“It’s like after Katrina, when the secretary of homeland security was saying all those people weren’t really stranded when we were all watching it on TV,” said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., noting how the public hasn’t bought the GOP attempt to blame the media for not reporting how well things are going in Iraq. As a result, many GOP lawmakers are making a strategy shift, The Washington Post reported, and are now saying that they don’t agree with every decision President Bush has made but that the choice is either staying and fighting or conceding defeat to a vicious enemy.
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Reality is a b*tch.
Too bad the Republicans ignored it for so long.
After they stole the elections and nothing happened, they thought they were invincible.
“You can run on for a long time.You can run on for a long time.You can run on for a long time.But Good God Almighty is gonna cut you down.”
They should have faced accountability many moons ago. The Chorus line Congress is soon to be no more.
Another Washington Post article comparing our Iraq errors to those made in Viet Nam:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072201004.html
Has Bremer received his presidential medal of honor, yet? He looks to have been a huge problem with the occupation from the very beginning.
Inlander on your address: I don’t think so…
Here’s a good one for your reading pleasure:
Group: U.S. military urged abuse in Iraq
Oops! missed the link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060723/ap_on_re_us/detainee_abuse
And I was dumb enough to think we’d learned our lesson in Vietnam.
No occupying army has ever won against an insurgency. Iraq is a shooting gallery. The Middle East is decending into chaos. And our troops are right in the middle of a powderkeg that’s just waiting to go off. All that’s missing now is a tactical nuclear device or a few chemical or biological weapons to start WWIII or wipe out half of our Army.
The massive egos in Washington cry because the media doesn’t report the good news in Iraq? What a pack of idiots.
David Susskind:
“…which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.
The aide said that guys like me were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
Inlander,
can you post a link for the Susskind quote, or identify the a book title or mag article from which this was excerpted? Susskind must have been talking about GHWB, because he died on Feb 22, 1987.
I guess if blaming the media doesn’t work, republicans can go back to their usual dodge when their stupidity shows.
Blame it on Clinton.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?ex=1265346000&en=67e5e499d9ce0514&ei=5088
It was RON Susskind. My mistake . . .
Suskind . . . there, finally got it right.
Wait, wait, wait – things AREN’T going great in that bastion of freedom that our Glorious Leader pretty much singlehandedly liberated, otherwise known as Iraq? This is obviously another attempt by the LIBERAL media to strike at one of our greatest presidents, the god-like George W Bush. We all know that their secret agenda includes reporting on reality, which is obviously treason, as one LTE made so perfectly clear today. I’m just glad W’s keeping us safe, we’re fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here, cut-and-run, spreading democracy, blah blah blah, etc.
(All sarcasm aside, any attempt by the fascists to distance themselves from the War Criminal in Chief should be labelled with what they used to say about those that dissented from the GOP party line: treason. I mean, we were told in 2004 that if you didn’t vote for Bush you were practically a terrorist. I JUST LOVE WHEN REALITY BITES RIGHT-WING ASSHOLES IN THE ASS.)
A very interesting article.
What suskind meant was that they were going to be screwing things up so fast and furiously, just try and keep up!
Gee, I don’t see all the BushBots telling us how wonderful things are!
>>Gee, I don’t see all the BushBots telling us how wonderful things are!<<
What, and spoil the spotless unanimity of opinion amongst all the free thinkers? Heaven forfend…
Well, Jack, when the facts are so clear one might expect a certain amount of unanimity.
I haven’t heard many people complaining about how cold it was last week either.
I saw this on a yahoo forum, Looks like they nailed the Liberal MSM!Liberals dominate the media….this has been announced by Rush Limbaugh. And Thomas Sowell. And Ann Coulter. And Rich Lowry. Bill O’Reilly. And William Safire. And Robert Novak. And William F. Buckley, Jr. And George Will.
And John Gibson. And Michelle Malkin. And David Brooks. And Tony Snow. And Tony Blankely. And Fred Barnes. And Britt Hume. And Larry Kudlow. And Sean Hannity. And David Horowitz. And William Kristol. And Hugh Hewitt.
And Oliver North. And Joe Scarborough. And Pat Buchanan. And John McLaughlin. And Cal Thomas. And Joe Klein. And James Kilpatrick. And Tucker Carlson. And Deroy Murdock. And Michael Savage. And Charles Krauthammer. And Stephen Moore. And Alan Keyes.
And Gary Bauer. And Mort Kondracke. And Andrew Sullivan. And Nicholas von Hoffman. And Neil Cavuto. And Matt Drudge. And Mike Rosen. And Dave Kopel. And John Caldara.
The mainstream media in this country are dominated by liberals. Look at how they all gave Bill Clinton a pass on the whole Monica Lewsinsky affair. Remember? It was never in the news. We never heard any of the salacious details.
Mention that the Sunday PBS pundit show The McGlauglin Group is named and orchestrated by that liberal John McGlauglin guy.
Mention that the second largest media organization in America is owned and controlled by that liberal Rupert Murdoch guy.
Mention that the most listened to dittoheaded talk radio show in the world is from that liberal Rush Limbaugh guy.
Mention that the most listened to political commentary on the radio is that liberal Paul Harvey guy.
Mention that the magazine with the largest circulation in America –TV Guide — is owned and controlled by that liberal Rupert Murdoch guy.
Mention that the daily newspaper with the top circulation in America is the liberal Wall Street Journal.
Mention that Newsweek’s back page editorial 4 out of 5 times is from that liberal George Will guy.
Mention that ABC, CBS, NBC and their owners Disney, Westinghouse and General Electric are liberal corporations.
Mention that over 90% of the daily newspapers over the past 16 years endorsed such liberals as Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Bush and Dole for President.
Mention that you can’t even turn a radio on the AM dial without hearing such liberals as Bob Grant, Gordon Liddy, Ken Hamblin, Michael Reagan, Armstrong Williams and Laura Schlessinger pushing their liberal bias
CHECK OUT ALL THOSE “Liberals” =>
Rupert Murdoch of FOX – $30,033 to RNC… AOL/Time Warner/Walter Isaacson of CNN – $60,150 to RNC… GE/Jack Welch of NBC – $160,350 to RNC… Disney/Michael Eisner/ABC – $208,052 to RNC … and on… and on… and on…
It’s so VERY BAD that we are REALLY LUCKY to hear about ANY “Bush Administration” F-UP’s at ALL!!! (I’m sure it’s only because the “REAL stories” get picked-up by the WORLD Media so they HAVE to say SOMETHING about the “Real News”!)
After ALL!!! THEY know that the “Liberals” will go ALL OUT to protect the interests of “Big Business” and the friends of George!!!
Good work Steve.
Thanks, Steve, well done!
But you actually left out a few–
Neil Boortz, Michael Savage, everyone at Fox News except Juan Williams . . .
Gosh, blaming the media isnt working?
Blaming Clinton isnt working?
hmmmmm……
Could it be that voters are wising up? Probably not, at least not in kansas where the kookaide flows like wine.
Better come up with someone else to blame since the first two dont work, and we know how republicans support “three strikes and you are out”.
I hear the pitcher winding up….
hee hee hee, they could blame ossama, but then they’d have to answer about the whole “dead or alive” thing and why bush now says he doesnt think about ossama much.
Must have haliburton on his mind….
So many right-wingers on this blog and none could summon the will to defend their great leader’s war . . .
The times, they are a-changing.
Out,Maybe they’re running out of excuses. I miss the part about how nobody is talking about all the good things happening in Iraq. I haven’t heard anything lately about that light at the end of the tunnel either. And those insurgents sure have been in their last throes for a long time.
It’s got to be embarassing to be a republican and have to defend a nit-wit.
You have to have a conscience or care about anyone or anything other than yourself to be embarassed about anything.
Do you know any of the koolaide crowd fitting that description?
Me neither.
The “light at the end of the tunnel” is napalm. Other than that there is no end. Viet Nam in spades. Makes Nixon look like a great President, don’t he.
“I haven’t heard many people complaining about how cold it was last week either.”
Hey, when that cold spell dropped in and temperatures plunged to the mid-nineties, I was thinking long-johns and overcoat.
I was just plain thankful!!!!!!!!
KFG, not all voters are wising up. People in Texas, Idaho, Wyoming, and Utah still have their heads lodged firmly up thier backsides.
http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StateBushApproval060718State.htm
On a brighter note it looks like Specter has grown a pair and the GOP may be in the early stages of a feeding frenzy.http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/07/24/ap2900817.html
We are already seeing the benefits of removing Saddam.Notice how the Arab states are not too supportive of the Palestinians or Hezbollah??The Second World War was not a perfect war, we made hundreds of mistakes that cost tens of thousands of lives, but the Press, back then, assumed that America was right and that Our leaders were doing their best in a bad situation.Sorry Main Stream Media, I question your honesty, your patriotism and your courage.
I’m glad you brought up WW2, Paul.
Because if this WERE WW2, it would be over by now.
What were seeing in the MidEast is the “reverse domino” effect–instead of scaring the other countries into moving rapidly toward pro-American democracy, we’re showing that we can’t punch our way out of a paper bag.
So, you’ve got Iraq building a bomb and telling the world to shove it. You’ve got Hizbollah firing rockets into northern Israel. The Palestinians voted in Hamas because they vowed to confront (American client state) Israel, which they did.
Meanwhile we’re T-Rex in a tarpit in Iraq, watching it all go down and not being able to do a thing.
Paul you are correct in that many Arab states are not (openly) supporting Hamas, Al Qaeda, or Hezbollah. (I have no idea if they are doing so secretly) They have several ‘incentives’ to not support them the biggest being the US won’t invade (Although I personally don’t think that would be an option.) I am willing to bet there are also financial benefits as well.
But removing Saddam has burned into the minds of many that the US is an oppressive overlord wishing to destroy their culture and convert them to christianity. So while the states do not support these groups thousands of people do. People willing, and in fact wanting, to give their lives for Islam and in the same stroke to strike at those they see as the enemy. So having no Arab governments support these groups isn’t really saying much because the people do support them. Hamas did win a majority in the ruling body by election.
I heard on NPR yesterday that one of the ways Hamas and Hezbollah raise money is by selling counterfit Viagra in this country.
I know there is a joke in there somewhere.
Remember the last time the Bush administration did nothing, while “planning for a robust policy” (Condi’s words) — that’s right Bush, et al’s response to Al Qaeda prior to 9/11.
“KFG, not all voters are wising up”
No shit. Especially in kansas.
“Sorry Main Stream Media, I question your honesty, your patriotism and your courage.”
hee hee hee hee hee hee
I guess when you cant make a cogent argument, you can always fall back on the RNC talking points.
“Why does the MSM hate america?”
“Why do you love the terrorists?”
“You are either with us or against us.”
Good dog paul. Now here is a GOP bone. Thank the good people at viagra.
Oops, I forgot to yell “MEME ALERT”
Blaming Iraq on the GOP hasn’t worked for the democrats either. The very concept of using human suffering for political gain is disgusting. As far as I’m concerned a pox on both of your houses.
“The very concept of using human suffering for political gain is disgusting.”
Hate amendment anyone?
Iraq anyone? Lebanon anyone?
KATRINA anyone?
heheh the GOP uses human suffering for political gain as it’s go-to stock in trade.
Careful with those poxes. The party you hurt might be your own.
“Careful with those poxes. The party you hurt might be your own.”
I am neither a democrat or republican. I don’t have the stomach for such hatred in my life.
Funny, you sure express lots of hatred like “you people are not worth giving your life for”…
I could do more bone digs, but I am sure LRB, that you remember your own words. And how you have previously shilled for the republicans.
Dont make me do a repost of your greatest hits.
Oh, and btw…
blaming the republicans for iraq HAS worked quite well for the democrats. See the polling numbers on control of congress (a majority want dems in control) the numbers on immediate withdrawl (once again, a majority support it) and the numbers on the question of was iraq worth the cost (a majority say no).
I could go on, but I think you get the idea…
…and before you say it, I cant WAIT for the only poll that counts. The one in November.
“Funny, you sure express lots of hatred like “you people are not worth giving your life for”…
You liberals aren’t worth giving your life for. Just ask the soldiers in Iraq.
Paulie:”We are already seeing the benefits of removing Saddam.”
You’re talking about the average of 100 people being murdered in cold blood each day in Bahgdad, right? I mean the Iraqis did not see “benefits” like that under the regime of Saddam.
There are some newer anti-pschotic medications that do dampen delusions. Some people might want to consider them.
outlandish, I assume that you meant Iran was building a Nuke and not Iraq.We all make mistakes!
Fewer people die in Iraq every day NOW than did under Saddam.
The most frequent cause of death in GAZA is “honor killing” or the killing of Moslem women by Moslem men for “dishonoring” the family. Moslem men kill more of their own women than any Israeli or Western Army ever has. (And they do it on purpose, and they do it with gross brutality.)
And Farm Girl, if the entire city of Los Angeles and the entire city of New York absolutely hated George Bush, it would affect polling numbers but would not effect elections one bit.We are a Republic, not a direct Democracy.I strongly believe that the GOP will hold on to at least one House of Congress, and have a better than 50/50 chance of holding on to BOTH.Besides, even if the GOP lost seats, history won’t notice much. Historically speaking, Bush should have lost many seats in his first Mid Term and did not. It would be astonishing to see a 2nd Mid-term with no loses in Congress.Either way, liberalism is NOT winning.A great many of those people who are unhappy with Bush are Conservatives.
“And Farm Girl, if the entire city of Los Angeles and the entire city of New York absolutely hated George Bush, it would affect polling numbers but would not effect elections one bit.”
Like I said, I cant wait for the only poll that counts. The one this November. heheh.
Wonder what nic paulie will use then? No doubt, he will be too ashamed to use the same one. hee hee
Bad news for the democrats.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/07/26/a_message_for_democrats/