Mayor, Council still can’t get along?

It’s hard to know where to start on the loopy “debate” at Tuesday’s Wichita City Council meeting, in which members introduced a (kind of petty) resolution to forbid city officials (read: Mayor Carlos Mayans) from from speaking on behalf of the council in calling for the return of WSU football, leading Mayans to invoke the troops’ sacrifice in Iraq in support of his freedom of speech.
Sigh. Didn’t we put this behind us?
The Council’s valid point is that Mayans shouldn’t act like he’s speaking for the entire Council or city when he launches one of his frequent left-field ideas.
But Council member Bill Martz confused the issue with the lame example that Mayans shouldn’t wear Wichita-logoed shirts when making such pronouncements.
At any rate, Tuesday’s session seemed to forecast more bad blood and pettiness at City Hall. As Sharon Feary noted, doesn’t the Council have more important business on its agenda?
Posted by Randy Scholfield

13 Comments

  1. Paul F. Rosell
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    As a practical matter, the Cuban Americans will decide this issue.Not saying we don’t all have a stake, but those who suffered most, or whose families suffered most, under the brutal rule of the Castros have the moral authority to tell us when it is OK to strike a deal with Cuba.

  2. J R
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    Uhhhhhh

    Paul?

    Did you post to the wrong thread? It CAN happen. I’ve done it.

    Paul?

    “Cuban Americans will deside this issue”?

    Do you mean WSU football? Logoed t-shirts?

    I’m gonna afford you that you posted the wrong thread. Though……I cannot imagine which thread it is you intended to post!

    I see no Cuba or Castro threads on this blog! Perhaps you are confused? deluded? stupid?

    DO explain Paul!

  3. J R
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    AWW my bad Paul.

    There is a new Cuban/Castro thread. You misposted. It happens.

  4. kelly
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 4:39 am | Permalink

    The key to the City Council vote is “speaking on behalf of the Council”. After 3 years of trying to work with a dysfuncional mayor, the City Council is fed up. As soon as the mayor and the public understand that he only has one vote, then perhaps it will become clear that his “mayor” status doesn’t give him any special power. He gets paid twice as much but that only means that he is twice as unaffordable.

  5. Tony
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    Kelly,

    Have you ever thought that the council is dysfunctional and corrupt? Oh, and the title of “Mayor” is special and does contain special powers… He IS the spokes man and leader of this city.

    Its his ideals we voted in to lead this council and city. The council is there to represent their districts. I think the majority of the council members have forgotten what that really means.

    Yes, I will admit that Carlos has said and done some somewhat irrational things but im not ready to throw im out of office… Especially when what kind of alternative do we have? Warren? He’ll use city money to build his new Newton theater.

    Hell, ill take Matt Goolsby (sp), the 20 something year old that ran in the primary.

  6. Joe Williams
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 8:32 am | Permalink

    City elections are in April next year. He’s up! If you guys don’t like him, vote him out.

    I’m sure there will be a slew of candidates.

  7. Tony
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    Anyone heard of anyone interested in that mayors job??

    Anyone besides the crazy guy that sits outside City Hall?(Anyone remember his name? Ben, i know you do…)

  8. Todd
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    “Its his ideals we voted in to lead this council and city. ”

    Speaking for myself (you really ought to try it), I did not vote for Mayans so that he could try to tell WSU how to run their athletic department and how to spend their money.

  9. Ben Huie
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    King david david

  10. Julie
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    Actually Ben it’s King David Davis. I saw the face but couldn’t come up with the name until you did.

  11. sotheysaid
    Posted August 3, 2006 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    The city council members need to grow up! Why are they wasting the taxpayer’s money on such childish resolutions? They took up a staffer’s time to draft it and now they took up city council time to talk about it.

    They are all such a joke. Carl Brewer how much did the resolution cost the taxpayers? Please let us know how much of our money you just wasted. Then I want to know what were the other members thinking when they went along with such a silly display. I do not agree with Fearey most of the time but I do have to say she was right on this one for a change.

    CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU SHOULD GROWUP OR GET OUT OF THE JOB!

  12. Jed
    Posted August 4, 2006 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

    Nothing new under the sun- many years ago, the city commission meetings were known as the Tuesday night fights.

  13. Ralph
    Posted August 6, 2006 at 9:56 am | Permalink

    The mayor is a figure-head position only. He does not have unilateral authority to speak on behalf of the council.

    From the city ordinance:

    (a) The mayor shall be the official head of the city on formal occasions and shall serve as the leader in the activities and duties of the city council. As the official head of the city, he shall not only lead but shall speak to the aims, policies and programs of the city, but his authority is restricted to that of a council member, except as hereinafter while serving as chairman of the council meetings. The mayor automatically becomes a member of the library board. The mayor shall have no administrative or executive duties but shall refer all such matters to the city manager. The mayor shall preside at all meetings of the city council, shall sign all resolutions, proclamations, minutes, ordinances, contracts, revenue bonds and other official instruments approved by the city council; provided that, such documents and instruments may be signed in the manner provided in Section 2.04.035. The mayor shall have no veto power. (Ord. No. 44-484 ยง 1)