“For too long, my party wrote off the African-American vote, and many African-Americans wrote off the Republican Party,” President Bush told the NAACP Thursday. “I want to change the relationship.” That won’t be easy, but it is good that there is more dialogue — this was Bush’s first appearance at the NAACP’s annual convention since he ran for president in 2000. Bush called for the extension of the Voting Rights Act and noted some GOP issues that he thought could benefit African-Americans, including school choice, policies that promote the ownership of homes and businesses, and his faith-based initiatives.
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Several Black Republican candidates running for Congress and governor races. I suspect all of them to win.
I want J.C. Watts to get back into the game again. I used to think he would make a great VP candidate.
African American embrace of bush and the GOP right around 2% as I hear.
Black Americans “get it”. They have KNOWN oppression. Too bad so many white working folks buy and vote for the lies of the GOP. Oppressed though they don’t know it but embrace it.
The NAACP no longer gives a damn about black people. They only give a damn about Liberal Democrat black people. They have demonstrated this time and time again over the past 10 years.
Why Bush wasted his time with them is beyond me.
YOu can tell it’s an electio year!
Hey JR,
Why don’t you do a comparison of ow many Black people are in the Bush administration in all varying types of positions verses “The first Black President” Bill Clintons?
The actual numbers are aroun 8-11% of the Black voters supporting the GOP, but regardless, it has more to do with tradition and perceptions than anything truthful.
Please tell me what EXACTLY it is that the democrats do for the Black people which makes them so much better than the GOP.
I’ll be waiting. While your at it, what was it EXACTLY that 8 years under Clinton did for the Black people.
The TRUTH is that the Black people have sold their souls to the liberals and get nothing but lip service for it.
He says he’ll sign the Voting Rights Act and yet he threw black voters off the rolls by the tens of thousands in the Florida elections.
Under a paper-thin legal pretext of removing felons, his Texas office helped Florida officials “purge” the voting rolls of blacks. Black congress people went to vote only to find out they had been “purged” and were no longer registered.
What I wonder is why the NCAAP invited HIM?
He’s enemy number one to equal rights in this country.
“Some call you the ‘haves’ and the ‘have mores.’” Bush is one record as saying a black-tie fund raiser. “I call you ‘my base.’”
Hey, Nathan.
Why don’t you do a comparison of how many nationally elected blacks there are who are Democrats with the ones who are Republican?
Also, 8 years under Clinton, the number of people in poverty went DOWN every year, and real wages went UP 7 out of 8 years.
Since minorities disproportionately comprise the poor, that helps blacks as a group and society as a whole.
Under Bush, people in poverty have gone UP every year and real wages have declined every year.
Dontcha just love it that all the posters on this thread are white, straight, middle to upper class men?
But of course, they would be experts on oppression, racial inequality, and the record of both parties regarding a minority.
I call no credibility. Unless they are lying about their identities….
KFG,
Then I take it your comments are only credible when dealing with old, white, female, lesbian, farmers who live in rural areas.
Please only comment on things dealing with that in all future discussions.
And seeing that you are also white you really dont know or have any credibility in evaluating whether or not “white, straight, middle to upper class men” can be credible or not.
Thank you logic 101…
Why the NAACP would even listen the the dipshit who brushed them off for 5 years is beyond me. Do they really thing shrub will change the ‘relationship’ between African-Americans and the GOP and they will be better off? Why they would waste their time listening to ‘I’m not a divider’ is perplexing. He has a very poor track record with keeping his word/promises and couldn’t tell the truth even if it would cause him less of a headache than a lie.
Nathan, your understanding of oppression leaves something to be desired. And I have been married to a black person and seen what happens up close and personal.
Can you say the same? Or do you just hear about it from terry, joe and fred. And Mann Coulter.
SO does that mean you will only be commenting on jackboots, rednecks and jesus freak matters?
I’m sorry KFG, your comments were not directly pertaining to your qualifications to speak…
The African-American community wrote off the republicans for good reason- they were the ones that opposed them at every turn, and still do! Look at what they tried to do to the Voting Rights Act just a week ago! Look at what they keep trying to do to school integration and affirmative action.Be that as it may, the Bushllit administration is still less racist than it is classist. It’s the poor and ill and hungry and homeless that have suffered the most under the republican heel. It’s a distinction that most black people find meaningless, given the poverty rate in their community, but poor white people are getting pretty much the same treatment under Bush, and the rich that are getting welfare now!Farm Gal,I made my bones in the civil rights movement back in the ’60’s, registering black voters in Alabama, and getting the crap beat outa me by the sheriff’s deputies!
Excellent post, Jed!
Yup, the n****r-lovers got it about as bad as anybody when they help organize for civil (I call them inalienable) rights.
You’re absolutely right about the class war the Bush coup has waged. My reaction after they stole the election is that now we all get to feel what it’s like to be black.
We all get to have the American black experience of seeing institutionalize injustice at the highest levels that benefits them and hurts us–that repudiates everything America is supposed to stand for–and not being able to do a damn thing about it . . .
Real RINOs are all the people who vote Republican and are in the position that the cost of gas hurts their budgets.
The KKK and the Democrat Party were synonomous for years. The Republican Party was the Anti Slavery Party, the Democrat Party was the Pro Slavery Party.The KKK Act was written to protect “Catholics, Republicans and Negroes in the Reconstruction South.” (Preamble of the Act)It was FDR and then LBJ and JFK that moved many Blacks over to the Democrat Party.The Voting Rights Act would not have passed if not Republican Support.Eisenhower sent Federal troops into Arkansas to challenge a racist Democrat Governor’s illegal and racists acts.Before you revisionists tell me that Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” is to blame for Blacks joining the Democrats — let me remind you that most of the violent anti-forced-bussing riots were in Boston and Chicago and Northern (Democrat) big cities.Race has been a problem for both parties.Trade Unionism was rabidly racist in the FDR years.Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, was a Eugenic racist who admired Hitler. “More from the fit, less from the unfit!”Don’t preach Democrats.Show a little humility.There is plenty of blame to go around.I believe that what galls you White Dems is that Nixon took your anti-bussing voting block away from you.You are actually mad that you lost some voters, you White Democrats.Losing voters offends you worse than any policy differences we might have had.But, hey, you still have Democrat Senator and former Grand Dragon Robert Byrd, (Also a former National Chairman of the Democrat Party.)
Thats a lot of shit listed there Paulie.Is there a point to all that effort?
Tracy, if you can’t see the point then it wasn’t written for you.I try to direct my posts to smart people. ;)
Bush fails again to understand folks. The President, whomever it may be has to stop throwing their party in people’s face.
Both parties are to blame for racist policies that helped them win elections in the past and continue to do so in the present.
Sanctioned racism talk, Bell Curve book, Limbaugh says minorities aren’t important to policies because they don’t represent huge numbers. So what ethnic communities are swallowed by Republicans in power to “whitewash” elections in wider representive area’s.
That fathead is the worst, he’s not moral but given the conservatives mouthpiece to disperse policy talk widely. Conservatives aren’t for “everybody”.
Bush failed people, not just black people or the NAACP for not being a man to stand before detractors. He always thought the NAACP talk would be uncivilized. He should have brought Cheney, Karl Rove, to discuss America and its goals, not just blather racial talk and failures of the Republican party he’s not about to change.
He knew less support of the war is there at the NAACP so he cowtowed and only talked about one thing.
He may go down as the most dishonorable President ever, the inability to guide Americans, no matter their economic status to a better life in this country. Iraq war his choice stifling growth, social policies with less money.
Fails to control industry and corporations who prey on the poor, with red lining community tactics,energy costs hit the poorest hardest, high interest rates on loaned money, insurance costs higher on minorities and their data stolen just becuase a license exists to collect that information. Pulled over in traffic more often so those increased civil fee’s add up. More liquour stores, pawn shops in areas of town, less grocery stores, the sense of shared communities. ‘Hood’s exist becuase of failed government policies.
America’s individuals have to get beyond being defined by color of skin. To hell with both political parties if they continue injustice on folks as policy to help them win elections.
Nathan,”Please tell me what EXACTLY it is that the democrats do for the Black people which makes them so much better than the GOP.”
Being a republican, it’s obvious you wouldn’t know or even be able to understand.
The Democratic Party represents the interests of Black people. Considering republicans represent only the rich, that counts for something. You’ll notice there’s no such critter as a “republican Black Caucus”. And isn’t “affirmative action” one of those things conservatives adamantly oppose? How about welfare?
What republicans are selling, Blacks aren’t buying.
Republicans would love it if everyone was “rich.”Only the Democrats benefit from poverty.
Tell us more Paul. You are SO enlightened!
And actually, what Democrats benefit from is reality. All of us have seen the true face of the Republican Party for the last five years, and let’s just say, she ain’t purty.
“Only the Democrats benefit from poverty.”
The way Bush has governed, the Democrats are going to be doing a lot of benefitting.
Just my $0.02.
What have Democrats done for black people?
Why is it that the most educated blacks are Republicans?
Joe?
A statement like “Most educated blacks are Republicans” kinda requires some proof. Got a link?
Or……
Being that more than 90% of blacks are NOT Republicans, are you implying that they are stupid?
Paul,”Republicans would love it if everyone was “rich.”"
Bullshit! Then there wouldn’t be anything to make them “special,” and nobody they would feel safe stealing from!
Competition is a spice of life, Jed.
One big difference between conservative and liberals is that conservatives believe that government should work to ensure equal opportunity. Liberals believe that government should work to ensure equal outcomes.
Wrongo Out
Conservatives want positive outcomes for some based on how they either use the many or allow themselves to be used. African Americans are not used to being “players” in this game. So they better understand what it is to be “played”.
I gotta do this again:
WASHINGTON, May 11 – President Bush appears to be losing support among a key group of voters who had hitherto stood firmly with the president even as his poll numbers among other groups fell dramatically.
A new Gallup poll shows that, for the first time, Bush’s approval rating has fallen below 50% among total f***ing morons, and now stands at 44%. This represents a dramatic drop compared to a poll taken just last December, when 62% of total f***ing morons expressed support for the president and his policies.
The current poll, conducted by phone with 1,409 total f***ing morons between May 4 and May 8, reveals that only 44% of those polled believe the president is doing a good job, while 27% believe he is doing a poor job and 29% don’t understand the question.
The December poll, conducted by phone with 1,530 total f***ing morons, showed 62% approved of the president, 7% disapproved and 31% didn’t understand the question.
Faltering approval ratings for the president among a group once thought to be a reliable source of loyal support gives Republicans one more reason to be nervous about the upcoming mid-term elections.
“If we can’t depend on the support of total f***ing morons,” says Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), “then we’ve got a big problem. They’re a key factor in our electoral strategy, and an important part of today’s Republican coalition.”
“We’ve taken the total f***ing moron vote for granted,” says Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL), “and now we’re paying for it. We’ve let the Democrats control the debate lately, and they’ve dragged discourse back into the realm of complex, nuanced issues. So your average total f***ing moron turns on his TV and sees his Republican Congressman arguing about Constitutional law or the complexities of state formation in the Middle East, and he tunes out. He wants to hear comforting, pandering, flattering bromides and he doesn’t want to hear a logical argument more complex than what you’d find on a bumper sticker.”
For Feeney, the poll is a dire warning that Republicans can ignore only at their peril. “This should send a signal that we have to regain control of the debate if we want the support of our key constituencies in the coming election and beyond. We need to bring public discourse back into the realm of stupidity and vacuity. We should be talking about homosexual illegal immigrants burning flags. We should be talkingabout the power of pride. We should be talking about freedom fries.These are the issues that resonate with total f***ing morons.”
But some total f***ing morons say it’s too late. Bill Snarpel of Enid, Oklahoma is a total f***ing moron who voted for Bush in both 2000 and 2004. But he says he won’t be voting for Bush in 2008.
“I don’t like it that he was going to sell our ports to the Arabs. Ifthe Arabs own the ports then that means they’ll let all the Arabs in and then we’ll all be riding camels and wearing towels on our heads. Idon’t want my children singing the Star Spangled Banner in Muslim.”
Total f***ing moron Kurt Meyer of Turlock, California also says his once solid support for Bush has collapsed. “He invaded Iraq and all those soldiers died, and for what? We destroyed all their WMDs, but now their new president is making fun of us and saying he’s going to build nuclear bombs and that we can’t stop him. Well, nuclear bombs are even worse than WMDs, so what did we accomplish?”
Laura McDonald, a total f***ing moron from Chandler, Arizona, says she is disappointed that the president hasn’t been a more forceful advocate of Christian values. “This country was founded on Christian values,” she says, “but you’d never know it looking around and seeing all the Mexicans running around.
I thought Bush was going to bring Jesus back into the government.Instead, Christians are being persecuted worse than ever before in history, because all these Mexicans come here and tell Christians that we have to respect their religious beliefs. So now it’s illegal for children to pray in school. Soon it will be illegal for them to speakEnglish.”
Not all total f***ing morons have turned their backs on the president. Jeb Larkin of Topeka, Kansas says he still fully supports Bush. “He is doing a great job. He is a great president. He is a great decider. I have a puppy. His tail sticks straight up and you can see his b***hole.”
And not all Republican lawmakers are concerned about the poll. Sen.Lamar Alexander (R-TN), for one, does not find it a cause for anxiety. While he agrees that his party should not take total f***ing morons for granted, they “really don’t have anywhere else to go. They’re never going to be able to understand someone like Al Gore or John Kerry or anybody intelligent and articulate who wants to talk about substantive issues. Just try having a conversation with one of them about global warming. They’ll say, ‘Oh, but Rush says volcanoes consume more ozone than humans do.’I mean, they’re morons! Total f***ing morons!”
“They’ve got nowhere else to go,” Alexander reaffirms with a smile, “and they always vote.”
That would have been funny if not so uncomfortably close to the truth! Or, maybe that’s why it’s funny!
Ok
J M? You already tried to make me die laughing with this on another thread. What you are here to finish me off?
Fing morons asked do you support bush 31% Don’t understand the question! Geez my kid even cracked up!
Great post, JM!
Yeah, that’s the problem, isn’t it. They’ve got more stupid people than we’ve got minorities.
The most misinformed people in America watch Fox News, studies prove it . . .
Go to TownHall.com or MicheleMouthikin.slut to recieve your free “I’m a F***ing Moron and Proud Of It” bumpersticker.
Tee-Shirts in small breast sizes available at AnnCoulter.skank.
LOL, XXX!
You’re on a roll today, dude!
Yeah, isn’t she just CREEPY? I saw some close up pictures of her face the other day, and she looks like a corpse with wide open eyes.
You also have to wonder why the right loves this woman who is well over forty and has no husband, no children, and has gone through any number of “boyfriends” over the years.
It’s abstinence for everybody else and fooling around for her.
“Do as we say, not as we do.”
Republicans do not benefit from poverty.Wealth is the ONLY cure for poverty.Democrat politicians hate anything that creates real wealth because Democrats depend on the misguided poor to vote for them.
The rich get rich and the poor get poorer… In the meantime, in between time, ain’t we got fun?
Paul,
That remark of yours was one of the dumbest I’ve seen on this blog. You just don’t have a clue, do you?
“Democrat politicians hate anything that creates real wealth because Democrats depend on the misguided poor to vote for them.”
Gee, Paul, Democrats aren’t working this very well for themselves, then.
You see under Clinton, the number of people in poverty went down every year.
Under Bush and the Republican Congress, they’ve gone up every year.
If poor people vote Democratic, why does Bush keep creating MORE of them?
Paul-I have to go with RD- I don’t think that even with a glass navel you could get clue!
It’s no wonder that hillary and fat teddy want to give wetbacks and felons the right to vote. The negro race is a trillion dollar drain on this country on an annual basis and more than 60% of them are functionally illiterate. The dems have bought the black vote in perpetuity because they reward them for their parasitic and criminal ways.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Democrats like to whine about an “imperial president” — but look at the posts above!Are you Democrats so economically illiterate that you think ANY U.S. President has control over the entire economy?The only thing a President can do is deal with the hand he has been dealt.Clinton was dealt an extrodinary hand by Reagan, who’s economic programs continued through out the Bush 1 and Clinton years.Clinton also benefited from the comming of age of the Baby Boomers, I refer you to two very a-political books, written by economist Harry Dent: “The Great Boom Ahead” and “The Roaring 2000’s”.Demographics, alone, can explain most of the Clinton growth. Baby Boomers were entering their peak investment and earnings and spending years.And don’t forget, Clinton left office at the beginning of a recession.W was handed a recession by Clinton, a war by radical Islam and some terrible natural disasters.Bush has played a bad hand very, very well.Clinton did NOTHING in 8 years.Name one economic program Clinton passed that can account for any change in ANY economic indicator?Back to my original point, however, the President is not the CEO of the economy, never has been.America is not Red China.America is not Cuba.All a President can do is encourage hard work and production and growth and investment.As John F. Kennedy taught us, the best way for a President to do that is through Tax Rate Cuts!
Paul, you’re ranting again and your “facts are suspect.
“Are you Democrats so economically illiterate that you think ANY U.S. President has control over the entire economy?”
Show me where any Liberal on this blog suggested that. But I think we can demonstrate that policies of the current administration have certianly hurt the economy. Things like elective wars that suck nearly 100 billion out of the economy for instance. But that’s off budget, of course. I guess that means it’s not real money.
“And don’t forget, Clinton left office at the beginning of a recession.”
What a steaming pile of republican shit. Bush talked down the economy all through the campaign leading up to the 2000 elections. The fact is, the recession didn’t start until March after Bush took office. Need I remind you that Clinton left office with a budget surplus?
“Clinton was dealt an extrodinary hand by Reagan, who’s economic programs continued through out the Bush 1 and Clinton years.”
Would you care to list some of these wonderful economic programs that President Dementia left for Clinton?
“W was handed a recession by Clinton, a war by radical Islam and some terrible natural disasters.”
As I stated above, the recession started on Bush’s watch. In one breath you say presidents don’t control the economy and in the next, you say “handed a recession by Clinton”. Which is it?
Bush didn’t get any war from “radical Islam”, he started the war. You’ll note that when WTC was attacked on Clinton’s watch, the perps were arrested, tried, and put in prison. And it didn’t cost almost 100 billion a year for 3 years. Note that there was still a WTC at the end of Clinton’s watch. On bush’s watch, we had the worst act of terrorism in the history of this country, almost 3000 Americans died, we lost the WTC, we haven’t caught OBL (We’re gonna smoke him out), And the perps are still running loose.
Natural disasters? Make that disaster. Katrina. With your moron in charge, how did that work out? The Clinton administration had hurricanes and handled them well. The bush administration will be remembered for the worst disaster management in our history.
“Clinton did NOTHING in 8 years.”
He got a blow job, which caused a hell of a lot less damage to the country than the antics of president chimpy-boy.
Face it, Paul. Your man is a total f***ing moron.
What I find totally hilarious about Paul and his ilk is that they whine and complain when anyone says anything derogatory about Bush, yet we spent 8 years of listening to their crap about Clinton AND STILL DO.
Get a grip, Reps. Clinton hasn’t been president for over 5 years. It’s all Georgy’s now, lock, stock and barrell.
And again XXX swings his migthy cast iron skillet of truth!
Bwooonggggg!
Let me hit clean up on proll Paul.
Paul says:
“All a President can do is encourage hard work and production and growth and investment.”
Yup bush ecourages hard work alright.More like he forces it. His amnesty to illegal aliens no doubt forces American workers to longer hours and less pay. “Production” bush also encouraged…..in CHINA which he gave most favored nation trading status and where the “growth” of US outsourced manufacturing grows and continues with the “investment” there of industries less concerned with country and more with profit.—–
Fools mention Clinton today having anything to do with Bush’s economics. The lie about that recession was just stock fraud going on. Investors were figuring out ENRON, WORLDCOM, ANDERSEN, and all the rest overstated their financies or just stole the money in executive swindles. It happened really quick too, between Janurary 2000 and prior days before 9/11. Remember how ENRON was messing up northwestern and western states with no oversight from the Bush feds.
Seems like that situation really took off after that Cheney energy meeting where Ken Lay and friends had tea.
What Bush inherited was nonsense from his father, he put idiots in charge of the SEC, EPA, FERC, all the alphabet government bungling agencies. The FBI with his appointment had evidence, but what happened, terrorist got in. He railed against Clinton’s military handling but the same group kicked into gear heading toward Afghansitan. It was misdirected toward Iraq with disastrous effects so far. The wars aren’t economical. Bush sold the fed soul to China.
Bush tax cuts are proven as Katrina damage still lays thrown everywhere and American’s displaced.
He’s handled nothing but deficit spending his dumb economic policies through a rubber stamp congress.
The machine that put Bush into power is being proven criminal with Senators and lobbyists laundering campaign money.
The sniffing of Bush’s glue is toxic and people are hooked addicts.
“Name one economic program Clinton passed that can account for any change in ANY economic indicator?”
I dont have time today, but surely SOMEONE will hit that outrageous softball out of the park.
heheh. At first I thought paul was ok but just swilled to much kookaide. Now?
heheheh. That statement has to rank amongst the DUMBEST things I have ever read on this blog.
And topping those dumb things is pretty hard. I mean, the above by paul is even dumber than thinking ann coultergeist has ANY credibility.
hee hee hee. As the election draws near, I hope paul keeps posting even more frequently.
We need the votes….
But we are amused and we do encourage you to try again.
“Name one economic program Clinton passed that can account for any change in ANY economic indicator?”
Where is BRIAN when we need him? We havent seen him for a while. Brian, come baaaaaaacccckkkkk.
And CF, I’m still missing you….
ks farm girlYou havent come up with even a policy clinton passed, let alone a policy that could account for any change in any economic indicator.I will help you.Clinton did raise taxes, one tax, the luxury tax, accounted for massive unemployment in ship and yacht building trades.Clinton also left W with a recession.But again, Presidents do NOT “RUN” the economy, they can do dumb things (like raise taxes) but they don’t run the private sector which really runs the economy.Oh, one other thing, Clinton vetoed “welfare reform” 3 times I think, after pushing for it in his first campaign.The Republicans in Congress finally FORCED Clinton to sign it, almost the EXACT same bill he had previously vetoed!
And that balancing the budget and paying down the national debt thing-y, Paul . . . Clinton had nothing to do with that?
Don’t even bother, man.
I don’t want to hear whatever spin-crap you right-wingers fling on this one.
But just to re-impose the “reality-based” view that you neo-cons have rejected, Bush and the Republicans have given us the largest national debt in nominal dollars and in real terms (as a percentage of the GDP) in our nation’s history.
Spin that.
BTW, nobody can force the President to sign something, you dumb ass.
What? they held a gun to his head?
I don’t busy myself much with “economic indicators” proll Paul. They tend to mean the rich are getting richer…..not an interest of mine.
I’ll tell ya something Clinton got it that has helped the economy of lots of working people myself included. THE FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE ACT!!! You know, that little bit of help for folks who get sick or have babies. The little thing that keeps an employer from firing someone if they get sick or have to care for an ill family member.
See? I worry about the economy of working people. The economy of the already wealthy? Not much interest to me.
But I join kfg in encouraging you to keep posting. (By the way? You MIGHT wanna go over to the Tiahrt shooting range thread. YOU know, the one where you led Nathan into total defeat and then disappeared?) Your posts are good to show folks why Republicans and conservatives are not to be trusted with power.
Europe always has higher unemployment than the USA. Why is that?I believe it is because things like the “family and medical leave act” and much worse have been pushed on European businesses for a long time.Please understand that EVERY country has WORKERS.Great economies are developed by encouraging RISK taking.Economies are wrecked by hamstringing businesses with too many regulations.Again, without risk takers, people who put up their own money, economies fail.Everyone has workers, workers alone can never make a great economy.Of course, I do believe workers with stock bonuses do a better job.I do believe in incentives.
Outlandish—LOLClinton never passed anything to account for the economic growth under his watch. Nothing.Republicans actually blocked his “stimulus package” remember?Also, the Republicans FORCED welfare reform on Clinton by bringing it up so many times, it was hurting his party at the polls.
JRAs posted earlier, you are a blow hard and a bully.You are abusive and rude and not very smart.However, I do believe that as independents scan these pages, they will be repulsed by you and a few others in here.Maybe I am not the best recruiter for common sense Republican causes, but you sir, are not likely to win very many hearts and minds for your side.You remind me of a union picketer cursing at those crossing the picket line, even vandalizing their cars, even if it is a repairman or delivery person who has no choice.You are right, in your mind, so you tear down anyone who disagrees with you.I don’t mind you attacking my arguments, but jumping from thread to thread and claiming previous “victories” that dont really exist is the act of a school yard bully.