Jon Stewart made more tasteless jokes at the expense of Kansas’ senior senator Wednesday on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show,” doing a bit about what he called “the stem cell prop comedy of Sam Brownback” on the Senate floor.
After a clip of Brownback pointing between an image of an eagle egg and an eagle and saying, “The egg is the eagle because the eagle comes out of the egg,” Stewart said, “By that logic, Sen. Brownback is a vagina.” After the laughs died down, Stewart added: “I’m going to guess that that sentence has never been uttered.”
After a clip of Brownback with a chart illustrating the life of a girl named Hannah who’d been adopted as an embryo, Stewart suggested Brownback would next pass around her placenta. And after the senator switched to Hannah’s embryo chart, mentioned earlier on this blog, and suggested that one of its depicted embryos was asking, “What, are you going to kill me?” Stewart broke in and said: “I have to say, if you have a talking embryo who is cognizant enough to wonder if you’re going to kill it, I say we don’t do research on those ones. And if we find them and identify them, perhaps one of them will grant us three wishes.”
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Is this guy trying to replace Mother Teressa? Or, maybe he just needs a beard and a turban to reach Nirvana? He’s all over the place!
Ya know? I don’t think any more tax dollars should be spent to promote Kansas. Not as long as the voters in this state keep electing radical zealots like Sam Brownback anyway. For every dollar we DO spend to PROMOTE this state, clowns like Brownback are out taking 10 away by making it a laughingstock.
I would suggset we nominate Jon, but I’m sure he wouldn’t take a pay cut.
Well JR, at least we’re not useless.After this clown, I’d like to have Dole back.
So Stewart has nothing better to do than make fun of someone who is simply pointing out what every biology textbook in America says (that a unique human being is conferred at the point of fertilization). For those of you bashing Brownback, why did it take you until now to realize that basic embryolocical fact?
Stewart is a comedian, his job is to make fun of people.
Steven, you’d make a great ’straight man’ to Stewert.Are you really typing that with a straight face?
Tasteless jokes, Rhonda?
Well, to each their own.
I thought it was pretty damn funny.
The question is not whether embroys are life or not.
The question is when do they become human life that should be protected with rights.
If an embryo does not have a brain (and they don’t), aren’t they the same as a brain dead human?
I personally am against abortion. But at the same time, since abortions will occur whether they are legal or not (just as they did in the ’60’s), I believe the decision should be the woman’s, not the government’s.
First of all, there are many people in this country who believe that the unborn child is indeed worthy of protection and is a human.
We can debate that point, but most people who actually do realize how wrong they are.
Instead, you choose to simply make fun of and brand anyone who thinks that the unborn are worthy of protection as religious zealots.
That is not an argument, just your inability to discuss the issue with any sort of logic or reason.
Nathan–
Try it in English next time.
Thank you.
Art
I wonder how many blastocysts were destroyed to create little Hannah? In vitro is rarely successful with one attempt.
Nathan? Would you call a fertility clinic a place of life? Or would you consider it a facility of genocide?
Stewart is making fun of Brownback because Brownback is a strutting, radical, zealot. That Stewarts show is successful and this particular “gag” got laughs demonstrates that Brownback and those like him are charicatures. Rhonda can call the jokes tasteless. Truth is that it is Brown back that is a tasteless joke.
I’m pro laugh myself!
Nathan,It’s not that you religious fanatics believe that fetuses are worth protecting, it’s that you believe that ONLY fetuses are worthy! NOTHING is absolutely black or white; everything falls into the approximately 9,000 shades of gray that a trained eye can distinguish. That’s why choices have to be made, and made by the people who are affected, not by some religious fanatic.
JR,As long as there are half a million kids in the system without a loving home, and probably more that never got noticed by the system, In Vitro clinics are an exercise in vanity, where people spend ungodly sums to promote their own brand of DNA. If what you want is a child to love, there are plenty to choose from that are already born!
Democrat Senator John Edwards (former Democrat VP candidate) used to “channel” unborn children during his junk-science law suits against obstetricians.I doubt any of you “sophisticated” liberal types ever laughed at him.
Nathan,How ya doin’ bro? Keeping the bad guys heads down, I hope.
As to your reply, I have to agree with the context. However, it is almost impossible to have a decent discussion on the subject because of its volatility. Which is why I intend to stay out of this one.
PS: The 454 rocks!!!
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics4.asp
http://www.stemcellresearch.org/
Keep up the posts, WE. Just one more opportunity for me to do your job for you. You conveniently forget to report any story that contradicts your agenda.
HOLY HELL, I just saw the video of Brokeback and his charts!
He looks as inept as his idiot boss!
The Daily Show has really done a number on this one… if i can find the video, ill post it.
Great, Tony–I’d like to see it.
FOUND IT!!!!!
http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=71913
(you may have to disable you popup blocker to view the video)
The part with Brokeback is about 3/4 the way through it.
Hey, thanks, Tony.
I also found it here–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS8B0gCPxjc
BoyHowdy has the full version there… Its not as funny as the inserts John Stewart does in the comedy central one that I posted…
Brokeback is in rare form in this, and to think, he has been among the names being discussed in ‘08. God help us… oh wait, lets make this politically correct, Oh Higher Being, help us…
That is some good stuff BH.
Oops, I should have said Tony.
just curious if the eagle has written an article yet on the 6 lane superhighway streching from mexico to canada. it will closely follow I35.
HILLSBORO, TEXAS — Leroy Walters has survived many a threat on the farm that has been in his family for 120 years — droughts, hailstorms, tornadoes, grasshopper attacks.
But now he sees a manmade danger on the horizon: a colossal, 600-mile superhighway that will plow clear across the state of Texas
http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2006/07/20/294741-texas-farmers-furious-over-superhighway
Gary,The transportation system in this country could use some major overhauling. It all depends on how much this country wants to wean itself off oil as to what will be the right way to do it. The superhighway may not be a bad thing.
that highway looks kinda cool… id like to see one from Chicago to LA, lets call it route 66.
Stewart 1 (or is it 100)Brownshirt 0
Got a link for that John Edwards crap or is it just another conservative fantasy pretending to be truthiness?
…and if John Edwards does it that makes it ok for brownback?
I call Clinton did it!!!!
Channeling unborn children?WTF is he talking about?
There was that old TV show where a John Edwards supposedly talked to dead relatives of his audience members.
Channeling unborn children?WTF is he talking about?
heheheh tracy!
Do you think our resident political “expert” has his John Edwards’s confused?
heheheheheheheheheh
Dear ksfarmgrrl,
All you need to know:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14143
Hank
I always thought Edwards was a lightweight and a little flakey.
It’s more of that Democratic pandering to the parochialism of the South.
Big help that was . . . he couldn’t even beat Cheney in a debate and he’s a trial lawyer.
The consultants forgot to tell Edwards he has to have something to say before he can say it.
Okay, here’s a Dem willing to critize the Dems.
Let’s hear the same from the Authoritarian Party.
OMG Hank, I love it when you post something like that.
OK, first, the article is written by ann coulter.
Let that sink in for a moment.
A PROVEN Plaigerist, a PROVEN liar, and a PROVEN nut case. I mean, she sent anthrax like packages to the NYT and calls for their building to blow up and to kill them all.
AND, heheh. HANK quotes her as a credible source.
And if that isnt enough to discredit Hank’s “proof” I think this paragraph from the article says it all.
“Is Edwards able to channel any children right before an abortionist’s fork is plunged into their tiny skulls? Why can’t he hear those babies saying, “Let me live! Stop spraying this saline solution all over me!”
Edwards must experience interference in channeling the voices of babies about to be aborted. Their liberal mothers’ hands seem to muffle those voices.”
And, not that facts matter to hank and ann and nathan and Paul, et al, Edwards was talking about a LIVE little girl. A BORN child who could actually speak, not some group of unborn cells.
Yes, please click on Hank’s “proof”. It will convert more to my side than anything I could say. Heheh.
For your convenience:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14143
And I think it is extremely telling that hank thinks this is ALL you need to know.
Woof.
.. and I see that even IF it were true, no one addresses the question as to why that makes what brownback did ok.
hee hee hee.
Still laughing that hank quotes ann coulter as a source when even NATHAN says what she does is comedy and entertainment.
Does that mean we can quote Jon Stewart as a credible source?
heheheheheheheheheheh
But we are amused, and we do encourage you to try again.
I read about the anthrax hoax too, FrmGrrl.
I’ve been calling her Annthrax Coulter for years but I had no idea she would commit a criminal act, one in which the feds seem to have no interest in pursuing.
Go figure.
They still can’t find the people who sent the real anthrax.
Well, I guess this gives us all the right to start sending white powder to who ever we don’t like.
Annthrax Coulter does it . . .
(Heavy sarcasm, don’t commit crimes and threaten people with violence)
“And, not that facts matter to hank and ann and nathan and Paul, et al, Edwards was talking about a LIVE little girl. A BORN child who could actually speak, not some group of unborn cells”
This is a silly thread anyway, but I’ll have to call kfg on an inaccuracy. Edwards actually claimed to be channeling for the unborn baby in his closing in a birth injury case when he made his living suing doctors.
kfg,
To the right ann is a credible source. Along with hannity, orielly, and rush of course. With such intellectual giants on their side it is truely amazing that the Democratic party hasn’t collapsed under the pressure.
But of course the pressure is exerted by the mile high pile of bull shit the twits vomit on a daily basis. And the bull shit from the mindless puppets who hang on their every word like it came directly from the mouth of their god. Is there anything about them that isn’t contemptible?
Yes outie, that is correct. But non the less, I think that speaking about what she might have said before she was born is different for a live human than it is for a clump of cells.
Of course, you and yours will fail to see the distinction.
heheh k.
Cue jeopardy music.
“doot do do do doit do doooo, doot do do do doit, de de de, do do do do do do do, doit, de doot doot doot, doot, doot, (timpani)”
Nope, still cant think of anything about them that is not contemptable.
kfg: Of course that was “just a clump of unborn cells”. In a lot of states, this 9 month gestation “clump of unborn cells” could just be yanked out and run down the disposer, but yet it was worth millions to Mr. Edwards. I think there is irony there.
It is interesting that everyone just calls it a “clump of cells.”
So tell me all you I love the animals people:
What is a Bald Eagles nest full of eggs?
What is a Sea Turtles nest full of eggs?
Are they all “just a clump of cells” too?
So now, unborn humans have less protection and recognition than animals do?
What is the difference?
These are just some questions to get you thinking.
If you really want to start to have a discussion on the validity of life of the unborn then we can start breaking it down too.
Lets take a poll here, all of you who think it is just a clump of cells:
When does human life begin, and what do you base your statement on?
Anser that question, please.
Dear ksfarmgrrl,
I gave you Ann Coulter to amuse you. I even went to the trouble of finding a link that didn’t have her name in it.
Ann’s comments are less acerbic and mean from the right than yours are from the left. She makes up for it by being more accurate and correct.
If you really want to know what a dispicable tort attorney the John Edwards was, GOOGLE him yourself. If you notice, I very seldom ask for a link. I very seldom go to one that is provided. I do my own research.
I still love ya,
Hank
The words “accurate” and “correct” cannot be applied in any way to Ann Coulter.
Dear JR,
As a political commentator, Ann Coulter is one of the funniest, most successful and she is very accurate in her assesment of liberals.
Hank
Dear Hank,
If you really believe that Coulter is “very accurate in her assesment of liberals”, type “Coulter” into the search box at http://www.dailyhowler.com/
Dear cosmos,
Ann Coulter is a very prolific writer. She puts out a massive amount of material. Finding a few discrepancies in her comments does little to discredit the majority of her comments.
But thanks for the link anyway!
Hank
KS Farm GirlCoulter is NOT a plaigerist. Her publisher stand behind her completely.
“A PROVEN Plaigerist, a PROVEN liar, and a PROVEN nut case.”
However, Gore, Biden and Kerry are all verifiably plaigerists.
You wouldn’t think her publisher would stand in front of her, would you?
Paul the NY Post, one of her strongest supporters, submitted her book and a years worth of articles to an anti-plaigerism company. They did this because of the talk and it would have provided the evidence to prove her critics wrong. What they found were a lot of statements taken from other sources without citations to the origional article or author. Too many exerpts to be a coincidence. Passages that were too long to be word for word, or with only 2 or 3 words changed, to be a coincidence. If she had submitted this work as an English 101 paper at WSU she would have received an F for the semester and been kicked out of the class if not the school (under extreme circumstances).
So the question is ‘Should we hold people who are syndicated nationally to a higher standard than we would a college freshman?’ Personally I think we should. If she has/had any self respect she would have held herself to a higher standard. That was not the case, and indeed she is the epitome of what it means to be a neocon. Everyone else is held to a gold standard when she doesn’t measure up to the tin standard.
Thanks, k,
But presenting facts to conservatives is pearls before swine.
They already have their minds made up, and no pesky FACTS are going to come between what they want to believe and reality.
Notice that not one right-winger has criticized her for saying that the 9-ll widows are enjoying that their husbands are dead. Not one right-winger will criticize her for sending white powder (possible anthrax) to the New York Times.
Now substitute “Hillary Clinton” for Ann Coulter in the above two sentences and imagine how they’d react.
They refuse to criticise one of their own no matter how far over the line they go.
Why? Because their over-riding goal is not democracy or freedom or even Americanism. It’s authoritarianism.
They believe somebody should be in charge, and dammit, it better be them.
All their other “values” are subserviant to that one.
And btw, folks, it’s “plagiarism” from the Latin to kidnap.
Saying that she’s a prolific writer therefore she’s entitled to plagiarize (Hank) is like saying that since a truck driver drives a lot, he’s entitled to run over people now and then.
Dear TruMad,
The next time you take your head out of your ass to grab a breath, read my post again.
You won’t find the word entitled of any of its synonyms. You won’t find the word plagerize or any of its synonyms.
English or Latin.
Hank
PLAGIARIZE (Please learn to spell this word correctly if you continue to use it. Thank you.)
It escapes me the reasoning of those that argue the point that they would rather have these embryos that are to be destroyed flushed down the sewer. Then to have at least their destruction possibly mean something, this is NOT about abortion no matter how you would spin it.
Yes there are some childless couple that would be willing to adopt some of these embryos. And as has been pointed out, over adopting the living, breathing, aware children that set in temporary foster homes and social service facilities. You would call killing these embryos for research murder, yet would allow the murder of a living, breath, child’s soul damning they to grow up with out a stable, loving home. Then I could only say to you that it is not only the child’s soul that is endangered. You may call it your will, your opinion, but please let God and the teachings of Jesus Christ out of it. For the Christ of the Bible would damn you as sure as he damn the Pharisees. For you are one in the same, your pride is your God not the Lord of Heaven.
No, I can not understand the logic or reasoning of those that think that Bush’s veto was a victory.You have saved no one, not the embryos, not those that might have had a better life because of the research, not those that can not walk or breath or stop their damnable shaking. You would stand in the way of all this, now is your pride so valuable? But hey, you can puff out your chest and shout you are doing God’s will.
Dear Hank,”Finding a few discrepancies in her comments does little to discredit the majority of her comments.”
So you believe she’s still “very accurate” if her ‘Slander’ book has errors on pages 1, 2, Katie Couric, Schlafly, and the final page?http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh072302.shtml“But frankly, we haven’t checked any part of this book without encountering instant problems.”—I’d provide other sources, but they probably wouldn’t change your mind either.My philosophy: Fool me once, shame on you — fool me twice, shame on me.You can consider her “accurate” if you want to… but I don’t.
Dear RD,
Thanks for the correction!
I notice that you seldom point out spelling errors in the liberal posts.
Is that because you generally have a problem responding to the substance of a conservative’s post, or are you just a hypocrite?
Hank
Dear cosmos,
She’s a political pundit. A very sucessful political pundit. Her columns and books amuse me. Generally she is accurate in her assesments of liberals and their motivation.
She’s funny. I like her. I can’t believe you are so dense that you miss the point of her writing by nitpicking. Maybe, just maybe, finding fault with her veracity in a small way allows you to ignore the larger painful truth.
Hank
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663173/posts
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/10/coulter.plagerism.ap/index.html
Coulter does her own work. You liberals are funny. Three of your Presidential candidates plagerized all the time, but you are bagging on Coulter.Again, Gore, Kerry and Biden are definately known for stealing the creative work of others, or lying in print.
Hank I think it started by TruMad pointing out MY spelling mistake. Sit back, smoke a cigar, have a drink, listen to some soft music, AND CHILL! To those who pointed out my bad spelling, thank you.
Yes cosmos do give up. To Hank the fact that Coulter is popular=Coulter is accurate and credible. But Ann is only popular OR credible with nuts like her. I can ASSURE you that Mr. Price and also proll Paul fit that description to the point that they should consider squirrel insurance!
What is that old quote? Something about generally regarding as true that that we wish to be? I need to go find that. It fits conservatives to a t.
Paul, care to give us a link to where you found that Gore, Kerry, and Biden plagairized? This is the first I have heard of it.
Dear JR,
I consider it a true compliment to be considered a “nut like her”! If only I had her money!
Hank
Dear Hank,I’m “nitpicking”? No, I try to verify whether a person’s opinions are supported by facts. Coulter’s seem to be based on falsehoods — her “painful truth” isn’t true.You seem to value money more than accuracy.
Paul, thanks for CNN link — mentions Rawstory and Rude Pundit, found examples of her plagiarism there.
JR, you’re right, I should give up. And the quote fits.
Ya know, this thread has got WAY off topic. I wonder why? Could it have been just an accident? Or was it mis-directed?Doesn’t matter I guess. Clearly the easing of restrictions on stem cell research and how silly zealots like Sam Brownback and george bush fought and ultimately stopped that is not something the right is comfortable discussing. One can little blame them! Tough to defend an indefensible AND unpopular stand!
Thing is? It’s also an inexplicable stand. Not picking on Nathan here, he just happens to be the person I asked about fertility clinics. See? Little Hannah, the girl who drew Brownbacks picture, was manufactured in one. (Cold word I know. I didn’t want to use “create”. It has a divine implication that I at least HOPE the Doctors who put little Hannah together do not ascribe themselves!) Yes little Hannah was made by men in a labratory. But see? Probably many similarly manufactured blastocysts were implanted in Hannahs mother before little Hannah was succesfully implanted in her mothers uterus. Were these failed attempts each mourned? Did each have a name? I’m guessing no.
So Nathan I have to ask again. Is an Invitro fertlization clinic a place of life or a place of death? Without the use of this technology, little Hannah would not be with us. In fact, she never would have been manufactured. So certainly she owes her very existence to a procedure a few might call “un natural”.
But now we are getting down to the heart of the matter. No one opposes invitro fertilization to the degree of making it a crusade. At least not here or yet.
Now I have further to go. But in fairness, I want to give anyone who opposes the procedure that invented little Hannah and so many other childen a chance to speak up. If there is anyone who calls invitro fertilization morally wrong, now is your chance.Nathan? Hank? Outlander?
Anyone?—–
Dear cosmos,
I take it back, I now believe you are dense. You seem to actually miss the point of Ann Coulter’s work.
Hank
Dear JR,
What is the topic of this thread? I believe that Rhonda was commenting on the tasteless jokes of Jon Stewart. I like Jon Stewart. He’s clever, funny and a pretty good political pundit. Almost as good as Ann Coulter, I did think his book sucked though.
When he is poking fun at subjects or people near and dear to my heart I wince a little but I suck it up and don’t complain. However, when he made Al Gore look like a pompous idiot I enjoyed it.
You seem to want to turn this into a deep bio-ethics philosophy discussion about life religion and rather or not test tube babies deserve a belly button.
I think you are a borderline idiot most of the time, but after wading through your rambling mischaracterizations of the whole invitro fertiliztion process, I did find a valid question at the end.
I believe that the invitro fertilzation clinics are a place of hope and life.
Thanks for asking.
Hank
Cosmos?
Cool nic by the way.
Cosmos you are new here. Hank Price has now called you “dense”.
You have just joined a very large crowd of people who are less enlightened than Hank! In fact it includes just about EVERYONE on the blog! Welcome aboard!
Calling others dense or dumb or stupid or insert disparaging remark here is what Hank does when he is cornered and has nothing better to post.
Consider! Look at that well thought out post of mine just above. Hank stayed far away from that. No he went hunting for you!
You have just completed “dealing with the Prices” 101
Congratulations!
Dear cosmos,
JR has described me rather accurately. I am enlightened. Not on all subjects, but I do pride myself in having the ability to add a little sanity to the few threads I post on.
Now, let me clear up a little confusion that must be going through your mind right now; JR is on webTV. He is trying to contribute to a 21st century BLOG using 20th century technology. that’s why some of his posts are confusing or untimely.
That is why his last post makes very little sense. I realize that many of his posts make very little sense and they all can’t be blamed on his internet access limitations. Most are senseless because of more serious limitations.
Hank
Gentle people,
I have an idea that should appeal to all of the bleeding heart liberals. Since JR is rather amusing to liberals and conservatives alike; why don’t we all chip in and buy him a computer? I have a friend in the business and we could get him a very decent PC for around $400.00. I’ll donate 5% of the total cost.
You can let me know through a private email or on the BLOG if you are willing to contribute. I’ll let you know if we get enough takers to bring JR into the 21st century.
Since all of the conservatives here are rich rebublicans and can figure out a way to write the contribution off their taxes and actually come out ahead in the long run I’m sure they will donate a little.
We’ll have a big presentation at the next BLOG get together. We’ll even have pizza so JR will come!
Hank
Hank,
How often do I point out spelling mistakes? Hourly? Daily? Weekly? When?
Paul thrilled us all with his journalism degree in several poorly spelled and badly grammatical posts. And I didn’t even name him when I initially pointed it out. I merely mentioned that our educational system is producing poor students when it comes to our language.
I typed PLAGIARISM today because Paul’s spelling of it had been corrected by me and by others. One on this thread, alone. (By the way, he has now spelled it 3 different ways, one of which was right–which he pointed out.) You might also notice that others misspelled it, also, so how do you know it was directed at Paul only? It wasn’t.
You know, if teachers would actually mark incorrect spelling and grammar on papers these days, most people would be much better at both. They don’t, however, do that. More’s the pity.
Yes, liberals as well as conservatives have fallen behind when it comes to spelling and grammar, but I do see the worst of it coming from the right. That’s a fact.
I hold my family to an even higher standard. My newest son-in-law has atrocious grammar, and even my daughter has started correcting him. His poor grammar makes him appear poorly educated, and he isn’t “dumb.”
Dear RD,
I apologize. I did thank you for the correction, but it was obvious from the rest of my reply that being corrected annoyed me.
However, I must admit, I was more annoyed by my error than by your correction.
Believe it or not, I am a pretty good writer. I am also a pretty good editor. Part of my job is editing medical reports. Mostly for grammer and content, not spelling. The doctor I work for uses a spell checker so that catches most of the errors, not all. I have also been a tech writer on several occasions in the past. I have a lot of experience writing military and aviation tech manuals.
When I contribute to this BLOG I don’t always take the time to proof my post. Some of my mistakes are typos. In my youth I had a hearing problem. I would get drunk and when people told me to shut up sometimes I thought they said stand up. As a result I have broken several of the bones in my right hand (merely defending myself I might add, I never started a fight) (well there was that time in Spain!) (and another time in Puerto Rico) (then that time in…hell, maybe some of them were my fault!)
As a relult, my right hand doesn’t type as good as my left hand. But, I’m a terrible speller and when I am doing recreational writing (like contributing to this BLOG) I don’t take the care I should.
I’m sorry you feel the need to correct me. I’ll try to do better.
Hank
PS Ireally don’t think you are a hypocrite. I apologize for that remark also.
Hank
Dear Hank,
I 100% get the point of Coulter’s work — it’s to use falsehoods to make hateful and inaccurate attacks. Correct?At least Jon Stewart bases most of his material on facts — Brownback did use props.You can get more news (and more accurately) on Stewart’s comedy show than from many news shows.
JR, thanks for the welcome. And you made good, valid points about the clinics, and issue.
Clarification here. My 7:31 crossed Hanks 7:26.
No technology problem there. I just think out my posts a little better than Hank does his!
Hank! I am so pleased that you regard IVF clinics favorably! Difficult to square that position with protecting the “lives” of the unborn. But I shall let it go.
The topic of the thread was indeed Jon Stewart and his spoof on the loony toon Brownback. Of course, the underlying issue WAS stem cell research. Thanks for your cursory attempt to stay on topic!
Now of COURSE Hank calls my posts “senseless”! I have NEVER agreed with him! It’s ok. There are LOTS of “senseless” people here. I frequently find myself in the most deightfully “senseless” company. I do feel for Hank at times. SO smart and all alone and all.
Now on one thing, Hank is correct. (Even most stopped clocks are right twice a day. Hank aint quite a digital.) I am using webtv.Now this does limit my posts in a way. I cannot post links.But of course this causes me to post carefully. I cannot stick a link to my words. I’ve rarely been found “not credible”.And though I do not consider myself incredible, I do pretty well! Links should be used judiciously though. Hank still has a little trouble with that. See? links are supposed to lend credibility to a posters own words and ideas. Not be the source AND confirmation of the posters own strange views.
And THANK YOU for you KIND call on my behalf Hank! Please don’t trouble yourself or the other bloggers on my behalf though. I’ve already been offered a computer from some friends and fellow bloggers. Good to have friends among the bloggers. I’ll take them up on that very shortly. I do so appreciate that some who are better off than me technologically and financially are willing to do me a good turn. Nice folks those liberals!
And so Hank, I’ll be “rescued” to the 21st century soon. I’ll come looking for you! Do I look in the 19th or 18th century?
Regards,
Jay
Hank,
We all make typos. I do try to proofread my posts, but I’ve definitely had my share of typos.
Kudos on your tech writing. I almost had a chance to do that, but it didn’t pan out. C’est la vie!
Dear RD,
I had the great pleasure of writing tech manuals on subjects I knew very little about. Great fun.
Ask me about writing to Mil-Specs sometime, very interesting.
Hank
Dear Jay,
No need to look for me, just tell me when, I know where you’re at.
I suspect I know who’s helping you with your tech upgrade, I’m still willing to help. They can contact me. I have some pretty good sources.
One of the things that I can do with my PC that you probably can’t do with webTV is open up the BLOG in two differen windows. That way I can prepare a post in one and then check the other to ensure my words of wit are still timely. I do that freguently at work.
Sometimes when I’m busy it might take a couple of hours to complete a rather witty short post. Lots of time its no longer relevant and I just delete it after checking.
Hank
PS I very seldom find you credible. Amusing, but not credible.
Hank- I use some MIL Specs– snooooooooooooooze!
Dear cosmos,
No. You completely miss the point of her work. I suspect you are neither smart enough to appreciate her assesment of liberals in politics nor witty enough to appreciate her humor.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree.
Hank
Dear Hank,
All of Coulter’s attacks I’ve seen were based on falsehoods, and I do NOT find that tactic humorous. That “humor” does not require wittiness, smarts, or talent… just hatred, deceptions, and lies.
Dear cosmos,
You are either a fool or a liar. First of all most of her work is political satire, not ‘attacks’.
I seriously doubt that you have read very many of her columns. I doubt that you can intelligently discuss an of her recent political comments.
In fact, your last post demonstrates the limited depth of your knowledge about her work. It is nothing more than a general diatribe devoid of any substance worth discussing.
Get smarter, be specific, and we’ll talk. Pick one of her columns that you think demonstrates your assertion that her “attacks . . . based on falsehoods” and her humor is based on “just hatred, deceptions, and lies.” and we can have a meaningful debate.
Hank
“You won’t find the word entitled of any of its synonyms. You won’t find the word plagerize or any of its synonyms.”
Uh Hank . . . I can see why you like Bush. You both make English “your bitch,” to hell with bothering to make sense.
“The word entitled of any of its synonyms.” It sounds like English that has been translated to Japanese and then to German and back to English again . . .
Actually, I was commenting on everybody misspelling “plagiarism,” which thankfully RD caught.
Well SINCE we are off topic let’s stay there.
Hank? You are familiar with Coulter yes?
I need you to find something for me.
Now I have mentioned in posts before about how Annie melted down on the O’reilly factor. The occasion was her dismissal from USA Todays coverage of the Dem. convention in 2004.
See? Annie was dismissed from this nation wide exposure paper because of her far right wing rants that she submitted as reports.
Now what I am looking for is a link to her meltdown on the O’Reilly factor just after USA Today canned her. Now I heard it that day on O’Reilly.
I’ve also emailed her website and asked her for the audio. She didn’t respond.Well anywho, what happened is that Annie was reduced to snivelling tears.
“They KNOW who I am…sob sob….They know how I write!. They know who Ann Coulter is!……waaaaah sob…..this is so unfair!…..I am who I am!…….sob……..waaaaah”
Well if anything Hank I’d say that a transcript of that would prove that Coulter is human at least. Can you find it for me?
“Get smarter, be specific, and we’ll talk.”
Okay, brother, you asked for it–
“If you don’t hate Bill Clinton and the people who labored to keep him in office, you don’t love your country.”
“Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole.”
“In this recurring nightmare of a presidency [the Clinton administration], we have a national debate about whether he ‘did it,’ even though all sentient people know he did. Otherwise there would be debates only about whether to impeach or assassinate.”
“I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning. … They’re a major threat. I just think it would be fun to nuke them and have it be a warning to the rest of the world.”
“I think [calling Clinton a scumbag] is factually correct. … I don’t think you could win a slander suit on that. Truth is a defense.”
“When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.”
“There are no good Democrats.”
“I take the Biblical idea. God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees God says, ‘Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It’s yours.’”
“I think, on the basis of the recent Supreme Court ruling that we can’t execute the retarded, American journalists commit mass murder without facing the ultimate penalty. I think they are retarded.”
“My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building.”
“Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America’s self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.”
“Even if corners were cut, [Iran-Contra] was a brilliant scheme. There is no possibility that anyone in any Democratic administration would have gone to such lengths to fund anti-Communist forces. When Democrats scheme from the White House, it’s to cover up the President’s affair with an intern. When Republicans scheme, it’s to support embattled anti-Communist freedom fighters sold out by the Democrats.”
“[Canadians] better hope the United States doesn’t roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.”
“A central component of liberal hate speech is to make paranoid accusations based on their own neurotic impulses, such as calling Republicans angry, hate-filled, and mean.”
“[Liberals] are always accusing us of repressing their speech. I say let’s do it. Let’s repress them. … Frankly, I’m not a big fan of the First Amendment.”
“I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East, and sending liberals to Guantanamo.”
She called a group of New Jersey widows whose husbands perished in the World Trade Center “the witches of Eastbrooke” who act “as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them. I’ve never seen people enjoying their husbands’ deaths so much.”
“So glad to hear that The New York Times got my letter [full of corn starch as mock anthrax] and that your friend at the Times thinks I’m funny. Good luck in journalism and please send me your home address so we can stay in touch, too.”
“We should invade their countries [Muslim countries in the MidEast], kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.”
“Congress could pass a law tomorrow requiring that all aliens from Arabic countries leave….We should require passports to fly domestically. Passports can be forged, but they can also be checked with the home country in case of any suspicious-looking swarthy males.” This time Lowry spiked her column. Coulter responded by calling Lowry and his staff censorious “girly boys.”
“[Clinton] masturbates in the sinks.”—Rivera Live 8/2/99
The “backbone of the Democratic Party” is a “typical fat, implacable welfare recipient”—syndicated column 10/29/99
To a disabled Vietnam vet: “People like you caused us to lose that war.”—MSNBC
“Women like Pamela Harriman and Patricia Duff are basically Anna Nicole Smith from the waist down. Let’s just call it for what it is. They’re whores.”—Salon.com 11/16/00
Juan Gonzales is “Cuba’s answer to Joey Buttafuoco,” a “miscreant,” “sperm-donor,” and a “poor man’s Hugh Hefner.”—Rivera Live 5/1/00
On Princess Diana’s death: “Her children knew she’s sleeping with all these men. That just seems to me, it’s the definition of ‘not a good mother.’ … Is everyone just saying here that it’s okay to ostentatiously have premarital sex in front of your children?”…”[Diana is] an ordinary and pathetic and confessional – I’ve never had bulimia! I’ve never had an affair! I’ve never had a divorce! So I don’t think she’s better than I am.”—MSNBC 9/12/97
“I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote.”—Hannity & Colmes, 8/17/99
“I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote.”—Politically Incorrect, 2/26/01
“We’re now at the point that it’s beyond whether or not this guy is a horny hick. I really think it’s a question of his mental stability. He really could be a lunatic. I think it is a rational question for Americans to ask whether their president is insane.”—Equal Time
“It’s enough [to be impeached] for the president to be a pervert.”—The Case Against Bill Clinton, Coulter’s 1998 book.
“Clinton is in love with the erect penis.”—This Evening with Judith Regan, Fox News Channel 2/6/00
“I think we had enough laws about the turn-of-the-century. We don’t need any more.” Asked how far back would she go to repeal laws, she replied, “Well, before the New Deal…[The Emancipation Proclamation] would be a good start.”—Politically Incorrect 5/7/97
“If they have the one innocent person who has ever to be put to death this century out of over 7,000, you probably will get a good movie deal out of it.”—MSNBC 7/27/97
“The presumption of innocence only means you don’t go right to jail.”—Hannity & Colmes 8/24/01
“I have to say I’m all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the ‘hood to be flogged publicly.”—MSNBC 3/22/97
“Originally, I was the only female with long blonde hair. Now, they all have long blonde hair.”—CapitolHillBlue.com 6/6/00
“I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t.”—TV Guide 8/97
“Let’s say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I’m not married.”—Rivera Live 6/7/00
“Anorexics never have boyfriends. … That’s one way to know you don’t have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend.”—Politically Incorrect 7/21/97
“I think [Whitewater]’s going to prevent the First Lady from running for Senate.”—Rivera Live 3/12/99
“My track record is pretty good on predictions.”—Rivera Live 12/8/98
“The thing I like about Bush is I think he hates liberals.”—Washington Post 8/1/00
On Rep. Christopher Shays (d-CT) in deciding whether to run against him as a Libertarian candidate: “I really want to hurt him. I want him to feel pain.”—Hartford Courant 6/25/99
“The swing voters—I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don’t have set philosophical principles. You’re either a liberal or you’re a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster. “—Beyond the News, Fox News Channel, 6/4/00
“The good part of being a Democrat is that you can commit crimes, sell out your base, bomb foreigners, and rape women, and the Democratic faithful will still think you’re the greatest.”
“Indeed, an attack on America by fanatical Muslims had finally provided liberals with a religion they could respect.”
“Liberals hate America, they hate ‘flag-wavers’, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam (post 9/11). Even terrorists don’t hate America like liberals do.”
“My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that’s because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism.”—MSNBC 2/8/97
“You want to be careful not to become just a blowhard.”—Washington Post 10/16/98
*****
Ann Coulter proves P.T. Barnum’s saying that “there’s a sucker born every minute,” or the same idea put more thoughtfully by H. L. Menken that “no one ever got rich by over-estimating the mind of the American public.”
Dear Hank, (after you’ve responded to JR and TruMad)
“Satire” ridicules vices, follies, etc that ACTUALLY happened, like Jon Stewart (this thread) did.
You said: “I suspect you are neither smart enough to appreciate her assesment of liberals in politics nor witty enough to appreciate her humor.”
Please use your “smarts” and “wits” to explain her “satire humor” on the last page of ‘Slander’. See the link I gave earlier, http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh072302.shtml
Her recent columns? As I posted earlier, try to “fool me once…”
I don’t, personally, consider Coulter a satirist. Is that what she calls herself? She doesn’t present herself as one. I guess I’ve missed her humor.
And I’m surprised that Hank and Nathan, particularly, abide her use of foul language. But each to his own opinion, I guess.
Tasteless?
Rhonda you have got to be kidding?
No one has mastered tasteless more than your party. It’s so bad now that it is sport for Republicans. From the Whitehouse to the media. I wouldn’t even no where to begin.For every Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh type out there making death threats and spewing and writing vile.
For every right wing talking head like Glenn Beck and Bill Bennett, spewing racism, and every crack pot, religious pshcyo like Pat Robertson saying horrible insensitive things.
From Presidential backrubs, lying to start wars, pulling out of Kyoto, invading a country for no reason and letting the one that attacked us off scott free because they are buddies…maybe a bit tasteless too.
And hunting trips on Valentine weekend with someone that isn’t your wife… that go unquestioned. Saying you were not drinking when you were after shooting someone, when your party is responsible for jailing thousands around the country for the very same…the height of tasteless…
What about the Starr report. Chapter after chapter of vile meant only to embarass and humiliate. Tasteless.
Denying that there is a civil war in Iraq when 2500 American Kids have been slaughtered and 14,000 Iraq civilians have been murdered in just one year.And doing so just for political gain. The ultimate in tasteless.
Denying that the conflict between Israel and Lebanon is not war when people are being slaugtered and the only reason the denial is occuring is again…for political gain? Tasteless.
Phony terror threats to keep Americans scared? Tasteless.
Swiftboating John Kerry was dishonest and tasteless.
Endorsing George W Bush for President, even after he couldn’t put together a coherent sentence in any of the debates. Tasteless.
Decades of Washington decadance while congress and the senate have voted time after time to block the minimum wage increase. Yet, while they continue to receive raises, thousands of kids in Kansas are being raised in poverty because of men like Brownback. Heartless and Tasteless.
What about hurricane Katrina. As thousands were drowning. Children and elderly were dying because they couldn’t get a bottle of water. Yet the entire Bush administration did nothing. Remember Condi was buying shoes at Feragamo..and taking in a Broadway Show. Rumsfeld was at a baseball game, Bush on vacation, Cheney was shopping for a new home. Are you kidding Rhonda. Do you know tasteless?
What about Senator Pat Roberts the so called straight talk senator from Kansas. He has become the most partisan politcal hack. Protecting Bush every step of the way from any investigation. He should hold his head in shame. As thousands are dying, world war 3 looming, world is in crisis, because of disastrous leadership, noone in the Bush administration has been held accountable for their lies. No one. Can you imagine if a Democrat had lead us to the mess we are in today. Can you imagine the pious crap we would be hearing from Pat Roberts? Instead he protects Bush from any investigation, any accounabilty. Americans deserve better. Our troops deserve better. But Roberts continually gets away with turning his back on everyone but Bush.
Remember the Republican convention in New York? Your party used the terrorist attacks for political gain. Can you get more tasteless?
Well maybe. At that same convention, you could have party leaders, chickenhawk after chickenhawk mock John Kerry and name call… even the nerve to call him a “girle man”.
What about the Clinton Impeachment. Years spent investigating Clinton for Whitewater. A real estate deal from the seventies, that the Clintons lost 40,000 dollars. It turned into a witchhunt. And the men doing the withhunt were all wife cheats. After 40 millions dollars they turned up a private consensual affair. Then brought the women in front of the world. In front of all of the men in Congress for nothing more than a smear campaigne. How can you get more tasteless.
Your party. The ones that have spent decades intimidating and making fun of liberals. Name calling and on and on. So for you to get all pompous, offended and moral about Brownback having been called a vagina. Rhonda, please. John Stewart is a comedian.
Brownback has had his moments of tasteless. Everyone recalls the 96 push poll when his campaign let out in the final week that Jill Docking was jewish. Then the audacity to apologize for it years later when it served him politically.
What about the Koch money that illegally financed his way to Washington.
But the ultimate in Brownback tasteless was his performance the other day. On the day he gave his first grade presentation the world was in chaos. Children around the world dying from starvation, disease, thousands of children melting in sweltering heat in countries surrounded by war, hiding in bomb shelters. The world is in crisis mode and Brownback was on some other planet. It was offensive. And it made once again our state look foolish.
Just when you think the Republicans can’t possibly pull of yet another my pet goat moment, they succeed. Brownbacks speech was so bizarre and so disgraceful, and so inappropriate for all of the people in the world right now in need. In Kansas, the US around the Globe. The Brownback moment was symbolic of years of stupidity, and arrogance. Symbolic of years of bad republican leadership. And most of all symbolic of tasteless that has been coming from your side for decades.
Touche!
Coulter did make one funny remark, the one about her looks that embolden her to say things men won’t.
RD,
I don’t abide her foul language. What foul language are you talking about?
I read her articles and to the best of my knowledge I don’t recall an obsessive use of bad words or hardly any use of them at all.
Nathan,
I admit to never having read her books. I don’t watch right-wing TV. Don’t watch much TV, period. I’ve seen her interviewed on one show that is leftist, though not necessarily dem. What I heard, and I can’t quote directly, made me cringe. Perhaps it was the context of her words more than the words themselves. Could be my mind saw it as foul. If so, I shouldn’t have used the words I used to describe her.
Still, I haven’t found her humorous, in the least. But I suppose that’s why there’s diversity. If there weren’t, we’d all be bored to tears.
Standing ovation for cin!
K
Try these links, Gore Kerry and Biden are known liars and plagiarists.Many of your Democrat heroes can be found on the index of plagiarists, including Al Gore and Joe Biden, but Coulter is not listed:
http://www.famousplagiarists.com/indexnames.htm
You might also want to look at John Kerry’s plagerism:
http://www.nysun.com/article/3775
I would also remind you that John Kerry wrote a book in which he claimed to have gone to Cambodia. Kerry has NEVER been in Cambodia in his life!Kerry also asked men who had never been in Vietnam to claim that they were witnesses to “attrocities” in Vietnam, when Kerry was working with Jane Fonda to undercut our troops. This false testimony was also in Gore’s book.There is plenty of information on all of these guys, you just dont want to look.
By the way, what happens when an “in-vitro” human embryo is allowed to develop into a “fetus”? — and what will it take for you folks to then recognize that “fetus” as a human being without an actual birth ??Would slavery and other sins of the past be legal again for this “non-person”??My question is not that far-fetched.The technology to raise a human from the fertilized egg forward, without a womb, is not that far off.You liberals will leave us with no rules at all to stop this from happening.
Paul?
That last from you does not make much sense.
It is the right that is trying to confirm personhood on fetuses as early in their development as possible. Some even take it back to the zygote…..the moment of conception. Whether that conception is natural or manufactured. YOU know, like we are talking about here.
Now to be TRULY pro life by their own standards, the right would EMBRACE and develop the technology you seem to fear. Namely the ability to make a baby independent of a woman carrying it to term.
Now that WOULD be pro life. A woman who does not want to carry to term relieved of the fetus and that fetus raised and brought to term through technology by those who demand that for all conceptions.
Hey Paul!
The logic (sic) of the attack on Gore at your link, famousplagiarists, says you 100% believe that Newt Gingrich is also a “liar” for defending Gore’s claim re his Internet work. http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh120302.shtml
So dazzle us Paul! Explain WHY Gore a “liar” and “plagiarist” because of the bogus RNC/media attacks on him, such as ‘Love Story’. http://www.dailyhowler.com/h052500_1.shtml
Nathan,
The eagle egg (or turtle egg for that matter) argument is invalid. The reason those animals are protected and the human animal is not, is because they are endangered. That means there aren’t too many of them around. Last time I checked, there are plenty of humans around. So, if you don’t like abortion, that’s fine. But don’t use lame, idiotic arguments like comparing humans to eagle embryos as Brownback did.
By the way, how many of you right-to-lifers out there are also in favor of the death penalty and/or have had a pet put to sleep. Is that not life also. Oh, wait, I know…that’s life, but not human life. Our particular collection of cells is much more important than a dog or cat right? Let’s put a dog and a human in front of a speeding car. Do you think the car can distinguish between human life and dog life? No, it kills both with equal disregard.
There is far too much debate about this issue and it is a total waste of time. If both sides would spend more time considering the quality of life of those babies who are born, the world would be a better place.
“I’ve never had an affair! I’ve never had a divorce!”
“Let’s say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I’m not married.”
From comments I have heard Coulter make, in addition to an affair or divorce she also hasn’t had a date. That makes the second comment a fantasy.
“All of the famous plagiarists featured in this webspace remain “alleged plagiarists”, the documented allegations having been made by others in the professional literature and/or the popular media.”
Paul notice it says “alleged plagiarist”. I will have to do some looking but it looks like the dirt on Biden may have some merit. The comments on Gore are BS. All congressmen/women take credit for things they personnaly haven’t done. They sit in their chair and do photo ops all day and then take credit for things more competent people do. The fact is that while Gore didn’t ‘invent’ the internet he was one of the major forces in expanding it and opening it up for public use. He didn’t plagiarize anything. And Kerry wasn’t listed other than as a side note under Biden.
Have any crediable sources for you claims?
Doh!! That should be ‘your’ claims.
Ann Coulter was a hottie when she was in her 20’s. Look at her pix today. Oops, time has not been kind.
On another issue, how many of you weren’t once blastocysts? Go ahead and raise your hands.
“Ann Coulter was a hottie when she was in her 20’s.” -HL
Yea right. Do you really think you are going to convince me her feet and adams apple were smaller and she knew when to shut up when she was in her 20’s? I’m thinking somebody needs to remove the beer goggles, hmmm……
RDI never really “bragged” about anything, including my journalism degree. In fact, I only came forth with that info because some of you didn’t think I was “smart” enough to come up with my posts on my own.By the way, you make your own share of mistakes pal.
JRYou ask a good question.In the interest of brevity I kept my post a bit too short.My concern about growing these Embryos and then Fetuses to full term is this:Unless Congress or the Supreme Court does something to change the law (or actually, to return Constitutional sanity to the law)These Embryos CANT be considered Human without the act of birth.We are heading for a “brave new world” in which grown “Humans” will have no real rights and can be harvested for spare parts.Tell me what might prevent that nightmare, say, 20 or 30 years from now?Our current law sure would not be prepared for a “human” brought fully to term, outside the womb.No birth.No birthday.No birth certificate.
Paul, I think you watch too many movies.
Yeah k.
Hey Paul? Just what are you spinning er driving at? Come on spit it out! Are you against invitro fertilization?
Several years ago, Ann was on Bill Maher with Jerry Foulwell and Marilyn Manson. Marilyn Manson managed to come across as the voice of pure reason compared with that pair!
Paul,As one you’d probably consider a flaming liberal, I posted on another thread that I considered in vitro as an exercise in vanity, where couples spend an ungodly amount to propagate thir own brand of DNA, and if they wanted a child to love and raise, there are plenty in the foster-care system that would give anything for a loving home.I also said that until those kids are all adopted, you’ve got no right to bitch about abortion!That liberal enough for you?