Bush message tanks with the young

President Bush’s approval rating among 18- to 24-year-olds is a rock-bottom 20 percent, according to a Bloomberg/Los Angeles Times poll — compared with about 40 percent among adults in the same poll. That’s not an encouraging sign for GOP elders hoping to attract a new generation of voters.
"The very cultural issues the president wants to use to rally his party’s base are exactly the issues that are alienating younger voters," said Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University in New Jersey. "Across a broad swath of social issues, younger Americans see the administration as being out of line with what they believe."
Posted by Randy Scholfield

20 Comments

  1. GaryC.
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

    That is correct Randy.

    I have just recently left this group a couple years ago, but I would say most people in this age group:

    -believe in legal safe abortion-could care less about gays-Think its time to legalize marijuana-Have respect for people of different race, culture, and background (this is not a liberal ideal, its called being a reasonable human being)-And believe that President Bush manipulated this war to financially benefit his friends.

  2. gster
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    I’d say , given his steady and continual plunge in ratings, this clown has tanked with everyone. I can’t imagine what the next 2+ years of his increasing incompetence will bring!

  3. ddub
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 7:24 pm | Permalink

    Young Americans, 18-24 (the age group I currently reside in): Why do you hate Amerika? Don’t you know you can achieve everything you have ever wanted by just turning off your critical thinking skills, covering your ears, waving the flag, thumping the Bible (without actually reading it, of course) and, most importantly, voting Republican? I mean, you’re not a *real* Amerikan if you don’t vote R, EVERY time.

    Seriously, though, the Republicans better enjoy this last three months in total control, because a shitstorm is about to hit our national fascist party, one that ain’t letting up for years.

  4. outlander
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 7:40 pm | Permalink

    The survey results are not surprising. The young are always more liberal. Quoting Winston Churchill;

    “If you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 40, you have no brain.”

  5. XXX
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    What difference does it make? 18 to 24 year-olds don’t vote.

  6. Paul F. Rosell
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    The 18 to 24 age group IN UNIFORM is still strongly behind Bush.Also, when this age group gets older, they will wish Bush’s social security warnings had been taken seriously.

  7. gster
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 9:45 pm | Permalink

    Dreamer!!

  8. GaryC.
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Paul,

    They are trained to support Bush.

    When they come home and later find out the real reasons for their deployment to the middle east, their fondness will wane.

    How many Vietnam Vets think of Johnson as a hero?

  9. RightNut
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:04 pm | Permalink

    Paul’s right!

    Which is worse? Saddam’s terrorism or Miami under 20 feet of water from global warming?

    Thank God W. is protecting us from the threats that really matter . . .

  10. .morg
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/article324.html

    Adjusting to civilian life after serving in the military has always been a daunting challenge for soldiers, but as the Iraq war continues with no end in sight, an increasing number of returning American soldiers are finding it tough merely to put a roof over their heads.

  11. CR
    Posted August 8, 2006 at 11:28 pm | Permalink

    With the way George W and his cronies are going, we will not have the luxury of being a super power anymore. His bunch has already run up the deficit until no one can see the end and he still insists that he is right – right – right. This is one man that will NEVER admit he is and has been wrong! Pride goeth before the fall.

  12. ddub
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    “”If you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 40, you have no brain.” ”

    Perhaps you have never read about Churchill’s life before WWII or the political situation in Britain before the 1920s. Churchill switched from the party of his father, the Conservative Party, to the Liberal Party, only to rejoin the Conservative Party at a later date. He was, how does one say, a free agent? (Or to wingnuts, a flip-flopper)

    I also especially like all of the rationalizations from the nuts on here. FACE IT: your party stands for nothing but insane wars of choice, enriching the already rich, and forcing your warped ‘morals’ down others’ throats. And W is the poster-boy for this shit. And thus, he is slightly more popular than a 500 level Chemistry class.

  13. outlander
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for posting that quote again ddub. I have been looking for a place to use it for a while. I would think that going from the Liberal party to the Conservative would be quite consistent with the quote. BTW, no offense intended to older libs and flower children.

    I agree with you that the Republcian party today is too much about pandering to the rich. I have been disappointed as this has developed.

    But in regard to fighting the war on terrorism, we are doing what needs to be done. You young liberals have not lived long enough to recognize omminous happenings in the world when you see them. Our way of life is in jeopardy. Open your eyes.

    Concerning morals, well just wait ’til you have kids. That cures most folks of hedonistic tendencies!

  14. Posted August 9, 2006 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

    Outlander,”But in regard to fighting the war on terrorism, we are doing what needs to be done.”

    You need to look at the changes in opinion during the last few years.http://www.pollingreport.com/terror.htm

    “You young liberals have not lived long enough to recognize omminous happenings in the world when you see them.”

    No, they recognize the civil war over there, how the region has been destabilized, and many other problems.

    “Young liberals” also recognize the ominous signs (and strong science) of global warming. Most of the R’s ignore GW… some even call it a “hoax”.

    “Concerning morals,..”? What will life on Earth be like decades and centuries from now, if we don’t try to reverse GW?It is NOT “moral” to disrupt the climate of our only planet! A parent who ignores GW is immoral.

  15. Steven Davis
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    “I agree with you that the Republcian party today is too much about pandering to the rich. I have been disappointed as this has developed.”

    “too much about”??? What else do they do?

    And, am I reading you correctly when I read this:

    “But in regard to fighting the war on terrorism, we are doing what needs to be done.”

    Having our soldiers killed by being stuck in a sectarian civil war is “what needs to be done”????

    As I have said before, I am not sure what all needs to be done in our Middle East policy, but I am sure that continuing the current course in Iraq is not “what needs to be done” — for us or them.

  16. outlander
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 9:32 pm | Permalink

    Steven: In retrospect, I think that we all wish we had not invaded Iraw. But you are a smart enough man to know that in wartime, things sometimes do not go as they are planned. Actually, they usually don’t go as planned. So what? It does not diminish the necessity or validity of the cause.

    That is why I am dissappointed by those who apparently do not see the big picture, and who want to bail out ever since it has become what the President originally told them it would be; a long hard slog. They think everything will be OK if we can just withdraw. Well, it wouldn’t be OK for long. Islamic facscism must be confronted and defeated.

  17. RD
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 10:21 pm | Permalink

    Outlander,

    Planned? What about the invasion of Iraq was planned?

    Wasn’t it GW who said that no action should be taken without an exit plan? Oh, that’s right. He said it when Bubba was prez. Doesn’t work both ways.

    “You young liberals have not lived long enough to recognize omminous happenings in the world when you see them.”

    And just what young liberals are you talking about? I think if we took an age poll, you’d realize that the majority of liberals on this blog are not young. Except at heart.

  18. RD
    Posted August 9, 2006 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    Forgot to add…

    But thanks for the compliment. :)

  19. rachel
    Posted August 10, 2006 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    what the hell does an 18 year old know about anything? They are too busily cuaght up in their materialistic lives.

  20. Posted August 10, 2006 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    Outlander (to Steven),”But you are a smart enough man to know that in wartime, things sometimes do not go as they are planned.”

    Actually, things have gone mostly like opponents to the war predicted, before it started.

    “…the President originally told them it would be; a long hard slog.”

    Nope. It supposed to be a cake-walk, take a short time, flowers-in-the-street, etc.