Terrorists can be homegrown

The indictments of seven men who reportedly aspired to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and several federal buildings in Miami is another reminder that terrorists don’t just come from other countries. Five of the men were U.S. nationals “who for whatever reason came to view their home country as the enemy,” Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Friday. The men allegedly were terrorist wannabes, who were seeking financial and logistical help from al-Qaida.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

21 Comments

  1. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    This “Terrorism” crap is getting old. There is no such thing. All we’re doing is encouraging some crazies to blow something up. If we gave robbing Department store this much advertising, there would be a rash of robberies on department stores. This is nothing more than a money, power grabbing thing

    That’s it period.

  2. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Bush has giving himself the power to clean-out Bank Accounts worldwide, on the pretext of “terrorism.”

    No proof needed.

  3. XXX
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

    Come on, Ed, give the pres a break. He didn’t get to steal Iraq’s oil. Stealing everybody’s money is the next best thing, right?

    Oh, wait a minute…..

  4. Joe Williams
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

    Give these guys a chance, the equipment, and the cash neccesary to carry it out and they would have.

    This isn’t a joke people. This isn’t some concaction developed by Bush and Rove just to make him look good.

    This is real and a warning that the war on terrorism is not a political football.

  5. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

    Here is how Haaretz plays-up the phony “terror” alert { These boys were in a warehouse wearing “Ninja Costumes,” telling an “undercover” FBI Agent their shoes sizes to get some boots to go with the “Ninja Costumes” }

    “U.S. official: Alleged terror plot dramatizes threats U.S. faces

    By The Associated Press”

    “WASHINGTON – Seven young men arrested in an alleged plot to bomb the tallest building in the United States were part of a group of “homegrown terrorists” who sought to work with Al-Qaida but ended up conspiring with an informant, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Friday.”

    “Outlining an alleged plot against the 110-floor Sears Tower in Chicago and a federal building in Miami, Gonzales told a Justice Department news conference: “They were persons who for whatever reason came to view their home country as the enemy.” { this belongs on a SNL skit }

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/730740.html

    These kids were trying to pull a train to get some money after hearing about Sears Tower on TV. One of their mothers said they were standing guard by the door of the old warehouse with nothing showing except their eyes that were all wrapped-up, looking like fools.

    The FBI needs to go back to Waco, now that they have all that neat gear they’re wearing. They’re “Super-Ninjas” now.

  6. J R
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    The way I get this story is the government infiltrator of the group was feeding them money which they were happily taking. Sounds more like a case of entrapment to me.

    There is no small number of folks very unhappy with the state of affairs in the US. Count me among them. Find a little fringe group of them with no money, and no weapons and offer cash to help out their “cause” and you could probably paint them into just about any corner you like.

    These folks are just about as much a “threat” as the empty shells found in Iraq that are getting called WMDs. Oh but hey they get to show ya that georgie is on the job protecting ya!

  7. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 11:14 pm | Permalink

    If Karl wasn’t trying to get his “Boy” a cooperative congress, this matter would have been handled as a simple B&E , maybe not even that as this part of town was so poor the Police have more important things to do.

    But trying to get Bushco his congress comes first for Karl, so these dumb kids may spend decades in jail as a result of doing nothing but playing “Ninja games.”

    It looks like more of a case of entrapment by the FBI who might have solicited them by pretending to be from al-Qaida looking for”recruits, between now and the election.”

  8. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 23, 2006 at 11:18 pm | Permalink

    JR

    I wasn’t trying to steal your thunder with “entrapment,” as we just crossed posts with the same obvious conclusion.

  9. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    There is no such thing as “terror”

    Years ago Ariel Sharon tagged the Palestinian resistance to being slaughtered as “Terrorists”

    That made it The Israeli Defence Force { IDF } against the “Terrorists” which made the butchers the victims and the ones being slaughtered the bad-guys.

    Understand that knucklehead?

    There is no such thing as “terror” “Terrorist” “Terrorism” or the “War on Terror”

    By being “Terrorized” Israel was able to drain 1.6 Trillion Dollars out of the United States Treasury and all the fucking sympathy that goes with being the victim.

    “Terror” is the excuse that government uses to murder people, and destroy the US Constitution.

    Understand that knucklehead?

  10. TRACY
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Ed, I DO understand your views on the USA/Israel connections.Sometimes I agree, sometimes not so much.There’s really not much I could bring to the discussion though, that you haven’t already covered.

  11. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Check-out what Bolton is cooking-up at the UN…..This from NRA

    U.N. CONFERENCE ON “SMALL ARMS” WILL CONVENE NEXT WEEK

    “As we recently reported, the “U.N. Conference to Review Progress Made in the Implementation of the Programme of Action to Prevent and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects,” will begin Monday, June 26. The conference’s absurdly lengthy title tells you all you need to know–this meeting is about “action to prevent and eradicate” your rights. And make no mistake, the U.N., fueled and financed by the likes of Rebecca Peters and George Soros, is trying to do just that (if you have any doubt about where Rebecca Peters stands on the issue of a U.N. sanctioned ban on your firearms, please visit http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegislation/Read.aspx?ID=2283 to view video of her publicly stating her views). But they’re in for a fight.”

  12. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    One million dollars is a stack of hundred bills about 3 feet high.

    One Billion dollars is a stack of bills as high as the Empire State Building.

    One Trillion dollars is as tall as 1000 Empire State Buildings.

    Zionist Israel has taken 1.6 trillion dollars from 1973 to date { a stack of hunderds 1,600 Empire State Buildings tall }.

    Loans were all converted to “Grants,” so it doesn’t owe us a dime after having paid nothing.

    That much money would fix every prolem we have here at home.

    All except getting rid of Bush.

  13. TRACY
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 9:34 am | Permalink

    Ed there is not enough money in the world to get rid of a dictator who will exempt himself from law any time he wants to be ‘the decider’.

  14. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    We need a Democratically controlled congress.

    That will neuter him.

  15. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Heheheheh. Entrapment.

    You know, if some FBI undercover type, long hair, unshaven and unbathed, came out here, worked on a rig and started talking about the damn government, and if he also tossed a little cash around with the posse type guys out here, he would get lots of takers and followers.

    heheh. but the’s be white guys and they wouldnt be wearing ninja costumes. They’d be wearing torn and dirty t-shirts, redwing boots, and wranglers. With a budweiser gimme cap. But you wouldnt need much to stir up a rebellion against the government. Murrah building anyone?

    Maybe that wouldnt raise the ire of all those “love it or leave it” folks as much as these young black urban males. America is already terrified of them, and just invoking the angry black urban man is enough to send everyone scurrying for their stockpile of assault weapons. Willie Horton anyone?

    Ya hafta scroll a little, but it is worth the read.

    http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/

  16. TRACY
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 9:46 am | Permalink

    Amen, brother Amen.I’ve HAD enough.

    And I’ll say it again:Voting Republican is like running in the ‘Special Olympics’, even if you win you’re still retarded.

  17. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 9:47 am | Permalink

    1. Congress veto-proof bill: Congress shall have the right to remove a president they believe to be mentally ill.

    Have the FBI go get him and send that bastard to Gitmo { for rest and time to recover }.

  18. Jed
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 10:20 am | Permalink

    Ed,Problem is, mentally ill is a phrase that gets a lot of misuse. For decades, any nation’s leader we want to disparage gets labelled mentally ill, and the CIA usually has some piece of paper they say proves it. Castro, Kaddafi and Kim Il Sung jr. have made that list in recent years, and the evidence boils down to someone in our govt. doesn’t like them.Maybe a better solution would be a petition of no confidence circulated by grassroots organizers, with a requirement that better than 50% of registerd voters sign it! It would be clumsy and clunky and take time, but that would be for the better.

  19. XXX
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Tracy, stop it, Man, you’re killing me!

  20. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    Jed

    This Guy is on a “mission from God,” just like the Blues-Brothers; he’s said that to people and he was having praying sessions, at first, about four to five times a day.

    Ariel Sharon came over a blew some more smoke up his cszoo, and how he did it with a straight-face ought to have earned him an Academy Award.

    This guy certifiably fg-crazy.

  21. Ed Friedemann
    Posted June 24, 2006 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Jed, you worry too much, we can amend the law right after he and Cheney are safely locked-up after a quick midnight flight.

    That’s the way they’re playing it, so turn-around is fair-play right?

    Rummy will need to stay in his straight-jacket for a while.

    He rides baggage and that will make him not a very happy camper, right?

    Congress will need to pass this law while they’re all dressed in Ninja Costumes.

    This is operation PeeNAC?