Actor and director Mel Gibson deserves all the bad publicity and career troubles he gets for his over-the-top and quite believable performance as a Jew hater. During a recent drunken-driving arrest, Gibson uttered a string of anti-Semitic curses, including, “The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.”
"There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who thinks or expresses any kind of anti-Semitic remark," Gibson said in an apology Tuesday.
Those not inclined to hold Gibson accountable say it was the liquor talking. But the passion of Gibson’s tirade seemed to come from a deep-seated and authentic place. It doesn’t help that Gibson is already suspect on this issue: He famously refused to renounce his father’s book that denied the Holocaust, and his controversial movie “The Passion of the Christ” was accused by some of containing anti-Semitic themes.
The latter charge is debatable. But on the question of whether Gibson is a Jew hater, the police report seems to provide ample evidence. Unfortunately, they don’t treat that disease at the Betty Ford Clinic.
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A Jew hater? Last time I checked, the Catholic Church affirm the Jewishness of Jesus. Or, did he just forget that “minor” detail?
I think we are never more honest than when we are intoxicated! It appears that Mr. Gibsons true feeling were expressed.
Before judging Gibson too harshly, go into any political chat room and say something “pro-Israel”The biggoted statements you get back from the mostly Bush-hating left will curl your hair.It breaks my heart that Gibson did this.I hope he doesnt really mean it.However, I am firmly convinced that a large segment of the anti Bush left is anti Bush BECAUSE Bush is pro Israel.No, not everyone critical of Israel is a bigot.However, just try my test and see what kind of names you are called by those who hate Bush and hate Jews with equal measure.
And that pent up hatred has obviously helped keep him drunk.IF he manages to sober up for at least a couple of years I’ll check up and undoubtedly see an entirely different person.
No thanks Paul.There’s plenty of abuse to go around right here (as you well know), and I’m sure to get my fair share with a smart-ass attitude like mine.
Who else was their with the police that could prove what was wrote in the report was said. The police sometimes embellish the truth for their 10 mins of fame.
I am not anti-Bush because of his support for Israel. I am anti-Bush because of his policies – both foreign and domestic.
“However, I am firmly convinced that a large segment of the anti Bush left is anti Bush BECAUSE Bush is pro Israel.”
DING DING DING DING DING
…and once again, paul rings the ding dong bell!!!!!
heheh no Paul, I am anti bush because I am anti F****** MORON!
Mel knows all about the Zionists, “neoncons” (that’s code, BTW) and purveyors of $3 “Jew-gas”. He’d fit right in here at Moonbat Central.
Well, now that’s the last straw
Gibson isn’t mainstream Catholic. He belongs to a splintered sect which holds pre-Vatican 2 practices such as saying the Mass in Latin only. It saddens me to hear about this ugly little incident. I do so enjoy his movies, from the Mad Max series, the Lethal Weapon series and the Passion. Seriously though, what kind of a world is it when a man has to watch what he says even when he’s drunk!? Hell, when I’m drunk I say some pretty nasty stuff about the Spanish. Who cares? If a man can’t even walk straight while intoxicated, why then should we take anything he says seriously when he can’t even think straight!? Old Mel was just a victim of saying the wrong shit at the wrong time.
Jews are so defensive because they were victims of genocide. It is true that this is no laughing matter, but has everyone forgotten what they did to the people of Canaan in the book of Joshua? Yeah. They can dish it out, but they can’t take it?
People like Gibson make it difficult for those like myself who criticize the radicals who run Israel. There IS a difference between opposing the radicals and being an anti-Semite.
The only difference is Gibson actually said what he meant.
WHO CARES, THEY BOTH GOT LAYED.
CruWill – not only to they claim credit for comitting genocide in Joshua they also claim that their “angel” killed the babies of their enemies in Egypt. Not Pharoah’s army; their babies.
Think of the uproar if THEIR captives managed to find a way to kill all of Israel’s children.
Ben,and it was done by God’s Will. That’s the part I always had difficulty with you know? Old Testament God vs. New Testament God. They seem like they’re on opposite ends of the spectrum. O.T. being fire and brimstone, N.T. being all lovey-dovey. But in the case of the Egyptians Ben, they did feed the Jewish kids to Nile crocodiles and enslaved them. Remember the story of Moses.
War can be, and is mass murder, where the motive is wrong.It can be sacrifice and right action, where the motive is right. The slaying of a man in the act of killing the defenseless is not regarded as murder. The principle remains the same, whether it is killing an individual who is murdering, or fighting a nation which is warring on the defenseless.
NO ONE will defend what Gibson apparantly said; I certainly won’t.
However, ALL OF US have at one point or another said incredibly stupid things (and Ed, with more and recent frequency) and things we don’t mean. When under the influence, the stupid gene seems to step to the front much more. He has apologized about as profusely and completely as a man could. That does not excuse it, nor make it go away. He’s human, and sometimes has to pry his foot out of his mouth (or this time, his whole leg). While I do not condone his statements, neither does one stupid statement wipe out his body of work.
If Hollywood can tolerate child rapists like Roman Polanski, this is relatively minor. Condemn the statement, demand appropriate atonement and groveling, and move on.
All I’m saying is if you put a Jew next to an Arab, I can’t tell the difference…
When did the Jews become a protected species?
Drunk or not, one does not utter racist comments without thinking them! Mel is clearly a racist, just as most of the far-right freakos are. Anti-semitism and other forms of racism and bigotry are rampant among the so-called Christian Right (which are neither!). I hope his career tanks, and takes with it the holier-than-thou pseudo Christian movement. Leave Christianity to those who follow his teachings!
Biz – when they wrote the “BOOK”
How this must smart for the far Christian right.
When their beloved “The Passion of the Christ” was selling them millions of tickets, there were calls that the movie had anti-semitic undertones. I’d say this incident confirms that.
I’ve enjoyed some of Gibsons work. But I always had a sense that he was sorta…. crazy. I’d say this incident confirms that as well.
This is probably the end for his public career. I don’t say it should be, but it probably is.
Oh and by the way Paul F Rosell? Your assertion that those on the left hate pResident bush because they also hate jews is asinine. But then asinine is your signature.
In fact, I don’t THINK bush is likely well regarded by the Jewish people. You know, considering his family made their money laundering money for Nazi Germany?
Hm. Well, I guess Mel was a right-wing nutjob when he made a film about JEEEEESUS (shudder), but lately he seems to have drifted into Michael Moore/Oliver Stone territory:
“Film star and director Mel Gibson has launched a scathing attack on US President George W Bush, comparing his leadership to the barbaric rulers of the Mayan civilisation in his new film Apocalypto.
The epic, due for release later this year, captures the decline of the Maya kingdom and the slaughter of thousands of inhabitants as human sacrifices in a bid to save the nation from collapsing.
Gibson reveals he used present day American politics as an inspiration, claiming the government callously plays on the nation’s insecurities to maintain power.
He tells British film magazine Hotdog, “The fear-mongering we depict in the film reminds me of President Bush and his guys”.
Mel should have been more specific and said “the wars in the mid-east”.
JackstrawVery, very good link.Now that the lefties in here know Gibson was anti Bush, and anti-Iraq war, they will probably forgive him.By the way, lefties, the truth is that Israel would not survive in the world without the political support given to Israel by the Evangelical Christians in America.
JackstrawVery, very good link.Now that the lefties in here know Gibson was anti Bush, and anti-Iraq war, they will probably forgive him.By the way, lefties, the truth is that Israel would not survive in the world without the political support given to Israel by the Evangelical Christians in America.
Get over yourself Paul R., you e-v-a-n-g-e-l-i-c-a-l-s just aren’t that important.We’re on to you now and we will do what we can to block your attempts to make this country into a theocracy.
Calling him anti-semetic is a misnomer. Look it up in the dictionary.
Call him a Jew hater.
And there’s nothing wrong with hating them. You’d think after thousands of years of persecution by damn near every society they’ve infested, they might want to take deep look at themselves and ask “Why?”
Just remember, to them you non-jews are just goyim to be exploited, lied to and stolen from. It says so in the Talmud. Look it up.
The Jews are the most ethnocentric, racist, hateful group of people on the planet. Always have been. Always will be.
Wake up. With Jews, you lose.
Well, Paul, the usurper, I, for one, enjoyed Mel’s movies, including the Passion. I thought it well done, historically accurate, and very thought provoking. The fact jews were, at that time, being persecuted, did not lead me to believe Mel was predjudicial in his interpretation of events.
His rant when arrested for drunk driving was inexcusable. He will have to do a lot better than make some meaningless speech about how sorry he is to negate the damage he has done.
His rant about Bush was voicing a conclusion any semi-intelligent human being would come to after seeing the events unfold during this so-called presidents reign. Any really intelligent human knew this the minute Bush opened his mouth for the first time.
It’s the TFMs who stick by his uselessness.
No one that I know, left or right is “forgiving” Mel for his tirade . . . well, except Ed and Ian.
So your “conclusion” appears to be just another one of your mindless flufferies (hey, is that a new word?).
And I only had to say it once!
He’s a big Democrat and big Democrat supporter and donor. Doesn’t surpise me.
Yeah! He hates Jews. It’s called the “Three Beer Truth” and he spoke it.
Good grief. A man made some obnoxious statements while in his cups. What’s to forgive?
I would bet joe a $1000 that Mel is neither a democrat nor a major democratic supporter
Mel doesn’t show up as a political contributor on NewsMeat, and many are listed.
Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!
“He’s a big Democrat and big Democrat supporter and donor. Doesn’t surpise me”
Uh, got any proof there buddy? Or just more wild speculation?
I seem to remember he campaigned for king george, no?
Joe, you are wrong. I doubt anyone’s surprised.
I gave up watching Gibson movies when his extremely masochistic tendencies became apparent. Yes, there’s suffering in the world, but to glorify it the way his movies do is just plain sick.
Careful Todd. Ed has some big tough friends.
I believe you’re right about Ed’s friends. Guido comes to mind…
hee hee hee RD
When I lived in Joizy, that is what the girls there called some guys. We’d be at a club and one of them would roll her eyes and say “oh geez, guido alert”…
And sure enough, here would come this middle aged Italian guy with thinning hair in a bad combover, gold chains around his neck and his shirt collar open to show his hairy chest.
Oh yeah. Usually dressed in his courtin’ clothes otherwise known as leisure suits and REEKING of Brute and cheap scotch.
heheh. Yep. Guido alert!
For all of Ed’s rants against Jews isn’t Friedmann a Jewish name?
I don’t know, but I think it’s pretty clear that he’s ready to be shipped off to the Laughing Academy. He is completely and totally consumed with paranoia about Jews.
Things are boring today- I might go with him!
Ed- Think we can land a group discount?
Boring? Oh gster, did you ck out the connie morris thread?
I dunno- do you think I might catch somethin’ arful? She looks meaner than a Gondarf!
Ed? If you will dial back a bit on your delivery, I will read your link.
Todd, Ed is obviously VERY passionate about this issue. This is not new and he is consistent. Given the events in the world it might be better to err on the side of knowing why.
No comment necessary.
Does Gibson REALLY hate Jews? Like I said upthread, it would seem so. I’m prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I will NOT give Joe Williams the benefit of the doubt. He doesn’t give it to Gibson. And as usual, Joe opened his mouth and inserted his foot. In this case clear up to his knee. Let’s watch the replay….
Joe says.
“He’s a big Democrat and big Democrat supporter and donor. Doesn’t surpise me.Yeah! He hates Jews. It’s called the “Three Beer Truth” and he spoke it.”
Well gee Joe, you are entitled to your judgemental opinion. You are NOT entitled to make an innocent party guilty by association! Particularly when you are WRONG!
I found this on “The Primary Source” a CONSERVATIVE blog.
“Not all of Hollywood behaves this way, however. Conservative weblog Free Republic has published a list of conservative celebrities, ranging from NASCAR drivers, to country singers, to athletes and actors. The list is astonishingly long, yet it contained few big-name Hollywood actors. This can be attributed to the fact that there is a bias in Hollywood against conservatives. The film industry often pictures Republicans as enraged right-wing bible-thumpers. The conservatives in Hollywood therefore have to hide their political affiliation for fear of being persecuted.Organizations such as the Liberty Film Festival give hope to conservatives. Bigwig celebrities such as Mel Gibson are starting to make it acceptable to be a conservative in the film industry.”
When ya get up off the canvas Joe, you can apologize.
I clicked your link Ian. I didn’t “hear” anything. That may be my technology.
As I said Ed, you are obviously deeply motivated by the issue. I want to understand why. But I think more people would take you seriously if you were not QUITE so strident. Just my opinion.
Could somebody help Joe up? lol
Sorry, I tripped over Joe.
That last should be “I clicked you link ED”
Looks like Ed got the Mossad treatment.
Wow, all of my and Ed’s post have been deleted. I think the time is coming to name the jew around here. My post on Israel’s declaration of war on civilians was zapped as were my post containing quotes by jews admitting their plotting of various wars, hmm. I gather that the truth is offensive to Rhonda(?) ???
Viva La raza Blanco!!!
This was my post regarding the zionist intentionally waging war against civilians.
PS: You keep censoring and I will keep re-posting!!!!!
Yesha Rabbinical Council: During time of war, enemy has no innocents
The Yesha Rabbinical Council announced in response to an IDF attack in Kfar Qanna that “according to Jewish law, during a time of battle and war, there is no such term as ‘innocents’ of the enemy.”
All of the discussions on Christian morality are weakening the spirit of the army and the nation and are costing us in the blood of our soldiers and civilians,” the statement said. (Efrat Weiss)
(07.30.06, 17:37)http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3283720,00.html
V.L.R.B!!!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12052006/364/gibson-inspired-fear-mongering-bush.html
Why would I want your posts deleted, Ed? They expose you for the complete whack-job you are. I know there will be more wackiness forthcoming from you, however, so no big deal.
You`d think, after thousands of years of persecution, the Jewish communitie`s skin would be thick enough to tolerate the ramblings of a drunken fool.
Is “communitie`s” incorrect?
I could care less if they remove my foul mouthed post.Ian you need to take your hate mongering whiney ass back to Cuba where you came from.I’d bet you NEVER have to worry about illegal immigrants when you lived there.
Here is what Mona Charen, a conservative Jew, has to say:http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MonaCharen/2006/08/03/mad_mel
Oh boy, Mona Charen; what a voice of freedom and justice she stands for. After reading her column, I came to the conclusion she has no ideas the emminate from her own mind. She’s mouthing the neo-con spin puppets, Rush Coulter, et al, and the Republican hard line lunies.
I, too, saw Munich, and came away with the impression the agents sent out to punish the terrorists involved in the olympic slayings, did their job in a professional manner. They did not target innocent civilians, although they did, at one time, go a bit overboard. That can be easily explained by the heat of the battle syndrome. If you ain’t experienced it, there’s no explaining it. They wern’t, as Mona claimed, “”Munich” is a taut, sophisticated thriller that portrays Israeli agents as cold-blooded, conscienceless killers altogether on the same moral plane as the terrorists they track.” Nonsense.
So Jewish influence in Hollywood is bad for Jews? And bringing Moore into the picture makes your point? Mona, you got the brains of a frog. Your whole column is verbal garbage. Get a real job.
Tracy
Without taking a position, if you look at the demographics, the races cluster together just as Ian is saying that they should. Does that mean we’ve been taught not to talk about what people are really thinking and do when they have a free choice?
Being the devil advocate: Whose idea was it to integrate? And what makes that the right thing to do?
The people are voting with their feet. And it’s not just white people, it’s each race that decides that they’d rather live with their own kind.
I shop at a cheap grocery store called sac n’ save, I’m the only white guy in there. The Latinos who shop with me have never given me any trouble, nor I them. They smile and say hello, so do I.
{ I only buy Jewish Rye bread, it the best by far }.
If Ian doesn’t like integration, almost nobody else seems to either.
Ed you are simply talking about freedom of choice.Not the same as enforced racism.Apples and oranges.My neighborhood and town are very integrated by freedom of choice.And for some piece of shit immigrant, second generation or not, to suggest that it should not be freedom of choice is outragous and unnacceptable. Period.I merely suggested that he exercise that choice and move back to his beloved cuba.Fair enough?If he doesn’t like freedom then he can move back where everyone is cuban brown and no foreigner wants to immigrate there. This jack-ass is damned un-american. America is becoming more and more integrated by choice and if he doesn’t want that then he should get the hell out. Period.
Oh, and GOOD MORNING Ed.Nice to hear from ya’.
The world is one world, and its sufferings are one; humanity is in truth a unity, but many are still unaware of this, and the whole trend of christian teaching is directed to the awakening of humanity to this, while there is yet time to avert still more serious conditions.The sins of humanity are also one. Its goal is one, and it is as one great human family that we must emerge into the future.I would emphasise this thought:it is as one humanity, chastened, disciplined but illumined and fused, that we must emerge into the future.Those who do not grasp this important fact, whether they are belligerent or neutral, will suffer deeply as a result of their refusal to accept this fact.The Holy trinity is not neutral. It is one with the right element in every nation, and set against all separative, isolationist and materialistic attitudes. Such attitudes prevent the apprehension of the true spiritual values, and hinder human development. Identification with all, and participation in world conditions -voluntarily and not from force – is the way today for all peoples.
Ponder on this.
Tracy
I know that you don’t like Ian, but can you get passed the name calling long enough and address my question?
Your neighborhood may be all salt and pepper, but the nation is not.
Can you explain why the vast majority of Americans prefer to live in groups with their own race?