Something about Mary

Mary Cheney has silently taken heat from gay activists for not speaking out on gay issues and from the religious right for, well, being gay. Now she is talking, with a new book, “Now It’s My Turn: A Daughter’s Chronicle of Political Life,” and the accompanying publicity interviews. But reviews report that “My Turn” is mostly a political insider book and doesn’t spend much time on what people are most interested in: What it’s like being the lesbian daughter of a vice president whose party and administration use homosexuality as a wedge issue to fire up their base. Cheney does complain (belatedly, gay activists will argue) about GOP efforts to “write discrimination into the Constitution,” calling a marriage amendment a “gross affront to gays and lesbians everywhere” (her father also publicly opposes a federal amendment). But, according to reviewers, Cheney remains a loyal daughter who is careful about what she says.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

40 Comments

  1. writerdog
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 2:36 am | Permalink

    Mary is a member of a Political family. It should not be a surprise that she would hold back. And the fact that her dad is going against the administration’s stance on Gay marriage. That is the only thing that Cheney has done then that I think go of him for. Ok and shooting a lawyer LoL.

  2. TRACY
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 5:52 am | Permalink

    I think most guys are more interested in the details of her sex life.

  3. Joe Williams
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 6:41 am | Permalink

    Do people really read books from people? I remember Ed Kennedy coming out with a book and the sales numbers were like little over 1,000 copies.

    Everybody wants to write their autobiography (they actually don’t really write it, somebody else does). I have a hard time believing that they sale all that much.

    How many CEO, semi-celebrities, or 15-minutes of fame people have people write a book about them? Thousands and what do they expect out of it? Do they want to tell their side of the story or is it just trying to make some money. I bet most are bombs and don’t sell at all. I have no idea why publishers even take a chance.

  4. writerdog
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    Tracy I am offended, the true hurts! It was always a non-issue for me. Mary Cheney being homo-sexual that is. Now if Dick and G.W. came out…. BROKEBACK WHITE HOUSE the movie!

  5. gster
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 9:28 am | Permalink

    Writerdog- We’re already watching “Broke Whitehouse”.

  6. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    heheh gster

  7. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    I think mary is a chip off the ol’ block. Show me the money must be the cheney family motto. Certainly she cares nothing for her fellow queers. If she did, she would have spoken out when it mattered, not safely after the fact.

    Her shameful conduct of silence should drive home the point that gays are just like eveyone else.

    Cowards come in pink and lavender, not just yellow.

    Chip off the ol’ block. Money talks and doing the right thing walks. She should be on the RNC.

  8. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 10:28 am | Permalink

    Vichy queers. Do you know the joke about “what is the difference between a lesbian and a dyke?”

    About thirty thousand dollars a year!

  9. Rage
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    It does seem a bit much. I guess she figures being Mary Cheney–with all the perks, IF she cooperates–is quite enough freedom for her. A gilded cage.

    I miss Patti and Ron Jr.!

  10. TRACY
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    What makes you think she ISN’T on the RNC?

  11. TRACY
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    And where’s little Amy Carter?

  12. XXX
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Tracy, that’s a good question. She’s married and had a son in 1999. She doesn’t grant interviews or allow photo’s. A google search doesn’t find much current about her.

  13. Lady Liberty
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 8:27 pm | Permalink

    She is gay! GET OVER IT! By doing this to her sick rich father, she has hurt him in ways his sick moral character and loads of money can’t stop her! She is ok! Leave her be!

  14. Posted May 10, 2006 at 9:55 pm | Permalink

    She’s a lesbian and she likes Bush.

    Hmmm . . . think about that for a minute.

    Question–you know why you never see Bush on horseback?

    Answer–Simple. You can’t get one horse’s ass on top of another.

  15. J R
    Posted May 10, 2006 at 10:24 pm | Permalink

    Well let’s see……

    Mary Cheney is part of an oppressed minority. Her father serves an administration that makes oppressing that minority a matter of principle.

    The term sell-out is probably applicable to Mary Cheney.

  16. TRACY
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    XXX—HILARIOUS

  17. Nathan
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    Real nice KFG,

    If they are not in your face I’m gay like you then damn them?

  18. J R
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Sort of like some Christians maybe. If you are not in others faces about your faith you aint a “true believer”.

    Fun how hypocricy works both ways.

  19. Jed
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    Nathan,It’s only been since gays started being “in your face” that they got any rights at all! Until recently, most pretended to be straight for fear that you good christians would come beat them up or kill them if you found out, and they had plenty of reason to fear! I’ve lost too many friends to that form of christian love!Except in rare cases, I don’t believe in outing anyone, but I admire the courage it’s taken for those “in-your-face-gays” to live openly, and I recognize the progress that they’ve achieved for all gay people by doing so. You claim to be a marine, which is supposedly all about courage. Maybe you ought to recognize that courage and be a bit more accepting!

  20. Nathan
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

    JR,

    Please show me where it has been said that if you are not in peoples faces you are not a true believer?

    I don’t recall that ever being said.

    Do you always have to make things up?

  21. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    It was so nice here while nathan was gone.

  22. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    It must be really hard for an in your face christian and bush buttboy to realize that gay marriage now has higher approval ratings than preznit bush.

    Just ask me to post the link, come on, you can do it….

  23. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

    I cant wait for buttboy to ask any questions

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12726180/site/newsweek/

  24. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

    …and since he apparantly cant do research…

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12726180/site/newsweek/

  25. Nathan
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    Thats lovely KFG, not what I am talking about though.

    I was wondering why you are so quick to bash your fellow homosexuals simply because they are not pushing what you consider to be the agenda?

  26. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 4:56 pm | Permalink

    Hmmm, and it seems nathan also doesnt realize this:

    “Fifty percent said Democrats came closer than Republicans to sharing their moral values, compared with 37 percent who said Republicans shared their values.

    A majority said Republican members of Congress were more likely to be financially corrupt than Democratic members of Congress, suggesting that Democrats may be making headway in their efforts to portray Republicans as having created a “culture of corruption” in Washington.

    By better than two to one, Democrats were seen as having more new ideas than Republicans.”

  27. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    It must be really hard to be a bush pimp out here. Rats like nathan though are going down with the uss preznit.

  28. Nathan
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    Ok Mrs. Random lady…

    Care to address the actual topic now?

  29. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    not with you jackass. if you are so obtuse to say bush never lied, there is NO TOPIC with you.

  30. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 5:11 pm | Permalink

    Isnt it funny that nathan is the ONLY one defending this dyke, I mean lesbian?

  31. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 5:35 pm | Permalink

    and I am not a mrs. nathan.

    If you are the alternative, no wonder so many women are gay.

  32. Nathan
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    KFG,

    Are you on self-destruct meltdown mode?

  33. J R
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    At the risk of ressurecting a recent thread Nathan, I am calling YOU a Christian who feels that if folks are not in others faces about their faith, they are less than perfect Christians. And I am FAR from alone.

  34. Jed
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Farm Gal,Actually, I defend Mary Cheney on the grounds that each of us has the right to be as politically active or inactive as we want. She is the one who has to pay the price. It’s her call! While I have great admiration for those who step forward and often put their lives on the line for their cause, I don’t fault those who are afraid; after all, it’s their lives, not mine they risk.

  35. Nathan
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 7:47 pm | Permalink

    JR,

    I have never claimed any such thing JR.

  36. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if you ever said that or not, Nathan. But do you deny that your behavior on this blog argues for the position that you do believe this way?

    I know many Christians for whom I have great respect. They walk the walk. A Christian R.N. friend of mine has adopted multiply handicapped children who were difficult to place and has raised them and loved them like they were her own. She walks the walk of being a Christian. I don’t know what all you do, Nathan, but from what I can see here is that you do talk the talk – for whatever that is worth.And maybe don’t even do that well. How many people have you debated into a conversion to Christ. Not many, in fact likely zero, I would bet.

    Generally, I try not to address you. Because I do not see the point. This is my last time.

  37. Uraliah
    Posted May 11, 2006 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    I am inspired by a group of lesbian and gay friends who are trying to get used to the idea that there are no more sodomy laws to scare them into hiding.Remember that same-sex couples have been allowed to marry for only 2 years. May 17? I think? is the anniversary of the first Massachusetts same-sex marriages. Mary grew up a sheltered brat and always will be one. I was not impressed by her evasiveness in a recent t.v.interview. She is probably used to telling stories, just like daddy.Nathan, I remember reading through several threads back in March – you did chase the farmgrrl around, hounding her about Christianity and repenting.You and rock1 were hilarious! It sounded so utterly stupid that it kept me coming back to this blog for more. Thanks!

  38. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted May 12, 2006 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    Well uraliah, I wondered where you have been!! We need more of your posts here. Hope you will come to the picnic on saturday.

    It seems mary cheney is indeed a chip off the old block.

    This is from an article with a link below:

    “Cheney’s book harshly criticizes Kerry and Edwards, who lost the 2004 presidential election to incumbents George Bush and Dick Cheney, for mentioning her sexuality during televised debates.She also calls Kerry a “son of a bitch” and Edwards a “total slime,” the Vancouver Sun reported.

    snip

    In a televised interview with Diane Sawyer of ABC News, Cheney admitted that she almost quit the 2004 campaign over President Bush’s opposition to same-sex marriage.

    snip

    John Aravosis, a Washington gay activist and political blogger, told the Vancouver Sun he believes Cheney’s timing is suspect.”For the longest time, Mary wouldn’t speak. Now she gets a million-dollar book advance and suddenly she is speaking,” he said. “It rings a little hollow.”

    Aravosis is one of the activists behind the site dearmary.com, which tried to get Cheney to speak out against the administration’s anti-gay policies.

    snip

    A far harsher critique came from gay syndicated columnist Wayne Besen, who suggested this week that Cheney has betrayed the LGBT community.

    “I never thought I’d say this, but I agree with Alan Keyes when he said Mary Cheney is a ’selfish hedonist,’ ” Besen wrote. “It took a big fat book advance before she stepped out to ostensibly advance gay rights. While I can understand family loyalty, she also had an obligation to defend her LGBT family, and she let us down.”

    Mary Cheney: http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2006/05/11/1

  39. CrusaderX
    Posted May 12, 2006 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Wow. That’s a very interesting position you hold KFG.

    So now people are OBLIGED to be political activists now?

    Does that mean that if I am a nature-lover, I am OBLIGED to work for Greenpeace?

    Get over yourself! Stop trying to make other people’s decisions. That goes for the lot of you who say that Mary Cheney is obliged to speak out for the LGBT community. We as private citizens are not obliged to champion any political cause, and if you say so, then you fall right into the “if you’re not with us you’re against us” crowd.

  40. Nathan
    Posted May 13, 2006 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    DD,

    What you and many others seem to forget is that this is a blog created for debate and discussion and argument…etc.

    I never claimed to think I could debate anyone to Christ. I have said on several occasions now that is not my intent here.

    When I see someone make false assumptions or statements regarding Christianity or the Bible I debate, argue, discuss, whatnot with them here.

    It is that simple.