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		<title>By: jfran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68274</link>
		<dc:creator>jfran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you cosmos, you were right, I was missing a few &quot;minor&quot; details.  I have a sneaky feeling that if this were a Democratic administration, and its VP was in a similar position as Cheney, what with all the stock options, and financial interests, the hell raised from the right would be deafening.....and rightly so.....so why no outrage from either side regarding Cheney?  But, the nitpicking of Lamont continues??

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you cosmos, you were right, I was missing a few &#8220;minor&#8221; details.  I have a sneaky feeling that if this were a Democratic administration, and its VP was in a similar position as Cheney, what with all the stock options, and financial interests, the hell raised from the right would be deafening&#8230;..and rightly so&#8230;..so why no outrage from either side regarding Cheney?  But, the nitpicking of Lamont continues??</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68273</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jfran... you might be missing a few tiny details?

Such as, Lamont did not have direct control of the Wal-Mart stock, and was not controlling the investment.

I&#039;m sure Paul F. Rosell will thoroughly explain the VP&#039;s earlier actions as Secretary of Defense -- plus being CEO, receiving deferred pay, and stock options.

Here&#039;s an appetizer -- Paul F. Rosell will provide the main course.&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jfran&#8230; you might be missing a few tiny details?</p>
<p>Such as, Lamont did not have direct control of the Wal-Mart stock, and was not controlling the investment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Paul F. Rosell will thoroughly explain the VP&#8217;s earlier actions as Secretary of Defense &#8212; plus being CEO, receiving deferred pay, and stock options.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an appetizer &#8212; Paul F. Rosell will provide the main course.<a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011.html" rel="nofollow">http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: k</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68272</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 03:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From your posts paul am I correct to assume you are an accountant or a financial advisor?  If so you are one of the worst there are.

&quot;Often, business owners who are slightly over $2,000,000 in net worth simply buy a life insurance policy to pay any estate taxes. We usually have to set up an insurance trust, since, otherwise, any insurance benefit would be added to the taxable estate.&quot;

If you advise people to take out insurance policies to help pay the estate tax when their total net worth is slightly over 2M then you should be fired for incompetence.  Because if you knew what the hell you were talking about you would know that they would only pay taxes on the amount over 2M.

But more than likely you are (once again) just full of shit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your posts paul am I correct to assume you are an accountant or a financial advisor?  If so you are one of the worst there are.</p>
<p>&#8220;Often, business owners who are slightly over $2,000,000 in net worth simply buy a life insurance policy to pay any estate taxes. We usually have to set up an insurance trust, since, otherwise, any insurance benefit would be added to the taxable estate.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you advise people to take out insurance policies to help pay the estate tax when their total net worth is slightly over 2M then you should be fired for incompetence.  Because if you knew what the hell you were talking about you would know that they would only pay taxes on the amount over 2M.</p>
<p>But more than likely you are (once again) just full of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: jfran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68271</link>
		<dc:creator>jfran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, let me try to understand this:

Lamont/WalMart stock = bad/hypocritical

Cheney/Hallibuton stock = good/no conflict of interest

Is that about the size of it?

Perhaps I&#039;m missing something?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, let me try to understand this:</p>
<p>Lamont/WalMart stock = bad/hypocritical</p>
<p>Cheney/Hallibuton stock = good/no conflict of interest</p>
<p>Is that about the size of it?</p>
<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68270</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cosmos - it is rather funny how Paul keeps bringing up &quot;cutting from 91%&quot; as being tha same as total elimination.  He seems to think nobody here has ever taken Econ.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cosmos &#8211; it is rather funny how Paul keeps bringing up &#8220;cutting from 91%&#8221; as being tha same as total elimination.  He seems to think nobody here has ever taken Econ.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68269</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - I don&#039;t use the phrase &quot;soak&quot; because I have no desire to soak.  That is simply your lies - all too typical of you.

I&#039;m sure Lamont will be thoroughly &quot;Swift-boated&quot; between now and election day.

I&#039;m glad you &quot;know&quot; everything about Lamont - just like you &quot;know&quot; that Saddam flew the planes; that he had a mammoth WMD program; that our troops would be welcomed with flowers; that Ahmed Chalabi would take over with ease; ...

I&#039;m sure Rush, O&#039;Reilly, Hannity, etc will tell you what to think tomorrow ...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; I don&#8217;t use the phrase &#8220;soak&#8221; because I have no desire to soak.  That is simply your lies &#8211; all too typical of you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Lamont will be thoroughly &#8220;Swift-boated&#8221; between now and election day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you &#8220;know&#8221; everything about Lamont &#8211; just like you &#8220;know&#8221; that Saddam flew the planes; that he had a mammoth WMD program; that our troops would be welcomed with flowers; that Ahmed Chalabi would take over with ease; &#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Rush, O&#8217;Reilly, Hannity, etc will tell you what to think tomorrow &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68268</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 02:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEH PAUL!

We already handed you your rear 2 weeks ago on points re John F. Kennedy (91% tax rate) -- and misinterpreting the Laffer curve.

Your repetition of bogus points that were destroyed earlier is tiresome.  Take notes if you lack a memory.

Again, you prove that today&#039;s Repugs needs misinformation, Rush, Coulter, Faux, etc., and a DYSFUNCTIONAL media to survive.

Paul, Kennedy lowered the marginal tax rate to 70%, but Clinton raised (sic) it to 39.6%?

Rush, Laffer, Hannity, and Kennedy.&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh010603.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh010603.shtml&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEH PAUL!</p>
<p>We already handed you your rear 2 weeks ago on points re John F. Kennedy (91% tax rate) &#8212; and misinterpreting the Laffer curve.</p>
<p>Your repetition of bogus points that were destroyed earlier is tiresome.  Take notes if you lack a memory.</p>
<p>Again, you prove that today&#8217;s Repugs needs misinformation, Rush, Coulter, Faux, etc., and a DYSFUNCTIONAL media to survive.</p>
<p>Paul, Kennedy lowered the marginal tax rate to 70%, but Clinton raised (sic) it to 39.6%?</p>
<p>Rush, Laffer, Hannity, and Kennedy.<a href="http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh010603.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh010603.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68267</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CapnWe dont like Lamont because we know he doesnt believe what he is saying.He understands that the Wealthy dont pay estate taxes. Lamont also understands that higher tax rates will hurt the poor by reducing growth and jobs.Again, Republicans would love it if everyone was rich, Democrats need poverty as a voting block.Republicans support policies that encourage people to be financially independent.Democrats fought the 401(K) and Democrats fought the HSA (health savings account.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CapnWe dont like Lamont because we know he doesnt believe what he is saying.He understands that the Wealthy dont pay estate taxes. Lamont also understands that higher tax rates will hurt the poor by reducing growth and jobs.Again, Republicans would love it if everyone was rich, Democrats need poverty as a voting block.Republicans support policies that encourage people to be financially independent.Democrats fought the 401(K) and Democrats fought the HSA (health savings account.)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68266</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BenRaising tax rates will not increase tax revenue and will do grave damage to the economy.Raising tax rates will only change behavior, in a negative way.Of course you dont use the phrase &quot;soak the rich&quot; anymore, to be so open with Democrat class-envy politics is not helpful to you politically.There is a large portion of the Dem base that is very envy driven and wants to take out revenge on the perceived foes of the &quot;working man&quot; by using punitive tax rates.You keep the angry rable happy by speaking in broad generalities.You would do the country more benefit if you and the rest of the liberals would explain to your base that higher tax rates, at some point, cause more pain to the working man than they can ever solve.JFK and Lloyd Bentsen understood the destructive nature of high tax rates.I am eager to hear another Democrat that understands this issue.Quit pandering to your base if you are NOT a &quot;soak the rich&quot; radical.What level of taxation do YOU think is most effecient, producing the highest revenue with the least amount of economic pain?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BenRaising tax rates will not increase tax revenue and will do grave damage to the economy.Raising tax rates will only change behavior, in a negative way.Of course you dont use the phrase &#8220;soak the rich&#8221; anymore, to be so open with Democrat class-envy politics is not helpful to you politically.There is a large portion of the Dem base that is very envy driven and wants to take out revenge on the perceived foes of the &#8220;working man&#8221; by using punitive tax rates.You keep the angry rable happy by speaking in broad generalities.You would do the country more benefit if you and the rest of the liberals would explain to your base that higher tax rates, at some point, cause more pain to the working man than they can ever solve.JFK and Lloyd Bentsen understood the destructive nature of high tax rates.I am eager to hear another Democrat that understands this issue.Quit pandering to your base if you are NOT a &#8220;soak the rich&#8221; radical.What level of taxation do YOU think is most effecient, producing the highest revenue with the least amount of economic pain?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68265</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - it is YOU who is making all sorts of accusations.  Therefore it is YOUR burden of proof.  I have never heard Lamont say &quot;soak&quot; the rich - neither do I.  Nor do Warren Buffet or Bill Gates.  However, they do seem to advocate fair inheritance taxes.  It is YOU who uses the term &quot;soak the rich&quot; just as you have misused the Laffer Curve in the past.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; it is YOU who is making all sorts of accusations.  Therefore it is YOUR burden of proof.  I have never heard Lamont say &#8220;soak&#8221; the rich &#8211; neither do I.  Nor do Warren Buffet or Bill Gates.  However, they do seem to advocate fair inheritance taxes.  It is YOU who uses the term &#8220;soak the rich&#8221; just as you have misused the Laffer Curve in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68264</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 01:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BenDo you know for sure that Lamont does not use estate planning tools for his heirs and has never used income tax shelters?That Lamont can parrot &quot;soak the rich&quot; bologna does not mean that he practices what he preaches!Increasing tax rates will REDUCE the percentage of taxes paid by the rich, because they will quit investing in productive activity.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BenDo you know for sure that Lamont does not use estate planning tools for his heirs and has never used income tax shelters?That Lamont can parrot &#8220;soak the rich&#8221; bologna does not mean that he practices what he preaches!Increasing tax rates will REDUCE the percentage of taxes paid by the rich, because they will quit investing in productive activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68263</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They particularly hate people like Lamont because they consider him to be a traitor to the wealthy.  He thinks they should pay their taxes and not get additional breaks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They particularly hate people like Lamont because they consider him to be a traitor to the wealthy.  He thinks they should pay their taxes and not get additional breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: CapnAmerica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68262</link>
		<dc:creator>CapnAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First they ridicule Dems for &quot;class warfare against the rich;&quot; then they attack Lamont for being rich.

I wonder if they develop a tolerance for hypocrisy the way a drunk develops tolerance for alcohol?

They build up to it over time until they can stand massive amounts without their heads exploding.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First they ridicule Dems for &#8220;class warfare against the rich;&#8221; then they attack Lamont for being rich.</p>
<p>I wonder if they develop a tolerance for hypocrisy the way a drunk develops tolerance for alcohol?</p>
<p>They build up to it over time until they can stand massive amounts without their heads exploding.</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68261</link>
		<dc:creator>cosmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Thank&#039;s for proving how Repugs spread false info -- your link, the bogus &#039;Pink Diaper Baby&#039;, is spreading across the &quot;red state&quot; blogs.

R&#039;s can&#039;t win on the issues, so they resort to falsely smearing the candidates.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://nedlamont.com/news/670/lieberman-rival-hopes-to-find-support-in-issues-beyond-iraq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://nedlamont.com/news/670/lieberman-rival-hopes-to-find-support-in-issues-beyond-iraq&lt;/a&gt;&quot;A scion of bankers at J. P. Morgan &amp; Co., Mr. Lamont said that he grew up with a trust fund -- he would not disclose its size -- but that his inheritance accounted for less than 10 percent of his current wealth.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Thank&#8217;s for proving how Repugs spread false info &#8212; your link, the bogus &#8216;Pink Diaper Baby&#8217;, is spreading across the &#8220;red state&#8221; blogs.</p>
<p>R&#8217;s can&#8217;t win on the issues, so they resort to falsely smearing the candidates.</p>
<p><a href="http://nedlamont.com/news/670/lieberman-rival-hopes-to-find-support-in-issues-beyond-iraq" rel="nofollow">http://nedlamont.com/news/670/lieberman-rival-hopes-to-find-support-in-issues-beyond-iraq</a>&#8220;A scion of bankers at J. P. Morgan &amp; Co., Mr. Lamont said that he grew up with a trust fund &#8212; he would not disclose its size &#8212; but that his inheritance accounted for less than 10 percent of his current wealth.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68260</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - I have not found probate records on any Republicans.  Therefore, Republicans never pay estate tax.  According to your logic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; I have not found probate records on any Republicans.  Therefore, Republicans never pay estate tax.  According to your logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that you have not found them does not prove that they don&#039;t exist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that you have not found them does not prove that they don&#8217;t exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68258</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, we began this exercise when you claimed that Lamont was somehow self made.I posted previously that Lamont was a JP Morgan heir, I made that point last week I believe, on a different thread.Lamont has wealthy roots.That was my point all along.I am not an expert on the Lamont family tree and I have not tried to present myself that way here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, we began this exercise when you claimed that Lamont was somehow self made.I posted previously that Lamont was a JP Morgan heir, I made that point last week I believe, on a different thread.Lamont has wealthy roots.That was my point all along.I am not an expert on the Lamont family tree and I have not tried to present myself that way here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68257</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have, however, verified that he has inherited wealth:

His father, Ted (Edward M. Sr.), was an economist who worked with the Marshall Plan which helped reconstruct Europe after World War II.[11] He later served in the Nixon administration in Housing and Urban Development. Ted Lamont is now an unaffiliated voter, having last voted for a Republican in 1988. Since then he has voted Democratic. He told The Hartford Courant that &quot;Eastern Moderates no longer have a place in the GOP.&quot;[12]

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Lamont&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Lamont&lt;/a&gt;

He is NOT the grandson of Corless Lamont as claimed by your Lamoont-hater.  He is grandnephew to him.  He actually descends from the JP Morgan business.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have, however, verified that he has inherited wealth:</p>
<p>His father, Ted (Edward M. Sr.), was an economist who worked with the Marshall Plan which helped reconstruct Europe after World War II.[11] He later served in the Nixon administration in Housing and Urban Development. Ted Lamont is now an unaffiliated voter, having last voted for a Republican in 1988. Since then he has voted Democratic. He told The Hartford Courant that &#8220;Eastern Moderates no longer have a place in the GOP.&#8221;[12]</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Lamont" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Lamont</a></p>
<p>He is NOT the grandson of Corless Lamont as claimed by your Lamoont-hater.  He is grandnephew to him.  He actually descends from the JP Morgan business.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68256</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing in your link indicating that he actually inherited anything from his grandfather (or great uncle, which is it?).  Your Lamont-hating &#039;expert&#039; (sic) doesn&#039;t even seem to know the lineage with any certainty.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing in your link indicating that he actually inherited anything from his grandfather (or great uncle, which is it?).  Your Lamont-hating &#8216;expert&#8217; (sic) doesn&#8217;t even seem to know the lineage with any certainty.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68255</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>touche BenSo I looked, cant find ANY probate records for the wealthy Kerry, Kennedy or Lamont families.This would indicate legal steps were taken to avoid probate court.This would indicate the use of trusts and estate planning.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>touche BenSo I looked, cant find ANY probate records for the wealthy Kerry, Kennedy or Lamont families.This would indicate legal steps were taken to avoid probate court.This would indicate the use of trusts and estate planning.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Huie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68254</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Huie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul - it is YOUR claim - the burden of proof is upon you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; it is YOUR claim &#8211; the burden of proof is upon you.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BenProbate Court records are public.The &quot;probate estate&quot; and the &quot;taxable estate&quot; are two different things, of course, but filings in probate court can clearly be evidence of what might have happened in IRS filings.The Wealthy almost NEVER have much of anything filed in probate court.Again, show me something in probate court with a truly wealthy individuals name as the decedant. If you find such a person, I will then show you a personal attorney of that family who is guilty of gross incompetence!Probate records are public Ben.Have at it!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BenProbate Court records are public.The &#8220;probate estate&#8221; and the &#8220;taxable estate&#8221; are two different things, of course, but filings in probate court can clearly be evidence of what might have happened in IRS filings.The Wealthy almost NEVER have much of anything filed in probate court.Again, show me something in probate court with a truly wealthy individuals name as the decedant. If you find such a person, I will then show you a personal attorney of that family who is guilty of gross incompetence!Probate records are public Ben.Have at it!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/08/lieberman_acted/#comment-68252</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BenLamont is NOT a self made millionaire:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracy-project.com/archives/002716.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.democracy-project.com/archives/002716.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BenIf you place a business in a trust, you must give up &quot;indices of ownership&quot; meaning you will give up important control of that business.If you place financial assets in a revocable trust, and name members of your family as &quot;beneficiaries&quot; of that trust, you really dont care about avoiding &quot;indicies of ownership.&quot; You are then dealing with small, minority interests in mutual funds and the like, and &quot;control&quot; doesnt matter.True, you can put a business into a REVOCABLE trust, but revocable trusts do NOTHING to avoid death taxes, revocable trusts only avoid probate, an entirely different matter.Only an irrevocable trust, which requires the relinquishment of CONTROL, will move a small business out of an estate.(If you can still hire, fire, expand or change employee benefits, the IRS will say:&quot;IT IS STILL YOURS, AND STILL TAXABLE TO YOUR ESTATE&quot;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BenIf you place a business in a trust, you must give up &#8220;indices of ownership&#8221; meaning you will give up important control of that business.If you place financial assets in a revocable trust, and name members of your family as &#8220;beneficiaries&#8221; of that trust, you really dont care about avoiding &#8220;indicies of ownership.&#8221; You are then dealing with small, minority interests in mutual funds and the like, and &#8220;control&#8221; doesnt matter.True, you can put a business into a REVOCABLE trust, but revocable trusts do NOTHING to avoid death taxes, revocable trusts only avoid probate, an entirely different matter.Only an irrevocable trust, which requires the relinquishment of CONTROL, will move a small business out of an estate.(If you can still hire, fire, expand or change employee benefits, the IRS will say:&#8221;IT IS STILL YOURS, AND STILL TAXABLE TO YOUR ESTATE&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul F. Rosell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul F. Rosell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 22:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BenIf you place a business in a trust, you must give up &quot;indices of ownership&quot; meaning you will give up important control of that business.If you place financial assets in a revocable trust, and name members of your family as &quot;beneficiaries&quot; of that trust, you really dont care about avoiding &quot;indicies of ownership.&quot; You are then dealing with small, minority interests in mutual funds and the like, and &quot;control&quot; doesnt matter.True, you can put a business into a REVOCABLE trust, but revocable trusts do NOTHING to avoid death taxes, revocable trusts only avoid probate, an entirely different matter.Only an irrevocable trust, which requires the relinquishment of CONTROL, will move a small business out of an estate.(If you can still hire, fire, expand or change employee benefits, the IRS will say:&quot;IT IS STILL YOURS, AND STILL TAXABLE TO YOUR ESTATE&quot;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BenIf you place a business in a trust, you must give up &#8220;indices of ownership&#8221; meaning you will give up important control of that business.If you place financial assets in a revocable trust, and name members of your family as &#8220;beneficiaries&#8221; of that trust, you really dont care about avoiding &#8220;indicies of ownership.&#8221; You are then dealing with small, minority interests in mutual funds and the like, and &#8220;control&#8221; doesnt matter.True, you can put a business into a REVOCABLE trust, but revocable trusts do NOTHING to avoid death taxes, revocable trusts only avoid probate, an entirely different matter.Only an irrevocable trust, which requires the relinquishment of CONTROL, will move a small business out of an estate.(If you can still hire, fire, expand or change employee benefits, the IRS will say:&#8221;IT IS STILL YOURS, AND STILL TAXABLE TO YOUR ESTATE&#8221;)</p>
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