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- By Phillip Brownlee
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Good morning WICHITA!
Bawk, bawk, bawk–baaaawlk!!It’s Chickennnn Mannnnn!!
(cue: astonished onlookers, shouting excitedly)He’s everywhere!He’s everywhere!
Interesting Article from Pat Buchanan.. “Judgement Day — for the neocons”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51582
Even Rightie Buchanan is beginning to see through BushDaBum:
“The altarpiece of the Bush foreign policy is Iraq. American dead are at 2,600, the wounded at 18,000. Three hundred billion dollars has been plunged into the war. Yet Iraq is a bloodier, more dangerous place than it has been since the fall of Baghdad. One hundred are being killed every day, half of them in the capital. IED attacks on U.S. troops are at record levels – three and a half years after Baghdad fell.
The Bush democracy campaign brought stunning electoral gains for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon and Moqtada al-Sadr in Iraq. Our ally Hamid Kharzai is today little more than mayor of Kabul, as the Taliban roam the southeast and coalition casualties reach the highest levels since liberation five years ago.”
Today’s Bushism (Double header to get everyone thru the weekend):
“Jsut remember it’s the birds that’s supposed to suffer, not the hunter”Roswell, N.M, Jan, 22, 2004
Uh, MR. VP- Did you get this memo??
“One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above that which is expected”
Los Angeles, CA Sept. 27, 2000.
Spoken by the only man known to be able to divide by zero and understand the results!
Why do people attack the rainbow flag and they don’t attack the Confederate flag?
“I read somewhere the one of Macaca Allen’s quirks is that he has a Confederate Battle flag displayed in his home. If it is true, it is appalling behavior for a man that is a member of the United States Senate. Is his loyalty to the United States of America or to the Confederate States of America? What is his motive for displaying such an artifact?
Treason:
The crime of betraying one’s country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government – Oxford American Dictionary
The offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign’s family – Mirriam-Webster
Violation of allegiance toward one’s country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies – Dictionary.com
Did the Confederacy not attempt to overthrow the United States government in the southern states by waging war? Is it not fair to call anyone purposely displaying a emblem representing the Confederacy a sympathizer? Why else would they display it? It seems to me that this is particularly true of the people that refer to it as their “heritage”; what “heritage” are they honoring? Slavery? Hatred? War mongering?
Yes, his first amendment rights allow him express himself in any manner he sees fit, maybe this is a blessing to us as it is a direct indication of his true thoughts. If anyone wishes to display a Confederate flag that is their choice.
The way we react to it is ours.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364×1933892
For the record, when I go to a place of business, if I see the confederate flag on an employee’s car, I turn around and drive right out of there . . .
I do the same thing with jesus fishes.
I’ve been ripped off by so many who display that little sign that it has become second nature to me to AVOID those businesses.
let connie morris support them
CapnAmerica,
What part of soveriegn states and voluntary union do you morons not comprehend? The Confederates were and are right!
Viva La raza Blanco!!!
Quote of the Day:
Dr Albert Schweitzer, who spent most of his life in Africa, “uplifting” Negroes, receivedthe Nobel Prize for Peace in 1952. He held several doctorate degrees. Shortly before hisdeath, he said:
“I have given my life to alleviate the sufferings of Africa. There is something that allwhite men that have lived here must learn and know; that these individuals are asub-race; they have neither the intellectual, mental or emotional abilities to equate orshare in any of the functions of our civilization. I have given my life to try and bring themthe advantages which our civilization must offer, but I have become well aware that wemust retain this status; white, the superior, and they the inferior, for whenever a whiteman seeks to live among them as their equal, they will either destroy him or devour him,and they will destroy all his work; and so for any existing relationship or for any benefit tothis people let white men from anywhere in the world who would come to help Africaremember that you must continually retain the status; you the master, and they inferior,like children that you would help or teach. Never fraternize with them as equals, neveraccept them as your social equals; or they will devour you; they will destroy you.”Viva La Raza Blanco!!
And he was proven wrong. Update your info.
Open your freaking eyes, coconut!
Viva La Raza Blanco!!!
Ian, I support your right to leave the Union. Cubans back to Cuba!
KSFrmGrrl–You know, you’re right. I hired a plumber once who tried to charge me about three times what the job should cost. And this was a 2,000 dollar project. I finally talked him down to about twice as much as it should have cost.
He of course had the fish symbol prominently displayed on all his ads.
“When the missionaries came to Africa, we had the land and they had the Bible. They asked us to close our eyes to pray. When we opened our eyes, they had the land and we had the Bible.”
–Old African saying
Thank you Capn and Doug.Go back to Cuba brown boy.Viva La Raza Negro!
“Mr. Gandhi, now that you’re in London, what do you think of Western Civilization?”
“I think it would be a good idea.”
Ian,back to your tired old superior/inferior by virtue of skin color mantra I see. It’s so 1942.
KFG–RE: “I do the same thing with jesus fishes.”
Damm, I always thought those things were Yuppy Guppies!Earth Mother ,I feel so foolish; how could Ihave been so wrong??Sheeeesh!!!!
Capn, as always, under whatever nic, you’re as stupid as you are biggoted.
KFG…
Ichthys – “Jesus fish”…
LOLZ… I had no idea that my little Ichthys was protecting my vehicle from harm by the “unsaved masses”….
WOW.. you know, I thought it was a good reminder to drive kinder and not break traffic laws because the driver is supposed to “represent” Christ.. and believe me, in Wichita, I need all the help I can get….Unfortunately, as you and CapnA pointed out, too many times the person displaying the thing turns out to be a jerk or a thief! I just hope and pray that it’s never ME!!
I love my FSM fishy symbol….
Democratic Underground and TNR have great articles about Duke Cunningham, ex-fighter jock, ex-congressman, now a federal prisoner. His wife has told all to Kitty Kelly and, to quote DU, it isn’t a pretty story.
I’m sticking with this one for awhile, XXX, now that I figured out typekey.
I’m making it easier for you to aim. Hope you appreciate it.
“Bigoted?” Can you be bigoted against racists?
Okay, I’m bigoted them.
raptor…I was wondering when the Flying Spaghetti Monster would appear. You might be on the ground floor of a big business opportunity there!!
You seem like a basically decent guy, XXX.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one though.
Ford Sets Steep Cuts to Vehicle Production
By MICHELINE MAYNARDPublished: August 18, 2006DEARBORN, Mich., August 18 — The Ford Motor Company said today that it would cut vehicle production by 21 percent in the fourth quarter, its steepest cut in more than two decades.
In addition, Ford said it was abandoning its goal, reiterated as recently as April, of selling 900,000 pickup trucks a year in the United States. That could eventually mean an end to the reign of Ford’s F-series pickup truck as the best-selling vehicle in America, a market position it has held for nearly a quarter-century. The F-series pickup alone accounts for 30 percent of Ford’s annual sales.
The company said the production cuts were necessary because unexpectedly high gasoline prices this year were depressing sales of pickup trucks. Ford made the announcement in an e-mail message to employees from its chief executive, William Clay Ford Jr.
“We know this decision will have a dramatic impact on our employees, as well as our suppliers,” Mr. Ford wrote in the message. “This is, however, the right call for our customers, our dealers and our long-term future.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/18/business/18cnd-ford.html?hp&ex=1155960000&en=352a341d59d1d608&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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More good news from the Bush economy
BTW, how are those second quarter portfolio returns looking for you conservatives?
Let me summarize: they SUCK!
The Dow can’t climb above 11,000 which is about what it was when Bush took office in Jan 2001.
Time to get the inmates off the board at the asylum.
For years, when people wanted to show the downside risk of the stock market, they looked at Carter’s horrible four years.
Now they can look at Bush’s horrible eight years.
XXX, What you bitchen about?He told our resident racist where to go, good enough for me!!!!
Capn, please tell me about typekey.Ages ago I asked bloggers and the Eagle—-no response.
Email me if you prefer, thanks.
kansassam, you said the story would never make it to the mainstream media.From Fark.com:”Kansas teen records perfect scores on both SAT and ACT, then resumes lifetime of never scoring again.”
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-schou18aug18,0,3219677.story?coll=la-opinion-center
TEN YEARS AGO today, one of the most controversial news articles of the 1990s quietly appeared on the front page of the San Jose Mercury News. Titled “Dark Alliance,” the headline ran beneath the provocative image of a man smoking crack — superimposed on the official seal of the CIA.
The three-part series by reporter Gary Webb linked the CIA and Nicaragua’s Contras to the crack cocaine epidemic that ripped through South Los Angeles in the 1980s
Remember this? Who was the head of the CIA back then?
Capn: Bush has had only 6 years. If you are psychic, it appears that I should short the market. Any tips?
BTW, the Dow as I write is over 11,000. The past few years, have been really good, at least for me. Some indexes have done much better than the Dow as well. I wish it was better but this Middle East crap weighs on everything. The American economy is doing well.
OK, Tracy–
It took me a little trial and error to figure it out, but try this.
Under the “Post a comment” at the bottom of the page, there should be a link to “Sign In.” You have an opportunity to set up a typekey account there.
See if that works.
What is the advantage, what’s different after I set up an account?
Capn, when you base your opinion of people solely on their geographical location, that’s bigotry.
Okay, you’re right, Outlander.
The Dow is up to 11,300 something.
And that would be good, if it hadn’t gotten to about this level five or six times in the past and fallen back each time.
The all-time Dow high was in March 2000 (I think) 11750 or therabouts. In early May of 2006, the Dow was at 11650.
You can see what happened between May and August.
You can still do well in stocks if you pick the right ones, but the rising tide that floats all boats is not there like it was when Clinton was President.
XXX,
I don’t judge people by where they live. Martin Luther King was from the South. So was Medgar Evers and James Meredith.
I judge people on whether they say things like “the South will rise again” and fly the Rebel battle flag.
Anybody that tells Ian to go for a swim gets a tip o’ the hat from me.
A few corrections, the Dow hit it’s all time high in January of 00. Other indexes like the Nasdaq and the S & P 500 hit their highs in March 00.
The Dow is still down, 5 and 1/2 years out by about a percent. The Standard and Poor’s 500, considered a better overall measure, is down 17 percent.
People invest in stocks based on how they think things will go for business in the future.
You can see how people are betting on Bush’s economy.
Cap’n, to my understanding, X. lost a huge chunk of his relatives during that war, thus he’s a little sensitive about perceived disrespect for the anonymous soldiers of the losing side.
I am reminded that Mary Todd Lincoln had two half-brothers who fought for the Confederacy.
Unfortunately, many modern racists DO use the Stars-and-Bars in their own pinheaded way. That’s what we should all be focusing on. I don’t think there’s any disagreement there.
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Rage,I might add that we never gave the Southern Cross to the racists and skin-heads. They took it. People in the north can make whatever they want of our flag I suppose, but to those of us who claim Southern heritage, it will always be a proud symbol of a cause lost.
XXX – as a Georgian I will say AMEN to your comments.
I’m quite impressed with Bush’s performance in Iraq. The nation with some of the largest oil reserves in the world now has to resort to importing oil. Clearly Bush’s promise that Iraqi oil was going to pay for the invasion and neverending occupation fell through, as all his other promises have.
For all the supporters of the occupation what exactly would a victory in Iraq entail? Bush already declared victory once but that was over 1500 Americans deaths ago.
Since LRB wouldn’t respond to this earlier, I’m re-posting it.
This LRB person insists she’s a “progressive,” yet she argues that all of Islam supports the violent overthrow of the United States, that W’s policies protect us and that if we knew what was good for us, we’d all support W and the neo-con agenda and hate the NY Times.
Somehow, I don’t see that jibing with “Fighting Bob” La Follete Sr who opposed the US entry into WWI, who opposed arming merchant marine ships (for which he was called “a skunk who should be hanged” by Theo. Roosevelt), and for FREEDOM OF SPEECH. He also, according to Wikipedia, “campaigned for child labor laws, social security, women’s suffrage, and other progressive reforms. He opposed the prosecution of Eugene V. Debs and other opponents of the war and played a key role in initiating the investigation of the Teapot Dome Scandal during the Harding Administration.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette%2C_Sr.
Does any of that sound like anything LRB writes? She’s about as “progressive” as Joe Williams is “independent.” She can’t bring herself to criticise any Repukes and the only Dem she likes is Joe Loserman.
Farm Gal,”I don’t care if it rains or freezesLong as I’ve got my plastic JesusRiding on the dashboard of my car.Through my trial and tribulationsAnd my travels through the nationWith my plastic Jesus, I’ll go far!” -Phil Ochs-
heheh JED!!!!!
I also love “Drop kick me jesus through the goal posts of life”.
hee hee hee hee
WHEN WILL JESUS BRING THE PORK CHOPS?