Things got testy during the final days of the session

“Don’t you ever (expletive) call me out like that again, ever,” Rep. Brenda Landwehr (in photo), R-Wichita, scolded Rep. Jo Ann Pottorff, R-Wichita, during the final days of the session last week, Harris News Service reported. Landwehr was upset that Pottorff had earlier asked her during a caucus of House Republicans to explain what was happening with the slow budget negotiations with the Senate, which Landwehr apparently took as a personal criticism. “I don’t know what her problem was,” Landwehr later said. Pottorff responded: “I just wanted to know about the budget.” We’ll chalk it up to frayed nerves from too many late-night negotiations.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

78 Comments

  1. J M Walker
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 12:22 am | Permalink

    Apparently, Brenda is not much of a practicer of what she preaches, using foul language like that. Shame on you, Brenda. Now, go sit in a corner and repeat until you learn it, “I will not use foul language, I will vote for education the children of this state, and I will not stand in the way of cancer reasearch for women in this state.”

    After learning all that, please resign and move to Floriduh.

  2. Posted May 19, 2006 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    Landwehr is nothing more than a big bully.I wish I understood why her idiot constituents keep voting for her.Does she threaten to beat them up or something?

  3. sotheysaid
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    What makes you think she’s a big bully? Has she done something to you? I doubt you have ever met her or even talked to her. You are probably scared by most strong women. There is no excuse for foul language. I don’t know what actually was said or done but I do know that the press does not always print all of the details. The eagle must have been running out of ideas for their blogs. Get onto real news and issues.

  4. Dingus
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    Aren’t conservatives the first people to have a fit whenever a TV show, Song or some other medium says something objectionable? I wonder what the religious church goers who elected her would think of Brenda’s potty mouth?

  5. heartlander
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 4:47 am | Permalink

    What was the expletive? There is no law prohibiting fidelitous-to-the-facts reporting. Furthermore, a lot of “decent” reporting venues put a starting letter in their reports. Did the expletive begin with an “f” perchance?

    Okay, you bloggers, come up with your alternative suggestions as to what the expletive was.

  6. Joe Blow
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 6:08 am | Permalink

    This was in “the news” a week ago. Eagle blog on Fridays must be victim of the “Friday flu” over at the Eagle!

  7. Joe Williams
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 6:24 am | Permalink

    Did you know that Brenda Landwehr and Dee Stuart are going to debate on KPTS at 8:00pm.

    Going to be lots of fun. No matter how bad Brenda is, Dee is even worse and it’s going to be fun to see two bombthrowers who want nothing but attention and power, going at it.

  8. TRACY
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 7:46 am | Permalink

    Alright, the main event.A public catfight!!MEOW

  9. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 8:33 am | Permalink

    Smackdown. My money is on Dee for content but on Brenda for pure nastyness.

    Why is Brenda so grumpy? It was really hard to be a conservative whor..er…pimp in the legislature this year. Were it not for the gun nuts, there would have been no joy in mudslingingville this year.

    No republican takeover of the courts, no shutting down of public schools, no gay bashing bills, no special session (yet), no “let’s kill the mexicans” bills passed, no getting to blame the gov for school finance.

    … and (oh happy day) NO TABOR, ms hissyfit’s favorite pet project. Even her statewide bandwagon revival tour of the hinterlands couldnt get her pet TABOR passed.

    And then there was that little, tiny, minor thing about gambling. You know, the one where your CONSERVATIVE legislators executed their most difficult gymnastic move to date. Accepting bucketloads of cash from gambling interests while denying the good folks in Wichita the right to a vote on casinos.

    And keeping the people of Kansas from chosing, all the while stuffing their pockets with, omg, GAMBLING MONEY.

    Hell, you dooda residents even have a candidate for lite gov who makes HER LIVING from gambling, yet votes against those who are competition. Then she denies you all the right to vote on a casino, and takes money from established gambling interests.

    Only in the land of wingnuttia does such nonsense prevail.

    And now? Brenda Hissyfit uses the “f” word when a fellow legislator askes a legitimate question, about the BUDGET of all things? You know, the most important job you send hissy to Topeka for?

    God forbid god’s own state hissyfit legislator might have to be ACCOUNTABLE for her poor performance on your behalf this year.

    Yep, I think that must account for ms. hissyfit’s most recent fit. Or at least the most recently reported fit. Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of legislators?

  10. Todd
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    This is what happens when you send a bunch of tards to Topeka. Trouble is, nobody but a tard wants the job.

  11. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    But of course, Brenda using the “f” word actually puts her in the mainstream of conservative republican christian values.

    Given the swearing fit Doug Mays had earlier this year, and given Cheney’s use of the “f” word on the u.s. senate floor, Brenda swearing at a fellow legislator seems to be mearly business as usual for those god fearing conservatives.

    The “f” word as in “family” values for conservatives.

    And these are the same folks who say gays are destroying our moral fiber, Mexicans are destroying our economy, and schools just need more religion. All the while stuffing their pockets with gambling money.

    Trifecta of corruption and hypocricy.

    NO SWEARING LEGISLATORS!!!!!!!!!

    NO INCUMBENTS!!!! NO WINGNUTS!!!!

  12. J M Walker
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    How ’bout a WE contest with a fill-in-the-blank of Brenda’s verboten sentence?

    ““Don’t you ever (whoremoanally) call me out like that again, ever,”

    “Don’t you ever (beyaatchly) call me out like that again, ever,”

    “Don’t you ever (ignorantiously) call me out like that again, ever,”

    “Don’t you ever (conservatively) call me out like that again, ever,”

    “Don’t you ever (intercourseing) call me out like that again, ever,”

    The winner gets to spend a day calling Brenda out.

  13. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 8:53 am | Permalink

    Where oh where is the WE values pimp on this issue? Will he dare to “call out” one of his very own “values gurus” on her potty mouth?

    What might the “values voters” say through the v-boy, since he is the only one in the state who can read their minds and speak for them?

    Will “values boy” have to clear his criticism with terry and joe and maybe even fred before publishing? And now brenda must approve too, ’cause ya know, we cant have him promoting conservative values without the three horsemen of hate giving their blessings. In appropriate bad language of course.

    Do you think he might use the “f” word too, since it is such a favorite term of such high and mighty “values voters” favorites like Doug Mays, Dick Cheyne, and now Brenda “hissyfit” Landwehr?

    Come on values boy, we are waiting for your guru like pronouncements here. Defend your conservatives with the “f” word, show that you know how to use it properly in context, and YOU TOO could be a christian conservative.

    Heheh. The silence from “values boy” will be deafening. It is hard to get approval from terry, joe, brenda, fred, et al before publishing.

    How’s that “values boy” working out for this fair and balanced wingnut rag? Surely you must be drawing new readers from fux news. They wouldnt be able to tell the difference, now would they?

  14. Outlander
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:01 am | Permalink

    Wow! Did someone get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? Did that word offend you kfg? I doubt it.

    No, I don’t like to see someone let a swear word slip. It is weakness. I do it myself. Do you expect conservatives not to be human?

    I don’t see you taking your hero CF to task for posting much worse here with intent to shock.

  15. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    Big difference outie. CF is NOT a hypocrit. He is not ashamed of who is really is. Is susan? Or brenda?

    Have they garnered all those conservative “values” votes by lying about who THEY are? Do you and your conservative taliban buddies feel betrayed by the “in your face” hypocracy of those who campaigned so piously in your churches?

    CF is consistant, he is the same person on the outside as he is on the inside. A little lesson your VALUES candidates could learn.

    CF makes no exuses for his postings, he does not claim to be something he is not. He is honest and he doesnt pretend to hold the moral high ground for others. In otherwords, he is not a hypocrit, another lesson your VALUES folks should take to heart.

    If that is too much trouble for the conservatives, I mean to actually walk their talk, then by all means, PLEASE have the conservatives continue to say one thing and do another. We are watching.

    PLEASE continue to show us how when you all say one thing and do another, time after time, it is just being human.

    PLEASE continue to show us how GAYS are the ones destroying decency in the state.

    PUL-EASE.

  16. CF
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:19 am | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl,

    Beat me to the punch! Couldn’t have said it better myself. Gotta get up purty dang early to out-quick that ksfarmgrrl.

    Outlander,

    Fuckin’-A right you don’t. CF is a moderately big boy who takes care o’ hisself. More to the point, CF encourages the liberal usage of such terms by everyone, rather than acting as a bluenosed hypocrite when somebody else speaks as he himself does.

    The F-word: if it’s good enough for a ‘man’ like Dick Cheney to use on the floor of the Senate, it’s good enough for CF. As for Brenda Landwehr, is there a bigger cooze in the Kansas Legislature?

    Oh, wait, there’s Kay O’Connor. My bad.

  17. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    CF, dont forget Bonnie “people have a right to vote on gays but not on gambling” Huy.

    You remember bonbon, the lone vote in the house AGAINST raising the age of marriage over 14? An older man marrying a nearly pre-pubecent teen is ok, but two adults in a consenting relationship is NOT ok? That bonbon?

    Yeah, I thought you remembered her. The QUEEN of wingnuttia.

  18. CF
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:32 am | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl,

    No, oddly enough, my mind had blocked out that part of the debate leading up to the vote. Wingnut-induced traumatic brain injury and all.

    It also seems to me that Kay any O’Connor weighed in as to how she didn’t see the harm in a man in his 20’s marrying a 14 year-old, or that nobody had PROVEN any such harms.

    While there’s no lack of batshit crazy fundos in the Kansas Legislature, what makes the women so much more colorful than the men?

  19. CF
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:33 am | Permalink

    Weird. Where’d that ‘any’ in the second paragraph come from? Alzheimers?

  20. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    CF, I am SHOCKED. That kind of slip o’ the tongue is usually reserved for fundamentalists being human.

  21. J M Walker
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:59 am | Permalink

    Besides not being afraid to stand up for his beliefs, CF carries a really big bass.

  22. sotheysaid
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    KSFG,

    Wow you did get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I have gone back through several newspapers for the last several years and I cannot find anywhere in the articles that showed Brenda was putting herself on any high moral pedestal as you talked about. If you have something that shows this it would be nice for you to share it with us. Or is this your usual rant and rave without the facts stuff? It is easy to do that and anyone can but it is a lot harder to deal with the facts (which you never seem to have). You might want to take the time to look into the things you talk about. I know it will take you some time but you might just get a little educated. I am not saying that what Brenda said or did was right but then we all have to take a look in the mirror now and then before we cities others so easily. Are you saying that you are perfect? Are you saying that you are always professional? Are you saying that you do not do things you will regret later? If your answer to these questions is yes then I guess you have a right to expect Brenda to be perfect. But if you cannot answer yes to all of the questions then you should not expect others to be so perfect. At least Brenda is willing to take a stand and a position on the issues publicly even when she knows that it is not popular or what the people want to hear. One of the things that I have head about Brenda is that you will always know where you stand with her because she is honest and well let you where she is coming from. You do not have to worry about her flip flopping on issues or her beliefs. How many elected officials can say that? Not very many. So before you get so high and mighty why not try walking in another’s shoes and take a look in the mirror.

  23. Nathan
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Gues what people, I swear sometimes. I used to prolifically swear too when I was on active duty in the Marines.

    You know what? I decided to make an effort to change.

    It took me about a year to finally stop swearing so much and even today when I get really upset sometimes a swear word will come out.

    I am not perfect. I don’t claim to be.

    You know what else? I think swearing is bad, unprofessional, and a very weak way of communicating.

    I try my best not to do it and when I hear others doing it I call them out on it too.

    Am I a hypocrite? Nope.

    Unfortunately for you liberals who are so quick to throw around that word, you seem to have no understanding of the definition.

    Being a hypocrite is professing something that you do not hold to.

    I profess that swearing is bad, wrong, and should not be done. I still mess up and do it rarely.

    That doesn’t make me a hypocrite, that makes me a human who makes mistakes.

    Now if I swore all the time with no regard and then still went out saying it is wrong I would be a hypocrite.

    So, Brenda messed up and swore. Yeah it was vulgar, uncalled for, and should not have been done.

    This is the first time I have ever heard of her swearing.

    I think we can hold off on the crucifixtion for now…

  24. Nathan
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Of course as usual though, it is some type of victory for the liberals whenever they can call out someone on the right for swearing just so they can rob their faces in it.

    At least we are trying to be good and decent.

    If our messing up gives you cause to celebrate then have fun.

  25. Ben Huie
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    The thing is Nathan that she and many others on the ‘right’ choose to denegrate others for using such language and then choose to use such language themselves. What right do they have to denegrate others for what they choose to do themselves?

  26. Nathan
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Ben,

    Did you even read what I wrote?

  27. Ben Huie
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Yes, I did. My point is that if you choose to use foul language you have no right to denegrate others who do the same thing.

  28. TRACY
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    Alright, here it is.The left is calling out the right for calling out the left for calling out what’s her name.Got it? Okay.

  29. gster
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Tracy-

    Your version definately makes more sense!

  30. Nathan
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    Ben,

    So if I swear very rarely it is your opinion that I can no longer ever say that sweearing is wrong?

  31. Brian
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    So if I murder or steal occasionally I can’t claim it’s wrong?

    Somehow perspective on the matter of degree has been lost.

  32. Ben Huie
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Nathan – since you choose to swear then you cannot consider yourself to be morally superior to others who choose to swear.

  33. Nathan
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    I never claimed to be morally superior.

    There is a huge difference between killing someone and swearing.

    If you want to get that extreme then you have to be willing to take it all the way Ben!

    If you ever do anything contrary to the law then you can no longer support the law… anarchy?

    Give me a break.

    I choose to try my hardest to not swear and present myself as a reputable person.

    I mess up.

    I suppose because I mess up here and there I should just throw in the towel and just say forget it?

    You are being, quite frankly, absurd.

  34. TRACY
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    Nathan, I commend you for striving for spiritual growth. We all know that spiritual and religious perfection is, by definition, impossible.

  35. Nathan
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    So what are you saying Tracy?

    My claim was never to acheive perfection.

  36. TRACY
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Nathan, Nathan.I was being very nice and complimenting you.You claim growth, not perfection.I agree, that is what religion’s teachings should motivate us do.

  37. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    From Brenda Landwehr’s web site. I think most politicians try to present themselves in the most positive light.

    Highlights* Elected State Representative for 91st District in 1994

    * 91st District born and raised as well as a 25 year Homeowner in the district

    * Wichita North High Graduate — Class of 1973

    * Past Cub Scout Chairman and Little League Coach

    * Active member of Christ the King Church

    * Past President of Christ The King School Board

    * Married to David P. Landwehr — 25 years

    * Three Sons – David Lee Landwehr 24, Mark Landwehr 22 and John deceased

    * Bussiness owner since 1977

    * Currently – Owner with my Husband David of LT Care Solutions, Inc.

    * Member Comcare Mental Health Advisory Board* Member Salvation Army Foster Care Advisory Board

    webpage here:

    http://www.brendalandwehr.org/default.asp?nc=4424&id=33

  38. sotheysaid
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 4:49 pm | Permalink

    So Darwin what are you trying to tell us? What is on her web-site that is bad? I did not see anything you listed as being out of line. The list told about her family, activities etc. so what is your point? Are you upset because she is willing to takes her time and get involved with children put in foster care? Does it upset you that she takes her time to be interested in people with mental health issues? Which by the way most people just ignore? Your list shows that she has lost a child. So what is that suppose to tell us about her? That perhaps she understands more than you want to give her credit for?

    Nathan I think you said it well. She made a mistake so everyone needs to just get over it.Tracy you made a very fine point also. None of us are perfect and if we expect everyone that is willing to put themselves out in the public to be perfect we should be ashamed of ourselves. You liberals just want to beat a person down whenever you can find some little something to pick on. The Eagle should be ashamed of them selves to even consider printing it. It is interesting how the liberals and the Eagle are not pointing out how many of the democrats are being convicted for wrong doing but let a woman that is considered conservative make a mistake and boy is that ever news.

    Once again Nathan and Tracy good job on making some fine points. It is nice to see others are not perfect and willing to admit it.

  39. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    STS -These are the highlights in her biography that she wishes to emphasize. I was not making a value judgement about them.

    Her effors to not fund the programs she claims to support say much more about her, than does her claims about herself. You know the old “actions speak louder than words” saying.

  40. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    “efforts”

  41. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Heheh. Oh but you values voters have such superior moral authority that you can tell others how to live, but you cant run your own lives perfectly? I am shocked, shocked I say to hear you admit you are not perfect.

    Heheh. But you try hard. Heheh. Try in one hand and spit in the other and see which one gets full first. I am sure Clinton was TRYING to tell the truth.

    I dont claim to be morally superior enough to judge your relationships or who YOU sleep with. I dont claim to have a hot line to god about which families count and which are scourges on society. I dont claim that magic ability to know what god thinks.

    I dont use my so called values to discriminate, deprive kansans of equal protection under the law, and write hate into the kansas constitution as a family value.

    If you just commit adultry once and a while, is it ok? IF you just have gay sex once in a while is it ok? I mean, we all make mistakes right?

    Brenda is a hypocrit of the highest order. Holy roller who rolls in the mud with the best of them. You should have heard her in topeka on the hate amendment.

    But then ruby, or sts or ybs or whatever nic you are using today, you probably agree that such a champion of moral piety is a fit judge of which relationships are legal and which are not.

    Not to mention the gambling money hypocrisy. Didnt see any refutation of that from the wingnut crowd now did we? Maybe your conservative republican pious legislators need to consider the spirit of ethics as well as the appearance of impropriety.

    Clinton just made a mistake. Get over it. And he only did it once in a while. Besides, he was TRYING to be good. I mean, he went to church and loved the scouts and all.

    IOKIYAAR

  42. Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    As matter of fact, sotheysaid, I have been a party to some of Ms. Landwehr’s bullying attempts…and I can prove it.Can you?

  43. J M Walker
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    Will the real Brenda please stand up: http://www.pitch.com/Issues/2005-12-08/news/janovy.html

  44. XXX
    Posted May 19, 2006 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

    Walker, I read the link. Please tell me it’s a parody.

  45. Posted May 20, 2006 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    Who wrote that?Those four were captured perfectly.

  46. Dingus
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    It sounds like a spoof, but I wouldn’t be suprised it was true?

  47. heartlander
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 1:13 am | Permalink

    I noticed in sotheysaid’s posting above, and confirmed in Mrs. Landwehrs websitewww.brendalandwehr.org/

    that Mrs. Landwehr is semi-educated, with only a high school diploma. It’s not like she is an elder stateswoman who was born during the Great Depression. She was born ca. 1955 and graduated in 1973, when any young woman could pursue a college degree.

    What are we to consider from this? Did she come from a poor family? Did her parents denigrate higher education for women? Or was it inconceivable to them? These are important questions, because poorly educated people tend to think that other people do not need to be well educated. They’re wrong, but they cannot comprehend that their perspective is defective.

  48. sotheysaid
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    So mrcontroversy it is time to put up or shut up. I don’t know what kind of bullying you think you can prove but knock yourself out. But of course you are probably all talk and nothing to back it up.

  49. J R
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 1:21 am | Permalink

    Mr C has proved himself here “so”

    You have not.

  50. J R
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 1:29 am | Permalink

    What say you “sotheysaid”?

    And just how many nics do you have?

  51. Nathan
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 2:51 am | Permalink

    Leave it to the self appointed “king of determining the validity of posters” (JR) to come to the rescue!

  52. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    Huh? Mr. Controversy a bully?

    Heheheh. That is the one word I would NOT use to describe him. His posts are always civil, if not deadly funny. Perhaps THAT is what hurts for the humor impaired.

    heheheheh. Mr.C calls it correctly and HE is the bully? Wow, is THAT ever the pot calling the kettle black. The kansas republicans have bullying down to a fine art.

    Must be getting lessons from bushco crime family.

  53. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    Seems like a LOT of that humor impairment among the righties these days. But then, they have little to smile about, what with the multiple FAILURES of the republican controlled kansas legislature this year.

    It is HARD to be a republican pimp this year, sts. We feel sorry for you, having to put up with the mean ol’ truth all the time. The “real” news (heheh) isnt much better for the cons or the r’s these days, in kansas or in washington.

    Wait. What’s that? I think it is the sound of a thousand chickens coming home to roost. Better get your shovels ruby, sts, ybs, etc.

    It’s piling up high and deep right now.

  54. J M Walker
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    XXX,I have no idea if it is a parody, however, it was good for a laugh, wasn’t it? On the slim chance it is true, there be a problem right here in river city . . . well, other than the other ones we got.

  55. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 9:23 am | Permalink

    Landwehr threatened to bring KU staff before the legislature, but never did to my knowledge.

    Here’s a link to a LJWorld article at the time:

    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/nov/30/mirecki_apology_doesnt_appease_critics/?evolution

  56. sotheysaid
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 5:03 pm | Permalink

    So MrC you were not really bullied by her. You are either feeling guilty about something or you are the professor that misled and lied to the university or the chancellor. You just do not like to face the truth and it appeared that in the article she was just stating facts and her opinion.

    Her comments in the article were:

    “The integrity of university is in question right now,” said Rep. Brenda Landwehr, R-Wichita, and vice-chairwoman of the House appropriations committee. “He’s only apologizing for getting caught. He’s not apologizing for his behavior.”Landwehr said she wants Mirecki and KU Chancellor Robert Hemenway to appear before the appropriations committee to answer questions about the course.“I don’t want to make a judgment without giving an opportunity for these individuals to respond to us,” she said.It looks like she was being fair by giving Mirecki and the Chancellor a chance to speak. So where is the bullying? That’s right there is none. It appears that you have a hard time with people telling it how it is. Just learn to deal with the truth. That’s right liberal can’t handle the truth. LOL

  57. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted May 20, 2006 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    This is an interesting section in the article:___________________________________“He’s only apologizing for getting caught. He’s not apologizing for his behavior.”Landwehr said she wants Mirecki and KU Chancellor Robert Hemenway to appear before the appropriations committee to answer questions about the course.“I don’t want to make a judgment without giving an opportunity for these individuals to respond to us,” she said.__________________________________

    Didn’t her earlier comments of him not making a real apology signify that she had made a judgement about him??? Pretty disingenuous if you ask me.

    Giving them a chance to speak in front of the appropriations committee — clearly the message is: “piss me off and forget getting your money.”

    STS,We will give you extra points for the gymnastic feats you have exerted to apologize for Brenda.

  58. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    heheh

    “So MrC you were not really bullied by her.”

    Starting a post in that way is a typical nathan move. I wonder if he is ghost writing or sts is just reading from the same talking points.

    Hee hee DD. I give a big 9.5 for difficulty in executing those gymnastics moves. Should give the extra .5 for creativity. But then nobody but ruby, with her 43 campaigns, all won, has a perfect political track record.

  59. sotheysaid
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 10:44 am | Permalink

    Darwin, I have not attempted to apologize for Brenda’s comments or remarks. I was only questioning MRC’s remarks that he has been bullied by Brenda. My earlier comments were that Brenda was wrong for saying what she did. If people are so perfect them self than they should be calling or emailing her to let her know how they feel. I noticed on her web-site that was published by someone that she has a contact number and the ability to email her. I did email her and got back a nice reply and she even offered to further discuss my concerns by asking that I call her if I wanted to discuss the issue further. It is easy to bash someone when you do not have to actually face the person you are talking about which is what occurs in blogs. Kansas has a citizen legislature so that we can get everyday people to represent us. I personally think that is good because I do not want to have career representatives. Time to move on to some new topics this one is getting stale. See ya!

  60. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    …and still no apology or mention of her filling her pockets with filthy gambling money, all the while pressuring your local government not to allow a vote on casinos?

    I guess brenda hasnt given you your talking points on that subject yet. Ya better email her and ask her QUICK.

    Just a small question. When she gives you the talking points, do you have to edit out many swear words before posting here?

    Enquiring minds really want to know…

  61. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 10:57 am | Permalink

    Isnt it funny when the right gets their righteous hinneys kicked, the thread, only two days old, suddenly becomes stale?

    Must be waiting for brenda to come home from church before issuing talking points.

  62. David
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Her husband is a bigger bully. They must be into dominatrix.

  63. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    I’ve emailed Brenda, too. I’ve never gotten a response from her – my questions are things like “in your lexicon, is there such thing as useful taxation?”

    It could be that she knows I am not one of her constituents – the lady she was cussing out in this thread, Jo Ann Pottorff, is my representative.

    I will email Jo Ann and suggest to her that when Brenda acts the way she did here in this story — it may be an indication she was on the right track.

    If there was a way for Wichita/Sedgwick County representatives to achieve some degree of unification, it would be possible for Wichita to have a greater influence in what happens in Topeka. With marginal & extremist legislators like Landwehr, that will never happen.

    And because of that STS, you lose too. Too bad you can’t see it.

  64. Nathan
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Youu mean like left-wing, liberal, extremist Judith Loganbill from the 86th district?

    Don’t pretend like it is only people from the Republican side that are polarizing wack jobs…

  65. sotheysaid
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Nathan, you have that one right. Judy has been against most of the things that all of Wichita legislators have gotten together on. But remember you are not to pick on the poor little liberals that might just leave the room and cry, oh that’s right Judy did just that awhile back but that was ok because she is a liberal.

    KFG, I am not sure what you mean by filthy gambling money filling her pockets. Do you call it that because you are opposed to gambling? I watched her debate with Dee Stuart on KPTS Friday and Brenda was clear about gambling not being a moral issue for her at all. She mad some pretty good points on the cost of gambling and that she was opposed because of the negative costs. She also pointed out that a lot of those wanting to have a monopoly on gambling were giving much more to candidates than those opposed. She said that in her 12 years she had receive about $3,500 when on the other side in the last elections the guy that ran against Carolyn McGinn got $8,000 for his one campaign. I had seen some numbers like that before in the WE and I think it is something we should consider. Should candidates be limited to how much money they receive from type of business or persons? Maybe that would shine more light on where the money comes from. It was also interesting to hear the discussion between the two on the issue of the state owning a casino. That does not get talked about very much. I would have liked to have heard them continue the discussion a little further. It was pretty informational.

  66. Posted May 21, 2006 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    sts,This ain’t dodgeball, so quit trying to evade my point.She tried to bully me, but I’m not like most so-called “liberals”; I bully back.I haven’t been able to find the tape from 2000 from when she tried to go after me on the air, but I do have a 2004 video of her trying to bait another on air host here.Like I said, give me a day or so to pull it from the archives, and I’ll show you my proof.Where’s yours?

  67. sotheysaid
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

    MRC, I am not the one needing to prove anything. You are the one that said you had been bullied by her not me. So I shall wait until you find your information.

  68. sotheysaid
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    MRC, you can always show the one you have and then if it shows that she is a bully then when you find the other one showing that she was a bully to you then we can talk about that. I just have not seen this in the press about her.

  69. Posted May 21, 2006 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    I never said I was bullied by her.I just said she tried.E-mail me, and let’s pick a Tuesday or Wednesday (afternoon or evening) you can come by my office and see the video.

  70. sotheysaid
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

    What is your proof that her husband is a bully? Do you have any proof that she has been a bully to you? If yes on either one of these then let’s see it. At least MRC is trying to find his so what have you got?

  71. Posted May 21, 2006 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

    You’re right, sts. You haven’t seen this in the “press”…and if you know me–and where I work–you know why.

  72. sotheysaid
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    MRC, here is what you previously said:

    As matter of fact, sotheysaid, I have been a party to some of Ms. Landwehr’s bullying attempts…and I can prove it.Can you?Posted by: mrcontroversy | May 19, 2006 at 09:46 PM

    This is where I got the idea that you s aid she had bullied you. I do not know who you are. Just tell us what the source is and what it says. That will be sufficient.

  73. Nathan
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 9:41 pm | Permalink

    Wonderful,

    I am a bully too. It is politics. What do you call what the whiney liberals are doing to Bush?

    Sigh…

  74. J R
    Posted May 21, 2006 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

    Hmmmmmm

    9:37…..9:41

  75. mrcontroversy
    Posted May 22, 2006 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    sts:As I keep telling you…its on video, it’s not a written source.Welcome to the 21st Century.In the immortal words of the Fabulous Sports Babe, “If you’d like a written transcript of this broadcast… get out a pen and paper and write the damn thing down!”

  76. Willie Horton
    Posted May 22, 2006 at 1:52 am | Permalink

    “What do you call what the whiney liberals are doing to Bush?”

    Telling the truth.

  77. Willie Horton
    Posted May 22, 2006 at 1:56 am | Permalink

    “Don’t pretend like it is only people from the Republican side that are polarizing wack jobs…”

    Your saying there are polarizing wack jobs from the right? The truth does not seem to fit you too well, now does it?

  78. Nathan
    Posted May 22, 2006 at 3:56 am | Permalink

    Willie, where have I lied?