The profile on the Clinton marriage in Tuesday’s New York Times is still generating a lot of buzz, but I don’t really see why. The primary focus of the piece is how "since leaving the White House, Bill and Hillary Clinton have built largely separate lives — partly because of the demands of their distinct career paths and partly as a result of political calculations." Yeah, well what would anyone expect? Bill is busy being an ex-president and working on projects such as AIDS in Africa and tsunami relief, and Hillary is occupied with being a senator and possibly running for president. And as the piece noted, it is understandably important politically to show Hillary as her own person. What the article and its attention do reveal, as columnist David Broder notes on today’s Eagle Opinion pages, is that "the drama of the Clintons’ personal life will be a hot topic if she runs for president." Another reason to hope she doesn’t.
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Hillary is her own person? She Carpet bagged New York based on her name recongition only.
She is going to do the same when she runs for President.
In all fairness to the political spectrum, Bush II did the exact same thing.
a Slate.com writer put it best. Just what the hell is the story supposed to mean. And, the writer points out, what came out in the paper probably went through a zillion editors. Having had that happen to me, I can tell you what emerges is a far cry from what the story started out to be.
Joe – didn’t she just get re-elected in New York? I think that is a lot more than marital name recognition.
Now if you want to look at a political opportunist trading on her husband’s name look at Bob Dole’s wife!
“…the drama of their personal life…”
It would be impossible for me to have an opinion on that.. As if anyone is supposed to care?
Good point, Ben! Why is it that we feel the need to put someone’s marriage under a microscope? As if we all have perfect marriages and relationships…
Leave Bill and Hillary’s private life alone. If we had done this while Bill was President, maybe he would’ve done a better job with everything. But noooooo, we (as in the Republicans) had to go on a witch hunt, which was not only distracting to the business of the Presidency, it was a total waste of the taxpayers’ money.
Focus on your own life. If they’re happy with their type of marriage, who cares?
Ben, other than being a marriage wrecker, what did Libby Dole do before she married Bob?
Perhaps the story is:1. A pre-divorce smoother-outer for Democrats (although these are two of the most political people in the world)2. Testing the waters for her run for the presidency. Still pretty iffy; she engenders total black and white, people love her, or they hate her from the depths of their twisted little souls. I still think it is the uppity woman thing.
From Digby:
“The press is putting everyone on notice that they are going to keep their noses firmly buried in Hillary Clinton’s panty drawer for the next two years.
As he gazes upon her “striking appearance in a lemon-yellow pantsuit” old Dave is so aroused he can’t concentrate on her serious energy speech.
Hillary and Bill are more potent than Viagra to these nasty old geezers in the Washington Press corps
Oooh. What delicious, delicious fun it is for these shriveled old crones. Finally they can write about things they really enjoy instead of all this boooring corruption, war, terrorism and political failure. Damn it’s invigorating to be back in the saddle isn’t it Dave?!”
Raptor, you are so right that this is a non story. but….
Since everytime the republicans get caught in another problem, the answer is “clinton did it” maybe we need to look a little farther at this disgraction from Denny Hastert being investigated for corruption by the FBI.
Gee, do you think they knew this was coming and threw out the bright and shiney object early? I mean, since the war is going so well, the cons continue to be caught in the abramhoff net, and bush/cheney’s oil pals are still gorging themselves at the trough of your pocketbook.
And another take on rocks thrown by republicans whose marriages live in glass houses
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/5/23/008/61584
I guess the marriages of Rudy Giuliani, Newt the wife dumper, george allen, etc. are SO MUCH better than the clinton marriage.
Maybe the pre-planned distraction was because someone figured bush/cheney crony ken “kenny boy” lay would get his verdict today?
Hee hee. Kenny boy bush was just convicted along with skilling.
Hope they investigate their donations to bushco too!!
CULTURE OF CORRUPTION
Should have been:”Newt the *serial* wife dumper.”
I don’t have much to add, since ksfarmgrrl beat me to the punch, what with recycling digby and all.
Still, the next time any of you Wingnuts want to run the whole ‘liberal media’ canard, I’ll point back to the manner in which the DC press corps keeps running with stories about Democratic sexuality while assiduously avoiding the topic of GOP sex practices. I mean, isn’t the fact that a cocksucking man whore (Jeff Gannon/James Gucket/Dirk Diggler–and not that there’s anything wrong with that!) had a White House security clearance and stayed overnight 31 times deserving of more than ‘nothing to see here / move along?’ One would think so.
For the record, the Center-Right/Right wing folks who’ve posted on this topic thus far have shown precisely the restraint and priorities that the DC press corpse and the NY Times seem to lack.
And yes, how ’bout them verdicts! And I wouldn’t be a good minion of Digby if I didn’t also ask whether now we can FINALLY get some real reporting as to the Ken Lay’s close relationship to George W. Bush.
I wonder if values boy will weigh in before we get a lay-bush-corruption thread?
I wonder who values boy thinks jeff gannon, or whatever alias he uses, he of the white house issued press pass, was staying with overnight? Which value was that?
“I mean, isn’t the fact that a cocksucking man whore (Jeff Gannon/James Gucket/Dirk Diggler–and not that there’s anything wrong with that!) had a White House security clearance and stayed overnight 31 times deserving of more than ‘nothing to see here / move along?’ One would think so.”
Oh, but gay marriage is our most pressing threat.
Gay prostitutes overnight in the white house = good.
gay marriage between consenting adults = bad.
Are those YOUR values too wichita?
Values boy, and the WE, have no idea how ridiculous that sounds given the moral failings of bushco. But please, continue to have values boy “splain it all to us.”
heheh. I wonder who is next on the values boy hit list?
KFG:Was it you or someone else who told me that Gannon was visiting none other than Scotty “we can’t comment on an ongoing investigation, unless it satisfies our purposes” McClellan? So, was the government paying for those particular junkets and why was Dick Cheney not disturbed about those? IOIYAR?
Well dd, that is the “unofficial” story about gannon’s male prostitute visits at the white house. Gannon, or whatever name the white house lets him use today, is also known to perform in gay porn. Unofficially of course. Until values boy weighs in, we wont know the “official” story.
ksfarmgrrl, DAYUM. Way to put the hurtin’ on Values Boy!
Heheh CF. Like it will do any good.
He would have to have a conscience before he could be hurt by ANYTHING.
Least of all a lesbian farmer blogger. :)
Was it a big surprise, given my previous posts about the values fraud, that gay marriage would be the second topic he writes about?
How else to get the base to the polls? Blaming the mexicans hasnt worked for the values crowd, the war continues to be a titanic disaster, the culture of corruption scandal grows, and fitzmas is coming.
Wouldnt YOU rather take the easy target for bigotry? Gotta get the base fired up!
Here are those Republican values they’re all so proud of:
http://www.the7thfire.com/child_sexual_abuse/grand_old_pedophiles.htm
ksfarmgrrl,
Why do you hate marriage? Heterosexual, holy, socially institutional marriage, that is?
And now you’re going to do to farming what you’re already doing to marriage–co-opt it for the gay agenda!
Oh, and by the way, here’s a bit of blogwhoring. I, in concert with a compadre, have only begun to fight.
http://serendipitydooday.blogspot.com/
CF: Now don’t go siphoning off all the good liberal bloggers here. Good luck with your project.
Hillary’s a witch! Burn her!
Outlander see into future.
But have no fear: WeBlog is too fun for folks to just abandon. Good times.
And, once again, CF finds himself in the discomfiting position of agreeing with BlowJoe. Twice in one week, no less.
CF, I am SO disappointed.
You mean I cant read values boy on your blog? or nathan/outlander/hecker/fred/terry/joe?
Dayum.
However will I know what god wants me to think?
And isnt that phill “I love teenage sex” klein with the preznit in the picture?
Isnt bush a little too old for him?
Joe Blow, leader of the new Burning Times. Can’t deal with strong women, huh, Joe? Doesn’t surprise me. Most weak men can’t.
Agreeing with blow AGAIN?
It really is a psychotic break!
CF, you so smaht. You like Ronald Reagan? His original connection to the corporate world that made his presidency possible was GE Theater. Maybe that was before your time. My cousin put that show together, as its producer. He was a “fairy”. Dick Cheney’s oldest daughter is a lesbian. GWB sent his oldest daughter to Yale, the nation’s foremost university promoter of gay relationships.
I’m not gay. But, suffice it to say, I’ve seen a lot of damage in heterosexual relationships. Homosexual relationships too. You seem to want to simplify the world. Too bad that you can’t. It’s more complex than any of us can comprehend.
KFG,
Wanna make a bet the story would have been ‘explosive’ (in a news sort of way ;-}) had it been a female prostitute and WJClinton?
Idle intrusive specualation on the state of the Clinton marriage brought to you by that bad old “liberal” media!
Heckler hasn’t weighed in? Shoot. I wanted his take on the liberal bias in media.
On another matter.
kfg you are right on “values boy” I just read his column. He proves again what we see in the blogs everyday. Intolerance and self rigtheuosness they do take a toll on writing style. My reiview? Trite, with just a hint of pedantic.
and the sad part JR?
seventy percent of kansans think he speaks for god
Do you think that if we push hard enough on god’s values boy, that next week’s column will be about the uncivil nature of the blog world? Or the mean old liberal bloggers? Or how about the “angry woman” meme? Or the “persecuted majority” whine?
I’d sure be disappointed if he didnt mention the shoddy treatment he gets here.
I’d have to try harder the next week. :)
Oh man, you JUST cant make this stuff up.
I just saw on the news that after the guilty verdict, kenny boy, his minister, and his family, held hands in the empty courtroom and prayed for a very long time…
…now I just saw kenny boy on tv making his statement about how god is in control, he is really innocent, making all those holy noises, and being prayerful.
heheh. I guess there really are no athiests in a fox hole.
Too bad he didnt have the benefit of the counsel of VALUES BOY before he committed the felonies!
heheh. “how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me”. Too bad it saved him too late to avoid jail.
And now it appears the U.S. Attorney General, one Alberto Gonzales, stopped the investigation into the NSA spying?
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny22_hinchey/morenews/052606nsaresolutionofinquiry.html
I dont think the preznit needs to worry about bird flu as much as those swarming chickens about to come home and roost!
KFG,
Wonder how much his image consultant got paid for the advice to use the “in the hands of God – far field camera shot for several prayerful minutes” news leader?
not enough
Didn’t see the Lay family prayer moment. No matter. A higher power will intervene. I bet georgie has the pardon written up already.
kfg you are gonna make beaver cleaver (values boy) not wanna come to the meet up. Giving him the business and all that.
Oh come on JR. He has GOD to protect him from us mean and crazed liberals. Surely he isnt afraid of us. Only the truth could strike that much fear :)
The rude pundit has a great take on the conservative house of cards that is crumbling under values boy’s holy feet. The top 50 conservative rock songs.
“Right now, for the American right, an earthquake is rumbling, and the ground below is about to tear open and swallow them whole, crushing the entire movement into a viscous goo that’ll poison the ground when it closes, but at least the planet won’t heave them forth again. And in the midst of this earthquake, in their house, conservatives are scrambling around, wondering what they can save, what they can keep before the whole structure collapses. Sure, sure, they can grab the scrapbooks, the laptop, the dog. And while they may take those things with them into the crumbled ruins of their city, it’s nice to know they’d pause to take the iPod so they can rock, dancing dementedly, grotesquely, into the dust-filled darkness of their own unending night.”
http://www.rudepundit.blogspot.com/
It is right above “Cheney speaks/Jesus Pukes” heheh. But if you click, be prepared for rude language.
heartlander,
My comment to ksfarmgrrl was ironic, along the lines of the complex question ‘why do you hate America,’ as a way of silencing opposition to the current President and his policies. In this case, I was parodying the Wingnut/nutjob claim (by Values Boy among others) that gay marriage somehow undermines the institution of marriage. Such an argument is homophobic nonsense dressed up in a pious concern for traditional marriage.
Marriage, so far, has weathered the attacks upon it. I fear that it may not survive the efforts of its would-be ‘defenders’.
Actually Ben you are wrong. Hillary won in 2000, this is her first year to run for re-election.
So no! She was not re-elected. Senators have 6 year terms, if you didn’t know.
But I will give you Beth Dole.
Most Latinos strongly value family. Apparently not Alberto Gonzales though. He ditched his wife, and married somebody else.
OK, you’re right, KSFrmgrll is a witch! Burn her!
HA! I read what’s-his-name’s column (VB).
What a steaming crock of $hit.
I stand corrected Joe Williams. (I should have known that!) So, 2006 becomes critical for her – if she wins handily she remains a long-shot if she loses goodbye.
2006 will be a major election across the country – lots of governors who might then be interesting as we approach 2008.