen very little in any papers today marking this important day.
Since there is still no Equal Rights Amendment, anytime someone decides to revoke women’s rights, they can do so with relative ease.
There are many National Organization for Women chapters in Kansas, but with few active members who are doing the majority of the work. They are led by dedicated women who need many more spirited footsoldiers. Where have all the activists gone? Are they asleep? What will it take to finally get some people truly involved?
If you believe in reproductive freedom, equal rights for women, equal pay for equal work, gay/lesbian rights, racial equality and ending domestic abuse, please get involved and become a member today. We need all sorts of people who are willing to donate money, time, letter writers, and activists involved in an organization that is proactive in leading women on all sorts of issues.
Each and every one of you has a part to play in something so crucial as this. If there is not a chapter in your area, contact us and we will help you start one! College student? Start a campus action group and we can help you with that as well. Whatever you do ladies, don’t just ignore this. The balance of power is in your hands.
To see all the things we do for the women of Kansas..Please email mcphersonnow@ksnow.org, or visit our website at http://www.now.org/chapters/ks.html (Wichita has a rockin’ chapter)
Don’t forget to visit our booth at the Kansas State Fair!
moxxie_mama beat me to it, but I’ll add this much. We have to realize that we, as women, HAVE come a long way, even though we still have a long way yet to go.
Mary and I have posted a little about how times have changed since we were emerging from high school. I’m thankful for the strides we’ve made in the advancement of women in the workforce, for one. We want more!
Moxxie,
I think complacency has befallen women today, especially for those younger than a few of us on here. They’ve taken for granted the things we worked hard to achieve. It’s natural, but I agree that we need to light a fire under all women.
Talk about a P.R. coup! I just read that Bangladesh named a bridge after Hezbollah, we name streets and avenues after movie stars and airports after Presidents. They name bridges after terrorist groups, I guess they do not get out to the movies much.
“Chad ordered U.S. energy giant Chevron and Malaysia’s Petronas on Saturday to leave the country within 24 hours for failing to honor tax obligations, a move apparently aimed at increasing control over its oil output.”
Looks like we’ll have another target in “the war on terra”. How dare those heathens expect to control their own oil assetts!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/26/AR2006082600448.html
Thanks to Wichita EAGLE’s editorial staff member, Randy Scholfield, for writing the editorial, PARCHED, SAVE KANSAS’ MOST VITAL RESOURCE: WATER. The editorial is in today, Sunday’s Wichita EAGLE newspaper.
According to an almost invisible tagline following the article, Monday’s EAGLE will contain a followup editorial, “How can we ensure south-central Kansas’ water supply.”
In brief, Wichita draws its drinking water partially from Cheney Lake (north fork of the Ninnescah River), northwest of Wichita, and partially from the Equus beds aquifer south of Halstead, Kansas.
Today’s EAGLE editorial mentions the drawing down of the wide area Ogallala (underground) Aquifer located under western Kansas and some seven other states. But it doesn’t mention that the Ogallala Aquifer is indirectly or even directly the source of the water in both Cheney Lake and the Equus Beds. So the depletion of the Ogallala Aquifer could directly impact Wichita’s drinking water supply in the future.
I know the Wichita Water Department is proactively working on ways to guarantee Wichita’s water supply for the forseeable future.
So I’m looking forward to Randy Scholfield’s second installment of his water editorial in tomorrow, Monday’s EAGLE newspaper … in hopes that I can continue to drink eight glasses of cold Wichita drinking water each day!
Forget Iraq, screw illegal immigration, screw the Hezbollah Israel sorties… The homosexual anti-gay marriage amendment? Who gives a crap! I can’t believe that you all have forgotten what’s most important to the American people for securing the future of our children and for humankind in general! I’m sick and tired of you idiots arguing with each other about such frivolous things such as global warming… or something so preposterous and insignificant as debating the validity of intelligent design and evolution theory! In doing so, the powers that be have deluded you all from achieving what is fundamentally important to all human beings, something that is so relevant to us that it affects each and every one of us, something so grand that if we do not take immediate action will have ramifications on human civilization on the scale of biblical proportions!!! See how the media has duped you people all along! All this time you’ve been spoon fed news about crisis in the middle east, or religious fundamentalism in action in secular society or even something so trivial as government spying. All this time you have been kept in ignorance of the horrible truth. All of these things have been thrown at you so you may forget the ultimate reason for human kind’s existence. The powers that be are shameless, and they are evil incarnate! They are far more devious then any terrorist, far more power-hungry than any zionist, more blind and aloof than Bush. With these machinations, you have all been suckered into believing that all of these things take priority while you have all but forgotten… about the whales. What happened to the whales? We need to save the whales if human civilization is to be perpetuated! Who in their right minds would ever want to live in a world with no whales!? I bet you are all smacking your foreheads in utter shock and disbelief aren’t you? Yes, you have forgotten about our gentle giants. You have let current events take precedence over the holiest charge of human beings! That charge was to save the whales, bitch. Thank the great Whale that I have been sent to convey this most urgent message to you all! For nobody saves the whales… whose gonna save us?
Save The Whales BitchS.T.W.B.!!!
…For IF nobody saves the whales…whose gonna save us?
S.T.W.B!!!
Look at this! Look at all these stupid insignificant categories like:Terrorism, U.S. politics, presidential race, current affairs etc. Do we really need these insipid categories about time wasting topics? What the WE blog needs is a ‘Save The Whales’ category! Why is there no Save The Whales category? Are they racist or something!? So voice your concern to the WE editors so we can get a Whales thread! Tell them that America demands a Save The Whales category; and remember, if the whales were in our shoes, they’d do the same for us.
S.T.W.B!!!
Looks like Richard Armitage leaked Plame and not the White House.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14533384/site/newsweek/
If more people in the U.S. got the real story as presented in this video about Israel, they wouldn’t think Ed Friedman is such a fanatic. Watch it and tell me what is incorrect. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696
You wonder if Joe knows he’s playing fast and loose with the truth (lying), or whether he’s as dumb as he sounds–
“But officials at the White House also told reporters about Wilson’s wife in an effort to discredit Wilson for his public attacks on Bush’s handling of Iraq intelligence. Karl Rove confirmed to Novak that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA, and days later offered the same information to Time reporter Matt Cooper. The inquiry into the case led to the indictment of Cheney’s chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice. Armitage himself was aggressively investigated by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, but was never charged. Fitzgerald found no evidence that Armitage knew of Plame’s covert CIA status when he talked to Novak and Woodward.”
At Joe’s link . . .
We gave the Israelis enough money to build that “400 mile Wall” to protect them from payback for all the war-crimes they committed against the Palestinians.
400 miles of concrete would have fixed the levees in New Orleans. And if the Israelis got reasonable with the Palestinians, they wouldn’t need a “Wall.”
Peace is cheaper.
Will, I’ve spent times with cetacians. In their element. Gray whales, humpies, seis, bottlenose and spinner dolphins. It was awesome. Can’t explain it. Federal law prohibits boats from chasing whales. But how do you deal with a baby humpback that leaves his or her mother 100 yards away, and decides to spyhop you 5 feet away? Or a troupe of dolphins that decides to give you a Seaworld show, jumping and flipping 360’s , ten feet from your Zodiac, or a dolphin that decides to run with your Zodiac, and gives you a bellyflop splash that saturates everybody? Totally playful species. I’ve also bodysurfed with seals. Amazing experiences.
Steve
Where did you find that link?
On a yahoo board, thought it was very informative, and something you’d never see on the media. The internet may become the last refuge for truth.
Does anyone know where TrueBlue is? Or Galahad?
Steve
That link just verifies everything I’ve been saying, and I can’t thank you enough.
All should watch:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696
George W. Bush’s economy rewards fat cats and the people doing the work lose ground.
Why is this not a surprise?
Real Wages Fail to Match a Rise in Productivity
By STEVEN GREENHOUSE and DAVID LEONHARDTPublished: August 28, 2006
With the economy beginning to slow, the current expansion has a chance to become the first sustained period of economic growth since World War II that fails to offer a prolonged increase in real wages for most workers.
That situation is adding to fears among Republicans that the economy will hurt vulnerable incumbents in this year’s midterm elections even though overall growth has been healthy for much of the last five years.
The median hourly wage for American workers has declined 2 percent since 2003, after factoring in inflation. The drop has been especially notable, economists say, because productivity — the amount that an average worker produces in an hour and the basic wellspring of a nation’s living standards — has risen steadily over the same period.
As a result, wages and salaries now make up the lowest share of the nation’s gross domestic product since the government began recording the data in 1947, while corporate profits have climbed to their highest share since the 1960’s. UBS, the investment bank, recently described the current period as “the golden era of profitability.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/28/business/28wages.html?hp&ex=1156737600&en=e16f89a89d62998c&ei=5094&partner=homepage
And thank God those portfolio owners don’t have to pay serious taxes on their earnings.
BILLIONAIRES FOR BUSH!
My technology cripples me here Ed and steve. Too, some may not click the link.
A brief summary?
“US President George W Bush was informed 10 days after the September 11, 2001 attacks that US intelligence had no proof of links between Iraq and this act of terror, The National Journal reported today.”
“Citing government documents as well as past and present Bush administration officials, the magazine said the president was briefed on September 21, 2001 that evidence of cooperation between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist network was insufficient.”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/bush-knew-no-iraq-link-pre911-report/2005/11/23/1132703230171.html
George W. Bush
2002
“The regime has longstanding and continuing ties to terrorist groups, and there are Al Qaida terrorists inside Iraq.” – George W. Bush Delivers Weekly Radio Address, White House (9/28/2002) – BushOnIraq.com
“We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We’ve learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases.” – President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat; Remarks by the President on Iraq, White House (10/7/2002) – Whitehouse.gov
2003
“The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001 — and still goes on. That terrible morning, 19 evil men — the shock troops of a hateful ideology — gave America and the civilized world a glimpse of their ambitions. They imagined, in the words of one terrorist, that September the 11th would be the ‘beginning of the end of America.’ By seeking to turn our cities into killing fields, terrorists and their allies believed that they could destroy this nation’s resolve, and force our retreat from the world. They have failed.” – President Bush Announces Major Combat Operations in Iraq Have Ended, White House (5/1/2003) – BushOnIraq.com
2006
THE PRESIDENT: You know, I’ve heard this theory about everything was just fine until we arrived, and kind of “we’re going to stir up the hornet’s nest” theory. It just doesn’t hold water, as far as I’m concerned. The terrorists attacked us and killed 3,000 of our citizens before we started the freedom agenda in the Middle East.
Q What did Iraq have to do with that?
THE PRESIDENT: What did Iraq have to do with what?
Q The attack on the World Trade Center?
THE PRESIDENT: Nothing.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/08/20060821.html
This is why I hate Bush! Not because Im a democrat or an upset moderate. Its because he has lied to the American people in front of our face, and he seems to shrug his shoulders like nothing is wrong. I trusted this man shortly after 9/11 and leading up to the war. See it for what it is folks, a manipulated lie to put money in the hands of Haliburton, Carlyle, and the Oil companies.
Gary Calles
The war on terror is a scam.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696
I was joking about the whales thing btw, I know it wasn’t very good.