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		<title>By: Nance</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48095</link>
		<dc:creator>Nance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Samuel, Nurse Sex Offender ConvictedOn Sept 8,2005 RN:Mark Samuel was sentenced to five years in Jail with all but two years suspended,having been convicted in January 2004 of unlawful sexual contact with a 6 year-old girl . Mark Samuel counseled the girls mother. when the counseling ended , the three became friends attending family fuctions together.  The violations occurred during sleepovers at the Nurses residence during the summer of 2003. Mark Samuel has been released  from prison and is now at risk to the community of North Bay Ontario  Mark Samuel emyployed 2007 for Assertive community treatment Team North Bay, ONNortheast Mental Health CenterP.O. Box 3010 4700Highway 11 NNorth Bay, ON,CA

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Samuel, Nurse Sex Offender ConvictedOn Sept 8,2005 RN:Mark Samuel was sentenced to five years in Jail with all but two years suspended,having been convicted in January 2004 of unlawful sexual contact with a 6 year-old girl . Mark Samuel counseled the girls mother. when the counseling ended , the three became friends attending family fuctions together.  The violations occurred during sleepovers at the Nurses residence during the summer of 2003. Mark Samuel has been released  from prison and is now at risk to the community of North Bay Ontario  Mark Samuel emyployed 2007 for Assertive community treatment Team North Bay, ONNortheast Mental Health CenterP.O. Box 3010 4700Highway 11 NNorth Bay, ON,CA</p>
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		<title>By: can't say</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48094</link>
		<dc:creator>can't say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. David Cochrane nemhc I was molested by DR.DAVID COCHRANE  . I&#039;am 13 years old and when this happened he told me he was giving me therapy , well let me tell you he did all kinds of sexual things to me ,and told me that it was okay cause  he was the doctor and  does this stuff all the time .it hurts my feelings i told my parents Dr.David Cochrane molested me, but they dont&#039;t believe me  .I didn&#039;t know that he also works at north east mental health center in north bay, ontario and is a psychiatrist . Canada,ON,North Bay
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. David Cochrane nemhc I was molested by DR.DAVID COCHRANE  . I&#8217;am 13 years old and when this happened he told me he was giving me therapy , well let me tell you he did all kinds of sexual things to me ,and told me that it was okay cause  he was the doctor and  does this stuff all the time .it hurts my feelings i told my parents Dr.David Cochrane molested me, but they dont&#8217;t believe me  .I didn&#8217;t know that he also works at north east mental health center in north bay, ontario and is a psychiatrist . Canada,ON,North Bay</p>
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		<title>By: fleettwood</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48093</link>
		<dc:creator>fleettwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh Oh, the Scientoligists weigh in.Koo Koo, Koo KooHas Tom Cruise come out of the closet yet?
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48092</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25 GOOD REASONS WHY PSYCHIATRY MUST BE ABOLISHEDby Don Weitz1. Because psychiatrists frequently cause harm, permanent disabilities, death - death of the body-mind-spirit.2. Because psychiatrists frequently violate the Hippocratic Oath which orders all physicians &quot;First Do No Harm.&quot;3. Because psychiatrists patronize and disempower people, especially their patients.4. Because psychiatry is not a medical science.5. Because psychiatry is quackery, a pseudo-science which lacks independent diagnostic tests, testable hypotheses, and cures for &quot;schizophrenia&quot; and all other types of alleged &quot;mental illness&quot; or &quot;mental disorder&quot;.6. Because psychiatrists can not accurately and reliably predict dangerousness, violence, or any other type of human behaviour, yet make such claims as &quot;expert witnesses&quot;, and with the media promote the &quot;dangerous mental patient&quot; myth/stereotype.7. Because psychiatrists have caused a worldwide epidemic of brain damage by promoting and prescribing brain-disabling treatments such as the neuroleptics, antidepressants, electroconvulsive brainwashing (electroshock), and psychosurgery (lobotomy).8. Because psychiatrists manufacture hundreds of &quot;mental disorders&quot; classified in its bible called &quot;Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders&quot; (a modern witch-hunting manual); such &quot;mental disorders&quot; and &quot;symptoms&quot; are in fact negative, class-and-culturally-biased moral judgments for dissident ways of coping with personal problems and alternative ways of perceiving, interpreting or being in the world.9. Because psychiatrists, blinded by their medical model bias, fraudulently pathologize and label people&#039;s serious life or existential crises as &quot;symptoms&quot; of &quot;mental illness&quot; or &quot;mental disorder&quot; such as &quot;schizophrenia&quot;,&quot;bipolar affective disorder&quot;, and &quot;personality disorder&quot;.10. Because psychiatrists compound this fraud by falsely claiming, without scientific proof, that these &quot;mental disorders&quot; are caused by a &quot;biochemical imbalance&quot; in the brain, genetic factors or &quot;genetic predispositions&quot;, despite the fact that there are no genetic factors in &quot;mental illness&quot;.11. Because psychiatrists frequently misinform their patients, families and the public by claiming that brain-disabling procedures such as the neurotoxins (e.g.,&quot;antipsychotic medication&quot; and &quot;antidepressasnts&quot;), electroconvulsive brainwashing (electroconvulsive therapy/&quot;ECT&quot;), psychosurgery (lobotomy) and other behaviour modification-mind control procedures are &quot;safe, effective and lifesaving&quot;. The exact opposite is tragically true.12. Because psychiatrists routinely deceive or lie to patients, prisoners, their families, and the public.13. Because psychiatrists routinely and willfully violate the medical-ethical principle of &quot;informed consent&quot; by misinforming or not informing their patients about the numerous toxic, disabling and frequently permanent effects of the neuroleptics such as memory loss, tardive dyskinesia, tardive psychosis, parkinsonism, dementia (all signs of brain damage), and death.14. Because psychiatrists routinely threaten, intimidate or coerce many patients - particularly women, children, the elderly, and prisoners - into consenting to health-threatening/brain-damaging &quot;treatment&quot; such as the antidepressants, neuroleptics, electroconvulsive brainwashing, and hi-risk experiments.15. Because psychiatrists frequently fail to fully inform psychiatric inmates and prisoners about existing safe and humane, non-medical alternatives in the community such as survivor-controlled crisis centres, drop-ins, self-help or advocacy groups, diet, massage, wholistic medicine, affordable supportive housing, and jobs.16. Because psychiatrists are sexist in frequently stereotyping women in crisis as &quot;hysterical&quot; or &quot;over-emotional&quot;, blaming women whenever they voice real complaints and assertively express their feelings and emotions, prescribing massive doses of tranquilizers and antidrepressants to disproportionately large numbers of women, and in sexually assaulting women in their offices and institutions.17. Because psychiatrists, particularly white male psychiatrists, are homophobic - the American Psychiatric Association (APA) once labelled homosexuality as a &quot;mental illness&quot; or &quot;mental disorder&quot; - and have used forced electroshock on lesbians, trying to coerce them into adopting a heterosexual life style.18. Because psychiatrists are ageist in prescribing tranquilizers, antidepressants (&quot;medication&quot;) and electroconvulsive brainwashing for disproportionately large numbers of elderly people - a form of elder abuse.19. Because psychiatrists are racist in disproportionately incarcerating and drugging people of African descent, aboringal people, other people of colour and labelling them &quot;psychotic&quot; or &quot;schizophrenic&quot;.20. Because psychiatrists routinely violate people&#039;s civil rights, human rights and constitutional rights such as imprisoning innocent people without court trial or public hearing (&quot;involuntary commitment&quot;), and subjecting them to cruel and unusual punishments or tortures such as forced drugging, electroconvulsive brainwashing, psychosurgery, solitary confinement, &quot;chemical restraints&quot;, and 4-point or 5-point restraints.21. Because psychiatrists masterminded the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people including disabled children, the elderly and psychiatric patients during The Holocaust in Nazi Germany, and &quot;selected&quot; hundreds of thousands of concentration camp prisoners for death (&quot;T-4 euthanasia&quot; program) - historical facts still missing in psychiatric textbooks and histories.22. Because psychiatrists have willingly participated in and administered mind-control experiments in the United States and Canada since the early 1950s - its chief targets have been poor patients, women, dissidents and prisoners.23. Because psychiatry, particularly institutional-biological psychiatry, is based on the 3 Fs: Fear, Fraud,and Force.24. Because psychiatry is a form of social control or punishment - not treatment.25. Because psychiatry, particularly institutional-biological psychiatry, is fascist - a direct threat to democracy, human rights and life.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 GOOD REASONS WHY PSYCHIATRY MUST BE ABOLISHEDby Don Weitz1. Because psychiatrists frequently cause harm, permanent disabilities, death &#8211; death of the body-mind-spirit.2. Because psychiatrists frequently violate the Hippocratic Oath which orders all physicians &#8220;First Do No Harm.&#8221;3. Because psychiatrists patronize and disempower people, especially their patients.4. Because psychiatry is not a medical science.5. Because psychiatry is quackery, a pseudo-science which lacks independent diagnostic tests, testable hypotheses, and cures for &#8220;schizophrenia&#8221; and all other types of alleged &#8220;mental illness&#8221; or &#8220;mental disorder&#8221;.6. Because psychiatrists can not accurately and reliably predict dangerousness, violence, or any other type of human behaviour, yet make such claims as &#8220;expert witnesses&#8221;, and with the media promote the &#8220;dangerous mental patient&#8221; myth/stereotype.7. Because psychiatrists have caused a worldwide epidemic of brain damage by promoting and prescribing brain-disabling treatments such as the neuroleptics, antidepressants, electroconvulsive brainwashing (electroshock), and psychosurgery (lobotomy).8. Because psychiatrists manufacture hundreds of &#8220;mental disorders&#8221; classified in its bible called &#8220;Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders&#8221; (a modern witch-hunting manual); such &#8220;mental disorders&#8221; and &#8220;symptoms&#8221; are in fact negative, class-and-culturally-biased moral judgments for dissident ways of coping with personal problems and alternative ways of perceiving, interpreting or being in the world.9. Because psychiatrists, blinded by their medical model bias, fraudulently pathologize and label people&#8217;s serious life or existential crises as &#8220;symptoms&#8221; of &#8220;mental illness&#8221; or &#8220;mental disorder&#8221; such as &#8220;schizophrenia&#8221;,&#8221;bipolar affective disorder&#8221;, and &#8220;personality disorder&#8221;.10. Because psychiatrists compound this fraud by falsely claiming, without scientific proof, that these &#8220;mental disorders&#8221; are caused by a &#8220;biochemical imbalance&#8221; in the brain, genetic factors or &#8220;genetic predispositions&#8221;, despite the fact that there are no genetic factors in &#8220;mental illness&#8221;.11. Because psychiatrists frequently misinform their patients, families and the public by claiming that brain-disabling procedures such as the neurotoxins (e.g.,&#8221;antipsychotic medication&#8221; and &#8220;antidepressasnts&#8221;), electroconvulsive brainwashing (electroconvulsive therapy/&#8221;ECT&#8221;), psychosurgery (lobotomy) and other behaviour modification-mind control procedures are &#8220;safe, effective and lifesaving&#8221;. The exact opposite is tragically true.12. Because psychiatrists routinely deceive or lie to patients, prisoners, their families, and the public.13. Because psychiatrists routinely and willfully violate the medical-ethical principle of &#8220;informed consent&#8221; by misinforming or not informing their patients about the numerous toxic, disabling and frequently permanent effects of the neuroleptics such as memory loss, tardive dyskinesia, tardive psychosis, parkinsonism, dementia (all signs of brain damage), and death.14. Because psychiatrists routinely threaten, intimidate or coerce many patients &#8211; particularly women, children, the elderly, and prisoners &#8211; into consenting to health-threatening/brain-damaging &#8220;treatment&#8221; such as the antidepressants, neuroleptics, electroconvulsive brainwashing, and hi-risk experiments.15. Because psychiatrists frequently fail to fully inform psychiatric inmates and prisoners about existing safe and humane, non-medical alternatives in the community such as survivor-controlled crisis centres, drop-ins, self-help or advocacy groups, diet, massage, wholistic medicine, affordable supportive housing, and jobs.16. Because psychiatrists are sexist in frequently stereotyping women in crisis as &#8220;hysterical&#8221; or &#8220;over-emotional&#8221;, blaming women whenever they voice real complaints and assertively express their feelings and emotions, prescribing massive doses of tranquilizers and antidrepressants to disproportionately large numbers of women, and in sexually assaulting women in their offices and institutions.17. Because psychiatrists, particularly white male psychiatrists, are homophobic &#8211; the American Psychiatric Association (APA) once labelled homosexuality as a &#8220;mental illness&#8221; or &#8220;mental disorder&#8221; &#8211; and have used forced electroshock on lesbians, trying to coerce them into adopting a heterosexual life style.18. Because psychiatrists are ageist in prescribing tranquilizers, antidepressants (&#8221;medication&#8221;) and electroconvulsive brainwashing for disproportionately large numbers of elderly people &#8211; a form of elder abuse.19. Because psychiatrists are racist in disproportionately incarcerating and drugging people of African descent, aboringal people, other people of colour and labelling them &#8220;psychotic&#8221; or &#8220;schizophrenic&#8221;.20. Because psychiatrists routinely violate people&#8217;s civil rights, human rights and constitutional rights such as imprisoning innocent people without court trial or public hearing (&#8221;involuntary commitment&#8221;), and subjecting them to cruel and unusual punishments or tortures such as forced drugging, electroconvulsive brainwashing, psychosurgery, solitary confinement, &#8220;chemical restraints&#8221;, and 4-point or 5-point restraints.21. Because psychiatrists masterminded the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people including disabled children, the elderly and psychiatric patients during The Holocaust in Nazi Germany, and &#8220;selected&#8221; hundreds of thousands of concentration camp prisoners for death (&#8221;T-4 euthanasia&#8221; program) &#8211; historical facts still missing in psychiatric textbooks and histories.22. Because psychiatrists have willingly participated in and administered mind-control experiments in the United States and Canada since the early 1950s &#8211; its chief targets have been poor patients, women, dissidents and prisoners.23. Because psychiatry, particularly institutional-biological psychiatry, is based on the 3 Fs: Fear, Fraud,and Force.24. Because psychiatry is a form of social control or punishment &#8211; not treatment.25. Because psychiatry, particularly institutional-biological psychiatry, is fascist &#8211; a direct threat to democracy, human rights and life.</p>
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		<title>By: crystal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48091</link>
		<dc:creator>crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this information could be useful,and if anyone could help shed light I would be greatful .

I&#039;am a victim of psychiatric abuse its a crime, and in hospital I have witnessed the twisted mentality of mental health professionals such as abuse like punishing me with force drugging of antipsychotics , chemical restraints ,isolation for days at a time with in appropriate meals, and nursing staff threating me with anything they thought of and it just depends on how mad you got the staff that day. I never did anything out of control or did I get violent,yet I was just standing up for patients rights and making my argued opinions in result I would get tortured with over dosing of forced antipsychotic drugs. I have even witnessed nursing staff murder a co-patient and it was sickening,frustrating and very sad part of my life. I also have a young friend who got an E.C.T done and it has completly fried his memory. after the reinforcement of drugs I have had tremors symtoms of N.M.S head pains, heart cardiac pains,weight gain ,dizzyness and sleepiness all caused by side affects of antipsychotic drugs. I suffer each day with the symptoms and I don&#039;t think I will live that long on psychiatric medication its deadly look at the statistics if anyone can help me with this prosectution I would appreciate all the help I can get please I can name a few people who were responsible for the murders of some people:Dr. David Cochrane (psychiatrist)R.N: Mark Samuel ,R.P.N: Sandy ,Robb

All this took place at the Northeast Mental Health Center abbreviated N.E.M.H.C use to be called the north bay psychiatric hospitalP.O. Box 3010 4700Highway 11 NNorth Bay, ON,CAmy hope is that someone could help me prosecute and bring this to justice
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this information could be useful,and if anyone could help shed light I would be greatful .</p>
<p>I&#8217;am a victim of psychiatric abuse its a crime, and in hospital I have witnessed the twisted mentality of mental health professionals such as abuse like punishing me with force drugging of antipsychotics , chemical restraints ,isolation for days at a time with in appropriate meals, and nursing staff threating me with anything they thought of and it just depends on how mad you got the staff that day. I never did anything out of control or did I get violent,yet I was just standing up for patients rights and making my argued opinions in result I would get tortured with over dosing of forced antipsychotic drugs. I have even witnessed nursing staff murder a co-patient and it was sickening,frustrating and very sad part of my life. I also have a young friend who got an E.C.T done and it has completly fried his memory. after the reinforcement of drugs I have had tremors symtoms of N.M.S head pains, heart cardiac pains,weight gain ,dizzyness and sleepiness all caused by side affects of antipsychotic drugs. I suffer each day with the symptoms and I don&#8217;t think I will live that long on psychiatric medication its deadly look at the statistics if anyone can help me with this prosectution I would appreciate all the help I can get please I can name a few people who were responsible for the murders of some people:Dr. David Cochrane (psychiatrist)R.N: Mark Samuel ,R.P.N: Sandy ,Robb</p>
<p>All this took place at the Northeast Mental Health Center abbreviated N.E.M.H.C use to be called the north bay psychiatric hospitalP.O. Box 3010 4700Highway 11 NNorth Bay, ON,CAmy hope is that someone could help me prosecute and bring this to justice</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48090</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 14:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had a good laugh this morning, in the paper it was reported that Moussaoui has changed his mind, now he wants to withdraw his guilty plea, plead &quot;not guilty&quot;, and get another trial. What a hoot!! Seems if he can&#039;t have the virgins, then he just wants to be let go.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had a good laugh this morning, in the paper it was reported that Moussaoui has changed his mind, now he wants to withdraw his guilty plea, plead &#8220;not guilty&#8221;, and get another trial. What a hoot!! Seems if he can&#8217;t have the virgins, then he just wants to be let go.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48089</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 19:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helping the American Jewish Committee celebrate its 100th anniversary, Bush vowed Thursday to have no contact with the leaders of Hamas, which dominates the Palestinian government,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_MIDEAST?SITE=CAWOO&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&amp;CTIME=2006-05-05-05-09-56&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_MIDEAST?SITE=CAWOO&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&amp;CTIME=2006-05-05-05-09-56&lt;/a&gt;

No contact?

Way to go Bushstein, you G-d Zionist-sucking stupid bastard.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helping the American Jewish Committee celebrate its 100th anniversary, Bush vowed Thursday to have no contact with the leaders of Hamas, which dominates the Palestinian government,</p>
<p><a href="http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_MIDEAST?SITE=CAWOO&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&amp;CTIME=2006-05-05-05-09-56" rel="nofollow">http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH_MIDEAST?SITE=CAWOO&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&amp;CTIME=2006-05-05-05-09-56</a></p>
<p>No contact?</p>
<p>Way to go Bushstein, you G-d Zionist-sucking stupid bastard.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48088</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 12:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a Court of Law, you couldn&#039;t convict Zacarias Moussaoui of anything.

He wasn&#039;t there.

He didn&#039;t know it was going to happen.

He didn&#039;t know when it was supposed to happen.

He wasn&#039;t connected to it in any way except Bush needed a &quot;patsy&quot; and you all needed to satisfy your Arab { &quot;terrorist&quot; } blood-lust.

Bushco had 5 years to plant or squeeze whatever they could and still couldn&#039;t make him the &quot;man.&quot;

But as long as you have an Arab suffering, you&#039;ve got what you need so very very much.

Happy now?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a Court of Law, you couldn&#8217;t convict Zacarias Moussaoui of anything.</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t there.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t know it was going to happen.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t know when it was supposed to happen.</p>
<p>He wasn&#8217;t connected to it in any way except Bush needed a &#8220;patsy&#8221; and you all needed to satisfy your Arab { &#8220;terrorist&#8221; } blood-lust.</p>
<p>Bushco had 5 years to plant or squeeze whatever they could and still couldn&#8217;t make him the &#8220;man.&#8221;</p>
<p>But as long as you have an Arab suffering, you&#8217;ve got what you need so very very much.</p>
<p>Happy now?</p>
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		<title>By: You'll be sooory!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48087</link>
		<dc:creator>You'll be sooory!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 05:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF,I&#039;m glad someone can appreciate it. Seems to crush the very being of some to find out &quot;SuperMax&quot; is other than what they are told it is.You are quite correct about a psychological breakdown that occurs after a period of time in total isolation. I have seen it first hand and it can be very ugly. In fact horrifying even to the hardest of us the first time they see it.It should be noted however, that the this is in cases where isolation is truely isolation without stimulation, or anything other than the individuals own mind to pass the time.In enviorments such as Florence, El Dorado, etc this simply is not the case as the inmate becomes very comfortable and accustom to his saftey zone. I have seen people that after as little a 30 days refuse to leave even though they had no protective custody issues. They simply liked it. I have seen the other range of this mindset also and knew an old guy by the name of James Costello, AKA Coz,  that lived quite happily in A&amp;T (Adjustment and Treatment, the name of the unit adopted after the supreme court ruled solitary confinement unconstitutional) for 13 years, refusing to leave or eat anything other than 2 peanutbutter sandwiches per meal for 13 years. He was the only successful hunger striker to actually drive the administration into submission after 44 documented days without food.On a side note, please do not think that the description of what a &quot;SuperMax&quot; is supposed to be is anything other than they origionally intended. That is exactly what their origional intent was, but over time there are a whole host of factors that erode the reality of the terms and conditions in which inmates are stored, including people developing relationships, court orders and litigation, laziness, political interference, corruption, lapses in training and even normal rotations in staff can contribute in large ways. The only thing that remains consistant, is the brochures that they pass out to the media about describing how well they are doing their job, and how unhappy these folks are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF,I&#8217;m glad someone can appreciate it. Seems to crush the very being of some to find out &#8220;SuperMax&#8221; is other than what they are told it is.You are quite correct about a psychological breakdown that occurs after a period of time in total isolation. I have seen it first hand and it can be very ugly. In fact horrifying even to the hardest of us the first time they see it.It should be noted however, that the this is in cases where isolation is truely isolation without stimulation, or anything other than the individuals own mind to pass the time.In enviorments such as Florence, El Dorado, etc this simply is not the case as the inmate becomes very comfortable and accustom to his saftey zone. I have seen people that after as little a 30 days refuse to leave even though they had no protective custody issues. They simply liked it. I have seen the other range of this mindset also and knew an old guy by the name of James Costello, AKA Coz,  that lived quite happily in A&amp;T (Adjustment and Treatment, the name of the unit adopted after the supreme court ruled solitary confinement unconstitutional) for 13 years, refusing to leave or eat anything other than 2 peanutbutter sandwiches per meal for 13 years. He was the only successful hunger striker to actually drive the administration into submission after 44 documented days without food.On a side note, please do not think that the description of what a &#8220;SuperMax&#8221; is supposed to be is anything other than they origionally intended. That is exactly what their origional intent was, but over time there are a whole host of factors that erode the reality of the terms and conditions in which inmates are stored, including people developing relationships, court orders and litigation, laziness, political interference, corruption, lapses in training and even normal rotations in staff can contribute in large ways. The only thing that remains consistant, is the brochures that they pass out to the media about describing how well they are doing their job, and how unhappy these folks are.</p>
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		<title>By: CF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48086</link>
		<dc:creator>CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 03:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry,

Good posts.  Frankly, I have some difficulty accepting that, as facilities, they are as porous and different from their stated reality as you say they are.  I guess it is possible, given how they have been marketed as a band-aid and a cure-all.  Still, the psychological breakdown brought on by that kind of incarceration is well-documented, and it seems difficult to imagine it would have such effects if it weren&#039;t practiced as advertised--total isolation.

I appreciate the thoughtful posts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,</p>
<p>Good posts.  Frankly, I have some difficulty accepting that, as facilities, they are as porous and different from their stated reality as you say they are.  I guess it is possible, given how they have been marketed as a band-aid and a cure-all.  Still, the psychological breakdown brought on by that kind of incarceration is well-documented, and it seems difficult to imagine it would have such effects if it weren&#8217;t practiced as advertised&#8211;total isolation.</p>
<p>I appreciate the thoughtful posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48085</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 00:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zacarias Moussaoui is the &quot;high-wire&quot; act in the Zionist circus and wait and see how many naked Palestinians the Zionist clowns can stuff into a Volkswagen.

All you kids be real good now or you don&#039;t get to see the Mossad blow-up the Volkswagen.

Next month the Zionists will Nuke the VW.

Won&#039;t that be fun?.......
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zacarias Moussaoui is the &#8220;high-wire&#8221; act in the Zionist circus and wait and see how many naked Palestinians the Zionist clowns can stuff into a Volkswagen.</p>
<p>All you kids be real good now or you don&#8217;t get to see the Mossad blow-up the Volkswagen.</p>
<p>Next month the Zionists will Nuke the VW.</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t that be fun?&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 23:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walker, those are wicked funny!
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 22:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jokes from Muslim stand-up comic Goffaq Yussef.

Good evening gentlemen, and get out, ladies.

On my flight to New York there must have been an Israeli in the bathroom the entire time. There was a sign on the door that said, &quot;Occupied.&quot;

What do you say to a Muslim woman with two black eyes? Nothing! You told her twice already!

How many Palestinians does it take to change a light bulb? None! Theysit in the dark forever and blame the Jews for it!

Did you hear about the Broadway play, &quot;The Palestinians&quot;? It bombed!

What do you call a first-time offender in Saudi Arabia? Lefty!

Did you hear about the Muslim strip club? It features full facial nudity!

Why do Palestinians find it convenient to live on the West Bank? Because it&#039;s just a stone&#039;s throw from Israel!

Why are Palestinian boys luckier than American boys? Because every Palestinian boy will get to join a rock group!

A Palestinian suspect was being grilled by Israeli police. &quot;Honest, I&#039;m not a suicide bomber,&quot; he said. &quot;I didn&#039;t say I wanted to blow myself up so I could sleep with 72 virgins. All I said was, &#039;I&#039;m dying to get laid!&#039;&quot;

What does the sign say above the nursery in a Palestinian maternity ward?  &quot;Live ammunition.&quot;

Palestinian girl says to her mommy: &quot;After Abdul blows himself up, can I have his room?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jokes from Muslim stand-up comic Goffaq Yussef.</p>
<p>Good evening gentlemen, and get out, ladies.</p>
<p>On my flight to New York there must have been an Israeli in the bathroom the entire time. There was a sign on the door that said, &#8220;Occupied.&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you say to a Muslim woman with two black eyes? Nothing! You told her twice already!</p>
<p>How many Palestinians does it take to change a light bulb? None! Theysit in the dark forever and blame the Jews for it!</p>
<p>Did you hear about the Broadway play, &#8220;The Palestinians&#8221;? It bombed!</p>
<p>What do you call a first-time offender in Saudi Arabia? Lefty!</p>
<p>Did you hear about the Muslim strip club? It features full facial nudity!</p>
<p>Why do Palestinians find it convenient to live on the West Bank? Because it&#8217;s just a stone&#8217;s throw from Israel!</p>
<p>Why are Palestinian boys luckier than American boys? Because every Palestinian boy will get to join a rock group!</p>
<p>A Palestinian suspect was being grilled by Israeli police. &#8220;Honest, I&#8217;m not a suicide bomber,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t say I wanted to blow myself up so I could sleep with 72 virgins. All I said was, &#8216;I&#8217;m dying to get laid!&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>What does the sign say above the nursery in a Palestinian maternity ward?  &#8220;Live ammunition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Palestinian girl says to her mommy: &#8220;After Abdul blows himself up, can I have his room?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: You'll be sooory!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48082</link>
		<dc:creator>You'll be sooory!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 21:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darwin,There was a major difference between state parole supervision and the federal system in the 80&#039;s that made it appear more stringent but that was the limit of it. The feds had a minimum of 2/3 of the sentence be served before even being considered eligible for a parole hearing.The Kansas system had indertminate sentencing that in effect guarenteed to return the inmate into the system at some point during his parole. If an inmate had a sentence of 2 to 10, and got out on parole after 2 years, he remaind under KDOC supervision for the remaining 8 years, subject to return for anything as little as contacts with a law enforcement officer. In fact, any violation of any law for any reason was cause for return. What is more, any KDOC employee (including a secretary if she wanted) was authorized under the conditions of parole to enter, without knocking, his or her place of residence. Inmates actually chose not to accept parole rather than live on paper with the state of Kansas breathing down their necks for the next few years.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darwin,There was a major difference between state parole supervision and the federal system in the 80&#8217;s that made it appear more stringent but that was the limit of it. The feds had a minimum of 2/3 of the sentence be served before even being considered eligible for a parole hearing.The Kansas system had indertminate sentencing that in effect guarenteed to return the inmate into the system at some point during his parole. If an inmate had a sentence of 2 to 10, and got out on parole after 2 years, he remaind under KDOC supervision for the remaining 8 years, subject to return for anything as little as contacts with a law enforcement officer. In fact, any violation of any law for any reason was cause for return. What is more, any KDOC employee (including a secretary if she wanted) was authorized under the conditions of parole to enter, without knocking, his or her place of residence. Inmates actually chose not to accept parole rather than live on paper with the state of Kansas breathing down their necks for the next few years.</p>
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		<title>By: You'll be sooory!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48081</link>
		<dc:creator>You'll be sooory!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 20:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>XXX,When did I even once say I wanted him killed? Personally I would much prefer someone like him be stored in an offshore facility controlled by strictly by the military where there is no chance he has the ability to manipulate innocent or ignorant civilians for the rest of time. I don&#039;t care much for the idea of his recieving the same privlidges and rights as American inmates period. Like an inmate told me when I was brand new and as naive to inmate mentality as civilians are. &quot;God Damn, &quot;My Name&quot;. I might be a f#$%in inmate, but I am still 100% American and not a traitor.&quot; This was during operation &quot;Just Cause&quot; in Panama after I expressed surprise at all the cheering when the ivasion was announced on the news.My only point and purpose was simply to dispell the distorted misinformation being fed to the media about the reality of the life this guy will lead. I simply detest governmental breaucrats lying to the public when it is just as simple for them to say, &quot;We are not telling you because we do not have to, for we are the government.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>XXX,When did I even once say I wanted him killed? Personally I would much prefer someone like him be stored in an offshore facility controlled by strictly by the military where there is no chance he has the ability to manipulate innocent or ignorant civilians for the rest of time. I don&#8217;t care much for the idea of his recieving the same privlidges and rights as American inmates period. Like an inmate told me when I was brand new and as naive to inmate mentality as civilians are. &#8220;God Damn, &#8220;My Name&#8221;. I might be a f#$%in inmate, but I am still 100% American and not a traitor.&#8221; This was during operation &#8220;Just Cause&#8221; in Panama after I expressed surprise at all the cheering when the ivasion was announced on the news.My only point and purpose was simply to dispell the distorted misinformation being fed to the media about the reality of the life this guy will lead. I simply detest governmental breaucrats lying to the public when it is just as simple for them to say, &#8220;We are not telling you because we do not have to, for we are the government.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darwin'sDisciple</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48080</link>
		<dc:creator>Darwin'sDisciple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 20:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the outcome - imprisonment, rather than the death penalty - indicates on some level, at least, the Jury in this trial got that &quot;bait and switch&quot;.

The outcome was a vindication for the American people - which is different (unfortunatly) from our government.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the outcome &#8211; imprisonment, rather than the death penalty &#8211; indicates on some level, at least, the Jury in this trial got that &#8220;bait and switch&#8221;.</p>
<p>The outcome was a vindication for the American people &#8211; which is different (unfortunatly) from our government.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48079</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Isikoff did make some sense on Hardball yesterday.

Isikoff: This entire Moussaoui trial was a side show. The Justice Department indicted him at the time, they thought he might have been the 20th hijacker. They later learned he was not. But there was a feeling, that for altogether understandable reasons, that the country needed a trial, the cathartic effect of a trial to deal with the most horrific crime in American history.

What this trial ought to do at this point provoke a debate and discussion and concentration on why we haven`t tried the people who were responsible for 9/11. But there was a feeling, that for altogether understandable reasons, that the country needed a trial, the cathartic effect of a trial to deal with the most horrific crime in American history.

But the point is that after the time that they indicted Moussaoui, we came to get into custody the people who were directly responsible for that crime, the architect, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who was Mohammed Atta`s collaborator at every step of the way -- twice in 2001, Atta leaves the country to consult with Ramzi bin al-Shibh about the for the attack -- the financier who was also in custody, Qualli bin Atassh (phonetic) who helped planned it at the Malaysia meeting.

But the government has been completely stymied about what do to with these people. Why -- and this is the one where it is really worth connecting the dots. It goes straight into the White House, the Oval Office and the vice president`s office because key decisions were made about aggressive interrogation techniques that were going to be used on these people.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Isikoff did make some sense on Hardball yesterday.</p>
<p>Isikoff: This entire Moussaoui trial was a side show. The Justice Department indicted him at the time, they thought he might have been the 20th hijacker. They later learned he was not. But there was a feeling, that for altogether understandable reasons, that the country needed a trial, the cathartic effect of a trial to deal with the most horrific crime in American history.</p>
<p>What this trial ought to do at this point provoke a debate and discussion and concentration on why we haven`t tried the people who were responsible for 9/11. But there was a feeling, that for altogether understandable reasons, that the country needed a trial, the cathartic effect of a trial to deal with the most horrific crime in American history.</p>
<p>But the point is that after the time that they indicted Moussaoui, we came to get into custody the people who were directly responsible for that crime, the architect, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who was Mohammed Atta`s collaborator at every step of the way &#8212; twice in 2001, Atta leaves the country to consult with Ramzi bin al-Shibh about the for the attack &#8212; the financier who was also in custody, Qualli bin Atassh (phonetic) who helped planned it at the Malaysia meeting.</p>
<p>But the government has been completely stymied about what do to with these people. Why &#8212; and this is the one where it is really worth connecting the dots. It goes straight into the White House, the Oval Office and the vice president`s office because key decisions were made about aggressive interrogation techniques that were going to be used on these people.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48078</link>
		<dc:creator>ksfarmgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 20:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole thread illustrates how the Moussaoui trial and punishment were sort of a bait and switch to the public.

The real mastermind of 9/11 remains free. Ossama been forgotten? And the other government failures? All forgotten in the hatred of this little pissant.

A woman who lost loved ones on 9/11 pounded away yesterday at the fact that George Tenet and two FBI agents were given a pass after they refused to issue FISA warrants and information and why does the City of N.Y. still not have their act together.

BREITWEISER: &quot;Yes, I have to say two things really.  No. 1, now that the Moussaoui penalty phase is over, I certainly hope that the information will be flowing freely to the American people.

For four years, I and many other 9/11 family members have fought very hard to have information released go the public, information about governmental failures.  We were always told that we couldn&#039;t have that information because it would harm Moussaoui&#039;s right to a fair trial.

Having said that, I would appreciate someone asking either Senator Biden or former Mayor Giuliani, if their standard for death is withholding information from the FBI that could have prevented the 9/11 attacks—how then are we excusing FBI agents Maltbie and Frasca, who were accused, or allegedly accused in the Moussaoui penalty phase itself, of being criminally negligent with regard to giving a FISA warrant.

How would you explain George Tenet, who withheld information about two of the 9/11 hijackers for 18 months from the FBI—information that certainly would have gone a long way into preventing those attacks.

And I&#039;d like to know, where are we drawing the line here, what is the threshold, and why are we not holding those types of people in our own government accountable?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thread illustrates how the Moussaoui trial and punishment were sort of a bait and switch to the public.</p>
<p>The real mastermind of 9/11 remains free. Ossama been forgotten? And the other government failures? All forgotten in the hatred of this little pissant.</p>
<p>A woman who lost loved ones on 9/11 pounded away yesterday at the fact that George Tenet and two FBI agents were given a pass after they refused to issue FISA warrants and information and why does the City of N.Y. still not have their act together.</p>
<p>BREITWEISER: &#8220;Yes, I have to say two things really.  No. 1, now that the Moussaoui penalty phase is over, I certainly hope that the information will be flowing freely to the American people.</p>
<p>For four years, I and many other 9/11 family members have fought very hard to have information released go the public, information about governmental failures.  We were always told that we couldn&#8217;t have that information because it would harm Moussaoui&#8217;s right to a fair trial.</p>
<p>Having said that, I would appreciate someone asking either Senator Biden or former Mayor Giuliani, if their standard for death is withholding information from the FBI that could have prevented the 9/11 attacks—how then are we excusing FBI agents Maltbie and Frasca, who were accused, or allegedly accused in the Moussaoui penalty phase itself, of being criminally negligent with regard to giving a FISA warrant.</p>
<p>How would you explain George Tenet, who withheld information about two of the 9/11 hijackers for 18 months from the FBI—information that certainly would have gone a long way into preventing those attacks.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d like to know, where are we drawing the line here, what is the threshold, and why are we not holding those types of people in our own government accountable?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darwin'sDisciple</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48077</link>
		<dc:creator>Darwin'sDisciple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 19:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NPR report below:&quot;Day to Day, May 4, 2006 · Zacarias Moussaoui&#039;s sentence means he will be sent to a super-maximum federal prison in Colorado. The high-tech, highly secure jails are controversial among human and civil rights advocates, because inmates have little or no opportunity for human interaction, education or reform. Karen Grigsby Bates reports.&quot;

Link here:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5382725&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5382725&lt;/a&gt;

So, we are getting two different stories here.

My experience with Federal Court comes from the 1980&#039;s and involved my work for a business that provided services to men and women on Federal probation/parole.  Almost exclusively these offenders were drug offenders or people for whom a drug problem was detected at some point during supervision.

What would be considered intensive supervion by state offenders, was the norm for offenders on federal paper.  This involved calling an answering machine every day to determine if one was to provide a urine drug screen that day.  Having to give a UA on two consecutive days was not uncommon + there was a sliding scale as to how many UAs one had to give per month - hence, there was no way to predict one&#039;s drug screen obligations.  Many offenders were returned to prison for violations and many elected to discharge their obligation to the Federal Court by staying in prison rather than deal with the expectations that were part of Federal parole system.

The Feds had an infinite amount of resources and they had the time to be intrusive in offenders&#039; lives.  I think it is too bad that the state can&#039;t give has much supervision as the Feds did.

The average Fed offender, it seemed to me was smarter and more sociopathic than the average state offender - there were always exceptions to this rule, of course.

My information is dated and may be restricted to the District of Kansas (at that time), but I concluded that if I every had an parole/probation obligation, I wanted to be indebted to a state court rather than a Federal one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NPR report below:&#8221;Day to Day, May 4, 2006 · Zacarias Moussaoui&#8217;s sentence means he will be sent to a super-maximum federal prison in Colorado. The high-tech, highly secure jails are controversial among human and civil rights advocates, because inmates have little or no opportunity for human interaction, education or reform. Karen Grigsby Bates reports.&#8221;</p>
<p>Link here:<a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5382725" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5382725</a></p>
<p>So, we are getting two different stories here.</p>
<p>My experience with Federal Court comes from the 1980&#8217;s and involved my work for a business that provided services to men and women on Federal probation/parole.  Almost exclusively these offenders were drug offenders or people for whom a drug problem was detected at some point during supervision.</p>
<p>What would be considered intensive supervion by state offenders, was the norm for offenders on federal paper.  This involved calling an answering machine every day to determine if one was to provide a urine drug screen that day.  Having to give a UA on two consecutive days was not uncommon + there was a sliding scale as to how many UAs one had to give per month &#8211; hence, there was no way to predict one&#8217;s drug screen obligations.  Many offenders were returned to prison for violations and many elected to discharge their obligation to the Federal Court by staying in prison rather than deal with the expectations that were part of Federal parole system.</p>
<p>The Feds had an infinite amount of resources and they had the time to be intrusive in offenders&#8217; lives.  I think it is too bad that the state can&#8217;t give has much supervision as the Feds did.</p>
<p>The average Fed offender, it seemed to me was smarter and more sociopathic than the average state offender &#8211; there were always exceptions to this rule, of course.</p>
<p>My information is dated and may be restricted to the District of Kansas (at that time), but I concluded that if I every had an parole/probation obligation, I wanted to be indebted to a state court rather than a Federal one.</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48076</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 19:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sooory, what exactly is it you want Moussaoui killed for? As you may (or may not) recall, Moussaoui was incarcerated on 9/11. He claims to have been part of the 9/11 conspiracy, but this nutcase has claimed a lot of things that are pretty questionable. Let&#039;s keep in mind that killing him is what he wants. In his mind, that would make him a martyr (go to heaven, have 72 virgins, etc). Al Queda even considers the guy a nutcase and too unstable to be of any use.

I find most of your tirade on this thread pretty suspect. Being a janitor at Lansing, or whatever you claim to be doesn&#039;t seem to make you an expert. Your contention that the federal penal system is some kind of giant hoax seems a little fishy to me.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooory, what exactly is it you want Moussaoui killed for? As you may (or may not) recall, Moussaoui was incarcerated on 9/11. He claims to have been part of the 9/11 conspiracy, but this nutcase has claimed a lot of things that are pretty questionable. Let&#8217;s keep in mind that killing him is what he wants. In his mind, that would make him a martyr (go to heaven, have 72 virgins, etc). Al Queda even considers the guy a nutcase and too unstable to be of any use.</p>
<p>I find most of your tirade on this thread pretty suspect. Being a janitor at Lansing, or whatever you claim to be doesn&#8217;t seem to make you an expert. Your contention that the federal penal system is some kind of giant hoax seems a little fishy to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 19:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word &quot;terrorist&quot; is a misnomer, haven&#039;t you figured that out yet?

Bush: &quot;We&#039;re fighting the insurgents, but if we leave the &quot;terrorists&quot; will have won.

Now, see how it works?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word &#8220;terrorist&#8221; is a misnomer, haven&#8217;t you figured that out yet?</p>
<p>Bush: &#8220;We&#8217;re fighting the insurgents, but if we leave the &#8220;terrorists&#8221; will have won.</p>
<p>Now, see how it works?</p>
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		<title>By: You'll be sooory!</title>
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		<dc:creator>You'll be sooory!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 18:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF,I have not now nor have I ever held a desire for revenge. To be honest, there was even one inmate housed in the AT&amp;T building that was a friend of mine when we were in grade school. (Keith Brantly, AKA Saladin, AKA Slim Gator, AKA Edward Keith Brantley and several more) Furthermore, I met many people serving time over the years, I could have seen myself calling a friend had circumstances been different.To answer your question, yes CF I have been to Florence, toured it and declined going to the fed due to divorce and visitation issues.Let me explain my issue with &quot;air conditioned comfort&quot; with the reality of the situation. If you were an inmate living in a maximum security prison cell in a max unit containing no luxuries such as a personal shower, air conditioning, telephone in your cell, 3 hot meals per day delivered to your door, and a free TV. What would be the simplest and fastest way to improve one&#039;s standard of living? By the inmate&#039;s way of thinking, it is easy. Just kill someone and you get an air conditioned private cell twice as big as what you currently have with all the trimmings.The term SuperMax is a selling point that somehow justifies the outragously inflated cost of prefabricated prison construction. The fact is they are far cheaper and less secure. They sell them as highly restrictive units but in truth only a very small part of the facility is actually a seg unit and nobody, but nobody is left in them to &quot;rot&quot;. The prison officials tout how restrictive the life is, but they really rely on passification  and the imates happiness to maintain control.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF,I have not now nor have I ever held a desire for revenge. To be honest, there was even one inmate housed in the AT&amp;T building that was a friend of mine when we were in grade school. (Keith Brantly, AKA Saladin, AKA Slim Gator, AKA Edward Keith Brantley and several more) Furthermore, I met many people serving time over the years, I could have seen myself calling a friend had circumstances been different.To answer your question, yes CF I have been to Florence, toured it and declined going to the fed due to divorce and visitation issues.Let me explain my issue with &#8220;air conditioned comfort&#8221; with the reality of the situation. If you were an inmate living in a maximum security prison cell in a max unit containing no luxuries such as a personal shower, air conditioning, telephone in your cell, 3 hot meals per day delivered to your door, and a free TV. What would be the simplest and fastest way to improve one&#8217;s standard of living? By the inmate&#8217;s way of thinking, it is easy. Just kill someone and you get an air conditioned private cell twice as big as what you currently have with all the trimmings.The term SuperMax is a selling point that somehow justifies the outragously inflated cost of prefabricated prison construction. The fact is they are far cheaper and less secure. They sell them as highly restrictive units but in truth only a very small part of the facility is actually a seg unit and nobody, but nobody is left in them to &#8220;rot&#8221;. The prison officials tout how restrictive the life is, but they really rely on passification  and the imates happiness to maintain control.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/05/justice_served_/#comment-48073</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 18:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without seeming to assume too much, I&#039;m gonna guess from posts here and elsewhere that sorrry is a prison guard or official. Maybe that could be clarified? In what capacity are you involved in the penal system?

But going on that assumption, sorrry may be better informed but also somewhat biased. Life in prison probably does not look so bad to someone who sees it everyday. I imagine you get used to the environment like any other work place. The lives of the inmates in your constant charge must seem quite cushy in comparison to your own when you have to leave at the end of the day and feed yourself and pay bills. So you probably lose sight of the reality that...

YOU get to leave.

Just for me personally, I&#039;d rather be put to death then live like Mousawi or the Carr brothers or Dennis Rader. They are alive and that&#039;s about all. They have nothing and no hope and the knowledge that that is not gonna change period. And they deserve it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without seeming to assume too much, I&#8217;m gonna guess from posts here and elsewhere that sorrry is a prison guard or official. Maybe that could be clarified? In what capacity are you involved in the penal system?</p>
<p>But going on that assumption, sorrry may be better informed but also somewhat biased. Life in prison probably does not look so bad to someone who sees it everyday. I imagine you get used to the environment like any other work place. The lives of the inmates in your constant charge must seem quite cushy in comparison to your own when you have to leave at the end of the day and feed yourself and pay bills. So you probably lose sight of the reality that&#8230;</p>
<p>YOU get to leave.</p>
<p>Just for me personally, I&#8217;d rather be put to death then live like Mousawi or the Carr brothers or Dennis Rader. They are alive and that&#8217;s about all. They have nothing and no hope and the knowledge that that is not gonna change period. And they deserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think living in prison would be far worse than death. If prison IS worse than death, wouldnt prison be the better punishment?

Or is that at the heart of your problem? You think prison isnt worse than death, and you think it should be.

Maybe for the non lifers we should just post the sign from Dante&#039;s ninth inferno: &quot;abandon hope all ye who enter here&quot;.

That ought to encourage rehabilitation and good behavior of prisoners.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think living in prison would be far worse than death. If prison IS worse than death, wouldnt prison be the better punishment?</p>
<p>Or is that at the heart of your problem? You think prison isnt worse than death, and you think it should be.</p>
<p>Maybe for the non lifers we should just post the sign from Dante&#8217;s ninth inferno: &#8220;abandon hope all ye who enter here&#8221;.</p>
<p>That ought to encourage rehabilitation and good behavior of prisoners.</p>
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		<title>By: ksfarmgrrl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 18:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The best I can tell you is that most research and statistics compiled about institutional life are done so with a limited amount of purposes and usually done only to support an administrative, political or legislative (budgetary) goal. &quot;

So....that would be no on the factual backup?

Ok, if it is just your opinion, that is fine. Just dont hold it out as fact.

And again, is Lansing the same as Florence? To repeat CF&#039;s question, have you been there? Do you know the differences?


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<p>So&#8230;.that would be no on the factual backup?</p>
<p>Ok, if it is just your opinion, that is fine. Just dont hold it out as fact.</p>
<p>And again, is Lansing the same as Florence? To repeat CF&#8217;s question, have you been there? Do you know the differences?</p>
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