Yes, the headline on this blog item is provocative. But it wasn’t one of President Bush’s liberal critics who asked the question; it was former GOP congressman and conservative cable TV talk-show host Joe Scarborough, who devoted a segment on his “Scarborough County” program on MSNBC last week to a discussion of whether Bush is playing dumb or just plain dumb. Scarborough told the Washington Post that he felt compelled to discuss the subject because he kept hearing fellow Republicans questioning Bush’s capacity and leadership, particularly in Iraq.
John Fund, a conservative commentator who was a guest panelist for the Scarborough discussion, has a column in today’s Wall Street Journal exploring the issue. He points out that much of the public perception about Bush not being smart comes from Bush’s public speaking mishaps. But he argues that the fundamental issue driving the current debate over Bush’s brain is Iraq. “When the going is tough, a president needs to be able to make a clear, vigorous defense of his policies,” Fund wrote. “That clearly isn’t happening right now, and the doubts about the president are starting to grow and threaten to further limit his effectiveness.” Even among the conservative faithful.
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Scarborough is just now figuring this out?! Aftereffects of prolonged use of “nose candy”
I think George the Worst’s use of the English language to be instructionmental and contersely sucsinkable!
From: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003020104 -
Asked by a reporter what Iraq had to do with 9/11, Bush replied, “Nothing, except for it’s part of — and nobody’s ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a — Iraq — the lesson of September the 11th is take threats before they fully materialize, Ken.”
I was going to ask what was gster saying, but instead I think I will ask, what was Bush saying?
Yes.
The shortest topic in the world.
Steven-If you want to scare the hell out of yourself,ask what was he thinking while making that statement.
OK, lets assume poor ol’ George is an idiot.
Kind of sad to think that the republicans can run an idion twice and beat the best the Dems can come up with for a candidate!
Furthermore, if they keep running against GW it will be 20 years before they ever win the White House again.
Hank
No matter how idiotic GW is proven to be, there will always be bigger idiots who will support him.
See exhibit A above.
Makes me wonder about the people that voted for him. It must not be very much fun to watch the melt-down!
Support for GW and the neo-cons are “in their death throes, if you will.”
Thanks for the wording, Dick Cheney.
Not sad Hank, exceedingly worrisome and dangerous.But I and many others knew what bush would be before he ever stole into office.
Heard bush this morning. He STEADFASTLY INSISTS on using the word “nucular” when he means nuclear. This speaks of a man seemingly proud to be perceived as stupid. Not a good image for the US to project.
The fact that a guy like W can win the White House twice says more about the stupidity of the democrats than it does about Bush.
A little advice to the democrats: Dump Dean as fast as possible. Go out onto the street and pick anyone at random to replace him. You couldn’t do worse.
Bush proves PT Barnum was correct!
LRB:Your first paragraph is accurate.The second? We’ll see the beginning in November.What Dean is doing under the radar and behind the scenes is beginning to look like it might just come up and bite the Repugs in the butt!
LRB–
Spoken by an avowed Democrat hater, we’ll take that under advisement.
Abandoning Howard Dean is what gave us John Kerry, you twit.
Is he an idiot or is he just a spoiled rich frat boy who can’t handle the job his last name helped him get?
I think Bush should be given credit for being more than one idiot. Current measurements put him 2.2 – 2.3; in fact, there’s talk of coining a newer, more precise term “idjit” to relect this unusual capability. Good work is it’s own reward!
“Is our president an idiot?’
yep
[Abandoning Howard Dean is what gave us John Kerry, you twit.]
Dean would have been chopped into bite-sized pieces.
“In 1971, Dean, who had been a wrestling team captain in high school, received a draft deferment for an unfused vertebra in his back. In the Aug. 15, 2002, Aspen Times, Dean said he “skied 80 days” in Aspen during the winter of 1971-72. The Times reported that Dean “loved skiing bumps,” otherwise known as moguls. (Some health publications note that moguls can put particular stress on the spine.)”
Ouch. He wouldn’t have made it through the whole campaign. The Jackals in the press would be fighting over his entrails.
DOUG—BOTH!!
This one is just too easy. . .
Last I heard, the sun sets in the west.
IS OUR CHILDREN LEARNING?
“Dean would have been chopped into bite-sized pieces.”
LRB must be unaware of the history of the last two 2-term presidents. . .
And, ignoring Ohio, a guy who didn’t bother to show up for a year of Guard service beat a Viet vet with 3 purple hearts.
The Dumbest Things President Bush Said in 2005
10) “It’s totally wiped out. … It’s devastating, it’s got to be doubly devastating on the ground.”–turning to his aides while surveying Hurricane Katrina flood damage from Air Force One, Aug. 31, 2005
9) “I’m occasionally reading, I want you to know, in the second term.”–Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
8) “This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table.”–Brussels, Belgium, Feb. 22, 2005
7) “I’m going to spend a lot of time on Social Security. I enjoy it. I enjoy taking on the issue. I guess, it’s the mother in me.”–Washington D.C., April 14, 2005
6) “Because the — all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers.For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There’s a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those — changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be — or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It’s kind of muddled.”–explaining his plan to save Social Security, Tampa, Fla., Feb. 4, 2005
5) “I think I may need a bathroom break. Is this possible?”–in a note to to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during a U.N. Security Council meeting, September 14, 2005
4) “We’ve got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we’re going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we’re going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is — and it’s hard for some to see it now — that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott’s house — he’s lost his entire house — there’s going to be a fantastic house. And I’m looking forward to sitting on the porch.” (Laughter)–touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005
3) “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”–Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
2) “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” –to FEMA director Michael Brown, who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his handling of the Hurricane Katrina debacle, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005
1) “You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn’t it? I mean, that is fantastic that you’re doing that.”–to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
BTW, LRB, any source on that?
[BTW, LRB, any source on that?]
http://www.slate.com/id/2087543/
Enjoy.
Tracy – you forgot “I’ve advised Olmert to exercise restraint and not do anything that would undermine the lebanese government.”
LRB is going after Dean with something over 30 years ago? If you have to go back that far it’s like saying Dean hasn’t done anything you can complain about in over 30 years. That makes the medical doctor and former governor look pretty good. He didn’t get though college based upon his last name, nor did he get his public office that way.
I wonder why the Repugs have been so scared of Howard Dean the moment he ran for President? I guess they just don’t like educated men and feel more comfortable around knuckle draggers like the failed businessman named Dumbya. Are they jealous because Dean’s anti-war position is now favored by the majority?
ROLF! A source from LRB?
Don’t you know, she is the ultimate source about everything?
Just ask her the name of Japan in Japanese for instance. It IS NOT “Nippon!” Ignore what the postage stamps say!
She got that information from “The Worst of Howard DeanA troubling tale from his past. Is it true?”By William Saletan and Ben JacobsPosted Thursday, Aug. 28, 2003, at 11:15 AM EThttp://www.slate.com/id/2087543/
What she “forgot” to post was this–
Dean told Russert, “I was given an examination. I had a previous back problem, which is evidently congenital, which prevented me from doing any sustained running, a problem that I’ve had since then, since that time, which requires that when I get out of the car I often have some pains up and down my leg and back and so forth. But I have been able to exercise [and have] a vigorous athletic life except for some things. One of those is long-distance running, which is how the problem came to my attention in the first place. I noticed the pain when I was in high school running track. … After the physical, I received a 1-Y deferment, [which] means you can only be called in times of national emergency. I didn’t have anything to do with choosing any draft deferment. … The United States government said this is your classification. I’m not responsible for that.”
Check out this photo of a Japanese stamp.
Note what it says under “40″.
http://cgi.ebay.com/JAPAN-1982-SC-1515-S-S-MNH-CV-1-50-VF-CONDITION_W0QQitemZ330020607220QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3492QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
/// A Picture of John Belushi from the Blues Brothers ///
I was given an examination. I had a previous back problem, which is evidently congenital, which prevented me from doing any sustained running, a problem that I’ve had since then, since that time, which requires that when I get out of the car I often have some pains up and down my leg and back and so forth. I ran out of gas. I had a flat tire. I didn’t have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn’t come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! It wasn’t my fault, I swear to god!”
So…
Are there any actual examples of how Bush is an idiot or is everyone just doing their usual name calling?
Phillip,
You disappoint me. If you are going to have a topic about Bush being an idiot, perhaps you could bring some examples or proof next time.
As usual, the WE editors do little more than to provide the typical Bush haters here yet another venue to hate Bush in.
Not being a very good public speaker doesn’t make someone an idiot.
To even suggest this is a topic of dicussion or should be without even bringing an intelligent thought of your own to guide it shows me yet again the WE editor bias here.
Ask yourself Phillip:
What is the ratio of good threads vs. critical ones of the president?
Or, could you not be so obvious in the future as with the title of this one?
Whatever journalistic integrity you have is being flushed down the toilet once again.
[Note what it says under "40".]
One more time, It’s Nihon.
So lets sum it up…
Bush beat (or stole for you kukoo lefties) the election 2 times against the best the democrats had to offer…
And you are going to call him an idiot?
Yes, Bush is an Idiot, but it took Karl Rove to sell that idoit which you bought…..That says something about you?
Bush also thinks the Earth is 10,000 years old and calls himself a creationist. No wonder the guy couldn’t find any oil, he had no idea where it came from.
Yes, Nathan, he’s an idiot. In fact, he is a professional at it. What do you expect from a guy that bases his foreign policy on what me reads in “My Weekly Reader”?
All other examples that will be posted aside Nathan I give you one very simple one.
Nucular.
Please defend bush’s dogged use of that word.
It is not because he is a poor speaker that he does that. Presumably he knows better.
Your take Nathan?
Oh and I’m sure we would get a thread as to the good bush is doing……just as soon as he does some. I know he got your rather wealthy family a tax cut. Beyond that I don’t know of any good he has done.
Bush is a figurehead. Cheney is really the one in charge.
Let this be all the evidence anyone needs about LRB.
She won’t admit she’s wrong even when it’s written on a postage stamp in Romaji.
Check these yen bills: http://www.mykp.co.uk/?id=9
“Nippon Ginko” means “Japan Bank.”
An ability to deny reality that runs this deep borders on mental illness.
Sad, isn’t it?
Rage
You’ve got that straight.
Wasn’t LRB the one who claimed that there have never been killings in the name of christianity?And when we started the long list,CHANGED THE SUBJECT.You know, LRB, that crow tastes a lot better with a little humble pie.I know, I’ve eaten my share!
LRB,See CapnAmerica’s post above, re your “source”.
The military classified Howard Dean 1Y because he had a back condition called spondylolisthesis.
Military training requires running/walking for long hours, carrying a heavy backpack (50 or 80 lbs?), while wearing boots. That puts HUGE stress on the vertebra — unlike skiing, where bent knees can absorb the bumps.
The military does NOT want people who probably wont make it thru training. But spondylolisthesis does not prevent activities such as skiing.
LRB: “The fact that a guy like W can win the White House twice says more about the stupidity of the democrats than it does about Bush.”
No, it says more about our dysfunctional media, the tactics used by the RNC, and the gullible, misinformed, ignorant citizens that voted for Bush. See spondylolisthesis, above.
Yes Nathan he IS an idiot.What does that say about your still supporting him?Does it say that you’re especially good at spotting people with a high IQ?NO.
LRB, you do have a good sense of humor,now if we can just work on that “logic thingy”.HA.
JR,
One word doesn’t prove anything about a mans intelligence.
What is your newfound obsession with bringing up my families wealth. This is at least the second time I have seen that from you now.
Don’t hate my mom because she studied her butt off in highschool, went to college and obtained 6 degrees, obtained her doctorate while working jobs as a waitress, started her own business and built it up.
Sorry that I believe that people who worked hard for their money and earned it shouldn’t have it taken away to support lazy bums or some idealized world envisioned by socialists with no idea on how things work.
[postage stamp in Romaji.]
The Japanese people call their homeland Nihon.
Tracy,
No he is not an idiot. I see you don’t have much more than name calling to offer either.
See this Phillip? What a great thread you have here.
Just tossing a bone to the Bush haters I see…
Shrub actually has a significantly higher IQ than kerry, so he ain’t “stupid”. However, he is evil as hell and a filthy traitor!
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Note how Nathan calls for a thread on the good bush has done is not followed with any examples.
Nathan bush’s use of the word nucular is VERY illustrative my take. He KNOWS it is WRONG. He KNOWS people do not like it. Yet he INSISTS on continuing to do it. This is telling of him in almost every way.
JR,
If your hung up over a word someone says, it tells me more about you than them.
I’ll stick with Dean, you stick with Bush…we’ll see who has more sense.
You just don’t want to address my example Nathan. I don’t blame you. There is no reasonable defense.
LRB–
Yes, the Japanese of course DO call their country “Nihon.”
The issue is do they also use the pronunciation of the same characters, “Nippon?”
What does “Nippon” stand for on the bills and postage stamps if not “Japan?”
Give it up. You are wrong.
Simply repeating the same wrong position over and over just makes you look the way you are . . . kinda dense, if not wack-o.
Hi mom!!Good to see you back.At least you didn’t come in griping about the ‘lack of civility’ here.Newbies must understand that we’ve been uncivilized to each other here for a couple of years now.All part of the fun and games.
‘Is our president an idiot?’
YES HE ARE.
Don’t be disrespectabation about that; he went to school and got a sheep-dip, and hung it on the wall!
[Yes, the Japanese of course DO call their country "Nihon." ]
Good. You get it.
They don’t call it Nippon except in formal settings. Japanes have many formal language nuances which aren’t used very much at all.
Vocabulary challenged, yeah. But you don’t become president twice without being smart and having some political wiles. Besides isn’t it consensus here atWE leftyblog that Dick Cheney or Carl Rove is really president?
Phillip; moronic, unnecessary and inflammatory thread. But if you are going to continue in that vein, how about these topics:
Is Dick Cheney really Satan?Is Ted Kennedy a drunkard?Is AlGore a real person?
[Is Ted Kennedy a murderous drunkard?]
fixed.
The answer is YES. Wish I could use a larger font.
LRB,/// A Picture of John Belushi from the Blues Brothers ///
Actually, according to YOUR link, and the facts, it’s a picture of an athlete.http://www.slate.com/id/2087543/“But I have been able to exercise [and have] a vigorous athletic life except for some things. One of those is long-distance running, which is how the problem came to my attention in the first place. I noticed the pain when I was in high school running track.”
Hey, fellow bloggers, you can badmouth Bushy-Tail and his tail waggers all you want and may even sway the majority of the voters but until the Diebold fiasco is cleared up, his and their clones will be setting on the throne for many years to come.
[Yes, the Japanese of course DO call their country "Nihon."
Good. You get it.]
I never said they didn’t call it Nihon. You were the one who said they never use Nippon. When I said they could use either one, you said I was “backpedeling.”
[They don't call it Nippon except in formal settings. Japanes have many formal language nuances which aren't used very much at all.]
Ah so desuka, Sensei, please tell me more.
What “formal settings?” Like the formal setting of a postage stamp, the giant steel company, or the national sports clubs?
If this is true, it should be easy to provide links to back up what you say.
Here’s what I found–
From a Japanese forum–
“The people of Japan actually have two names for their land. They call it either Nihon or Nippon. . . .Both forms are still used. . . . But the word they actually use among themselves is either Nippon or Nihon.
http://www.qi.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=3890&start=0&sid=85f6b605ac231ce05d59f0acbfc26551
“Nippon” or “Nihon”?
These two words meaning “Japan” have both been in use for at least five hundred years. The use of “Nippon” has generally been more common . . .
http://d-training.aots.or.jp/GTJ/html/n.html
The Japanese name Nippon is used for most official purposes, including , postage stamps, and international sporting events. Nihon is a more casual term and the most frequently used in contemporary speech.
http://experts.about.com/e/n/na/Names_of_Japan.htm
It’s like whether we would call ourselves from America or the United States.
It’s the same damn thing.
But I’m waiting with baited breath for your explication of this linguistical puzzle.
Draw on your long study of Japanese and your intimate knowledge of “ba: nippon no uchi.” Hold forth for us who long for the shadows of our ignorance to shrink back from the brilliance of your analysis!
(This should be good. Pass the popcorn.)
outlander,”Phillip; moronic, unnecessary and inflammatory thread. But if you are going to continue in that vein, how about these topics:”
Have pundits who supported Cheney switched, and asked: “Is Dick Cheney really Satan?”?If so, let’s have a thread on it!!
Why do you object to Phillip’s thread on Scarborough’s program? See WaPo link at top,[For 10 minutes, the caption across the bottom of the television screen read, "IS BUSH AN 'IDIOT'?"]
The switch of Scarborough (and other conservative pundits) support *IS* news, and worth discussing — especially considering how they previously spun and lied to support Bush.
Many examples at,http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/joescarborough
[I never said they didn't call it Nihon. You were the one ...]
Let it go.
[Hey, fellow bloggers, you can badmouth Bushy-Tail and his tail waggers all you want and may even sway the majority of the voters but until the Diebold fiasco is cleared up, his and their clones will be setting on the throne for many years to come.]
I heard that Dick Cheney personally pounded-out the programming for the Diebold machines.
“I think George the Worst’s use of the English language to be instructionmental and contersely sucsinkable!”
I secontate the notionary that this presidentionalarium is mosteverly stupundious. Also his language is bad.
This poem is composed entirely of actual quotes from George W. Bush. Thequotes have been arranged into verse by Washington Post writer RichardThompson.**************************************************MAKE THE PIE HIGHERby George W. BushI think we all agree, the past is over.This is still a dangerous world.It’s a world of madmen and uncertaintyand potential mental losses.Rarely is the question askedIs our children learning?Will the highways of the Internet become more few?How many hands have I shaked?They misunderestimate me.I am a pit bull on the pant leg of opportunityI know that the human being and the fish can coexist.Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.Put food on your family!Knock down the tollbooth!Vulcanize society!Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!—–
Hell yes he’s an idiot, and an immature one at that. I present evidence #529….
“A top insider let slip when explaining why President Bush is paranoid around women, always worried about his behavior. But he’s still a funny, earthy guy who, for example, can’t get enough of fart jokes. He’s also known to cut a few for laughs, especially when greeting new young aides, but forget about getting people to gas about that.
Read entire column here: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/articles/060820/28whisplead.htm
The short answer is “yes”.
The long answer is that Bush has demonstrated since the beginning that he was more interested in winning the presidency than in being president. I am quite sympathetic to people with language disorders, but that is not what is happening here. Bush simply can not articulate his reasons for doing much of anything unless he has had a lot of preparation beforehand. He is disinterested in policy, certainly disinterested in the long term consequences of policy, and those are extremely unfortunate and dangerous traits in a president.
When LRB says “let it go” it means you caught me out and I don’t have a leg to stand on.
“Let it go.”
That’s probably as close to an admission of error we can hope from LRB, but, damn, I was looking forward to the detailed explanation of the formal versus informal uses of Nihongo.
Just trying to figure out when to use “wa” or “ga” as a subject marker is almost impossible, so I was hoping to get an education on this much more complex topic.
Alas, we must “let it go.”
Is Bush an idiot? Dumb as a bag of rocks.
He’s tough on comedians though, how the hell could anybody parody somebody like that!
It’s insulting to rocks to say “Bush is AS dumb as a bag of rocks”!
I don’t think George Bush is an idiot or dumb. He is a lot smarter than many of the people who post on this blog.
But do I think he is incompetent and not fully Presidentially qualified for the position? Yes!
But he isn’t dumb. He’s just not the right person for that position. He should be a mid-level government worker or in mid-management in some company. But running the country or the State of Texas isn’t his forte’.
Ol, Scarborough is one conservative talk show host that I can stand.Seems to be a little more intelligent, and fact-driven than the rest of the yahoos who are on the tv and airwaves.
At least he has the balls to speak up!!!
[Alas, we must "let it go."]
Yes. The Japanese call their homeland Nihon.
That’s just the way it is.
Or Nippon.
They use both.
Let it go.
Joe,”He should be a mid-level government worker or in mid-management in some company.”
You definitely don’t want to bring up his history with oil companies — or his baseball work.
Bush an idiot, two examples, reading my pet goat while the country is under attack, groping the german chancler. just two in a long list.
GaryC,Have you browsed? http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/people/joescarborough
Hehe, LRB, it’s obvious the Cap’n knows a little more about the Japanese language than you do!
Let it go.
bush belongs in a position where basically he does nothing. Like one of many vice presidents for some big company or something that just says yes to the CEO.
Of course, we are forgetting that that is EXACTLY why he was elected and he his fulfilling his intended mission very well in the view of his masters. He basically does what big biz wants and stays outta their way and keeps others outta their way.
Americans would do well to remember this lesson and insight into Republicans and how they believe.
I wonder what would happen if, for some reason, Bush told Cheney to go to hell over some situation?
What would be more interesting to learn is what do the other global leaders think of Bush. Do these leaders of the world think Bush is an idiot? Now that would be good reading!
“Let it go.
As this person has demonstrated many times her modus operandi is to seize upon a single lie, repeat it ad nauseum, and count on people growing tired and going away. She never attempts to refute contrary evidence and people do eventually go away. At that point she declares victory in the “debate”. I am thinking she might have learned this rhetorical style from our “idiot president” – what do you think?
My grandfather always told me this bit of advice. You can dress up an idiot – just don’t let him speak!
Judges, may we have a ruling?
(muffled conversation)
Steven and Rage are correct! LRB has lost another round.
But she can take home the consolation prize . . . a cheese straightener.
Thanks for playing, and let’s move on to the semi-finalists . . .
huhuhuhuhuu…
He has huge ears.
Okay maybe I spoke to soon. I still feel hes a little bit better informed than Hannity, Limbaugh, O’reilly, Coulter, Malkin, Savage etc.
Dingus,
I know that you are an uber clinton jock-sniffer. As such, you may want to avoid the topic of “groping”.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!!
Critics are getting closer to accurately describing the jackass in the White House masquerading as President. “Idiot” is nearing the true description of “f..king idiot.”
There used to be comparison videos on the web that showed a “then and now” version of Bush. The “then” was of him during a debate over 10 years ago, when he was running for Gov. of Texas. He was articulate. He appeared to know what he was talking about. He didn’t stumble, stutter, pause, or make up words.
We’ve all viewed the “now” version of this man, and many of us have found him lacking, to say the least. There was obviously a vast difference in the man 10 years ago than what we see today. Alcohol? Drugs? I don’t know, but I’d venture a guess at possibly both.
I wish I the link to share, but it’s no longer there. If I should happen to run across it somewhere else, I will.
I FOUND IT!!
Bless Google!
Please watch this. I’d love to hear your comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo
[Hehe, LRB, it's obvious the Cap'n knows a little more about the Japanese language than you do!
Let it go.]
It’s Nihon. Sorry. There really isn’t anything to discuss. You were proven wrong by your own sources. The Japanese people call their home Nihon. Why is that so hard to acept?
But I now doubt you were ever in Japan since you would have know this. I think I can prove it.
What are Ganguro Girls called and where do they hang out.
Just how in the hell is Japanese phraseology remotely relevant to this or the other thread where it has disrupted the topic?
[Just how in the hell is Japanese phraseology remotely relevant to this or the other thread where it has disrupted the topic?]
It’s about idiocy. The idiocy in this case is not understanding what a nation calls itself. That is a Bush-ism if one ever existed.
RD – nose candy. A “slip” resulting from too much pressure when things go wrong.
It looked like 10 yrs. ago Bush could speak from rote. Must be losing his memorization ability, and having to come up with his own words. And, God only knows what the next one out of his mouth will be!
He is both an idiot and a running dog of AIPAC/PNAC. He will not hesitate to shed American blood for zionist aggression. In his own way he literally believes that by supplying Israel with arms and funds that he is fulfilling Old Testament prophecy. Evangelicals believe that by supplying Israel with weapons that God will bestow favor upon them. President Bush lets his faith overrule his reason. In this way he is no different from the Iranian president Ahmadinejad.
Watching LRB deconstruct herself is like watching a slow-motion train wreak.
You don’t want to look, but you can’t turn away.
I worked for two years in Hokkaido, Japan, but I had some familiarity with the Chinese characters because I was in China for a year previous to that.
Sad, just sad.
I never heard of the Ganguro Girls, but I haven’t been to Japan–oops, I mean NIPPON KOKU (or Nihon Koku either one is fine)–since 1990.
I am in process of sending an e-mail to a Japanese teacher at a local college, so we can settle this once and for all, even though I know damn well I’m right.
Will post the reply for all to see when I get it . . .
Capn I am asking you to stop.
Please consult the other threads for my reason.
“It’s Nihon. Sorry. There really isn’t anything to discuss. You were proven wrong by your own sources. The Japanese people call their home Nihon. Why is that so hard to acept?”
Cap was not proven wrong by his own sources.
To recap, you opened this Japanese debate with:
Cap-”I guess she calls China “Zhung Guo” or Japan “Nippon” or Germany “Deutschland,” because that’s what the local indigenous people call it.”
You-”It’s Nihon, not Nippon.
But that doesn’t make any difference to you. You just call ‘em Japs, right?”
Note that you presume to correct the good Capn on his usage. Not your exclusionary use of language. Nihon is correct, Nippon is incorrect.
Cap’s response was:
“LRB said that the Japanese call their country Nihon not Nippon.
Actually, they call it both.”
And that’s exactly what Cap’s sources said:
“Nihon or Nippon; officially ??? Nihon or Nippon-koku”
“They call it either Nihon or Nippon.”
“”Nippon” or “Nihon”?These two words meaning “Japan” have both been in use for at least five hundred years. The use of “Nippon” has generally been more common than the softer-sounding “Nihon,” but the decision on which to adopt officially has yet to be made. In international sporting events, however, “Nippon” is used almost exclusively, perhaps because of its more authoritative-sounding ring and more eye-catching design when alphabetized. Besides “Nippon” and “Nihon,” the name “Jippon” was also once used. This may have been the forerunner of the English word “Japan” and its equivalents in other languages.”
It is not good enough to you to demonstrate that Nihon is a correct form. Cap already indicated that it was. It is incumbant on you to show that Nippon is incorrect. You have failed to do so. What’s more, your claim that the Capn’s own sources support your exclusionary claim is clearly false. Cap claimed both were correct, and that’s what his sources indicated. Since the words are right there in black in white, either you are willfully lying, you have serious problems with reading comprehension, or you are now trying to make this a Nihon verse Nippon claim where the Capn is claiming Nippon to the exclusion of Nihon, which he is not. Indeed, you have provided no evidence for your exclusionary claim whatsoever other than your “daughter teaching in Japan” calling the Capn an idiot. That’s not evidence of anything except perhaps that your shortcomings were inherited by your daughter.
Do you really think repeating the same contention over and over again in the face of contrary evidence is doing anything other than making you look like a complete fool?
ksagnostic.
Things are not always as they seem. Drop it. For me ok?
Will,
Do you really believe Dubya is an Evangelical Christian?
Or is he merely the patsy for those who might follow that route for their own benefit? Which has far less to do with religion and God than it does with $$$.
Amen…RD….Amen. Follow the money
I second JR’s request. I didn’t see the other threads, but I’ll ask the purple chicken to clue me in, so no problem.
I have no problem with an idiot at the helm, if that idiot at least know how to listen and heed the advice from others with more wisdom. But HIM, he has no respect for intellectualism, he’s downright hostile toward knowledge. May God have mercy on us all…
At least Finland had the good sense to have Conan O’Brien campaign for the president. Hyvä Suomi!
“Things are not always as they seem. Drop it. For me ok?”
OK.
I can understand Bush winning the first time. He really was an unknown product. The second time!We could talk all day about how dumb Bush is or how dumb Dean is.But the re-election show how dumb the majority of voters can be.
Thanks, KSAgnostic. You understand how LRB operates. She’s a infuriating combination of ignorance and arrogance.
JR, I’m sorry about hijacking the thread, but it’s just maddening to be told you’re wrong about a simple fact that is manifestly true.
Also, I don’t know what “grassy knoll” you have cooked up this time. But if you think I have anything to do with the idiotic posts of LRB, your imagination is running away with you.
I couldn’t write in such a lifeless style if I forced myself.
BTW, my e-mail is live.
Cheerio.
JR, Rage–
The chicken flew.
Cap’n
He’s no more stupid than a president who activley ignored repeated attacks around the world by bad actors and whose only distraction and excuse for missing all the signs of world terror on the rise was his “official duties” lying about his “offical duties” in the Oval Office with “that woman….”.
Ignoring the problem did not make it go away in the 90’s – all shortsighted folks expect he same thing to work now I guess – glad these folks were not in charge when Germany was doing the same thing in Europe.
Ahh.. Yes he is, and much, much more!!
Bill Clinton did not do any worse than George Bush Sr. and Ronald Reagan while president. In fact, Bush Sr. and Reagan were the ones that got Saddam in power in Iraq – weren’t they in the 1980’s? And the only comeback you Republicans has is – Bill Clinton’s sex life. What a joke.
RRN–
By “ignored” do you mean when Clinton’s people arrested and convicted the perpetrators of the first World Trade Center bombing (see Ramzi Yousef)?
Or stopped the car full of bombs at the Canada border (Ahmad Ressam) headed for the Millenial Celebration in LA, New Year’s Eve, 1999.
Or blew up Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan narrowly missing OBL, an act that was widely ridiculed by the right-wing as a “distraction” from The Starr Report out at the same time?
*****
Spin it however you want. 9-11 happened under President Cuckoo-Bananas.
He was warned. He could have done something.
He went on vacation.
RD,
The Bush video displays a striking difference. HWBush used to have some of the same difficulty that W has had.
Early onset dementia is supposed to be genetic — I haven’t heard HW lately, but as near as I can recall, he never sounded as bad as the “10 years later” made W sound.
I am thinking that if Bush truly had a pre-senile dementia, it would show up more consistently and in a number of other executive function areas.
So, I would say, while interesting, I am unconvinced so far.
If he describes himself as an evangelical Christian then yes, it would merit me describing him as such.
just being president for 2 terms doesn’t automatically make him not an idiot.
yes, he is one.
Sorry, Could’t resist the play on words. Boy back then we STILL had no idea how idiotic an idiot can be did we? bush expands the definition every day. J R
What I find most facinating…is how the (rightwing) public and the (rightwing) media can crucify Bill and Hillary on a daily basis without so much as a blink, but Bush (43) is some goldenboy…I know, maybe people feel guilt about making fun of the retarded.
WHAT? Budh id vilified in every major newspaper. 98% of the stories. Bush is no “Golden BOy” of the media.
Most of the media is like NBC and the Washington Post, crooked and far left cheerleaders. Look at that putz Arkin. Some “Military News Analysis”!!! Has not been in the Armed Services and written books that are ASNTI military and Anti American.
I think the tide is turning with Iraq and the American Public. They now know that they were lied to by the left wing media and the left wingers, and the DemocratIC party?
Only now is it turning.
When the military does get home there will be political but kickings. The Republicans will not have to take that,
WHAT? Budh id vilified in every major newspaper. 98% of the stories. Bush is no “Golden BOy” of the media.
Most of the media is like NBC and the Washington Post, crooked and far left cheerleaders. Look at that putz Arkin. Some “Military News Analysis”!!! Has not been in the Armed Services and written books that are ASNTI military and Anti American.
I think the tide is turning with Iraq and the American Public. They now know that they were lied to by the left wing media and the left wingers, and the DemocratIC party?
Only now is it turning.
When the military does get home there will be political but kickings. The Republicans will not have to take that,
Christ, Ass, do you have an English translation for your post?
Good joke ASS! Is that why Judith Miller and others at the New York Times acted as cheerleaders during the run-up to the invasion? Is that why they parroted his lies to justify the war?
The press has been extremely slow to wake up to this idiot who you worship so.
Hey retardant fire material Er….I mean fire retardant material. Are you drinking or wishing? (J R cues Jiminy Cricket)
Just ignore the crackpots Asbestos.
Notice they won’t address your by your screen name properly:
(check number one)
Notice how they have to discount anything you say without providing a legitimate argument)
(check two)
Notice how they only attack you not the message as they have no clue.
(check three)
Three bad checks…the Lib test, they’re out!
I know there Eier, but the sad thing is that they think they are putting forth an “intellectual argument”.
This is the Left at their best. Do not debate, just throw a fit and personally attack your apponent. Don’t worry about the facts. They are like a bunch of Amway or Quixtar salespeople, you know “If the dream is bige enough, the facts don’t matter!” Such as the Democratic Party saying is know “If you hate George Bush enough, the facts don’t matter!”
Truly a sorry lot.
You are funny man, Asbestos! Are you and Eier and Gee Sure a comedy act?
I thought it was just Eier and Gee, but apparently you are part of the Colbert imitation routine, also.
Funny shit, anyway!!!!
Awww I’m hurt! Egg the upstart pooh poohed my post. Hey Asbestos? You agree with me on immigration. How come on this easiest of issues frat boy george managed to get it worse than everyone since Reagan?
JR, I am at a loss. Maybe there is a pretty Seniorita south of Crawford. That is the only excuse I have. I am simply at a loss. Did you see where Ramos (the BP agent that was sentenced with Compeon) was beat up in prison by illegal aliens criminals?
That is a TOTAL disgrace with those 2 BP agents going to jail and the drug dealer given immunity and counsel for running away from the BP agents. DISGUSTING!!!
This Eier guy is totally JM.
Damn, I thought we were really rid of him.
Is JM really black?
Or was that an egg zageration?
That’s right, Captian, your intent on the blog is clear.
Not to debate facts, but to “get rid of him”. Get rid of those that do not agree with you. VERY American,… NOT! Very democratic and open minded,… NOT!