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Quote of the Day:
” I believe in a pure black race just as how all sef-respecting whites believe in a pure white race, as far as that can be. I am conscious of the fact that slavery brought upon us te curse of many colors within the Negro race, but that is no reason why we of ourselves should perpetuate the evil; hence instead of encouraging a wholesale bastardy in the race, we feel that we should now set out to create a race type and standard of our own which could not, in the future, be stigmatized by bastardy, but could be recognized and respected as the true race type anteceding even our own time”. – Purity Of Race from The Philosophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey
V.L.R.B!!
As a counterweight to the Ian nonsense, this from the American Association of Physical Antrhopology:
“There is great genetic diversity within all human populations. Pure races, in the sense of genetically homogenous populations, do not exist in the human species today, nor is there any evidence that they have ever existed in the past.”
A link to their site:
http://www.physanth.org/positions/race.html
Here is some more food for thought!
by Jim Gilesnews@nature.com
RESEARCHERS SAY that a remarkable data set on the developing brain adds to the idea that IQ is a meaningful concept in neuroscience. The study, (see ‘ Intellectual ability and cortical development in children and adolescents’) of this issue, suggests that performance in IQ tests is associated with changes in the brain during adolescence.
Claims that IQ is a valid measure of intelligence tend to attract angry responses, in part because of studies that have attempted to link group differences in IQ with race. In their 1994 book The Bell Curve, political scientist Charles Murray and psychologist Richard Herrnstein argued that the lower-income status of some US ethnic minorities was linked to below-average IQ scores among those groups. These were in turn attributed to mainly genetic factors.
Before that, Harvard University entomologist Edward Wilson provoked outrage with work that proposed evolutionary explanations for human behaviour and individual differences in intelligence; critics called the work racist. And this month, the journal Intelligence printed an editorial note defending its policy regarding the publication of controversial papers. The note comes after a study linking IQ and skin colour (D. I. Templer and H. Arikawa Intelligence 34, 121–139; 2006), published online last November, prompted a string of complaints from scientists….
The latest result, from a team led by Philip Shaw at the National Institute of Mental Health in Bethesda, Maryland, adds to the debate by linking IQ with changes in the brain over time, rather than fixed attributes such as brain size. “It’s not that brainy children have more grey matter,” says Shaw. “The story of intelligence is in the trajectory of brain development.”
Shaw’s team tracked a group of more than 300 children as they aged from 6 to 19, running them through a series of cognitive tests — IQ is determined by combining scores from tests of a range of verbal and non-verbal abilities. The team also measured the size of brain structures using magnetic resonance imaging at roughly two-year intervals: more than half the children had at least two scans, and around a third were scanned three or more times.
When the researchers split the children into three groups according to their initial IQ scores, they noticed a characteristic pattern of changes in the brains of the group with the highest scores. The thickness of the cortex — the outer layer of the brain that controls high-level functions such as memory — started off thinner than that of the other groups, but rapidly gained depth until it was thicker than normal during the early teens. All three groups converged, with the children having cortexes of roughly equal thickness by age 19. The strongest effect was seen in the prefrontal cortex, which controls planning and reasoning….
Full articlehttp://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=8714
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Given the fact that Homo sapiens came from east Africa and went from there to Europe (already populated by Neanderthal) and Asia (populated by Homo erectus) I wonder whether it is the European (white) and perhaps Asian who are “mongrelized”? Homo sapiens was dark-skinned; Neanderthal light-skinned.
That might help explain the differences among the branches of Homo sapiens.
Without endorsing Ian’s views on race, there is truth in that people do collect into to groups according to their race or religion and prefer to live that way.
Many other common interests tend to bind people into groups. Problems arise when People such as Zionist-Jews begin to think they’re better than others and worsen when they’re willing to commit murder fostered out of that hatred, such as the Zionist-Jews murdering Palestinians.
It amazes me that the United States endorses Zionist-Jew hatred of Arab and gives them weapons to commit murder to prove their point.
Birds of a feather have always flocked together and I find no harm in that as long as it goes no further, as in all the way to the Zionist-Jew hatred of Arabs.
SighIan?
What a rotten way to start an open thread.
Maybe we need a special place for stuff like that.
Like “Alley wall” or “random rant” or “stuff you might read in a public toilet”
Ok
13 May 2006Meet up at Watson park.
Since it’s a new thread, let everyone know again if you plan to attend.Feel free to ask for a command performance face to face with a poster you like ….or maybe one you wanna do the Zell Miller with.
Check out this new blog. Doesn’t seem all that factual but it’s always fun to rip on Right-wing fanatics
http://dont-let-eric-carter-win.blogspot.com/
JR,
I happen to admire Marcus Gravey, he was true visionary and the greatest “leader” that blacks ever had.
ED,
I wish all races to leave happily and prosperously in their own homogenous nations. I have no desire to enslave, rule over, exploit, govern or harm non-Whites! The true racists and imperialists are the zionist and their shabbos goy errand boys and girls who want to enlave all non-jews on their nwo zionist , global plantation. I think slavery is just as evil as multi-racialism.
viva La Raza Blanco!!
We need to talk about vocational education. Not the factory-floor training type, because factories are being transferred to Asia, so that Asia can experience the Industrial Revolution, which was predictated on cheap labor doing relatively low-value tasks. But craftsman labor. (This may be an argument for Luddism, but as the French say, “The more things change, the more they stay the same,” which really goes back to Solomon, “There is nothing new under the sun.”
I remember in the 70’s when we thought we had lost craftsmanship. But we resurrected it. This is what Norm Abram’s PBS show, “New Yankee Workshop” is all about. It’s why Latinos and Asian-Americans turn ordinary mass-produced Hondas into fantastic racing machines. It’s why McDonald’s, the epitome of Industrial Age hyper-efficient food production is struggling, while high quality locally owned restaurateurship is blooming. It’s even starting to do this in Wichita, although the going is slow, because very few Wichitans are willing to pay the premium costs of premium products.
I read an article about a greenhouse system in New Hampshire, whose plants turn filthy dirty-green disease-ridden waste-water into clear, virtually potable water. (Okay, add a little chlorine, and let it evaporate. )
Basically, we can have a reinvented economy, in which highly-skilled manual labor is valued, which is to say, handiwork is very much brain-driven, and a reflection of enormous intelligence.A lot of really smart kids don’t want to analyze Herman Melville or Toni Morrison and write essays. They want to analyze something different and BUILD things using their talents. So we need to create a framework to teach and encourage them to do what they are best at.
In science education, we have a totally corrupt battle over Intelligent Design. The truth is, good science teaching examines designs. “Here is how DNA works. Let’s play with it, and design new things.”
Paleontologists have created really interesting terrestrial “lifestyles” for carnisaurs like T. Rex or Gigantosaurus Carolinii, feasting on large herbivores.
But maybe they were mostly aquatic. Think about it: what modern carnivores that have really large heads? Fish, frogs, whales, alligators. Water can more easily support large heads than air.
Plus this idea of large herbivores is questionable. Most carnivores attack much smaller herbivores. (Even in Jurassic Park, T. rex was attacking puny humans.) Consider Triceratops. What do modern herbivores use their horns for? Defending themselves against large carnivores? No, battling each other for mates.
Ultimately, science is about imagining and exploring. You can’t teach science as a texbook-based subject. I remember a being taught by a brilliant cardiologist. I asked him, “What textbook do you recommend.” He answered, “You can’t learn cardiology from a textbook.” Then I remembered my university science courses. I hardly used any textbooks. I studied class notes, and read course syllabi and research papers.
You have schools using textbooks to teach “science”. This is ignorant. People who want textbook standards to teach “creation science” or stochastic evolution, are both equally stupid.
Ian, The Zionists have set “racism” as a major item in their propaganda and you’re swimming uphill. The Zionist’s spin is very difficult to overcome as you can see the difficulty I’m having when the evidence is overwhelming as to Zionist cruelty, therefore you should use a different approach.
Start with birds of a feather and work backwards. Never attack an enemy on their battleground, but choose instead how, when, and where to do battle.
Start by leaving off the slogans.
Read my post and see the difference.
Races already practice so-called “racism” as demographics indicate.
The Zionist had in mind to create a mallada race of people who they could control while leaving their race and religion in tact.
It didn’t work.
Zionists have created more hatred toward good Jews worldwide which was also designed to increase “victim status” for Zionist-Israel.
Heartlander, to support your idea of craftsmanship, you need only look at food beyond micky d’s.
The buying of locally grown, high quality food is the biggest trend in the food biz now. Right behind is the “identity preserved” movement. Consumers dont just want apples, they want Washington apples.
We cant all be craftsmen because that is like all of us taking in each other’s laundry. But the junction of commodity vs. specialty products is where many of us, across industries, can find a self employemnt niche.
Same with creative work, which is also associated not just with visual or performance art but craftsman work as well. Richard Florida nailed it in “The Rise of the Creative Class”.
Couple that appreciation of creativity and craft with information work, throw in a whole service industry, and you have the new economy.
I do worry though that much of this is a result of the increasing gap between the incomes and wealth of the “haves” and the “have nots”.
All this high quality specialty consumer behavior requires more money than comodity life. And so does buying services we used to do ourselves. Like housecleaning and car washing.
Great for the new haves and “have mores” as bush said. Not so great for the ever increasing numbers of “have nots”.
May 13th it is. I will be driving down for that. XXX, golf at Sims friday the 12th?
I can’t believe that you intelligent folks let Ian bait you into responding to him.
Don’t dignify that contemptible crap with a response, please.
He’s a very neurotic inDUHvidual with nothing left to take pride in except for the sick lie of his “pure” DNA.
KSFG, thanks for something interesting, as always.
“You have schools using textbooks to teach ’science’. This is ignorant. People who want textbook standards to teach ‘creation science’ or stochastic evolution, are both equally stupid. ”
Ok, heart, I’ll bite. Give me a SUCCINCT idea of what you’d do, if you could–assuming you’re capable of that. . .
galahad=proudlib=lefthook! lmosrfao
V.L.R.B!!
Yer welcome LH! Glad you found it interesting. Food talk always gets me writing :)
Watch 60 Minutes this week for the scoop on bushlies about intelligence leading up to the invasion of iraq.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/21/60minutes/main1527749.shtml
And we trust this guy with iran?
By the way, JR, absent exceptional circumstances, my answer remains yes, and I welcome anyone else who isn’t bringing hostility or automatic weapons. . .
LH, It may come as strange to you but it’s called the 1st Amendment. { Freedom of speech and the press }
It is also an official US policy as racism and bigotry are openly practiced in Israel, financed by the United States, but I don’t hear a G-d-F word decrying what those bastards are doing from you.
The Pot calling the Kettle black?
Seems your own house needs cleaning.
Ed–
Do you even read what I post?
I’m one of the few people that basically agrees with your analysis of Israel and Palestine. To paraphrase Pat Buchanan, The White House is Israeli occupied terrority.
But Ian is such a moron.
He has a right to speak, but we have a right to tell the truth–the man is a moron.
ksfarmgrrl
And 2367 soldiers have lost their lives, with 19,000 loosing their arms and legs.
Hanging a president is a serous matter, but with Bush it’s the right thing to do, given the overwhelming evidence.
JR, I’m in.What time?
LeftHook
I respect you and don’t mean to degrade you in any way, but I’m super-sensitive about Constitution rights.
Much of what we all feel is born of frustration, and overkill is all just a part of that.
I have studied the Constitution over many years and the Federalist papers containing the debate of those founding fathers, so dedicated to establishing justice.
I apologize to you for painting with such a wide brush.
It just wasn’t fair.
Changing the subject to cool down the former one — Shocker’07 (the Arena cheerleader) and I (the arena cruncher) have each posted two fairly long commentaries regarding the proposed arena on the EAGLE’s blog, “Is schools need, a trumped up excuse for more gambling?”
This blog is now quite a ways down and our comments are toward the bottom of it. I thought some of you who might be interested in the controversial proposed arena might want to add your comments pro or con.
hi KFG,
As American history goes, in a mterialstic sense , we are always going to see “have mores”, “have lesses” and “have nots”.
The question is, how much do we want to change the ratios, and in which direction?
If you think about this forum, it is really amazing. Originally, the Eagle was totally controlled by its founder. Marshall Murdock. According to WSU historian Craig Miner’s reportage, Mr. Mudock may have had syphiillitic brainn damaage.
“Forest City”. “The Nile of America”. I think any sensible person can agree that Marchall Murdock was clinically insane.
But now we have an Eagle-provided website for Kansans to express their views. Could not have happened a century ago, or event a half century ago. Granted, it tooka Californian-led corporation to open this up, ‘but that is progress
Has anybody ever noticed that with all of Ed’s rants against, Isreal,zionst,Jews ect. He has a Jewish surname? Sort like how Ian is a anti-immigrant anti-latino. Immigrant Latino.
I wish Ed would do a better job of explaining that his beef (I think) is with Israeli Zionism’s foreign policy rather than with Jews.
He gets a lot of grief for that; some of it is deserved, too.
Ian’s beef with Jews, otoh, appears to be just that.
I have a good friend in China, an American, whom I saw gutted, figuratively, in ex-pat international-politics websites over this very issue. My friend, though, is much, much better at explaining his position.
In the end his clarity didn’t matter, President Bush’s American ex-pat supporters (i.e., mostly ex-military or lawyer goons) effectively blurred his position with knee-slapper tarrings like “oh no, it’s the jooooos again :rolleyes:”.
Hi Rage,
These kids were taught: here’s how an internal combustion engine works. Now you can increase its power ouput by injecting some nitrous oxide. The oxygen in NO2 combines really fast with the hydrocarbons in gasoline, Then you can also add superchargning to get more oxygen into the cylinders. ‘Course you will also need tires that are wide enough to transform engine energy into wheel drive. Also need a bigger and stronger clutch plate to handle power transfer.
That’s applied SCIENCE, Baby.
I haven’t seen posts from Guy up north in awhile.
I wonder if he is too far up North to come to the meet up.
I think the meet up should start about 1 and go from there. Thoughts? I know some folks are coming a long way and they might not want to drive home in the dark.
I studied a different science, how to play with bio-molecules. It was still playing, Baby. That’s what all science is. Science is PLAYING. When I was 9, most of my friends wanted baseball mits to play. I wanted a microscope to play. I still played ball-busting a neighbor’s window playing street ball. I played on my hs football team–got cut from baseball, because the freshman coach was incompetent. On Senior Day, I threw a ball from 250 feet. Landed RIGHT IN THE MITT of the catcher, who was the varsity baseball coach. He tagged out the guy who was trying to make home. I made him think, “F’**k, why issn’t this center fielder on my team?” Because the frosh coach was incompetent. A dittzle brain.
Recently someone touched on a subject that I have given some real thought to, “a living wage”. A couple of decades ago I thought if I ever made twenty two thousand a year I would be on easy street. That was the early eighties and now realize that is really not that much in a world where a modest home now cost one hundred thousand and a new car is forty thousand or so I hear. Every time the Baseball players go on strike because they only make a few million a year. It begs the question of how much is enough? I understand that they have a short professional life span. Thirty is old in the major leagues and there is the possibility of a career ending injury. But how much do they really need to be set for the rest of their life?
Now what is a living wage? ten dollars an hour, thirteen, eighteen? I have heard some that make thirty dollars an hour complain that they are not making enough. While other say that seven dollars an hour would be a great wage and would consider them self happy to be making it. In nineteen thirty eight when the minim wage was established it was a quarter an hour. In order to have the same buying power of that 1938 quarter, minim wage would have to be ten dollars an hour today!
Part of the problem is we do not have a clear definition of “broke” in this country. An example: Two men meet on the street, one is the man who make thirty dollars an hour and is use to having two hundred dollars in his pocket. The other makes seven dollars an hour and is use to having twenty dollars in his pocket.The thirty dollar man is down to seventy five dollars, while the seven dollar man is down to ten dollars in his pocket. Both can relate to how ruff life is lately, both feel that they are not where they feel they should be. Both admit to being broke, finally the thirty dollar man suggest that they have lunch at the up scale restaurant down the street that the cheapest meal is twenty dollars. Of course the seven dollar man said he can not because he is broke. Both men are sincere when they state they are broke, but one can not understand ever just having twenty dollars to his name and the other would think having seventy five dollar in his pocket would make him the riches man in the world. Yet both men do have money and are not broke in the truest sense of the word when it comes to money.
Right now in the United States wages are trying to find the bottom, again there are those that think seven dollars an hour are good wages. Yet the American dream can not be had for those wages and demands a tightening of one’s belt. The cost of living more reflects the thirty dollars an hour then the seven dollars an hour. Again, what is a living wage? In the bigger picture it now takes a two worker household where both parents work. Yet it can be argued that the absence of a parent at home could be the cause of many of society’s ill. Some time ago bankers and business did not consider the wife’s wages when thinking of buying power. The wife could be making tens of thousands more then the husband, but loans and credit was only calculated based on the husband’s wages. But then banks saw this untapped wealth out there and realized that they could make even more money by counting in the money a wife could make. Prices started going up and soon it was not a matter of extra income to the family but it taking both husband and wife working just to try for the American dream.
I got paid yesterday and will not say how much my take home was, one reason falls back on the broke argument. There are some that would read the figure and say “Gee I wish I made that much” and other would say “how could anyone survive on that?”. When the figure is well below what my oldest son brings home in the same two week span. LoL he is broke to!
My suggestion to the topic of wages? In this global economy, where the American worker is not only in rivalry with the other company down the street but with the company thousands of miles and an ocean away.Is we must lower the cost of living, the American consumer base which businesses depend on for their livelihoods. Is becoming anemic and soon will not be able to feed the businesses at the rate that they wish.Nor will the American worker be able to afford a standard of living that is beyond mere survival.
On the level of continuation of the species that will do, on the level of human nature is will be mind numbing. And dire I say un-American, it has been the American dream that in part has made this country a great place to live. That has drawn the immigrants to this country from the masses of Europe to the illegals that pour across our Southern broader. The market, the cost of living will balance its self in time either through the masses becoming poorer or the prices coming down to match the wages. Either the businesses will soon find that they are not longer able to survive, or they will also have to adapt to their consumer base.So, what is a living wage?
Hi Ed,
Do you have an objection to bringing all Iraelis over here? F**k Israel. F**k this idea of Israel triggering Armageddon. We have 10 million or so “illegal immigrants” from Mexico. Can we acommodate 6 million Jews from Palestine? What do you think, Ed? Can we do this, or not?
writerdog, the definition of a living wage is *the* $64,000 question.
Food for thought vis-a-vis President Bush and today’s GOP flava:
“It’s forgotten that the president’s proposal to privatize part of Social Security was not primarily about creating solvency in the system, since the creation of private accounts would have aggravated deficits for a significant period. It was part of a larger effort to reorganize government and bring the New Deal era to a definitive close.
The president’s “ownership society” was a political project designed to increase Americans’ reliance on private markets for their retirements and, over the longer run, on their own resources for health coverage. The idea was that broadening the “investor class,” a totemic phrase among tax-cutting conservatives, would change the economic basis of politics — and create more Republicans.
The collapse of the Social Security initiative was thus more than a policy failure. It was a decisive political defeat that left Bush and Rove with no fallback ideas around which to organize domestic policy. And just as the growing unpopularity of the war in Vietnam after 1966 forced Lyndon Johnson to abandon his Great Society programs — partly because of large GOP gains in Congress during that year’s midterm elections — opposition to the Iraq war is undercutting Bush’s effort to create a kind of Great Society-in-reverse.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/20/AR2006042001351.html
Witterdig is figuring things out/
JR -1:00p.m. sounds good to me and we can go from there.I’m looking forward to it :)
Julie, um, errr, ahhh, could you perhaps bring your whizinator? Andf could you maybe model it for us and show us how it works? Errr, ummm, ahhh, maybe you and KFG could demonstrate it together? ;-)
Brian!
Does that mean you will be coming?
Errrr,,,,,,,,
Will you be attending?
JR,
No, can’t. I have a job in Trinidad teaching at the University. I’ll be back in town in July, August. Maybe then . Thanks for thinking of me :-}
Gasp..can it be? A democrat resigned from the ethics committee because of ETHICS problems??
Say it isn’t so…I thought it has been made clear here that Democrats are saints…
“These kids were taught: here’s how an internal combustion engine works.”
Okay, heart. Moving along, I assume you want kids to do similiar type of experiments in biology class. Nothing wrong with that.
However, school days are limited in time–problems of logistics, complexity and cost aside, not every experiment can be done when you only have a hour each day. And textbooks do, if fact, serve several purposes–particularly for homework.
Also, some things are just beyond the primary and secondary schools levels, and must of neccesity be simplified a bit, or explained en toto. How would you have a classroom analog to Darwin’s finches, or the double-slit experiment?
I remain deeply troubled that a state political body is committed to rejecting the very DEFINITION of science (and for OBVIOUSLY personal religious reasons), and will no doubt take the same approach to quality textbooks. Nor is it likely they will take much interest in increasing the type of “hands-on” science you’re advocating, particularly when it comes to evolution.You should be troubled, too.
Thanks, Ed, don’t sweat it, I’ve got a thick skin, heh.
Rap–what Dem resigned? I hadn’t heard.
BTW, Dems aren’t all saints. Old BJ Bill should have resigned and let Al Gore run for president when the Monica scandal broke. Instead, he brazened it out and made it a lot harder for Gore to win in 2000.
Gore DID win in 2000, but not by enough to contest the Supreme’s awarding of the Florida electoral votes (where a Bush brother is govenor and Kathleen Harris the Bush election committee chairman were counting the votes).
Go figure.
Still, if Clinton had done the right thing, we be talking about President Gore right now instead of the Worst. President. Ever.
Right . . . where the hewll id gfun and will he make it? I understand he’s way older than me. I wanna arm rastle him.
Dear Rage,
Yes I am troubled. We have Factory Age schools. Great concept, a century ago. Now they are useless, because our kids aren’t entering a factory-based economy. Schools must prepare kids for the future. They can’t do that if they are intrinsically modeled on the past.
It’s really simple. Add -5 to +5 and what do you get?
On double-slit experiment, been there, done that, in 1970. You see light and dark bands. Interference. On breeding finches, good idea. Darwin bread fancy pigeons.
“On double-slit experiment, been there, done that, in 1970. You see light and dark bands. Interference.”
Okay, approx. how much would it cost to set up for, say, a junior high school class? And would it be worth it?
BTW I’ve done some theory testing. Taught one kid math. He became an algebra tutor at age 16. Before I taught him, he was a straight B math student. Another became a calculus tutor at age 17. According to his fifth grade teacher, he was the “dumbest” math student in her class. Funny, how they both scored perfect 800’s on the SAT Math Level II test. I’ve got another one who’s going to start college next year. He’s going to be studying organic chemistry, multivariable calculus, and physics. As a first-semester freshman. In a top-10-ranked research university (according to US News and World Report). I’ve got another one who’s completing geometry. As a 7th grader.
Guess what? I can’t get a teaching certificate, without additional training. I did research at age 19 in electron microscopy. Then I did radioisotope tagging and isolation of RNA at age 21, and then invented the first effective blood substitute prototype. Got into med school with a PERFECT MCAT Science subtest score. The test was trivial. I didn’t go to a Kaplan course or prep for it in any way.
I taught organ a summer physiology and pharmacology pre-course to minority med students twenty-eight years ago. I created my own course. My students came in with weak science backgrounds, but they had a wonderful willingness to learn. Some of them were the children of undocumented immigrants. Didn’t matter to me, I just wanted great students. And they were terrific students.
I gave lectures to professors at age 22. At that age I also wrote a comphrehensive 59 page literature survey on the pineal gland, melatonin and circadian rhythms Read 500 primary research literature articles and cited 104. Spent 12 hours a day in the stacks for a month–being granted access to protected library archives that you couldn’t get into. Yeah, I guess I know some science. Yeah, I guess I know how to teach kids who are motivated in science and math.
Today, chem and bio degree students often spend 1000 hours in the lab doing UG research projects before they graduate. Not “chemistry major” and “biology major” education-degree students. You can’t teach science unless you know science. Ed schools don’t teach their trainees science. Sorry, but they just don’t. They were Intelligently Designed, for a past age. They’re obsolete today.
There was a great science historian at my university named Thomas Kuhn, author of “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions”. He introduced the terms “paradigm” and “paradigm shift” to the public lexicon. You’ve probably heard of these terms. Science education needs a paradigm shift.
When I say I’m teaching geometry to a 12 year old, I mean I’m having him solve problems like:
Given a right cylinder whose height is the same as its diameter, prove that the sum of volumes of a sphere of same diamter and right cone of same diameter and height as the cylinder equal the volume of the cylinder.
Given a right triangle with a specified opposite angle measure and adjacent leg length, use arctan to calculate the other leg and hypotenuse’s lengths.
For a triangle whose three side lengths are given, use the Law of Cosines and a calculator to estimate its area.
Oh, I guess we’re talking trigonometry. I want my student to study calculus when he’s 14. Wichita schools cannot yet fathom this, can they? Maybe I’m going to change this. I’m gonna at least try. Even though I don’t qualify for a teaching license, cuz I’m not “properly educated”. Riight.
BTW, I was a National Merit Scholarship Finalist. On the PSAT day, I had a 101 fever from the flu. I bombed the math test, but made NMS Semifinalist on my verbal score. Should have made NM Scholar, given another test day. S**t happens.
Heartlander,
Pineal gland? Is that the “internal clock” gland that dictates sleep? I know about melatonin. I’ve taken it at times when sleep has been a problem. I should’ve taken some tonight…
I asked for and got a microscope for Christmas when I was 9 or 10. My cousin (a nurse) and her hubby (a doctor) gave me several bottles of dye to help with my “education.” I wanted to be a research scientist. Then I had a terrible science teacher in sixth grade and ended up with a mental block. It still takes me several readings of the simplest of science to understand what it means. Math, unfortunately, is the same.
Computer Geeks
What does it mean to “subscribe to this blogs feed”? What is the format of the information coming in? Why would someone do this?
For those interested in the technical side of things, there is a new engine being worked on, the splitcycle engine, that promises to raise the efficiency of the liquid fueled engine from 33% to 40% while dropping emmisions by 85%. I have been following this for awhile and think it is the real deal. They have an uphill battle before them, but it does look promising:http://www.scuderigroup.com/technology/the_technology.html
Wow, great posts here for the most part. RD, I had the same experience with math that you had with science. If heartlander could make me even COMPETENT in math, he would be a genius. Imagine how hard it was to be a finance major with my math skills.
Writerdog has the essential question about what is a living wage. Cities like Lawrence and Austin have wrestled with that question for years. You cant ask the question of living wages without talking about standard of living and the choices we make.
I have a pal out here who lives like a king on less than $12,000. Of course, he works on his own 30 year old truck, he cuts and burns wood for heat, has no a/c, no cable or satillite, no health insurance, no television or internet, and he lives in his family’s hundred year old house that is falling down around his ears.
But he is free and happy, out of debt, doing what he loves, and answering to virtually no one but the grain markets. We all wish we were as free as he is, but few of us would be willing or even able to live his life.
Someone said once “ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choices”.
I dont have an answer about what IS a living wage, but I can tell you, minimum wage isnt it. Even out here where you can buy a nice house for $30,000.
I also did not hear about anyone resigning from the ethics commission. I did hear governor leadership has the same problem as phill klein and kay “women shouldnt have gotten the vote” O’Connor.
I do not defend ANYONE of ANY party for ethics violations. Dirty is as dirty does. However…
It doesnt take much these days to get in trouble with the ethics commission. Campaign finance and reform laws are good, but adding more nitpicky details without REAL reform for the big money is insane. it does protect incumbents.
Those “little” reforms just make it more difficult, as someone said, for third parties, and it CERTAINLY doesnt stop the big money operators in both parties from gumming up the system.
In fact, astute political operatives will use the ethics rules to harrass their less sophisticated opponents to DEATH with little crap that they report to ethics. Then ethics has to investigate, the candidate must respond, and by the tenth time that happens, a small political campaign has no time to actually raise money or CAMPAIGN for cryin’ out loud.
Just ask bonbon’s opponents.
Having said that, I also have high praise for Carol Williams and the Ethics Commission staff. They have always been unfailing professional and unfailingly fair in their dealings with the campaigns and PACs I have worked on.
They really do a great job, and they also put out ALL the information anyone needs to know who finances candidates.
And did I mention they are ALWAYS under the gun and under pressure from the big politicos in the state? They not only do a great job, but they do it under difficult circumstances.
Once again on that living wage thing….
John Prine always has the answers.
“Blow up your tv’s, throw away your papers, move to the country, build you a home. Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches, try and find jesus on your own”.
Of course I like the first verse too. :)
“She was a level headed dancer, on the road to alcohol, and I was just a soldier, on my way to Montreal”.
I know this is a regional editorial blog with some US foreign policy thrown in, but on this open thread I’ll just tell yall that I was up until like 3am this morning watching one of my favorite – as well as one of the most memorable – films of all time, Luis Bunuel’s “Belle de Jour” on IFC last night.
BdJ was made in 1967 and by today’s standards its understated symbolism is probably comes off as weak or even boring, but I have found that certain scenes have been lodged in my head far, far longer scenes from some newer movies.
I don’t do late night very well any more, sigh. *yawn*
Anyway, any other film buffs around here? What do you think the big Japanese guy had in his lacquered box?
Flike, sorry, but the only japanese program I watch is Iron Chef, the original version. Like watching a godzilla movie on cooking :)
And JR, one pm for the start time works for me, but I can work around the schedules of other people. I drive early, and I drive late, and it is light here until almost nine. I dont mind driving in the dark.
In fact, I do some of my best work in the dark…. heheh. Are ya listening Brian? heheh.
You ought to try catching this movie, kfg. I think you might find it pretty interesting.
It’s a little like listening to Hank Williams today – slightly boring but only because damn near everything written afterward is so derivative. Or Woody Guthrie after listening to John Prine. Or loving the movies of David Lynch, who owes so much to the romantic surrealist Luis Bunuel.
It’s French, btw.
Heckler,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_(protocol)
I’m with ya, KFG ;-)
For those of you that missed CNN yesterday, here is a part of the news release…about a Democrat? Gasp…
Mollohan, of West Virginia, will be replaced by Rep. Howard Berman of California, a former ranking Democrat on the panel. Mollohan has denied any wrongdoing.
The only evenly divided panel in the House, the Committee on Standards of Official Conduct has been divided along partisan lines for the past 16 months and unable to launch any major new investigations. If Mollohan had stayed while under his own ethics cloud, the chances for the stalemate to end would have been almost impossible.
The Wall Street Journal reported two weeks ago that Mollohan steered millions of dollars to nonprofit groups in his district — with much of the money going to organizations run by people who contribute to the lawmaker’s campaigns
Mary McCarthy,Sandy Burgler, Richard Clark, and Joe Wilson. All linked. Interesting.
Ain’t kikeocracy and our “two party system” grand? rotflmosrfoa
V.L.R.B!!
Talked to a Finn the other day, he was wondering about the gasoline culture in America, in particular the mindset regarding fuel consumption. He suggested that perhaps the US should stop thinking about how far can one go on a gallon of fuel, and start thinking how much fuel is needed to go a distance of, let’s say, 100 miles. This way, he claimed, there would be a more tangible and direct measure of gas consumption. Or, he joked, that the US could finally rejoin the rest of the world and switch to metric system. After all, at a glance, $0.99/liter gasoline might seem to be a bargain! Actually, that doesn’t sound too farfetched these days…
Brian,For the record (ya perv;) ) I do not own a whizinator. I’ve seen several and had to confiscate a few.Sorry we won’t get to meet in May or June. Hope you’re able to attend a get-together in the future.
Hey all,I went to the Wood Carvers Exhibition at Century II this afternoon. Guy from up North is exhibiting. He’s got some amazing stuff, very talented, but of course I prejudiced. For the few of you who don’t know and in reference to one of Hank’s snotty comments (We’re not the only father son team on this blog), Guy from up North is my Dad.
Go check it out if you have time, and say hi to Pop. He’s the one with the beautiful carving of 2 battling bull elk (with a first place ribbon). He picked up a total of 8 ribbons.Hours are 10am to 4 pm Sunday.
Thanks, X. My speculations about Hank’s comment tended to include Guy, but I had no idea who junior was! :)
That sounds really cool, X. I wish I could do that.
Maybe I’ll try it someday.
Rap–
Uh . . . huh?
Bush. In your guts, you know he’s nuts.
By the way, glad to see Roo(-ster) is back.
Your posts started thinning out about the same time I turned into a pathetic junkie! :)
Wish I had known about that X (the woodshow part) I’d have went.
I posted here the other day that Gfun had not posted in awhile and I wondered if he was too “far up north” to come to the meet up.
Since X immediately jumped on Hank after his comment, we mighta guessed that–but I didn’t!
I have less than an hour, if I can just get out the door!
Wow, whole lotta cool stuff, X. Wish I woulda got there sooner!
But I have Guy’s card now. :)
Rage, what did you think of the bull elk?
XXX
I think that Elk needs to start telling the truth.
Awesome, X.
Joe Williams and others,
Regarding Joe’s Peerless Tower idea and his comparison to Seattle’s Space Needle, here’s an article that lays out the financial and other challenges beseting Seattle Center. File this under public/private initiatives, and the question of civic projects and collective effort in the building of community.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/267794_seattlecenter24.asp
Sorry I didn’t get a chance to make it to the woodcarving expo. It’s probably a good thing though. I would have come up with a list of “honeydo’s” for hubby to make:)
Julie…. I am sorry you will not be at the meetup. I wanna meet both you and your hubby.
And for the record, I dont own a whizonater either.
Never needed one…. :)
KFG- You had better be careful! I hear that SILLYPHIL the Kline is trying to decide if it’s legal to move Potato salad across county lines for personal consumption. You’d better take the back way to Wichita, disguise optional.
JRThank you for the invite.That’s 13th @ 1:00 PM ? Where?I have been out of touch and am behind, as usual.
RageThanks for showing up I enjoyed our visit.
XXX/WalkerInvite me and I may join you (if mommy will give me an out pass) but let me worn you, be prepaired to get beat, I always make the highest points.
That’s two raps on the knuckles for KFG.
Julie is sorry BRIAN cannot be at the meet up.Last I knew she was still gonna be there.
Watson Park Guy. Good to see you again.
I gotta see about some tables there. It’s like less than 4 weeks away and I’ve not seen to that yet.
Be warned all. I am going to be armed. I am bringing my water gun. My son Nathan will also likely be with me. So you likely will get to HEAR me as opposed to reading me say:
“Nathan stop it!” “Be quiet Nathan” ” Nathan get out of that tree!”
KFG,I am most definately planning on being there. I’m trying to drag hubby too. (He’s kinda skeptical considering my perverted emails from rom – wants to do the manly kicking rom’s ass.)Probably won’t bring the oldest kids (have to bring the youngest seeing that she’s still attached literally) that and the fact that I get to have intelligent conversation that doesn’t involve the words “‘Cause I’m the mommy that’s why”well that and I’m craving potato salad and I understand that you make the best :)
JR -Yes Watson Park has tables. Don’t know if you have to reserve shelters or not.
Ok, sorry. I am glad Julie and hubby will be there, and sorry that Brian will not be there.
Glad GFUN will be there too. Why not bring your long suffering wife along? :)
How about “gittin’ madder by the minute”?
JR, your son needs to wear a shirt that says “not THAT nathan”. :)
GFUNsterYou got the invite, but only if you wera a r-shirt that says, “Nathan for Prez”:-) And your wife wears one that says, “I’m with Stupid.” :-)
Seriously, amigo, it would be a pleasure to meet you and I hope you can make it.
How old is this “other” Nathan?
My God, if Kline goes after KJF for the tater salad crossing county lines, what’s he going to do to me if I bring sausages across county lines? Will I have to have a member of the female persuasion carry them? Will it have to be reported to Connie Morris? Will she show up and personally conviscate them?
Opps, kfg. Who the hell is this KJF?
Walker,Hey! I’m planning on carrying browies across county lines and everybody knows what goes in the “good” ones.:)No I’m not going to make “those” but they will be totally homemade (not from a box).
Ben,If I remember correctly from an earlier blog JR’s son is 11.
JM- Dont’t ask, don’t tell and for God’s sake deny it all and take the 5th.
Good tree-climbing age. 911 on speed-dial.
SillyPhil smells TATERGATE!!!
Not THAT Nathan is 11. But his b day is the 9 May so he will be 12.
Based on some of our past posts, Phallus Klienes the AG may choose to ATTEND. Quit giving him probabale cause will ya? I imagine he is not much fun at parties.
Yeah and you thought the worst thing that could happen at a picnic was ants.
Does anyone else wish that Tom Cruise would just dry up and blow away? Or at least that the media would end their non-stop coverage of him and his wack-o ways?
“Thanks for showing up I enjoyed our visit.”
Me too, Guy. I think I’d better bail from the online scene before the weather hits. . .
Gfun,You know you’re always welcome. If this meet up is anything like the last one, you’ll have a ball. Lots of really great people from both sides of the political spectrum. You’re long overdue to meet Walker, and you’ll get a real kick out of KFC. And JR will keep you rolling on the floor! As I’ve said before, he’s a natural. They’re all great people.
I hesistate to call out people (as it might seem to exclude others as unwelcome), but I too would like meet “gittin’,” particularly since I think seeing his nick might have unconciously influenced my own!
What about you, Raptor? We can give you crap in person! ;-)
X?KFC?She is bringing chicken!Earlier, Walker called her KJF.
For our readers, that’s kfg kansasfarmgrrl. Emphasize the grr.I hesitate too to call out names. It seems exclusionary.How bout this?
COME ONE COME ALL… TO THE 2ND WE BLOG MEET UP!!! 13 MAY 2006 AT WATSON PARK!!
NOW COME ON YOU CONSERVATIVES AND BUSHIES! I CAN BE NICE TO YOU FOR A DAY! heh.. hehheh
I do need to start to get a rough idea as to numbers. So Walker and kfg know how much they need to smuggle in and Julie knows how many funny brownies to bake.so we can other wise plan the food.
Look forward to meetin’ ya Gfun.
JR,I’ll be out riding my motorcycle and plan to drop by. I want to see who has warts, two-heads, etc. If I need to bring something, give me a suggestion. This sounds like a good time for all.
JR,What do I need to bring. Single guy here…I don’t cook unless it’s an emergency.
When I cook, it can trigger an emergency, lol!
When I cook, it can trigger an emergency, lol!
I’ll miss you guys! We’re heading out to Colorado that day.
Would be glad to meet ya gster.
Last meetup all I brought was me!
I got the same problem as you X I don’t cook either. Well not unless I can plug in a microwave at the park. Health issues and stuff I don’t eat a lot either anymore.
We will miss ya Damoon.
This is looking lots larger than the last meetup of 10.
So far, I expect XXX, KFG,CM WALKER, RD, RAGE, TARA, Me, Julie and some family, JOE WILLIAMS!, gster. Guy from up north, ben hule, CF,mrcontroversy, not THAT Nathan
Brer Rabbit and Tar baby…I may have already mentioned them, him, or her.Darwins Dsiciple is a maybe.Did I miss anybody?
This piqued my interest:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-castro21apr21,1,5263590.story?page=2&coll=la-headlines-california
DD is a confirmed “No.” He’d have to play hooky from work. :(
MOTHER. And Ian didn’t yes or no.
Don’t forget Tara’s parents. . .
Maybe…on second thought, I think I’ll try to bring a friend instead…it would be a pain in the ass to explain to my worrisome mother that I’m meeting people from the internet. 22 or no, I’m still the baby…sigh.
Let me know if you want me to bring anything: cups, napkins, snacks etc…
We will work out what to bring Tara. You are kinda the draw here as is posted upthread.
I don’t blame you your concern your mom’s concern. And I don’t think anyone would want you to keep her in the dark. You just tell Mom that you are going to meet folks who have a great respect of your intellect and your youthful idealism. And if she still has doubts you bring her along and your dad too and your friend.
I’m thinking there will be plenty of food.
Does anyone live in Northwest Wichita? I’m over by 13th and Maize Road…just in case I can’t find anyone to drag to the picnic, perhaps someone lives near enough to give me a lift? I’m not a rapist or murderer, I swear :)
Tara,”I’m not a rapist or murderer, I swear :)”That’s what all 22 year old female intellectuals say!
Tara,If you cant find a ride either myself or XXX can pick you up. Neither of us is one of the above, except in my case, I’m so old I forgot what I’m supposed to do anyway.
Hey, that would be awesome if you or XXX could pick me up, JR!
Either one of y’all please shoot me an email at “taratc@hawaii.edu” if you can give me a lift…if not, I can ask one of my friends…
I actually have a phobia of driving that originated in 2004 when I was stopped at a red light, minding my business, and a drunk ass punk swerved into oncoming traffic, slamming me head on. Shudder. It scarred me for life.
BTW, JR, I think I was wrong earlier. . I just looked at DD’s previous post and it was a “maybe”–but it depends on whether he “may” have to work.
Picnic idea:How about those of us who can cook will and those who can’t/won’t cook bring the plates/napkins/forks/knives/spoons etc?
Julie, good idea. We always need drinks and plates and forks and stuff. Unless you like to eat ‘tater salad with your fingers…
Tara, if the Wichita folks cant give you a ride, I would be glad to stop on my way in, if you dont mind riding in my dirty truck. I am not a murderer or a rapist either. Just a garden variety pervert with purple chicken and tater salad.
Careful with those sausages Walker. I think Connie likes them and might divert their usage for her own purposes.
The only person less fun at the picnic than phill would be nola.
KJF, KFC, LMNOP, I answer to just about anything. Just like cm walker. heheh. You will recognize me by the chicken grease and mustard on my clothes.
I wish my dog were alive so she could come with me… :(
BUTCH!!!
Heheh. Here is a standard reply to you cruex.
I am twice the man you will ever be and THREE TIMES the woman you will ever have.
Please forgive me folks. I hate to interrupt the planning for the meet up with this little distraction. But I cannot let that last from the blogfart go unanswered.
CrusaderX? What is your problem? Do you enjoy being a paraiah? (Look it up) I’m going to resist the urge to let you bait me into giving you what would be your third public humiliation. It took you more than a month to recover from the last one and come back.
We are talking about a picnic here. I’d like to invite you. But I fear you have made yourself welcome to that gathering in ways that would not lend to you enjoying it. You’d be a center I am sure for some very negative attention.You are invited. I do hope you come. But let me assure you that if you treat anyone there in the manner you just did my friend KFG, I will personally throw you in the lake.
I am going to ignore you now sir blogfart. I encourage others to do the same. I would like to second C Fs call to you some time ago to seek some form of professional help.
Your well earned title As blogfart the first is still yours. You need not keep campaigning.
kfgkcrkhjklm,Camn fine answer to blogfart1’s attempt at ID. (some still aint got outta the monkey stage)
Ks,LOL!Good comeback. Really I’d tip my hat to you if I was wearing one.
Also…
But let me assure you that if you treat anyone there in the manner you just did my friend KFG, I will personally throw you in the lake.
Gosh! That sounded like a threat!Alas, I am verily busy with school that I can not attend the WE Bloggerhead Springer BBQ. JR, can you indeed lift and throw 300 pounds? hehehe
Alas, woe is me! I am so verily put to shame and dejection by the combined forces of Steroid-Abusing Woman and He That Rideth High Horses. Who shall save me from their power of namecalling? Who can stand their white-hot online flames? Amen, amen I say to you: Flee to the hills of other threads and ye shall want of sanctuary. For the terror of Steroid-Abusing Woman and He That Rideth High Horses shall rout and consume thee wherever thine mouse point tread! Alas, I am left destitute and without honor, for the utter weight of shame lay heavily on my withering frame. Forever I am cast out, spurned by the Hand of the Almighty, accursed by God and forsaken from holy Temple. Alas, woe to him who hath disagreed with the Destroyers of WE Blog reputations! For none are safe from the ever watchful eye of the Testosterone-Injecting One and Ye Olde Arbiter of WE Blog Justice- He That Refuseth To Get Off His High Horse!WEBlog 25:34
You did what you did to yourself CrusaderX. I’m no arbiter here and neither is kfg. Her response to you and mine were generated by your attack.
You want to be forgiven?Apologize your last and we will go from there.
I don’t have the power you attribute to me CrusaderX. I am here.I was wanting to work on the meet up.
But if you need to talk I will listen.
Alas, I am thus repudiated for my sins. He That Rideth High Horses doth indeed be merciful! Yet was I stricken with great fear and trembling that I failed to kiss the ring of thy Supreme Pontiff and had fleed for my life else I be consumed by his gathering wrath! He That Rideth High Horses indeed hath no sense of humour and doth take thyself too seriously.
Jeez lighten up man.
Oh come now Crusader. You don’t get to blame me for your past or posts.
Your last few show signs of both intelligence and humor CrusaderX. Why not work to that?
It is not “pontificating” or “asking you to kiss my ring” I’m trying to help.
I dont need testosterone to take your women away. Charm alone will do it.
And potato salad.
Jr, you know where to look for back up.CruX, if having your 300 pound butt thrown into the lake is what lights your candle…..Fun is fun to me.
I just e-mailed Tara, Walker and I can provide her transportation, no sweat.
“fleed for my life”
Ok, serious, is there such a word as “fleed”? I ran it across spellcheck and it doesn’t recognize it. Would it be “fled”? Or “took flight”? I’ll look in my Thesarus to see what’s equivilent to “crawl away with tail between legs”, lol!
Thanks XXX
the blogfarter formerly known as “CrusaderX” needs a new nic. I was just gonna say “thanks X” and that would be confusing.
Good to know Tara is taken care of.
I appreciate the backup XXX. I don’t think Crusaderwhy is gonna show up. He has prior commitments. (school on a Saturday?)But he is a BIG boy or maybe a big BOY and so if he does show and open a can of fat ass, (or crisco) it is reassuring I have you to help me roll him into the lake.
But back to planning.
I am not hearing back from folks. CF? ya gotta be there.
If anyone does not know CF’s post on the “broder” thread was featured on the “greatest posts” of the DU.
Proud lib I want you and your friends there too.
I can bring charcoal. I can light charcoal. I can turn food into charcoal.
Answer back folks. I need to see about tables if this is gonna happen.
JR -I’m sure we’ll need tables.
The purple chicken left an egg on your ‘puter :)
JR, just let me know what kind of cooking gear you need. I have tons… and I could grill too if you turn it to charcoal and hank isnt attending. I hope he will though.
Heheh. Julie and I could grill together. Remember that show on the Food Network called Two Hot Tamales?
That’s us. I am the short one…..
Was that the one with the two English broads that rode around on the motorcycle?Hey – we could do a version of Iron Chef. Bring special ingredients and have to fix something edible without a range or oven. Then again, maybe not.
Hee hee hee Julie… no that was the “Two Fat Ladies”. I qualify for the show title, but I bet you dont.
Two hot tamales is an old show with susan feneger and mary sue mcmillan. They own some restaurants together.
I would be up for an Iron Chef competition… unless the wind blows like it did last time. Let everyone bring an ingredient, like stone soup, and we can take up the challenge. Of course, it might be more like “stoned” soup if I am involved.
Maybe an Iron Bartender competition? :)
I like the Iron Bartender idea but people give me funny looks when I have an adult beverage now. I’m ok if I put my one single glass of wine (won’t drink anything stronger) into a disposable cup but heaven forbid I drink out of a wine glass – the whole preggers thing.
Don’t think of yourself as fat – there’s just more of you to love. ;)
Are you insinuating I’m not a “lady”roflmaoteeheehee
“I am not hearing back from folks. CF? ya gotta be there.”
JR, some time back CF said he’d be bringing his upright bass AND a rack of ribs.
I call that a serious commitment!
Hmmm. . . maybe I should just bring raw, dead animal flesh, rather than threatening to cook myself (ya think?).
HISPANICS UNITE!!!
Remember that the First of May is Boycott day! It is our patriotic duty to God, La Raza, and country to refrain from buying U.S. made goods. All Latinos: Do not go to school! Do not show up for work! Together we shall cripple the Anglo business infrastructure for a whole day, showing the gringo oppressors and invaders that this is OUR LAND! And that OUR PEOPLE are entitled to retain our dignity as human beings! We demand: 1)FAIR WAGES! 2)Legislation from the Anglo government citing that ALL Latinos currently living in this country should be given full amnesty. 3)Legislation providing fair and easy access through the Mexican / Aztlan border. 4)Humane water storage facilities in the Mojave Desert ensuring survivability of our brothers entering Aztlan.
It is time that we take our rights back from the oppressive invader gringos who make obscene profits off our sweat, blood, and toil by giving us less than humane wages!!! Hispanics unite! Let your voice be heard! Demand your rights as a human being, and join us the Nation of Aztlan and be proud of your ancestral native heritage that predates the Anglo invaders! We have always known that America belongs to us, and on the First of May, so shall the gringo invaders!!!
Vivas las Resistance!!!
raw, dead animal flesh
Thanks rage, I’ll never look at my organic steaks the same way again…
heheh. You sound like my girlfriend.
hey, at least Rage’s agreeable to have someone else cook it instead of making us eat charcoal:)
We have 2 weeks(tomorrow) until the meet-up. Can we get a head count to JR so he can reserve enough tables for us?