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Sorry. Sensationalism sells.
EDITORS and bloggers
You are invited to the 2nd WEblog meet up May 13th at 3:30 at Watson Park.
I is fer sur gonna be ther, cuz I be thinkin Brer Rabbit sho nuff big enuf ta be throwin whoever try be throwin HIM in da lake, inda lake hiself! Iz fer sure gonna be eatin tater salad an laufin till ma eyes start ter waterin.
Son of a gun, H. L. Mencken is dead, and blacks live on. So much for the oral farts of old dead guys.
Mencken also said a lot of nasty things about Kansas. And we all know he was wrong about those.
My favorite quote from him:
“When they tell you ‘it isn’t about the money’, it’s about the money.”H.L. Mencken
Did you double make sure that there will be no Riverfest event held there? Usually there is.
“My private prejudices are innumerable, and often idiotic.”– [Quoted in Fitzpatrick, Vincent, _H. L. Mencken_. Reviewed in the Laissez Faire Books catalog, May 1990, p. 32.]
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/mencken.htm
Cerdo, La Otra Carne Blanca!
Rage,
Yer killin’ me man, ah tell you what…
I must say, Rage, a better discription of Ian I have never read:-)
Joe,
No Riverfest events that day that park that I know of. If so they would likely be earlier and on the other side of the park.
Our 8 tables are confirmed and paid for. I got the permit to prove it. We have the tables from 3:30 til as late as we want as I understand it.
You’re a credit to “your side” Joe. I know you will be very welcome. Bring that tower stuff with you. You might want to give a shout out to some of the other folks right of center, they are kinda leery of the rest of this group!
I like brer Rabbit. I was just using a sensational name to get attention in the recent posts column.
Hey brer Rabbit? Help me in that oh so down home folksy briar patch folk way of yours to get folks to feel welcome to this little event.
You might mention the EDITORS and some posters. Make ‘em feel welcome.
No Fitzmas this week :(
I’m in…better enjoy these while I can:)
Well Mr JR, lemese whut Ah kin do.Now Ah ain no expert on y’all People types. All Ah really knows is da home folk here in ta briar patch. But it o cur ta me we aint all dat different. Why, ifn Ah was one o dem Publicans, I’d be jes jumpin all ova da chance ta be chowin down on all dem good vittles y’all bin talkin bout. My oh my, my mouf jes be waterin tinkin bout dem ribs an burgers an hotdogs an tater salad an baked beans an brownies an pies an SNICKERDOODLES!
Nows iffen ole Brer Rabbit kin say hisen gonna be chowin down on dem gud vittles wid them publicans, den ima gessin them editors of thisen here blog kin be jinin usuns en chowen down demselves, fer shur.
Brer Tarbaby, aka, the guy below
Spot on brer Rabbit and Tarwalker.
Editors?
Welcome Mc!
Now brer Rabbit. Folks are not wanting to come out. Some of them chickenhawks are sorta skeered. Tell ‘em it’s ok.
Excuse me, Mr. Rabbit, I was just going to leave but. . . this Walker fellow, he was suggesting that you’re a rather large cottontail. Is this true?
By the way, do you like to play golf? I’m just asking: I really STINK! My wife keeps bugging me to sell my clubs, but I used to be pretty good when I was younger. . .I guess I’m rambling, aren’t I? Sorry about that!
Well, I guess it’s getting pretty late, and I should leave the briar patch in peace. Have a good night!
Brer Rabbit, Ima tinkin this Lt. Columbo, he be tryin ta fine out iffen youse be sumbody he kin think yu be. But i’d knose yud be ta smart fer dats kinda nonsence. Him tinkin youse be golfen, en him don no them rabbits be climin ina holes an don be knokin no balls in em, dat fer shur.
Brer Tarbaby, aka, the same guy again.
I want to talk about a radical idea: Amending the Constitution to allow individual states to secede from the Union. Call this streamlining our government. Achieving higher efficiency through downsizing. Deflating bureaucratic bloat. Bringing government closer to the people government is supposed to represent.
This occurred to me as I read a Wall Street Journal report on Wyoming’s gas prices being lower than national average, due to lower state fuel taxes, because Wyoming’s coal, natural gas and oil producers pay the state large mineral-extraction royalties. But Wyoming pump prices are only 10 cents lower than average, in a state that is a huge net-exporter of energy. Compare this to Venezuela, a net energy exporter, where gas is 12 cents a gallon, which is to say you can fill up a Cadillac Escalade for less than five bucks. Or Kuwait, where gas is 79 cents.
If Wyoming were a nation, freed from the U.S. Constitution’s Commerce Clause, it could charge export duties, or else nationalize its resources, and then create production partnerships with energy corporations, as is done in the Middle East, Central Asia and South America. Instead of taking profits, the State of Wyoming could drop its gasoline prices by half for state residents, and either do same for tourists, or charge them say 25 cents less per gallon than the national average.
For energy exports from Wyoming, the corporations would charge international market prices, and still make money, just like they do when they sell Saudi, Kuwait, Venezuelan or Alaskan oil (which Native Americans have an ownership stake in and receive large royalties, along with the State of Alaska as well).
A state like Kansas can produce all of its energy needs. Farmers can buy it, not at current prices, but at half current price. Then they will be able to afford fuel to run their pumps to extract groundwater for irrigation and run their tractors and combines. It would change Kansas farmers from being in a position of profound disadvantage, in a world market of rising energy costs in the face of flat or declining grain prices, and enable them to earn profits, while selling grain for a profit at international-market prices. They wouldn’t need annual subsidies, which American taxpayers are increasingly unwilling to support.
As importantly, if not more so, Kansas could accrue funds to stimulate alternative crops production, such as greenhouse-grown fresh produce. (Modern clear plastics like polycarbonate are hailproof.) They can be winter-heated with Kansas natural gas, and conserve Kansas water (vapor being retained by the enclosures). A 20-acre greenhouse system can generate higher profits than a 1000-acre commodity-grain farm.
Lower energy costs in Kansas would give it a broad competitive advantage in many sectors. Low energy costs would attract new industries that use large amounts of energy. It would lower ordinary Kansans’ commuting costs, enabling them to invest their savings, or raise their lifestyles.
There would be other benefits. If Kansans don’t want to allow illegal immigration, they can control the matter. They can decide whether they want to pay for illegal immigrants’ education. Denial of free education wouldn’t hurt the immigrant children, because it would simply give their parents a choice to stay here or move to a state that offers free education to undocumented people.
Looked at another way, many of us aren’t opposed to sharing space with Latinos. I’m one of them. That’s because they do not threaten our livelihoods. But other Kansans do feel their livelihoods are threatened. Were Kansas to become prosperous, a lot more white Kansans would also feel less threatened. So they might eventually WELCOME newcomers. Maybe that’s a stretch, but who knows?
Kansas sends more money to Washington than it gets back. Without a federal tax to pay, Kansans could get a local return on every tax dollar they pay.
Nothing in the Amendment would prohibit seceding states from joining others to create new nations, nor would it prohibit them from establishing mutual-defense pacts with other new nations, nor with the remaining United States, along the lines of NATO. A lot of things are possible here. Who would have thought during the Carter Era that several Warsaw Pact countries would become members of NATO within 25 years? I’ve been to Estonia, one of the former Soviet Baltic states. It is a remarkably vibrant country. I’ve been to Norway. Because its own people share the wealth of North Sea oil as vested co-owners of this resource, Norway is quite prosperous. So is Switzerland, a nation whose people voted down joining the EU.
Is this proposal feasible to enact within the next two election cycles? Assuredly not. But we need to think “outside the box” and begin a public discourse on the matter. The way things are going now, most of Kansas outside the KC MSA is going to become a depopulated wasteland.
What a dreadful thought, a government elected by Kansans for perpetuity!
“Then they will be able to afford fuel to run their pumps to extract groundwater for irrigation”
Heatlander, go sit in the corner for posting something like that!!!
Thanks HEARTLANDER for expressing your thesis on benefits for Kansas and other states to free themselves from the tenacles of the federal government. Also thanks KSFARMGRRL for reminding us that scratches often appear in rose colored glasses.
Ksfarmgrrl, if effect, reminded us that additional irrigation would more rapidly deplete the Ogallala and other water bearing aquifers underlying Kansas and adjacent states. This would, in turn, dry up springs west of Wichita along the Arkansas, Ninnescah and Chickasia Rivers decimating municipal water supplies in western and south central Kansas including Wichita.
Using more fossil fuel energy would, of course, add to air pollution. I was recently given a web site, http://www.toxicfactor.com, which apparently expresses the poor air quality right here in Wichita.
Of course, that is no excuse for oil companies making excessive profits on natural resources. Gouging is against the law.
Open thread random thought.
Last night, Bill Maher talked about the evils of GROWING CORN!!!! And the corn growers and their lobbying power. Does anyone but me think that is astounding? All the way from LA, on a quasi political show with a mostly urban audience, what the hell, talking about CORN?
It was in the context of us importing ethanol because brazil’s is so cheap. The reason? They make it from sugar, not corn.
What the hell does he know about corn growing and why did he almost echo what we talked about here this week concerning corn sweetners and obesity, the water to grow corn, and importing ethanol?
Could it be that this is finally going to get some mainstream attention? That people in the cities are starting to see the evils of all this corn production in places where corn was never meant to grow? And that it is subsidized out the wazoo?
I’m tellin’ ya, corn subsidies, the water to irrigate corn, gmo problems, etc. are gaining attentinon, and that cant help but be good for saving our water supply. And maybe incidentally family farms and our waist lines as well.
The explosion in the growth of CORN crops is a problem, as much as I love being a korn fed kansas girl.
Mr Lt Columbo, Ah sho wish Ah could play dat golf. Has y’all got any idee how hard it be ta grip a club wifout thumbs?
Heck you said:
“Not one of the SwiftBoat vets assertions was PROVEN wrong, John Kerry had to change several details about things that were “SEARED” into his memory.”
Then you admitted:
There were some assertions made by Swiftvets that contradicted what Kerry said that cannot be proven either way. They are matters of memory.
Then you made these statements:
1. He couldnt prove the SV’s liars by releasing his full records because most of what they said was true.2. If he did release his full records it would be publicly known that he had a less than honorable discharge.
And then you admitted this in reference to those statements:
ksfarmgrrlThe less than honorable discharge is speculation, but based on a couple of simple facts. It cannot be proven for a FACT unless he releases his records.
But the quote I love most is “Not one of you on the left have listed an allegation the SV’s made that was proven false.”
Stay tuned right here!
Sorry, posted to the wrong thread. The swiftboat smackdown is on the rummy thread.
Any politically savvy people out there? What is the issue with requiring all votes (from President all the way down to Park City Mayor) to include a “None of the above”?
Vj. The none of the above is just not showing up at the polls. Most people choose that route.
KFG, I wasn’t trying to imply that we should just use cheap energy to dry up the Ogallala in 30 years. Ag does need to change, as you say. But this is going to take time. Livestock production depends on corn. Americans can learn to eat less meat, but that’s going to take time.
So please consider my point about greenhouse-grown fresh produce. If high-latitude countries like Canada and the Netherlands can grow tomatoes, peppers and lettuce in winter, and Iowa can grow fresh herbs under plastic year-round, the potential here for greenhouse ag is enormous. You could grow high-value crops and conserve water. Also grow organic and drastically reduce toxic pesticide use.
This development could be encouraged through low-cost, locally-produced energy. It’s a long-term proposal.
In the shorter term farmers either need a fair deal in the marketplace, producing the commodities that they know how to do, at costs that enable them to support their families, or else they have to give it up (the depopulated wasteland scenario), or else the feds will have to raise subsidies to enable farmers to pay for their fuel, the last making farmers even more dependent on big government than they are now to sustain their livelihoods.
Perhaps current farmers can’t learn the complexities of greenhouse ag, but their sons and daughters can, and bring the knowledge back home to develop it.
heartlander,The problem with your proposal is the Ogallala aquifier won’t last 30 years at the rate water is being pumped out. When it is dry. you won’t be able to grow corn, or any other crop for that matter. There is not enough water contained in overused rivers to sustain crops in the mid-west.
This whole area, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and Nebraska, was desert. And when the water runs out, it will be again if nothing is done to control it.
As for states seceeding from the union: Bad idea. It would open whole states and their territories to rule by morons. Like Steve said, “Imagine a Kansas government in perpetuity.”
Heartlander, you do have some excellent ideas on water conservation, but it still doesn’t answer the question of what to do with the meat processors? They are going to have to start recycling the water they use. They can’t go on dumping water as they are doing now. But of course, money talks and common sense walks in Kansas.
“As for states seceeding from the union: Bad idea. It would open whole states and their territories to rule by morons.”
Ahem…
Kind of like what we have now.
Morons elect morons.
Had enough?
Actually the only reason why we are using corn for feed is because it is a subsidized crop and easy money for farmers.
Cattle don’t have to eat corn. They can eat anything. Even sedan grass. Cattle can graze the land and Western Kansas can be turn back into grass like is used to be. Yeah! The cows won’t be as fat, but that’s a tough deal for them.
Stop subsidizing farmers and they will greatly reduce irrigation for corn.
I was thinking more chickens than anything cows. Grass-fed beef is tasty.
We could perhaps conserve water using drip irrigation as semi-arid Israel pioneered, and Californians have adopted for many orchard crops. It may be cost-ineffective for corn, though. Some local farmers grow some delicious peaches. I don’t know how many different types of tree crops are sustainable here, but maybe we need to grow more in Western Kansas. Eastern Washington has a similar climate to western Kansas, with cold winters and hot dry summers.
On beef processing plants, they can recycle water. We know this because in California, they do advanced wastewater treatment, and they’re pumping cleaned sewage into their aquifers. Not that I’m suggesting same here, but the treated water can be reused to clean the plants down, and to provide water to greenhouses.
In any case, if you’re an energy producing state, you’re sitting on valuable resources. I was reading a California article on “Tornado Alley” being a ripe target for wind-generation. Why shouldn’t Kansans capitalize on this resource, instead of letting outsiders develop it, with land owners only getting chicken feed royalties? Or Kansans rejecting it because they know outsiders will get most of the profits. This is just sad. At some point, subsidies will end, and farmers will accept outsiders’s offers of royalties to turn their farms into windmill farms. Why don’t they take the initiative? Where is KSU on this? Does it have a program in wind-generation engineering?
I thought the rural people rejected windmill farms because it made the landscape look ugly and it kills migratory birds.
A working wind-generation facility already exists out in western Kansas near Montezuma. Montezuma is southwest of Dodge City some 20 or so miles. I hope to visit it this summer to see those giant windmills actually producing electricity. And perhaps visit the fabled Satanta, Kansas, a little further southwest of Montezuma if I can locate it.
Petty little censors!
The educated Negro of today is a failure, not because he meets insuperable difficulties in life, but because he is a Negro. His brain is not fitted for the higher forms of mental effort; his ideals, no matter how laboriously he is trained and sheltered, remain those of a clown.” — H. L. Mencken
I saw the Montezuma windmills. Accident in navigation on the way to Colorado. They are impressive.
One week from today is the 2nd WEblog meetup. All bloggers and the editors are invited to attend.
Here is dem that even I could vote for!
PS: I can repost as fast as you can censor!
LARRY DARBY, Alabama Democratic candidate for Attorney General, will attend the Anti-Mexican Invasion Rally today at the Alabama Capitol. The rally begins at noon.
State sovereignty is a fundamental plank in Darby’s platform. Darby (pictured, right, during a media interview) is the only candidate for public office in his state who is talking realistically about dealing with the incursion into the Southern states by invaders from a foreign nation.
Darby has a three-part plan that is analogous to curing a severe sickness: Stop the bleeding, heal the infection and administer preventive medicine.
When elected Darby intends to ask the governor to declare martial law so as to establish checkpoints on Alabama’s borders to stop additional invaders from entering our state. Darby, who advocates bringing home Alabama servicemen from the Middle East who are there fighting for Israel, not American interests, would employ a [de-Federalized] Alabama National Guard and establish a compact with Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas to assist sending the prisoners of war thereby captured back to Mexico.
County sheriffs will be the first line of defense to solve the problem of the foreign invaders already here. Darby intends to facilitate a statewide constable system to increase community involvement in cleaning up Alabama.
Wealthy corporate interests have long been at work in Alabama to destroy our sovereignty and our Southern heritage and culture. Darby has targeted the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) as being a traitor to Alabama based on its promotion of open borders. SPLC also conducts smear campaigns against honest, law abiding citizens and businesses based on false charges of “hate” or “racism” when SPLC itself foments the problems it claims it fights. SPLC, long known as a “non-profit” fraud, bilks gullible donors of millions of dollars each year in the course of defaming and harassing good Alabamians.
See also:
Video:http://www.aptv.org/VideoRoom/viewprogram.asp?FileID=436http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=8871
V.L.R.B!!
http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/open_thread.html#comment-16951659
I don’t care much for censorship either, at least when it renders my satire ineffective. :-)
Ian, anyone that you’d vote for sure someone that I’d vote against. I don’t know why you’re such a bigoted asshole, but you are as ignorant as they come.
Ok,
6 days to our little picnic.
One thing? It would be great to have as many people as possible come out. BUT
If you are planning to come sing out and say so! We need an idea how much food we are gonna need. You don’t want to show up and find us outta tater salad or brownies!
So come on out. But RSVP
OK?
I’se jes a ol’ turtle. But I likes me dem good vittles too brer Rabbit. I’m thinkin I’se gonna be at dat dere meet up. Be fine ta meet and say hey to ya.
Brer fox I don’t think he come out. Dat fox thinks I all wet. Last time dat fox and I tangled dat fox got hisself plenty muddy. I gots him all riled and he got hisself down ta wrestle wit me. But this ol turtle is used to da mud.So’s I got him to dig hisself in deep and now he all dirty and sorry bout it plenty. He say he got other things ta do den come to da meet up. I’se thinkin other foxes dat seen ol brer fox and me tanglin aint wantin’ to meet ol terrypin by any lake like is at da meetup. Dey afraid dey get muddy too. Dey say “y’all in da patch by da pond is all hunkered up and mean.” So I’m thinkin dem foxes gon’ stay away. But I’se invitin em anyways. I’se can sit wit ‘em a spell and shar some vittles. Mebbe dis ol turtle learn sometin’ in a sits down with dem foxes gon come.
How original
My oh my! Dey seem to be two o me. Mus be some o dat sleep writin. Mebby it be one om my 736 brothers. Us rabbits got big families.
J R,
I’ll be there, but, sadly, I’m going to have to bag on the ribs. Got a busy three days coming up at week’s end, and I don’t have the 10+ hours necessary to ensure a succulent and tender finished product.
JR – I would like to show up as a representative for THOUSANDS of us who are attracted to the WEblog to read your opinions, but never write one. I only have one qualm – somebody there might not want me to be there! And I don’t know how to swim!
Gentle Reader,
I seriously doubt anyone will get thrown in the lake. Though it could be a real giggle, I suspect the subsequent lawsuits would not be worth it! :-)
By all means, come out!
Sorry all, technical difficulties yesterday. And today is my sons birthday so busy.
Too bad about the ribs CF. I’m sure we all understand.
This is the WEblog meetup. Anyone who wants to be they readers. posters or
EDITORS!!!,
is welcome to come out!
But as I said above, do let us know you are coming.
I have to take care of bday stuff for my son today. But starting tonight and tommorow it would be a good idea to get the food and other stuff organized.Lets’ get clear about attendance so we can do that.
JR, Farm Gal,As far as I know, I’ll be there. Sounds great! I’m still recovering from surgery, so I can’t participate in some of the more energetic activities, such as chasing Ian, but I’ll be there to cheer you on (and eat a burger)!Jed
In addition to the above a personal request.
With your info or other posts, how about a “Happy Birthday” shout out for my son Nathan? He is 12 today and I know he’d get a bang out of that.
Happy Birthday Nathan R.!
Happy 12th Birthday Nathan R (aka not that Nathan)! Hope you get lots of cool stuff that you’ll enjoy!!!
–I’m planning on being there with brownies and snickerdoodles (at brer rabbit’s request).
Happy B-Day, Not-that-Nathan! 12 is a cool age to be. Enjoy!
Happy B-Day N-T-N! I was 12, twice I think, err,uh, hhhhmmmmmmmmm.To quote the Prez:” I disremernate. “
Happy 12th, Nathan! I remember when I was 12. We had a president who spied on Americans and thought he was above the law. Memories. Wow.
Oh, MOTHER? Rage here. You said you’d be at the meetup, but you might want to confirm that here.
I PROMISE I’m bringing my guitar!
Rage, dear, I unfortunately will not be able to attend. I am, as I type, in California attending to matters of extreme unimportance, but matters still necessary to keep up my membership in the old band beeyatches society. I will be there in spirit nonetheless.
Play, Rage, and I will hear.
JR, MOTHERS favorite uptight blogger (you know I love you, son): Nathan, you have one Super Dad, and MOTHER wishes you the best 12 year old birthday a 12 year old could want. Have your dad buy you a set of drums!
JR,
Congrats on your lad’s 12th birthday! Our oldest, the twins, Konrad and Kurt are 12 and they turn 13 in August. They are a handful but in a good way. :)
I came across some info on mad cow disease and I hope this will be helpfull to you.
Also, EVIDENCE OF DMSO inactivating Prions is located here:Source: http://www.priondata.org/data/A_DMSO.html
Prion disease: an opportunity?
The fact that prion rods are dissolved in quite low concentrations of DMSO, and lose their infectivity in the process is interesting. However the fact is that the infectivity is returned when the DMSO is taken away and the rods reform (Shaked GM, Meiner Z, Avraham I, Taraboulos A, Gabizon R. Reconstitution of prion infectivity from solubilized protease-resistant PrP and nonprotein components of prion rods. J Biol Chem2001 Apr 27;276(17):14324-8 see abstract.
Considering its structure it is remarkably low toxicity and the possibility remains that the drug could be used to lower the amount of amyloid in the brain after other drugs had been used to actually stop the production of new PrPsc (e.g. Glivek?). This may lead to a progressive loss of infectivity in the brain and a lower risk to the brain from the stimulation of microglia and hence damage to the cellular structure that the chemicals that these cells release are causing.
Patients describe the drug as not being particularly toxic but others around them describe an ‘awful’ smell of the compound in the breath and fluids of the patient.
Ruth Gabizon at the Prion Therapeutics conference in December 2002 in Paris said that the phenomenon of DMSO dissolving of the prion fibrils should not be forgotten and, although this chemical was relatively toxic, there may be others that are not and DMSO could in fact be used for a short period in a long term therapy program.
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Medical Abstract of Prions inactivated by DMSO is located here:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11152454&dopt=Abstract
And this is the Abstract:
Reconstitution of prion infectivity from solubilized protease-resistant PrP and nonprotein components of prion rods.
Shaked GM, Meiner Z, Avraham I, Taraboulos A, Gabizon R.
Department of Neurology, The Agnes Ginges Center for Human Neurogenetics, Hadassah University Hospital, Jerusalem 91120, Israel.
The scrapie isoform of the prion protein, PrP(Sc), is the only identified component of the infectious prion, an agent causing neurodegenerative diseases such as Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease and bovine spongiform encephalopathy. Following proteolysis, PrP(Sc) is trimmed to a fragment designated PrP 27-30. Both PrP(Sc) and PrP 27-30 molecules tend to aggregate and precipitate as amyloid rods when membranes from prion-infected brain are extracted with detergents. Although prion rods were also shown to contain lipids and sugar polymers, no physiological role has yet been attributed to these molecules. In this work, we show that prion infectivity can be reconstituted by combining Me(2)SO-solubilized PrP 27-30, which at best contained low prion infectivity, with nonprotein components of prion rods (heavy fraction after deproteination, originating from a scrapie-infected hamster brain), which did not present any infectivity. Whereas heparanase digestion of the heavy fraction after deproteination (originating from a scrapie-infected hamster brain), before its combination with solubilized PrP 27-30, considerably reduced the reconstitution of infectivity, preliminary results suggest that infectivity can be greatly increased by combining nonaggregated protease-resistant PrP with heparan sulfate, a known component of amyloid plaques in the brain. We submit that whereas PrP 27-30 is probably the obligatory template for the conversion of PrP(C) to PrP(Sc), sulfated sugar polymers may play an important role in the pathogenesis of prion diseases.
PMID: 11152454 [PubMed]
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Here is some more citations using DMSO and mad cow:
source links:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12914974&query_hl=7
1: Brain Res. 2003 Sep 5;983(1-2):137-43. RelatedArticles,Linkshttp://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/mad_cow.html
There is also some hope that treatment in hyperbaric oxygen chambers can give some relief as well.
I will try and swing by to meet everyone if I can. Sadly, things are deteriorating and steps need to be taken. I will elucidate in my next post!
viva La Raza Blanco!!!
Sorry ya can’t make it Mother.
Thanks the info Ian. I’ll read through that later.
I hope you can make it to the meet up. What do you mean about “things deteriorating”?
MEET UP
I’m posting elsewhere. Phone lines at my house continue to be screwed up. Resolution tomorrow maybe.
Nathan is tickled by all the bday greetings , thanks.
Keep hammering out who is bringing what to the meet up. If you posted the old thread post again here.
We WILL need plates, utensils, wipes or napkins, pop or drinks.
And more food couldn’t hurt.
EDITORS??? You remain unaccounted for.
JR -Happy Birthday Nathan!…and many mooooorrrre!Next year, you’ll be a teen-ager, so have a bunch of fun before you get too big for your britches!
If I make it, it will be with food, paper plates, for several people.
JR,Happy Birthday to that boy of yours! Nathan, I wish you all the best.
Gentle Reader, welcome. I highly recomend the meet up. This one promises to be better than the last one. I think you’ll find it well worth your time.
Mr. SantiagoYou must have a brilliant mind. I must say that your scientific quotations are absolutely exhausting! I don’t understand a word of it! Do you have a Science-English translation dictionary to which someone of my gentle mindlessness could refer?
“EDITORS??? You remain unaccounted for.”
Maybe e-mails should be sent. I noticed Julie got Lou’s attention that way.
Well, Young missa Nathan. I heah yall be hebbin a boithday. Ole Brer Rabbit wanna wish yall a heppy one. Mah o mah, 12? Das pert near 10-12 hands high. Hew-we Mr JR. Yall gonna heb yo hans full, Im a thinkin.
My wife and I will be there, she is wanting to see all the other “lovers” that get more time then she does. LoL
Sigh….
I’m told a squirrel has chewed through my phone line. Still waiting for it to get fixed. Heck of a time to be having “technical difficulties” with the meet up coming and all.Brer Rabbit if you know a brer Squirrel who chews phone lines tell him hsi timing sucks!not that Nathan has not got to see all your salutations yet. (See above) He will get to see them eventually so thanks!
By all means come on out Gentle Reader. It will be good to meet you too Writerdog.
OK CM is bringing sausage. Kfg is bringing fried chicken and potato salad and hot dogs. Julie is bringing cookies and Rabbit treats.
I can bring charcoal. I can bring some baked beans.
Can someone bring hamburger? Hot dog or hamburger buns? Potato chips would be good too. I got 8 tables. Let’s fill ‘em.
FYI we also have access to several electrical outlets. Bring cords if you need them. I will bring at least one.
It would be good to have all this finalized (number attending and menu etc) by say 6:00 Thurs. That gives folks time to shop, cook or whatever. I’m am sure there will be much food for THOUGHT at this thing. Let’s make sure we have plenty of food to eat too.
The weather looks to be beautiful Saturday.
I will write to the editors if you all will too.
Why haven’t I been invited?
JR- I can bring the paper plates, utensils and napkins- I plan on taking my bike and these should fit nto a back pack. Let me know if this is OK.
G
That above brought to you by me by the way, just in case anyone didn’t know that.
I’m gonna run through right here who I “know” is coming. If I miss anybody or if someone has since had other plans let me know.
Attending. Me and my son, Kfg,XXX,Gfun,Walker,Rage,CF,writerdog and wife,Julie and family,Tara,gster,mrcontroversy,Jed,RD,Joe Williams….
Ian maybe Gentle Reader maybe
Damoon, flike, are in better places that day. Mother has other obligations.
Know I’m missing some folks there, (don’t get offended, been a hectic week) so far looks like about 25 or more. Allowing for unplanned guests and maybe editors? Planning I guess for 30 or so.
EVERYONE is invited original Steve.
Let me say that again. Even if I have been saying it for 3 weeks.
EVERYONE IS INVITED!
Just let it be known you are coming.
Gster, sounds good.
Oh and brer Rabbit is coming.
I think I already got him though on that list. It will be interesting to find out!
Hehe, I called out “Brer”–or so I thought–on a private e-mail. No answer yet.
JR, I bought 4 2-ltrs of Pespi, and a sack of chicken breasts (I know there’ll be fried chicken, but I won’t be partaking, alas).
On that subject, once you get your squirrel problems rectified, you should know that the purple chicken is stuffed, and won’t eat anymore.
Would anyone be interested in some brats? I’ll be glad to bring if anyone wants them. Sorry, they won’t be homemade, but I cook as little as possible and I worship the microwave.
RD,I’ll be bringing German and potato sausage, but brats are a good thing.
Depends, RD. Whose kids are they, and how much meat on them?! ;-)
Yes, that was tacky!
Ian,I studied DMSO when it was a novelty back in the sixties. It is the most powerful solvent out there. The commercial sale of it is interesting due to the fact that it will dissolve just about any chemical compound, and allow that compound to then be absorbed through the skin. It is one of the very few chemicals compounds that will dissolve insecticides; very dangerous stuff.
Its use was limited back then due its the solvent nature. I guess that today there have been refinements made to make it safer, but it is not something to be played with.
it’s ok Rage – I was thinking the same thing :)
Ahhh, man . . . you guys are sick. What kinda bbq sauce do ya use?
In and out of communication here. Still no phone repair folks. Purple chicken problems solved…. for now.
Brats? Bring ‘em! That and the chicken breasts answered my next question. If we don’t inherit a fire from a previous group I’ll have a good one going.
Keep working on the details folks. I’ll keep as in touch as the weather lets me.
SENT VIA PRIVATE E-MAIL***********************To the editors:
Subject: Your “official” invitation to WE Blog Picnic, May 13th Watson Park, 3:30 p.m.
Okay, I’m sure you’ve seen JR’s repeated attempts to get your attention. This is OFFICIAL: You are invited to join us in OJ Watson Park at the aforementioned time & date, or at some time during the next four hours, for as long or short as you want. And, my own personal request, once again: Richard & Karen, bring instruments! You’ll put at least me to shame but, hey: that’s the idea! :)
Granted, the entire motley crew of bloggers is actually just a 70-year-old insurance salesman and 15-year-old skate punk, but we’re VERY imaginative, and a lot of fun! Please join us.
Best regards,
Rage
CC: here
Well said Rage.
I’ll send ‘em an invite of my own here in a bit.
Maybe we should all write to them if we want them there.
As soon as I hit POST, I knew you’d get me on the brats. I could bring the 3 grandkids, ages 2, 3, & 4 (pure brats, at times, like today), but I plan to spare you all the pain. I’ll change that to bratwurst. How’s that? I was just remembering the guys at the tailgate picnics at the Chiefs games and all the brat(wurst)s they consumed and thought that might be a good addition to our menu.
Question:
How many regular posters are there on WE blog?
Question:
How many regular posters are there on WE blog?
Answer:
Two!
And after yall eat all those brats ‘n sausages then prolly neither of those two will be regular for a week.
Ahem. Sorry.
Ok, JM Walker, just for you:
Here’s my favorite easy recipe for Homer Krehbiel’s German-brand sausages. These sausages will not pass the ethnic-German, private taste test that the local Mennonites put ALL German sausages through in McPherson County, but imo (and maybe yours, too) Homer makes the best darn German sausages around these parts. They taste like heaven.
· Acquire a well-seasoned 14″ cast-iron frying pan.
· Place 15 sausages (3 packages) of Krehbiel’s German-brand sausages in the bottom, arranged so all touch the bottom.
· Open 3 bottles of good hefe-weizen beer (Paulaner is excellent but Boulevard’s Wheat Ale is cheaper and’ll do fine).
· Pour 2 bottles into the skillet filled with sausages, keep the third around for purposes of keeping certain parts, defined by you, well-liquified. Add beer as needed, use your own judgment. You may open more beers if necessary. ;)
· Cook uncovered over medium heat until the beer is a thick brown goo in the bottom of the pan, about 20-24 minutes; turn sausages often. Sausages should be lightly browned at the skin and slightly, barely pink at the center when done.
That’s it: enjoy!
Have fun yall!
JR, I’ll do chips and buns.
I had to hit the store again anyway, so I got 2 more 2-ltrs (including diet Dr. Pepper–already had diet Pepsi), and some KC Masterpiece sauce.
Flike,I will have to try that. Krehbiel’s German sausage is by far my favorite, although their potato sausage comes close.
My favorite Recipe using the same sausage:1 pkg 17 bean soup mix.1 pkg Krehbiel’s German sausage1 pkg smoked ham hocks1 onion, chopped semi-fineFRESH garlic to taste (damn near a whole bunch)2~3 sticks celery, chopped1 cup grated carrots2 toasted and skinned Pablano chiles
Soak beans overnight. DRain, rinse and pick out any floaters, etc.
In a large pot, add beans, fill with water until about 3/4 full. Bring to a boil then simmer for 1 hour. Add sausage, cut into about 1″ slices, add ham hocks, add celery,and onions . DO NOT SEASON YET.Continue simmering until ham hocks fall apart. Add pablanos and garlic
NOW season to taste. Continue simmering until beans turn (get mushy)
Serve with home made corn bread . . . killer.
Opps . . . add the carrots when you add the celery and onions.
Rage,You ever tried Curlys bbq sauce?
Sounds like the bbq sauce will work with the chicken breasts Rage. I can contribute some chicken wings.
Ok folks at least JED is expecting a burger. Can anyone bring hamburger? And how about condoms……er I mean condiments?
I guess I got a working phone line for awhile FINALLY.
I need to write the editors and invite’em.
JR, put me down for condiments, too.
Gotcha X.
Ok
We got sausage. We got potato salad and fried chicken. We got bbq chicken. We got cookies and rabbit treats. We got plates and utensils. We got drinks.
Beef folks? Where’s the beef? (and I do not mean between CF and Joe Williams!)And cups!I can bring SOME baked beans.
Rage? Any word back your email to the eds?
JR, I didn’t hear back, but that’s not surprising. It was nearly 4:00 and, notwithstanding last-minute deadline-chasing, I expect they work a regular day shift.
Yeah, Walker, now that you mention it, Curly’s is pretty good. It’s been years since I’ve even HAD barbebue, and cooking is definitely NOT my forte.
Looks like a great fall recipe, Walker. Dang, now I got to find a pen and write all that down. But it sure looks good!
Last call for attendees, ideas, etc. for the Saturday meet up.
Let’s have a good idea as to numbers and menu by this evening so folks can shop or cook as needed.
I will be bringing hubby and brownies and snickerdoodles (aka “rabbit food” since brer rabbit wanted them)
Ok…
Been gone from the blog. I take it this Saturday, OJ Watson park…
Time any specific location?
Sorry to be a pest, just too lazy to read untill I find the answer.
Nathan,3:30 PMShelter #1 (part of it)
Thank you!
J R engaging in a little more harmless nic swching again.
Awww I woulda made him go read Julie. I’ve only banged the drum, gong, and my head about that date and time stuff for 3 weeks now!
I do hope you make it Nathan. I’m just pickin’ on ya. You know like always.
But this from Nathan brings up an interesting point.
The last meetup we had at least one person who didn’t feel invited and so didn’t make it.
It may be that “Open” doesn’t have the visibility of the other threads.
There are still an awful lot of folks who haven’t weighed in up or down as to attending. Maybe they are like Nathan and did not know. Or maybe they don’t feel invited because they’ve got no kind of email or invitation.
The EDITORS got the only email invitation.
So, if there is a poster you would like to meet, why not spread the word about this thing and invite ‘em? Or invite ‘em again as the case may be?
But be quick. Refer folks to the open thread. It’s all here.
And for newly interested parties do let us know if you are coming.
Flike,Fergot ta write, Cover while simmering. Usuns men ferget that kinda thing. Lemme tink if deres anyting else I forgets . . .
KFG,You mentioned you are a fan of John Prine. Ever heard of Terry Reid?
Ok
I’ve been going to Watson Park since I was 2. Some folks may not be familiar with it.
Can I ask one of the more net savvy to post a link that gives driving directions to the park?
JR, you’re scarin’ me ; You been going to Watson park since you was two and you still can’t find it?
Har de har har Walker.
He is even FUNNIER in person folks.
From Pawnee and Broadway:
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&pn1x=&a1x=E+PAWNEE+ST+%26+S+BROADWAY+ST&c1x=WICHITA&s1x=KS&z1x=67211&un=m&qc=Parks&cl=EN&qq=1ADqpk24ofA9LV3FW4lUk%252fP7Yd6UxYSAxJyPlbIyzXoKmvPfOYM2QNm74e67%252fkbN27MihpjkWNC7OTeXeRwk11BqCJIauT7WmoW9QXEYWljGeu59xRN3XZnwLhzfVcx%252fYDJOHW2xpgfBuQeRIb1ufuPN7pqvlfImJXcBikrjHBp9qEwLLLpfR3OOjoHykfVWUCNRr70R6GvqVVFZ9FFRdCM59k4SUcFl4AB%252bC1zH45yN0SHQarDZfSh3LN1FkN4QJIgDlrNzamAk2fQ7ZhY4jSEReiGJEPnEcHO4kAYdnplDqycSkYvqaWwBDFvcUkeyC4RLUS2n37JrTnFz1Zvarim0jckIQCm0aKtxhjAKcEs%253d&ct=NA&q=watson+park&rsres=1&1y=US&1ffi=&1l=&1g=&1pl=&1v=&1n=&1pn=&1a=E+PAWNEE+ST+%26+S+BROADWAY+ST&1c=WICHITA&1s=KS&1z=67211&panelbtn=1&2y=US&2ffi=1&2l=H2T9jk9Py4k%253d&2g=cVmoUceQtRM%253d&2pl=&2v=ADDRESS&2n=&2pn=Oj+Watson+Park&2a=3001+S+Old+Lawrence+Rd&2c=Wichita&2s=KS&2z=67217
Does that means you’ll be there, Sam?
Well thanks ksam
Will you be joining us?
Hope that works.. if you can’t find Pawnee and Broadway…. I’m sorry….. LOL!!
JR..If I do, it will be as a drop in, and I won’t eat… but I have been known to bring Super Soakers to picnics… hehehe…..
Broadway eventually becomes Highway 81. :)
Thats ok kansassam…
I have been known to bring my .45 to picnics…
JR,I just assumed there’d be burgers; whatever’s cookin’ is fine with me! I’m still trying to figure out what I should bring. Anything needed?
N- In the can?
I must confess, I’m not that familiar w/ Watson Park. I know how to get there but where is the shelter once we get there?
Julie, When you get enter there, take a left and follow around the lake ; the shelter is the only one on the right side of the road.
G
Julie- Make that– when you enter the gate, take a left,etc.
I’ve noted that when other groups have gatherings there they post signs. I’ll take care of that. If you can find 31st Street south or Broadway, I’ll have signs there.
Nathan has to take a left turn to get there. I love that.
Jed no one has volunteered cups yet I think. You could bring about 40 or 50 cups.
It is important that we have enough food. But don’t sweat it TOO much. There is a Dillons less than a mile away should we need supplies.
Thanks darlin’
Nothing back from the Eds as of yet. Of course, they may not want to publicly announce it.
You know, we can always keep the secret within Project X, editorial comrades! The purple chicken has sworn to secrecy (he’s trying to get out of becoming dinner!). I won’t post anything here without your permission.
Rage,I thought KFG was frying up some of that purple chicken?;-)lol
mmm, purple fried chicken and bratslol
Wow, see what happens when you don’t check in enough.I may drop by, and I will not be eating. I’ll probably ride with my girlfriend so I can be the designated drinker.
Cool, Uraliah. Your posts have been interesting.
You are very welcome to come Uraliah. Bad on you for missing the meetings though!
Watch folks. Even though I have been promoting this thing for a month, someone is gonna say they didn’t know or felt uninvited!
Guys, that damn purple chicken is playing in traffic again.
Uh, yeah, I never got the purple chicken thing . . . what am I missing?
I hope it isn’t anything like a purple herbie from middle school.
I don’t see much of purple chickens here lately. Full box comm. issues I guess.
Hey “Left” come on out for the meetup.
J R breaking news!
14 police cars, a paddywagon and a helicopter just converged on my house about 15 minutes ago.
I thought bush’s nsa or the morality police had finally got me!
The suspect vehicle came slowly down my street. (To be fair it did not have lights on.) It stopped with one wheel on my lawn. Fearing the worst I ran back inside.
I wait to hear in the morning that some master criminal has been caught.
For now, all I know is that one individual was apprehended without resistance. From the crosstalk of the more than a dozen officers, I gather they captured………a suspected drug offender.
4 police cars remain. I expect a wrecker will come soon to remove the truck from my lawn.
I guess now I know why BTK remained at large for 30 years.
LH, come to the meetup, and drink the Sacred Blood of the B’aw K’bawk. Then you will receive your full induction into the solemn Rite of Tee-See-Pee Aye-Pee.
Only then will you truly understand!
Yeah, JR, I’ve seen 4 cop cars on one guy who never made a false move, let alone had to be “taken down.” Maybe he was inconspicuous dangerous.
14 cars? Geez.
%)#$($!!! insomnia!
Folks, I googled “purple chicken” for the hell of it, and look what came up:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22purple+chicken%22
Made X had heard of them? (I hadn’t) :)
Is anyone bringing ice? I’m close, so if ice is needed and no one has spoken up to bring it, I’ll grab a couple of bags on my way. Not sure where my cooler is though…
Rage, try some melatonin. It’s natural and safe. Use it for a few nights to regulate your sleep cycle. Available at most drugstores.
I guess I’m the guilty party for bringing the purple chicken to the blog.
Rage, I can’t say as I ever googled to see if it had any hidden meaning. I got it from one of the guys who works on the shipping dock. When ever a shipment would arrive for my department, I got an e-mail that said, “the purple chicken has crossed the road. I repeat, the purple chicken has crossed the road!” It was a take-off of “the eagle has landed”.
What bearing does the purple chicken have on this blog? If you don’t know, it doesn’t matter, lol.
I think it’s cool that we have our own slang and codewords. We always know if we have a personal email from a blogger – that darn purple chicken’s been at it again.
Well I spent all last evening baking so we have homemade (from scratch) brownies and snickerdoodles for the picnic.
I’m not sure how long hubby and I will be staying – our children have been taken (Son’s biological mother actually remembered that it was her weekend and grandparents took daughter on mini-vacation). WooHoo!! No kids – what are hubby and I to do? ;) I’m sure we’ll think of something ;)
JR- Have you a feel for how many people might show up tomorrow? I need to know so I bring enough plates and utensils.
G
gster
I’ve been trying to get a feel for numbers all along.
My guess is to plan for 40-50 and expect 30-40.
I don’t think it will be more than 50. If we crowd that figure, folks will have to take care to keep track of their utensils and not pitch ‘em too early.
JR– OK. I trust that something from the Walmart Elite Collection will suffice?
You don’t gotta go Chinet gster.
But don’t get stuff that melts down or falls apart under the weight of potato salad!
JR- I’m going for feed bags for the potato salad feed.
LMAO, roflmao….
I am peeling potato mountains right now! I feel like beetle bailey!
I also am plucking the purple chickens today…
And if that last from the farmgrrl aint invitation enough I don’t know what is.
If there are no final thoughts, I’ll see everyone tomorrow.