Selective respect for legality on fireworks

Seeing all the bombs illegally bursting in air over Wichita Tuesday night — anything that shoots higher than 6 feet is unlawful in the city limits — I wondered if those visibly flouting local ordinances included any of the many folks who’ve raged recently against those who flout immigration laws. What part of “illegal” don’t they understand? Or does the meaning of “illegal” depend on the issue?
Posted by Rhonda Holman

32 Comments

  1. Hank Price
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Ooh, Ooh, Pick me!

    Nathan and I shot off about $300 of Oklahoma fireworks last night. Although we’re not in town, they were illegal. Pretty much a pattern in our neighborhood!

    Interesting that you would tie the celebration of the signing of the Declaration of Independence to illegal immigration. On one hand we are celebrating the signing of a document by our founding fathers that has become the gold standard of rebellion against authority.

    On the other, you call illegals coming to this country to work, not migrate, immigrants. If they had the guts to fight for their rights like our forefathers did, they could make a very good life for themselves in Mexico.

    No, my dear Rhonda, the celebration of the Fourth was even more sweeter for me knowing that I was breaking a few arbitrary laws attempting to protect me from myself.

    Next year when Nathan is home from Iraq I’ll invite the BLOGers out for the celebration! (No ‘city’ fireworks allowed!)

    Hank

  2. Julie
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    I don’t live in Wichita (or Sedgwick county for that matter) so I had the opportunity to shoot off the ‘legal’ good stuff. My family went to our little city park, set off a few of the milder fireworks and sparklers (the 3 year old is a pyro in training just like her big brother and daddy) and watched our neighbors set off the good stuff followed by a pretty impressive city fireworks display. All in all, a fun evening.I understand the need for banning certain fireworks in some areas (ie bottle rockets) but I don’t see the need for over-protecting us from roman candles.

    Hank – can’t wait for next years show.

  3. Hank Price
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Dear Julie,

    If we get too many lawbreakers or their ‘enablers’ we’ll have it at the clubhouse again (fireworks on the beach). With just a few observers can watch it on the screened in porch with Momma.

    I’m anxoius to meet the “pyro in training”! If we have enough little ones we can have a ‘city’ fireworks section!

    Hank

  4. Hank Price
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    I’ve also got a floating dock in the works. It would be a perfect place to watch the neighborhood lawbreakers if it is done in time.

    Hank

  5. raptor
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    When the illegals are setting off illegal fireworks, do the two acts cancel each other out? (just kidding!)

    Gunshots and fireworks last night around my house until 3AM…and the police do not have enough people to handle it. Next year I am either sleeping in the basement or taking the 5th of July off…

  6. TRACY
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    Acetylene bombs don’t usually jump very high, but man are they loud and dangerous!!Sure to bring the police out where they will find nothing left for evidence.

  7. Jed
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    I used to live in a Wichita neighborhood where the tradition on July 4th and New Years was to take the family piece out in the front yard and shoot off as many rounds in the air as they had on hand. I wore an old WWI helmet on those days! Hell, if we’d had that kind of firepower in Nam…….!

  8. Tony
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    I live in Goddard so all of the fun stuff is legal there. Heck, even if they weren’t legal, I’m sure the police there wouldn’t care.

    They only gave a $50 ticket to the kid who about burned down his house with bottle rockets…

    Its not as much a question of legality as it is an inconvenience. Police aren’t out looking for these, like someone said earlier, there are not enough police to police the problem. They should just legalize them and deal with the problems and make the tax money.

    That way Hank and Nathan would stay in Wichita and spend their money in Wichita. Simple huh? You figure $300 in fireworks, $100 in beer, and than $50 in pizza, that’s $450 total, that’s about $35 in sales Taxes? With about $4.5 of that going to the Arena!

  9. Posted July 5, 2006 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Actually Tony,

    We live SW of Goddard. The stuff we were shooting off isn’t legal anywhere in Kansas!

    No beer, no pizza, Momma did make us a blackberry cobler!

    Hank

  10. TRACY
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Many years ago, an old friend of mine procured some ’simulated artillery fire’ rounds.Great fun, and sure to raise an eyebrow!

    Hank you better watch it, the ATF will be after you for committing Hanky-panky.

  11. heartlander
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 2:48 pm | Permalink

    Well, obviously you all didn’t blow your fingers off yesterday, otherwise you wouldn’t be blogging. *grin*

  12. Posted July 5, 2006 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    I have a t-shirt,

    ALCOHOLTOBACCOFIREARMS

    shouldbe aconvienience store

  13. Ben Huie
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    Cobbler made over a fire?

  14. Julie
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Hank,just need to make it a convenience store w/ a drive up window :)

  15. Posted July 5, 2006 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

    Nah,

    Made in the oven, but made from blackberrys off our little bush.

    We have a really great, easy and delicious recipe for cobblers.

    If you want I’ll post it when I get home from work.

    Hank

  16. gster
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    Hank- I’ll trade you for my recipe for Sardine soup!

    Gary

  17. J M Walker
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    gster,No one in their right mind would trade for sardine soup, so if Hank wants it . . . well, you take it from there:-)

  18. Marty Venick
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    I think it’s sad that you posted this Rhonda! Ask the average American, or Kansan for that matter what they think about these 2 issues. Not even close to being on the same level! You are so out of touch with the people of this city!

  19. Ben Huie
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

    I noted in today’s paper that a family’s home was destroyed by fireworks. Perhaps there is a reason for restrictions.

  20. gster
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

    WOW JM- You sure know to hurt a sardine’s feelings!

  21. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    Rhonda? That header of yours…..I……I’m at a loss. Really I honestly don’t know what to say…….You went to pretty dizzying lengths to call hypocrisy….

    Someone might want to fetch Rhondas couch.

    —–
    Conflating these issues seems to be a disservice to both.

  22. RD
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 9:15 pm | Permalink

    It’s 9:13 p.m., July 5, in my little corner of the city, and somewhere on the block, someone is shooting off something. Firecrackers would be my guess, but they all sound the same to me. Oh, yeah, there goes a whole string of ‘em.

  23. Ian Santiago
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 9:30 pm | Permalink

    Wow, Rhonda never fails to advocate for the further influx of useless third world invaders. I wonder how many wetbacks are camped out at her place?

    Viva la Raza Blanco!!!

  24. RD
    Posted July 5, 2006 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    Hank,

    Can you send me the link to the Yahoo group for Nathan? My email is live or post it here. I finally have a few minutes I can call my own. :)

  25. Hank Price
    Posted July 6, 2006 at 12:25 am | Permalink

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Nathaniniraq/

  26. RD
    Posted July 6, 2006 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Thanks, Hank! I’ll do it before getting some sleep so I don’t forget.

  27. raptor
    Posted July 6, 2006 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    Do fireworks take jobs? Do fireworks crowd schools with non-English speakers? Do fireworks overburden emergency rooms (well, yes on that one, at least one time during the year). Do fireworks require emergency dispatchers speak more than one language? Do fireworks break federal laws by falsifying documents? Do fireworks overwhelm social services by using said services while paying nothing in? Do fireworks trash one country and then come to another and do the same? Do fireworks join gangs and shoot people/spread grafitti? Do fireworks drive cars illegally without licenses or insurance?

    You kinda missed on this one, Rhonda…no comparison.

  28. Todd
    Posted July 6, 2006 at 8:48 am | Permalink

    Anyone who thinks of fireworks on the 4th of July as a nuisance is most likely a member of the local “fun police”…..not anyone I’d be interested in talking to, for sure.

  29. Damoon
    Posted July 6, 2006 at 8:03 pm | Permalink

    Hank, we watched the fireworks from our roof, what a great show! We think it would be fun to organize all the fireworks crazy people in our neighborhood next year and have it in our back yard. We could have one heck of a party until the sheriff comes to shut us down.

  30. Nathan
    Posted July 6, 2006 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Rhonda,

    There are all varying degrees of breaking the law.

    Obviously, murder for example, is much worse than jay walking.

    Are both breaking the law? Are both “wrong?” Yes.

    However, the degree of how wrong they are is still there.

    Violating the law by shooting off fireworks is a one time small infraction. At worst our fireworks would be confiscated and a fine levied.

    Illegaly comeing into the country is a constant violation of the law. For as long as you are here, you are breaking the law.

    I would hardly begin to call violating a countries borders and staying in that country illegaly equivalent to illegal fireworks.

  31. NR
    Posted July 7, 2006 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Seems to me that the fireworks that caused all the problems in the Wichita area were already illegal so what good would more restricitons do – other than ruining a perfectly good holiday.

    Don’t you all wonder how any of us ever grew up without the nanny state mandating our safety. Pretty sure child safety car seats had not even been invented when I was riding around in my mom’s 1969 Impala (what a boat!!).

  32. TRACY
    Posted July 7, 2006 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, Nathan.And along the same lines; masturbation may be a little bitty sin, but remember–IT ADDS UP!