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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56568</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 08:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right angle, and we should care about that why?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right angle, and we should care about that why?</p>
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		<title>By: Right angle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56565</link>
		<dc:creator>Right angle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 02:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Can you believe that Kansas is number 8!

These are the rankings and average scores for each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia in the GMAC Insurance driving test.

Average: 83.7 percent

1. Oregon 90.6

2. Washington 88.2

3. Vermont 87.5

4. Idaho 87.3 (Tie)

4. South Dakota 87.3 (Tie)

6. Montana 87.2

7. Nebraska 87.0

8. Kansas 86.8

9. Iowa 86.7

10. Wyoming 86.2

11. Wisconsin 86.1

12. Minnesota 86.0

13. Alaska 85.8

14. California 85.6

15. Indiana 85.2 (Tie)

15. Colorado 85.2 (Tie)

17. Michigan 85.1

18. North Dakota 85.0

19. West Virginia 84.8

20. Utah 84.5

21. Mississippi 84.4

22. Illinois 84.3

23. Tennessee 84.2

24. Texas 84.0 (Tie)

24. Kentucky 84.0 (Tie)

26. New Hampshire 83.9

27. Arkansas 83.8

28. Virginia 83.5

29. Arizona 83.4

30. Georgia 83.2 (Tie)

30. Louisiana 83.2 (Tie)

32. North Carolina 83.1 (Tie)

32. Maine 83.1 (Tie)

34. Ohio 83.0

35. Oklahoma 82.9

36. Alabama 82.8

37. Missouri 82.7 (Tie)

37. Delaware 82.7 (Tie)

39. Nevada 82.6

40. South Carolina 82.3 (Tie)

40. Florida 82.3 (Tie)

42. Pennsylvania 82.1

43. New Mexico 81.5

44. Connecticut 80.9

45. Hawaii 80.7

46. Maryland 79.5

47. New York 79.4

48. New Jersey 78.6 (Tie)

48. Massachusetts 78.6 (Tie)

50. Washington, D.C. 76.5

51. Rhode Island 75.1

2006-05-30 11:07:45
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Can you believe that Kansas is number 8!</p>
<p>These are the rankings and average scores for each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia in the GMAC Insurance driving test.</p>
<p>Average: 83.7 percent</p>
<p>1. Oregon 90.6</p>
<p>2. Washington 88.2</p>
<p>3. Vermont 87.5</p>
<p>4. Idaho 87.3 (Tie)</p>
<p>4. South Dakota 87.3 (Tie)</p>
<p>6. Montana 87.2</p>
<p>7. Nebraska 87.0</p>
<p>8. Kansas 86.8</p>
<p>9. Iowa 86.7</p>
<p>10. Wyoming 86.2</p>
<p>11. Wisconsin 86.1</p>
<p>12. Minnesota 86.0</p>
<p>13. Alaska 85.8</p>
<p>14. California 85.6</p>
<p>15. Indiana 85.2 (Tie)</p>
<p>15. Colorado 85.2 (Tie)</p>
<p>17. Michigan 85.1</p>
<p>18. North Dakota 85.0</p>
<p>19. West Virginia 84.8</p>
<p>20. Utah 84.5</p>
<p>21. Mississippi 84.4</p>
<p>22. Illinois 84.3</p>
<p>23. Tennessee 84.2</p>
<p>24. Texas 84.0 (Tie)</p>
<p>24. Kentucky 84.0 (Tie)</p>
<p>26. New Hampshire 83.9</p>
<p>27. Arkansas 83.8</p>
<p>28. Virginia 83.5</p>
<p>29. Arizona 83.4</p>
<p>30. Georgia 83.2 (Tie)</p>
<p>30. Louisiana 83.2 (Tie)</p>
<p>32. North Carolina 83.1 (Tie)</p>
<p>32. Maine 83.1 (Tie)</p>
<p>34. Ohio 83.0</p>
<p>35. Oklahoma 82.9</p>
<p>36. Alabama 82.8</p>
<p>37. Missouri 82.7 (Tie)</p>
<p>37. Delaware 82.7 (Tie)</p>
<p>39. Nevada 82.6</p>
<p>40. South Carolina 82.3 (Tie)</p>
<p>40. Florida 82.3 (Tie)</p>
<p>42. Pennsylvania 82.1</p>
<p>43. New Mexico 81.5</p>
<p>44. Connecticut 80.9</p>
<p>45. Hawaii 80.7</p>
<p>46. Maryland 79.5</p>
<p>47. New York 79.4</p>
<p>48. New Jersey 78.6 (Tie)</p>
<p>48. Massachusetts 78.6 (Tie)</p>
<p>50. Washington, D.C. 76.5</p>
<p>51. Rhode Island 75.1</p>
<p>2006-05-30 11:07:45</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56563</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 23:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music.  --George Carlin

(If I remember correctly, I grabbed this off his website.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the music.  &#8211;George Carlin</p>
<p>(If I remember correctly, I grabbed this off his website.)</p>
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		<title>By: TRACY</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56561</link>
		<dc:creator>TRACY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 22:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TURNER

YES, I know what a con is.Asking for money in return for something worthless would be considered a CON.Why would you want money to do the next right thing anyway?If it&#039;s the right thing to do,JUST DO IT!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TURNER</p>
<p>YES, I know what a con is.Asking for money in return for something worthless would be considered a CON.Why would you want money to do the next right thing anyway?If it&#8217;s the right thing to do,JUST DO IT!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56559</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Phelps the only one who can get us out of Iraq?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Phelps the only one who can get us out of Iraq?</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56557</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, a LOT of it did sound like Carlin.  Just a few things that didn&#039;t strike me G-E-O-R-G-E-O-R-ish enough. :)

BTW, you&#039;re full of vim and vinegar today. Great!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, a LOT of it did sound like Carlin.  Just a few things that didn&#8217;t strike me G-E-O-R-G-E-O-R-ish enough. :)</p>
<p>BTW, you&#8217;re full of vim and vinegar today. Great!</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56555</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 21:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like they&#039;re going after NPR and PBS again to withdraw funding. :(
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like they&#8217;re going after NPR and PBS again to withdraw funding. :(</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56553</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok y&#039;all my bad for attributing to Carlin that which is not.  I still like it. so ;)~
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok y&#8217;all my bad for attributing to Carlin that which is not.  I still like it. so ;)~</p>
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		<title>By: Dingus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56551</link>
		<dc:creator>Dingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.georgecarlin.com/home/home.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.georgecarlin.com/home/home.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.georgecarlin.com/home/home.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.georgecarlin.com/home/home.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dingus</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56549</link>
		<dc:creator>Dingus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, How is fred phelps a leftist. Ralph Nader there&#039;s a leftist, one you said you voted for twice. yet you&#039;ve claimed to have never voted for a leftist?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, How is fred phelps a leftist. Ralph Nader there&#8217;s a leftist, one you said you voted for twice. yet you&#8217;ve claimed to have never voted for a leftist?</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56547</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 19:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, some of that sounds like Carlin, but some of it doesn&#039;t.  I&#039;m a long time Carlin fan.  Saw him do a concert here many years ago.  I still have his old albums (vinyl).  Wish I had something to play them on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, some of that sounds like Carlin, but some of it doesn&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m a long time Carlin fan.  Saw him do a concert here many years ago.  I still have his old albums (vinyl).  Wish I had something to play them on.</p>
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		<title>By: GMC70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56545</link>
		<dc:creator>GMC70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie:

Do some quick checking.  Carlin never wrote or said what you (and many others) attribute to him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie:</p>
<p>Do some quick checking.  Carlin never wrote or said what you (and many others) attribute to him.</p>
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		<title>By: gster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56543</link>
		<dc:creator>gster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is she related to Phelps? She has that embalmed look.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is she related to Phelps? She has that embalmed look.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56541</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re the Sergeant Schulz of the WeBlog.

Dayum CF, now THAT&#039;s funny!!

RD, does her looking like hell have anything to do with any, um, powder she might be sniffing? I mean, she does vote in Florida, where she is under investigation for voting fraud for voting in a district where she did not reside :) She is a real gop trooper practicing what the gop preaches. VOTER FRAUD.

I wonder if she bought that diet powder from Rush?

Nawwwww. I think he only does downers. BY THE HANDFULL!!!!!!

&quot;I said no no no no, I dont (sniff) no more, I&#039;m tired of waking up on the floor. No thank you please, it only makes me sneeeze, and then it makes it hard to find the door&quot;.

Or in her case, it makes it hard to find the truth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re the Sergeant Schulz of the WeBlog.</p>
<p>Dayum CF, now THAT&#8217;s funny!!</p>
<p>RD, does her looking like hell have anything to do with any, um, powder she might be sniffing? I mean, she does vote in Florida, where she is under investigation for voting fraud for voting in a district where she did not reside :) She is a real gop trooper practicing what the gop preaches. VOTER FRAUD.</p>
<p>I wonder if she bought that diet powder from Rush?</p>
<p>Nawwwww. I think he only does downers. BY THE HANDFULL!!!!!!</p>
<p>&#8220;I said no no no no, I dont (sniff) no more, I&#8217;m tired of waking up on the floor. No thank you please, it only makes me sneeeze, and then it makes it hard to find the door&#8221;.</p>
<p>Or in her case, it makes it hard to find the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56539</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE George Carlin!!!

YES, I&#039;M A BAD AMERICANby : George Carlin

I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am George Carlin.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican!

I&#039;m in touch with my feelings and I like it that way!

I think owning a gun doesn&#039;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to.

My heroes are John Wayne, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.

I don&#039;t hate the rich. I don&#039;t pity the poor.

I know wrestling is fake and I don&#039;t waste my time arguing about it.

I&#039;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn&#039;t wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven&#039;t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you! So, shut up already.

I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?

I think cops have the right to pull you over if you&#039;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

And, no, I don&#039;t mind having my face shown on my drivers license. I think it&#039;s good..... and I&#039;m proud that &quot;God&quot; is written on my money. I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#039;t want you ! deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

I believe that it doesn&#039;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.

And what is going on with gas prices... again?

If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I&#039;m a BAD American.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE George Carlin!!!</p>
<p>YES, I&#8217;M A BAD AMERICANby : George Carlin</p>
<p>I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am George Carlin.</p>
<p>I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in touch with my feelings and I like it that way!</p>
<p>I think owning a gun doesn&#8217;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.</p>
<p>I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.</p>
<p>I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.</p>
<p>I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to.</p>
<p>My heroes are John Wayne, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hate the rich. I don&#8217;t pity the poor.</p>
<p>I know wrestling is fake and I don&#8217;t waste my time arguing about it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn&#8217;t wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven&#8217;t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you! So, shut up already.</p>
<p>I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?</p>
<p>I think cops have the right to pull you over if you&#8217;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.</p>
<p>And, no, I don&#8217;t mind having my face shown on my drivers license. I think it&#8217;s good&#8230;.. and I&#8217;m proud that &#8220;God&#8221; is written on my money. I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#8217;t want you ! deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.</p>
<p>I believe that it doesn&#8217;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.</p>
<p>And what is going on with gas prices&#8230; again?</p>
<p>If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I&#8217;m a BAD American.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Williams</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56537</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;ll probably sell more books because of this.
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56534</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF, I&#039;m sure Horst hated spelling class, but is there anything he doesn&#039;t hate?  Himself included...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF, I&#8217;m sure Horst hated spelling class, but is there anything he doesn&#8217;t hate?  Himself included&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56533</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 16:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Coulter

*She criticized them for making a campaign advertisement for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry in 2004, and added: &quot;By the way, how do we know their husbands weren&#039;t planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they&#039;d better hurry up and appear in Playboy.&quot;*

Has Ann the Man taken a look in the mirror lately?  She looks like a poster girl for the last stages of anorexia.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Coulter</p>
<p>*She criticized them for making a campaign advertisement for Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry in 2004, and added: &#8220;By the way, how do we know their husbands weren&#8217;t planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they&#8217;d better hurry up and appear in Playboy.&#8221;*</p>
<p>Has Ann the Man taken a look in the mirror lately?  She looks like a poster girl for the last stages of anorexia.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56531</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Horst Wessel,

Well, this &#039;too stupid&#039; guy on the Left spots three grammatical and spelling errors in your two-line post.  Numb-nuts.  You&#039;re the Sergeant Schulz of the WeBlog.
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<p>Well, this &#8216;too stupid&#8217; guy on the Left spots three grammatical and spelling errors in your two-line post.  Numb-nuts.  You&#8217;re the Sergeant Schulz of the WeBlog.</p>
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56528</link>
		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of things to add to this thread since the Eagle can&#039;t seem to stomach posting a thread about the sick garbage both Rush Overdose and Ann Underwear are spewing about the wives of the 9/11 victims and the murder of civilians in Iraq by marines:


9/11 Widows, New York Papers, Respond to Coulter&#039;s &#039;Slander&#039;

NEW YORK Syndicated columnist and author Ann Coulter appeared on the Today show on Tuesday, promoting a new book. Host Matt Lauer asked her to explain certain remarks in the book aimed at activist 9/11 widows, including her charge that they were nothing but &quot;self obsessed&quot; and celebrity-seeking &quot;broads&quot; who are &quot;enjoying&quot; their husbands&#039; deaths &quot;so much.&quot;

After she defended these statements, he closed by saying, &quot;always fun to have you here.&quot;

Elsewhere in the book, Coulter refers to the widows as &quot;witches&quot; and asks, &quot;how do we know their husbands weren&#039;t planning to divorce these harpies&quot;?

In response, a group of five 9/11 widows, who may have been the prime targets of Coulter&#039;s remarks, issued a statement denouncing Coulter&#039;s views. The New York Daily News on Wednesday featured a smiling Coulter and this headline on its front page: COULTER THE CRUEL. One story inside was topped with &quot;Massive Chip on Her Coulter &quot; and another called her a &quot;a model of meanness.&quot;

The Star-Ledger in Newark, meanwhile, carried a story today with the headline &quot;For 9/11 widows, book adds insult to injury.&quot; It featured interviews with some of the widows. The New York Post headlined a story: &quot;RIGHTY WRITER COULTER HURLS NASTY GIBES AT 9/11 GALS.&quot;

The Post interviewed one of the widows, Mindy Kleinberg of East Brunswick, N.J. -- part of a group Coulter dubbed &quot;The Witches of East Brunswick.&quot; Kleinberg said, &quot;We are trying to make sure that nobody else walks in our footsteps. And if she [Coulter] thinks that&#039;s wrong, so be it.&quot; Newsday (Melville, N.Y.) carried an Associated Press story.

Universal syndicates Coulter&#039;s column. A spokesman there told E&amp;P it had no response to the latest firestorm.

The five widows&#039; statement is reprinted below (it first appeared at crooksandliars.com).

***

We did not choose to become widowed on September 11, 2001. The attack, which tore our families apart and destroyed our former lives, caused us to ask some serious questions regarding the systems that our country has in place to protect its citizens.

Through our constant research, we came to learn how the protocols were supposed to have worked. Thus, we asked for an independent commission to investigate the loopholes which obviously existed and allowed us to be so utterly vulnerable to terrorists. Our only motivation ever was to make our Nation safer. Could we learn from this tragedy so that it would not be repeated?

We are forced to respond to Ms. Coulter&#039;s accusations to set the record straight because we have been slandered.

Contrary to Ms. Coulter&#039;s statements, there was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive. There was no happiness in telling our children that their fathers were never coming home again. We adored these men and miss them every day.

It is in their honor and memory, that we will once again refocus the Nation&#039;s attention to the real issues at hand: our lack of security, leadership and progress in the five years since 9/11.

We are continuously reminded that we are still a nation at risk. Therefore, the following is a partial list of areas still desperately in need of attention and public outcry. We should continuously be holding the feet of our elected officials to the fire to fix these shortcomings.

1. Homeland Security Funding based on risk. Inattention to this area causes police officers, firefighters and other emergency/first responder personnel to be ill equipped in emergencies. Fixing this will save lives on the day of the next attack.

2. Intelligence Community Oversight. Without proper oversight, there exists no one joint, bicameral intelligence panel with power to both authorize and appropriate funding for intelligence activities. Without such funding we are unable to capitalize on all intelligence community resources and abilities to thwart potential terrorist attacks. Fixing this will save lives on the day of the next attack.

3. Transportation Security. There has been no concerted effort to harden mass transportation security. Our planes, buses, subways, and railways remain under-protected and highly vulnerable. These are all identifiable soft targets of potential terrorist attack. The terror attacks in Spain and London attest to this fact. Fixing our transportation systems may save lives on the day of the next attack.

4. Information Sharing among Intelligence Agencies. Information sharing among intelligence agencies has not improved since 9/11. The attacks on 9/11 could have been prevented had information been shared among intelligence agencies. On the day of the next attack, more lives may be saved if our intelligence agencies work together.

5. Loose Nukes. A concerted effort has not been made to secure the thousands of loose nukes scattered around the world ‚Äì particularly in the former Soviet Union. Securing these loose nukes could make it less likely for a terrorist group to use this method in an attack, thereby saving lives.

6. Security at Chemical Plants, Nuclear Plants, Ports. We must, as a nation, secure these known and identifiable soft targets of Terrorism. Doing so will save many lives.

7. Border Security. We continue to have porous borders and INS and Customs systems in shambles. We need a concerted effort to integrate our border security into the larger national security apparatus.

8. Civil Liberties Oversight Board. Given the President&#039;s NSA Surveillance Program and the re-instatement of the Patriot Act, this Nation is in dire need of a Civil Liberties Oversight Board to insure that a proper balance is found between national security versus the protection of our constitutional rights.

-- September 11th Advocates

Kristen BreitweiserPatty CasazzaMonica GabrielleMindy KleinbergLorie Van Auken

That is about as classy a come back as you will find. Kinda makes Ann Moron sound as stupid as she is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things to add to this thread since the Eagle can&#8217;t seem to stomach posting a thread about the sick garbage both Rush Overdose and Ann Underwear are spewing about the wives of the 9/11 victims and the murder of civilians in Iraq by marines:</p>
<p>9/11 Widows, New York Papers, Respond to Coulter&#8217;s &#8216;Slander&#8217;</p>
<p>NEW YORK Syndicated columnist and author Ann Coulter appeared on the Today show on Tuesday, promoting a new book. Host Matt Lauer asked her to explain certain remarks in the book aimed at activist 9/11 widows, including her charge that they were nothing but &#8220;self obsessed&#8221; and celebrity-seeking &#8220;broads&#8221; who are &#8220;enjoying&#8221; their husbands&#8217; deaths &#8220;so much.&#8221;</p>
<p>After she defended these statements, he closed by saying, &#8220;always fun to have you here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Elsewhere in the book, Coulter refers to the widows as &#8220;witches&#8221; and asks, &#8220;how do we know their husbands weren&#8217;t planning to divorce these harpies&#8221;?</p>
<p>In response, a group of five 9/11 widows, who may have been the prime targets of Coulter&#8217;s remarks, issued a statement denouncing Coulter&#8217;s views. The New York Daily News on Wednesday featured a smiling Coulter and this headline on its front page: COULTER THE CRUEL. One story inside was topped with &#8220;Massive Chip on Her Coulter &#8221; and another called her a &#8220;a model of meanness.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Star-Ledger in Newark, meanwhile, carried a story today with the headline &#8220;For 9/11 widows, book adds insult to injury.&#8221; It featured interviews with some of the widows. The New York Post headlined a story: &#8220;RIGHTY WRITER COULTER HURLS NASTY GIBES AT 9/11 GALS.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Post interviewed one of the widows, Mindy Kleinberg of East Brunswick, N.J. &#8212; part of a group Coulter dubbed &#8220;The Witches of East Brunswick.&#8221; Kleinberg said, &#8220;We are trying to make sure that nobody else walks in our footsteps. And if she [Coulter] thinks that&#8217;s wrong, so be it.&#8221; Newsday (Melville, N.Y.) carried an Associated Press story.</p>
<p>Universal syndicates Coulter&#8217;s column. A spokesman there told E&amp;P it had no response to the latest firestorm.</p>
<p>The five widows&#8217; statement is reprinted below (it first appeared at crooksandliars.com).</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>We did not choose to become widowed on September 11, 2001. The attack, which tore our families apart and destroyed our former lives, caused us to ask some serious questions regarding the systems that our country has in place to protect its citizens.</p>
<p>Through our constant research, we came to learn how the protocols were supposed to have worked. Thus, we asked for an independent commission to investigate the loopholes which obviously existed and allowed us to be so utterly vulnerable to terrorists. Our only motivation ever was to make our Nation safer. Could we learn from this tragedy so that it would not be repeated?</p>
<p>We are forced to respond to Ms. Coulter&#8217;s accusations to set the record straight because we have been slandered.</p>
<p>Contrary to Ms. Coulter&#8217;s statements, there was no joy in watching men that we loved burn alive. There was no happiness in telling our children that their fathers were never coming home again. We adored these men and miss them every day.</p>
<p>It is in their honor and memory, that we will once again refocus the Nation&#8217;s attention to the real issues at hand: our lack of security, leadership and progress in the five years since 9/11.</p>
<p>We are continuously reminded that we are still a nation at risk. Therefore, the following is a partial list of areas still desperately in need of attention and public outcry. We should continuously be holding the feet of our elected officials to the fire to fix these shortcomings.</p>
<p>1. Homeland Security Funding based on risk. Inattention to this area causes police officers, firefighters and other emergency/first responder personnel to be ill equipped in emergencies. Fixing this will save lives on the day of the next attack.</p>
<p>2. Intelligence Community Oversight. Without proper oversight, there exists no one joint, bicameral intelligence panel with power to both authorize and appropriate funding for intelligence activities. Without such funding we are unable to capitalize on all intelligence community resources and abilities to thwart potential terrorist attacks. Fixing this will save lives on the day of the next attack.</p>
<p>3. Transportation Security. There has been no concerted effort to harden mass transportation security. Our planes, buses, subways, and railways remain under-protected and highly vulnerable. These are all identifiable soft targets of potential terrorist attack. The terror attacks in Spain and London attest to this fact. Fixing our transportation systems may save lives on the day of the next attack.</p>
<p>4. Information Sharing among Intelligence Agencies. Information sharing among intelligence agencies has not improved since 9/11. The attacks on 9/11 could have been prevented had information been shared among intelligence agencies. On the day of the next attack, more lives may be saved if our intelligence agencies work together.</p>
<p>5. Loose Nukes. A concerted effort has not been made to secure the thousands of loose nukes scattered around the world ‚Äì particularly in the former Soviet Union. Securing these loose nukes could make it less likely for a terrorist group to use this method in an attack, thereby saving lives.</p>
<p>6. Security at Chemical Plants, Nuclear Plants, Ports. We must, as a nation, secure these known and identifiable soft targets of Terrorism. Doing so will save many lives.</p>
<p>7. Border Security. We continue to have porous borders and INS and Customs systems in shambles. We need a concerted effort to integrate our border security into the larger national security apparatus.</p>
<p>8. Civil Liberties Oversight Board. Given the President&#8217;s NSA Surveillance Program and the re-instatement of the Patriot Act, this Nation is in dire need of a Civil Liberties Oversight Board to insure that a proper balance is found between national security versus the protection of our constitutional rights.</p>
<p>&#8211; September 11th Advocates</p>
<p>Kristen BreitweiserPatty CasazzaMonica GabrielleMindy KleinbergLorie Van Auken</p>
<p>That is about as classy a come back as you will find. Kinda makes Ann Moron sound as stupid as she is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 06:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR,

Good luck with that &quot;leftwing&quot; unity! After CF opens the borders wide for wetbacks and provides them with affirmative action and everything else under the sun and after you take all of XXX&#039;s guns and Confederate flags away then come back and tell me how that goes. :)

V.L.R.B!!
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<p>Good luck with that &#8220;leftwing&#8221; unity! After CF opens the borders wide for wetbacks and provides them with affirmative action and everything else under the sun and after you take all of XXX&#8217;s guns and Confederate flags away then come back and tell me how that goes. :)</p>
<p>V.L.R.B!!</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/06/open_thread_1-4/#comment-56524</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 06:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another, and likely to be soon the most posted thread in the history of this blog, a war has raged among us on the left over just how far we go  in our posts.

This is illustrative. There has never been such a concern from the right as to civility.

There are divisions and hurt feelings among those on the left debating that thread. No doubt those on the right salivate over this. Divide and conquer.

Will Rogers said &quot;I am not a member of an organized political party. I&#039;m a democrat.&quot;

Or something like that.

The right should not mistake our arguements and disageements on that thread as a sign of weakness. The &quot;wounds&quot; are already healing. Rather they might be wary that we police our own. We infight and doing so make each other stronger.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another, and likely to be soon the most posted thread in the history of this blog, a war has raged among us on the left over just how far we go  in our posts.</p>
<p>This is illustrative. There has never been such a concern from the right as to civility.</p>
<p>There are divisions and hurt feelings among those on the left debating that thread. No doubt those on the right salivate over this. Divide and conquer.</p>
<p>Will Rogers said &#8220;I am not a member of an organized political party. I&#8217;m a democrat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or something like that.</p>
<p>The right should not mistake our arguements and disageements on that thread as a sign of weakness. The &#8220;wounds&#8221; are already healing. Rather they might be wary that we police our own. We infight and doing so make each other stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 06:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF,

That is a vile word and with people like feinstein, boxer, hillary, pelosi and janet reno on your side you might have it throw right back at you.

V.L.R.B!!!
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<p>That is a vile word and with people like feinstein, boxer, hillary, pelosi and janet reno on your side you might have it throw right back at you.</p>
<p>V.L.R.B!!!</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 06:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RD,

Oh, um...hi!

Uhhh, ummm, well, I, uhhh, I thought the editors would have yanked my comment by now.

Still, there is something fitting in the fact that your least favorite word so closely describes my least favorite person.
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<p>Oh, um&#8230;hi!</p>
<p>Uhhh, ummm, well, I, uhhh, I thought the editors would have yanked my comment by now.</p>
<p>Still, there is something fitting in the fact that your least favorite word so closely describes my least favorite person.</p>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 05:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, fantastic list!

I&#039;d add one:56: You know that everyone knows that blinkers are against the law.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, fantastic list!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d add one:56: You know that everyone knows that blinkers are against the law.</p>
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