Tom Teepen had a column in Wednesday’s Eagle voicing suspicion with President Bush’s use of the term "Islamic fascists" to describe those who allegedly plotted to blow up the London airplanes. "Given that our president has never been one to dig for just the right word or to search verbally for more clarity than his handlers can get on a note card for him, it is difficult not to suspect the puppeteer’s hand of adviser Karl Rove in this rebranding of the enemy," Teepen wrote. If so, what’s the goal? "Bush political opponents who thought the invasion of Iraq a terrible idea or who have reluctantly decided it has gone irredeemably awry can and will be accused of not understanding who the enemy is if they lag in adopting the new term," Teepen speculated. "The political hope is likely that the president’s new usage also will help to animate conservatives for the congressional elections."
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If you’re going to call Osama an Islamic terrorist, then you have to call Tim McVey a Christian terrorist.
It all comes down to religion, doesnt it?
Us against them. us = good but them=bad.
After thousands of years of these religous wars we STILL think theocracy is the way to govern?
how’s that workin….
This week Bush broke from his usual long summer vacation at his Crawford, Texas, homestead for a press conference and meetings in Washington. The week before, while the Lebanon war was still raging, Bush invited Reuters correspondent Steve Holland to join him on an hour and a half bicycle ride in 100-degree heat. (Bush holds contests for his staff at Crawford to belong to his “100-Degree Club.” When the temperature hits 100 degrees, they run three miles while the president rides his bike alongside them, urging them to run faster. “You can do it! Come on!” At the end, they receive T-shirts and pose for pictures with Bush.) “Bush does not ride quietly, constantly shouting out in his Texas twang the names of trees and geographic features and yelling at himself to pedal faster,” Holland wrote. As Bush rode up a hill, leading an entourage of sweating Secret Service agents and the reporter, he shouted to no one in particular: “Air assault!”
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2006/08/17/bush/index1.html
Anybody else wondering if this guy is just plain old-fashioned nuts?
Nope. Not wondering at all. It’s obvious!
It should be called what it is. Islamic fascism describes it well.
Capn, I’d argue that McVey was a terrorist who may have claimed to be Christian. The 911 terrorists’ motivation arose out radical Islam. That is a huge difference that makes the comparison invalid.
Too funny Capn!
I knew bush was a little dim. Now we get to find out he is a sadistic kook!
Islamofascist has it’s origin with FAR right wing talk show host Michael Savage. He started using it more than 2 years ago. It has gone through other nut radio permutations. I think the creative little troll Mark Levin is currently using “Islamonazis”Kinda disturbing that talk radio is now a part of national policy.So bushs use of the term shows that he is desperately tring to 1) Acknowledge his kook base and 2) Scare people with words (see 1)
Remember “mushroom cloud” “with us or against us”?
“It should be called what it is. Islamic fascism describes it well.”
Outlander, actually, there is considerable controversy about the term with respect to its descriptive accuracy.
See here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamo-fascism (scroll down to see the “Criticisms…” section)
Bush has a long history of sadistic behavior. When at Yale, he got in trouble for branding fraternity pledges on the butt with hangers that were heated up with cigarette lighters. There was a contemporary story about the incident in the New York Times. Bush did not understand why anyone was making a big deal out of this behavior.
If nothing else, the man is consistent. Gotta give him that much.
Actually the 9/11 attack was in response to Bin Laden’s demand that we remove our military from Saudi Arabia. After the attacks Bush removed them (although he claims he never gives into the demands of terrorists). As a result there haven’t been any more attacks from Bin Laden’s organization. However if you ask the administration they’ll tell you Bin Laden didn’t attack because Kerry didn’t get his votes counted and was refused the Presidency.
They aren’t fascists. They’re Jihadists. Bush, on the other hand, has longstanding connections to fascism through his grandfather, the Nazi sympathizer Senator Prescott Bush.
The current campaign is to dissociate fascism from pasty Europeans and to rebrand it as an Islamic phenomenon. In true fascist fashion, it’s all about erasing history.
All three of the Abrahaimic religions have a jihadist tradition – in fact Bush has declared jihad (crusade) himself.
Mussolini defined fascism as corporatism meaning turning government control over to corporations. The Bush administration is heavily in favor of privatizing public programs. He wants to privatize social security, medicare, the military, water and sewer services and many other public programs. So it sounds like Bush is more of a fascist than a bunch of theocrats who want to turn the world into an Islamic government.
However getting Bush to define fascism will probably be as difficult as the attempt to get him to define what a sovereign nation is.
youtube.com/watch?v=UWiytuW79vU&search=Sovereignty
George W. Bush is now an offical Bigot.
He, of course, is not a “Christian Crackpot”
Air assault? Am I the only one who thinks Bush was announcing that he was breaking wind?
RD- Air assault is when Bush is speaking, closely followed by ear assault , and then mind insult!
and WMD means Words of Mass Disinformation
Bush has some nerve calling anyone a “Fascist” after his “signing statements” amounted to the same thing. He’s such a two-faced jerk.
Bush is very sick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WaCJn4hdjc
The leading cause of death in Gaza is “honor killing” or the brutal murder of women for “dishonor” to their families.Honor killing is responsible for more dead Arabs than Israel ever thought of killing.
Honor Killing is a major cause of death in ALL Islamic Countries.
What is a good name for people who stage fake film footage after wars (like Gobbles) who are so brutal to their own people and who think that those who do not fit their ideology are sub-human?
Islamo Fascist works better than any other term I can think of.
That’s a bald faced lie.
Zionist-Jew artillery shells are what’s killing Palestinians you stupid excuse for a man.
Gobbles?
Who the hell is Gobbles? The propaganda minister of Turkey?
That’s what Paul does to propaganda.
Bush:”‘You know, when you have resentment and anger, that breeds hatred; that breeds recruiting grounds for people to become a suicider. Imagine the mentality of somebody willing to kill for an ideology that just doesn’t — is not hopeful, and yet I believe a lot of it has to do with the fact that parts of the world breed resentment. And I believe that is due in part to the nature of the governments. I believe a system of government that encourages people to participate, and a government that says, we respond to your will, ends up creating a hopeful alternative to resentment and hatred.”
Dan Froomkin:”Does Bush not realize that most of the violence in Iraq is no longer committed by jihadists, but by rival Muslim factions and Iraqis opposed to occupation? Or is he just pretending ignorance?
“What would he say to the argument that staying the course in Iraq hurts U.S. credibility — and its ability to inspire positive change in the region — more than leaving?
“What would he say to those who argue that the war in Iraq has detracted from our ability to keep the pressure on the real enemy?
“What would he say to the argument that his Middle East policy is creating more resentment and hatred, rather than inspiring people to strive for freedom?
“We don’t know, of course, because he won’t confront his critics.”
From Dan Froomkin, Washington Post:http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html
My question is given that Bush’s political landscape is in the toilet – no, scratch that – in the sewer, what are he and Rove going to come up with to stem this tide?
This shocker from the same Froomkin article cited above:
“And consider this bombshell tossed at the end of that story: “[S]ome outside experts who have recently visited the White House said Bush administration officials were beginning to plan for the possibility that Iraq’s democratically elected government might not survive.
” ‘Senior administration officials have acknowledged to me that they are considering alternatives other than democracy,’ said one military affairs expert who received an Iraq briefing at the White House last month and agreed to speak only on condition of anonymity.
” ‘Everybody in the administration is being quite circumspect,’ the expert said, ‘but you can sense their own concern that this is drifting away from democracy.’”
How can the Iraqi government have any legitimacy, if it only governs with the consent of the U.S.? Unbelievable.
“Islamo Fascist works better than any other term I can think of.”Posted by: Paul F. Rosell | August 17, 2006 at 06:35 PM
That is the best reason I have yet heard to avoid the term!
Probably an attack on American soil. Bush/Rove need to scare Americans, and as they have demonstrated, they’ll wiling to commit any act of violence to further their dark goals.
Islamofascist? How about neocanonazio? Rightoweirdo? Republopuko? Bushcotfmo? WMDowhereo? Coulterobraindeado? Rushodrugo? Roveocrooko? As Paulotrollo says, ” . . . works better than any other term I can think of.”
Paul said: “Islamo Fascist works better than any other term I can think of.”
Well that’s because you don’t do enough thinking. Theocrats would be a closer fit while fascist would be better suited for the neo-cons.
There are some very humorous comments on this thread.I love it.Air Assualt, air assault!!
And Ed says I’m KOOKY!~!
I think that leftists are just mad because shrub stole their word. The left, has for years used the word fascist to slander decent Whites who objected to race-mixing, immigration, affirmative blacktion and other such nonsens and evil. The jihadists drone on about being oppressed and exploited and should be called islamic bolsheviks!
Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!!
…Yeah, “decent whites” like Reinhard Heydrich a.k.a Heydrich the Hangman, and his beloved Pole slaughtering adventures.
As begrudgingly as possible The New York Times gives Hezbollah its due credit for helping the Lebanese get back on the feet. The same fighters which fought the Israelis to a stand still are doing what they’ve always done; care for those in need.
You see Hezbollah is NOT a “terrorist” organisation, as the lying Bush administration has wrongly labeled them. They have always been what they are; those who serve the needs of the poor, both in care and protection from Israeli thugs.
Read for yourselveshttp://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/16/world/middleeast/16hezbollah.html?hp&ex=1155787200&en=cff9f8a0eef01127&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Spare us the flowery crap Ed. Hezbollah put those civilians in harms way by hiding among them.
“You see Hezbollah is NOT a “terrorist” organisation, as the lying Bush administration has wrongly labeled them. They have always been what they are; those who serve the needs of the poor, both in care and protection from Israeli thugs.”
So driving a truck full of explosives into sleeping US Marines and killing 241 of them is serving the needs of the poor.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran.barracks.bombing/
So firing unguided missiles filled with ball bearings into Israeli neighborhood in an effort to kill ans many innocent people as possible are giving care and protection.
I see.
It’s my hope that people like you are the next targets of Hezbollah. Don’t expect any help from me. In your case I will be cheering them on.
I sure manage to pull you “things” out of the woodwork.
Begging the US to hurry-up and ship more cluster bombs is alright with you clowns, now isn’t it, but when the real men take the fight to you, you squeal like the Zionist Pigs you are…..
“I sure manage to pull you “things” out of the woodwork.
Begging the US to hurry-up and ship more cluster bombs is alright with you clowns, now isn’t it, but when the real men take the fight to you, you squeal like the Zionist Pigs you are…..”
Let me ammend what I said.
Not only would I cheer Hezbollah on in targeting you, I would help them light the fuse.
ED-You might want to take another look– Are you pulling them out of the wood work or ???
Are you making a death threat?
“Are you making a death threat?”
Hardly. I just want you to have the same fate at the same hands of the terrorists you love as thousands of other people have before you.
Just happy thoughts …
How ’bout Islamicist nationalism, and christianist nationalism? Other than a slight disagreement over Jesus vs. Mohammad, they are essentially the same thing.And lets stop using the word “terrorist,” since the word has been overapplied to the point of being meaningless. And anyway, as somebody once said, one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. That’s why 50lbs. of high explosive strapped under a man’s coat is “terrorism,” and 500lbs. of the same stuff dropped from an F-16 is “national defense.” Stop the propaganda!
America is now seen as a threat to world peace by its closest neighbours and allies, according to an international survey of public opinion published today that reveals just how far the country’s reputation has fallen among former supporters since the invasion of Iraq.
Carried out as US voters prepare to go to the polls next week in an election dominated by the war, the research also shows that British voters see George Bush as a greater danger to world peace than either the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, or the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Both countries were once cited by the US president as part of an “axis of evil” but it is Mr Bush who now alarms voters in countries with traditionally strong links to the US.
The survey has been carried out by the Guardian in Britain and leading newspapers in Israel (Haaretz), Canada (La Presse and Toronto Star) and Mexico (Reforma), using professional local opinion polling in each country.It exposes high levels of distrust. In Britain, 69% of those questioned say they believe US policy has made the world less safe since 2001, with only 7% thinking action in Iraq and Afghanistan has increased global security.The finding is mirrored in America’s immediate northern and southern neighbours, Canada and Mexico, with 62% of Canadians and 57% of Mexicans saying the world has become more dangerous because of US policy.Even in Israel, which has long looked to America to guarantee national security, support for the US has slipped.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1938434,00.html
Genetic testing on unborn children is, is not ethical
I feel like a fog, not that it matters. I’ve pretty much been doing nothing , but eh. Today was a loss. I haven’t gotten much done for a while.
Blame the parents of a murderer parents for the crime
Help the homeless down the street and persuade them to look for work
An integrated, segregated society is better
Teachers must be paid based on performance
My life’s been bland. I’ve basically been doing nothing to speak of, but what can I say? Not that it matters. Eh. Such is life.
Jed,
I told you so { Something that I said that I would never say }.
{ Ariel Sharon pronounced it: “terrraaararaismm” }.