Although convicted Sept. 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui is eligible for the death penalty, a Virginia jury contemplating his fate this week should think twice about condemning the wannabe hijacker to death.
Executing Moussaoui might not be in the nation’s security interests, according to some analysts. “There’s absolutely no doubt that executing him would turn him into a martyr” and a recruiting tool in the militant Islamic world, terrorism expert Bruce Hoffman of the Rand Corp. told The Washington Post.
It’s also bad public relations, considering most of the world doesn’t believe in capital punishment.
Instead of elevating this failed terrorist, who apparently had little standing in al-Qaida, into a martyr for the cause, it might be better to let him rot in prison for the rest of his life.
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It might make him a martyr.
I agree to execute Zacarias Moussaoui would elevate him to martyr, instead of a failure. To go even farther I want every measure taken to get OBL alive. Neither deserve to be put on a pedestal, but would be at their death.
Oh, yes. The “death is too good for him” straw man argument against the death penalty.
Hard call.
The guy was willing to die for his cause. So death is no punishment for him. Too, it would make him a martyr.
Alive and incarcerated he will still be a martyr of sorts.
Fitting punishment……
I don’t know. Make him head of FEMA maybe.
“You’re doing a heckofa job, Zacahy”
Problem is, if Osama is captured alive or Moussaoui is kept alive (assuming he really is an Al Qaida member)the rest of Al Qaida will unleash holy hell to release them! Better dead, and soon!
An interesting question – one I also ask with guys like Dennis Rader, the Carr brothers, etc. I want to punish them so severely that death just seems to nice. There is a part of me that wants to turn them into science experiments.
I’d put him into a Federal prison on an extremely high pork diet, and make sure he never knows what direction Mecca is. Perhaps a prison cell in Israel is even better. Why give himthe death he wants?
Why don’t we deal with the truth about why we were attacked instead of all this “Terrorism” crap.
Look at the thread language:
“convicted Sept. 11 conspirator” “condemning the wannabe hijacker to death” “militant Islamic world” “Instead of elevating this failed terrorist” “rot in prison ”
Not once have you considered that he’s was doing exactly what you’d be doing {and have done } after being attacked {Pearl Harbor }.
The cause of the 9/11 retaliatory attack is financing Zionist Jews to murder his people every day for the last 60 years. The Zionist killed a 13 year-old boy yesterday for throwing rocks.
“terrorism expert” Bruce Hoffman of the Rand Corp seems to be an expert at “terrorizing” Arabs, does that Zionist slob not expect them to retaliate?
It’s past time to rid the misnomer “terrorism” from our vinacular and start dealing with the real root cause: The trouble-making, international law-breaking Zionist Jews of Israel.
When you set out for vengeance, dig two graves.
Welcome back, Jed! We’ve missed you. Feeling okay?
As a real American, I’d apologize to Zacarias Moussaoui for all the rotten things we financed the Zionist Jews to do and the current murdering of Iraqis and send this dedicated soldier home to his family.
The RAND Corp in Santa Monica, CA has always been a conservative think tank with extremely strong ties to the military and defense industry- this is NOT a “liberal” institution. Mr. Hoffman is probably right–from a conservative’s perspective. Generating martyrs isn’t smart policy.
I was thinking about the Abu Ghraib abuses, which were brought up yesterday by Saddam’s defense attorneys to the court. Having a woman (Ms. Englund) dominate naked Muslim men in photos, and having men Muslim masturbate for photos, etc., was EXTREMELY DEPRAVED.
If the administration’s “Exit Plan” is Armageddon, this is the way to do it. It’s one thing to defeat somebody, it’s another to utterly humiliate them, using an American pornographic theme. It’s a recruitment poster for Islamic men to become insurgents and make it impossible for America to stay in the Middle East.
If the cause that set you to go to war is so weak or nonsensical, that you have to play into another man’s religion to help find justification for yourself, then you don’t have a viable cause.
Mr Hoffman of The Rand Corp may have some high-minded rhetoric, but he’s endorsing some low-life Zionist-Jew “terrorist” crap.
“When you set out for vengeance, dig two graves.”
Or six million, as the case may be, Herr Goering.
“Conservative” does not hold the same values since the Zionists-Jew neoconservative pseudointellectual low-lifes took-over.
It’s all been replaced with greed.
Bush is a “born-again” crackpot Christian and Ariel Sharon did sell him on the end-days myth { while laughing-up his sleeve }.
So, the administration’s “Exit Plan” is probably Armageddon.
The price of crude oil and gold are reflecting a deep concern by traders about the threat of the use of atomic weapons by Israel and the United States against Iran.
Todd, perhaps you missed the busting of the straw man meme
http://lancemannion.typepad.com/lance_mannion/2006/04/a_rhetoric_of_c.html
meme?
HL, When the Washington Post starts to squirm, it’s easy to spot.
Perhaps “terrorism” expert Bruce Hoffman of the Rand Corp might consider dropping the meaningless word “terrorism” from his vernacular, which seems to have become a synonym for “dirty underware in intellectual circles” and catch-up on the fact that both Coverage of the debate over the recent paper by professors Stephen Walt of Harvard and John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago that examines the influence of Israel and its supporters in Washington over US foreign policy has been, mostly, absent from US media. But the paper generated vigorous debate in the British and international media and on the Internet. Since the working paper’s release, there have been several more attacks on it, but also more support for the professors’ position on the need to look hard at the US-Israel relationship.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0406/dailyUpdate.html
Where’d all my Zionists run off to?
Ok, Ok, It’s alright to shoot a little kid for throwing a rock at your Tank. It might break it or scrach the paint or something.
Now, feel better?
This is so typical of the history of why Zacarias Moussaoui was bringing the fight to what Haaretz calls “our largest Jewish City.” { New York City } and the indefensible actions of Zionist Israel.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2122445,00.html
We ought to generate Martyrs as a glaring reflection of our war-crimes against innocent people.
Their cause was pure and just. A retaliation for inexcusable wrongs committed by disgusting degenerate Zionist Jews.
Trying to punish these brave soldiers for our own unpunished depravity is to trying to draw attention away from the decades of our war-crimes crimes against these men, their homes, farms, land and families.
The shame belongs to us, and it seems the Zionists derive great satisfaction in compounding our childlike foolery.
Ed, while I am as quick to fault US support for Israel’s wrong-doing as anyone that still does NOT excuse what Massaoui did.
Ben, Bush’s new numbers may help explain why I’m willing to go out on such a limb. Americans are understanding what the Zionist-Jews, Not Jews in general, have done. Americans are learning, but the rank and file Jews need to condemn the Zionist and stop remaining silent.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12199878/
Ben, This is a daily occurrence and there is no excuse for it. The text is most likely NOT true.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/703730.html
I agree Ed. These are war crimes. However, they still do not justify other war crimes.
Trying to punish these brave soldiers for our own unpunished depravity is to trying to draw attention away from the decades of our war-crimes crimes against these men, their homes, farms, land and families.
So you think Al Qaeda are a bunch of “brave soldiers?” You say that our country deserved the attacks on 9/11? Typical Ward Churchill rhetoric. Please enlighten us Ed, are you one of his colleagues? Perhaps being a gutless traitor is your idea of “patriotism,” however the average sane American or Jew for that matter does not share your other-worldly sentiment. By your surname I would think you are a Jew, that is, if aren’t such a chickenshit to post under a fake name. I’ve been around your “kind” before, the Leftist secularist people of Jewish ancestry that seem to hate everything about Israel is nothing new to me, I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re posting from Long Island.
Have a nice day.
Hey, Have a nice day yourself.
Ben, You’re suggesting that they do nothing for the war-crimes we finance for Israel and the ones we’re committing in Iraq.
If we don’t start applying some commonsense to this problem. it’s going nuclear.
Ed – instead of targeting civilians in office buildings and lowering themselves to the same level there needs to be a better way.
Ben, I agree. Then why do we allow and finance the slaughter of helpless civilians?
Bush said proudly that we had killed 30,000 in Iraq. We leveled Fallujah. { actual number much higher }
Or this? { every day }
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/703730.html
Ed – you will find no disagreement from me on this. Our support for the occupation of Palestine (and previouly of Lebanon) is reprehensible.
Ben, Back to my plan to make peace with the Arabs. That’s the sensible thing for us and the good Jews in Israel.
Put em in a Mexican prison.
The Zionists pushed for the Patriot Act and it would be ironic if it became their undoing.
The next president has the power to jail all AIPAC members as “suspected terrorists” confiscate current Israeli funds, military supplies, atomic bombs, and cut-off all future money for Zionists as funding “terrorism.” Also kick the “settlers” out of the West Bank and form an independent Palestinian State with East Jerusalem as its Capital.
As well as bring justice by trying those Zionists responsible for war-crimes in the World Court.
All that brings gasoline back to a buck a gallon, while Iran would gladly trade its nuclear ambitions to be rid of Zionism.
Problem solved.
Just one more rotten thing, to bring others like Zacarias Moussaoui to us in droves by the millions across our borders.
America can not survive supporting Zionist Israel.
According to the January 20, 2005, issue of the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, “as a result of a secret Israeli government decision, thousands of Palestinians living in the West Bank who own land or homes in East Jerusalem lost all rights to their holdings without any compensation. And there are already plans to build on the expropriated land.” Of course, as of Sunday, January 23, not a single mention of this can be found in any US newspaper or media outlet.
CruzX–Friedmann is a Jewish name. FriedEmann is not.
Had me confused for a while too.
Granted he only knows one song, but that song is basically true.
Israel has been stealing Palestine land from day one. The best book I’ve read on this is by a CHRISTIAN Palestinian (of which there are many thousands that Pat Robertson seems to not give a sh*t about) named Elias Chacour. The book is “Blood Brothers.” Israelis stole their whole village. But they were better off than the neighboring village–that one just got annihilated as in everybody killed . . .
WarH8r, I know lots of songs, but the United States in under the grave threat of a takeover, and that goes to the front burner.
You can’t reason with that little punk because he’s part of the problem, and too stupid to reason his way to the fact he”ll be blown away in the process of a takeover. He’s caught-up in something away over his head.
Israeli “terrorist” busy at their work.
Increased attacks
The Israeli army has killed 14 Palestinians over the past two days in the deadliest spate of attacks in Gaza for five months.On Saturday, eight Palestinian fighters were killed in two separate air strikes.
The Israeli army also killed five resistance fighters and the five-year-old son of one of them in a strike on a car in southern Gaza on Friday.
Israel has ratcheted up military attacks on Gaza since the new Palestinian government led by Hamas took power.
In other developments, a Palestinian teenager died of wounds after being shot in the head during an Israeli incursion on Thursday in the northern West Bank city of Nablus.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E4D19123-9DD3-11D1-B44E-006097071264.htm
Bush’s handlers do not care what the American People think. This small group on Neoconservatives are acting completely on their own, putting the Zionists first.