First, do no harm?

The recent U.S. Supreme Court decision upholding challenges to lethal injection executions is being watched closely in Missouri, where the state has been unable to find a single taker among the state’s almost 300 anesthesiologists willing to administer the deadly dose of chemicals.
It’s not encouraging that the surgeon who has administered the procedure for a decade admitted to a federal judge reviewing the state’s death penalty system that there was no protocol for the procedure and that he often “improvised” the dosage.
This reinforces the ethical dangers of getting doctors involved as executioners.
Posted by Randy Scholfield

26 Comments

  1. Mrage
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 2:32 am | Permalink

    Strictly due to the cost of criminals death appeal process with pricey lawyers and many questions even after some convictions in court rooms where justice is unbalanced, due to politics, the death penalty should be ended in every state.

    Bad people have committed terrible crimes and 23 hours a day in solitary confinement, the prisoners get no medical attention for anything, their death might be natural occuring in a jail cell however long it takes.

    Those are prisoners with the worst convictions. Left to rot in jail, no ability have conversations by mail or phone forever.

    The questions whether an innocent person in an old case where justice was corrupt, no state can guarentee an innocent won’t be put to death.

    Hard work by college investigator classes are freeing some criminals because they were actually innocent.

    It’s become a political tool, grandstanding in courtrooms. Bad criminal defense in every state that system is kept weak.

    If the medical people can’t bring themselves to assist lethal injections, that’s it for the program. It’s a medical process.

    Jails are full with horrible criminals clogging the appellate courts with paperwork.

    Kansas with no death penalty right now hasn’t run into the problem unable to find anesthesiologists.

  2. Joe Williams
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    I wonder what people would think about Virgina. They are going to eletrocute an inmate.

  3. Mary Caruso
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    I’m an RN, I’ll do the injection if they can’t find anybody. I’m sure learning what drugs to give is a piece of cake. There’s no rocket science in putting someone permanently “to sleep”.

  4. Mary Caruso
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 9:21 am | Permalink

    Maybe they could get George Tiller to do it. He’s had many years of experience in aborting humans and I’m sure he’d be able to sleep at night with no problem.

  5. Politicalmom
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    I’ll snuf the dirtbags. I am not a medical person.I think bullet in the head is faster and more humane.Pick me…please let me do it.

  6. Mary Caruso
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    OK, PM, we’ll just have to draw straws.

  7. Mountain Man
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 10:30 am | Permalink

    If they have a problem finding someone to do the deed just ask the family of the victims. They would beat the hell out of each other trying to get to the front of the line.

    Eye fo an eye right?

  8. Julie
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    Hey MM! Good to see you back on the blog! Didn’t realize I gave you permission to get out of the dungeon. HAHA :)

  9. Mountain Man
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    I snuck out, but only because I am looking forward to the beating that I might get for my insubordination.

  10. Julie
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    my dyin’ ass…people are gonna take us seriously

  11. Julie
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    thank you for the giggle – I needed that today

  12. XXX
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Mary, are you sure you could kill someone? It’s not as easy to live with as you might think…..

  13. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Funny stuff Julie and good to see you Mountain Man.

    I once sent out christmas cards with a pic of a grinning 400lb dominatrix in a tutu on the cover and a quirt in her hands. On the inside?

    “seasons beatings”

    heheh

  14. Jed
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Farm Gal,Many years ago, when I worked for the Eagle, one of the journalst organizations sent out a poster for an editorial contest. Had a woman in a corset and net stockings with a bullwhip and the headline “SUBMIT!”

  15. Jed
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    How about giving murderers a choice between suicide and life in solitary with NO hope of release? Personally, I’d prefer not giving them the option of suicide and letting them rot, but it would save the state a bit on upkeep.

  16. Julie
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

    Jed,We would place them in solitary and then ‘accidentally’ leave rope, copious amounts of deadly pills, or cyanide laying about for them to use if they saw fit.

  17. Ian Santiago
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Are there any “ethical dangers” for doctors who perform abortions, Randy? Were there any “ethical dangers” for the doctors who removed Terry Schiavo’s feeding tube?

    Both of my parents were doctors and they were both UBER pro-death penalty. If doctors are suddenly feeling squeamish about eradicating vermin like the carr brothas and ray-ray then let’s go back to hanging ‘em! heck, I will even volunteer for the job of freelance executioner! :)

    V.L.R.B!!!

  18. Tony
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    I’ll do it!

    All they have to do is give me a nice hotel to stay at… ill fly/drive over there and administer it.

    I aint a doctor but i would expect a doctor to break his vowed not to do harm… So I will!

  19. Tony
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, meant Wouldn’t…

    And meant vow…

    Dam spell check…

  20. Paul F. Rosell
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    I have always thought lethal injection was a bad idea. I would prefer almost ANY other method. Medical doctors should do no harm, period.

  21. XXX
    Posted July 24, 2006 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

    Lots of blood thirsty posters here.

    It’s easy to kill.

    You’ll have a long time to think about it afterward.

  22. Joe Williams
    Posted July 25, 2006 at 6:45 am | Permalink

    How about Firing Squad?

  23. Mr X
    Posted July 25, 2006 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    How about we lock them up and throw away the key. How about we join the rest of the civilized world and get rid of this barbaric practice. How about we quit trying to prove that killing is wrong by killing someone.

    The death penalty is not about anything other than vengence. There is no healing through vengence.

  24. Mary Caruso
    Posted July 25, 2006 at 8:08 pm | Permalink

    Life is only precious, Mr X, when by taking one you must pay for it with your own.XXX, I’m not sure I could kill anyone, maybe if they killed someone I love I could. It’s just fun to fantasize. When my daughter married and divorced her abusive husband, I used to pass the time during the long drive back and forth to work by planning his murder. It was very cathartic, almost therapeutic for me. I know I’d never follow through, but it sure was fun. To say I hated him was putting it mildly, and it helped me deal with my anger that was eating me up.

  25. heartlander
    Posted July 28, 2006 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Killing someone is a violation of the Oath of Hippocrates. This is actually true for mercy killing as well. For execution, the fact is, axe-beheading and guillotining are “humane” in that they cause cessation of consciousness in about one second. Or we could recruit non-medical people to do public stonings.

  26. Mary Caruso
    Posted July 30, 2006 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    Maybe the Muslims are more humane in the way they execute people then, convict them and then chop off their heads in a matter of days. It’s fast and efficient. Just think of the money they save on legal fees and taking care of the convicted person for years through endless appeals. Maybe they’re more civilized than we think.