Final nail goes in Hammer’s political coffin

Staying true to form, Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Texas, blamed "liberal Democrats" for his decision to end his re-election bid. He said that rather than focusing on ideas, the Democrats were making the election about his legal problems and scandals. "I refuse to allow liberal Democrats an opportunity to steal this seat with a negative campaign," he said. This from the man who personified divisive, smashmouth politics.
More likely, DeLay realized that even if he won re-election — a big "if" — he would never be majority leader again. Many observers also suspect that DeLay, who was indicted for alleged campaign-finance violations in Texas, feared being indicted in the expanding scandal that has already captured his former deputy chief of staff, Tony Rudy, who pleaded guilty last week to conspiracy and corruption charges.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

127 Comments

  1. Ben Huie
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy! Now, if the Dems can regain control they should redistrict everything!

  2. Julie
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 1:29 pm | Permalink

    Well KFG and JR are you happy??? You got your thread!!

  3. Brian
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if he’ll get back into the exterminating business? After all, it’s the initial exposure to the fumes that kills brain cells. He’s already past that point.

  4. Gittin' madder by the minute
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    The old Greeks called it hubris. DeLay and Witting/Lake. You can ‘hammer’ people so long, and then they get real tired of it and turn on you. What goes around truly comes around. No tears are going to be shed by this radical, left-wing, union-loving, tree-hugging, church-going, free-thinking, yellow-dog Demmycrat liberal.

  5. flike
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Just heard on NPR that a week or so ago DeLay was given the results of a poll commissioned by him; the sample was taken from DeLay’s Sugarland congressional district. According a reporter, the poll led DeLay, a master vote counter, to conclude that his odds of winning were just over 50% (i.e., even odds he’d lose to a Democrat). The results of this poll, taken together with the results of 2004 (Bush won 65% of the Texas 22nd, which includes Sugarland, while Delay received only 55% in his win there), convinced DeLay that a downward trajectory from a point near the ground anyway couldn’t be overcome.

    Another interesting note: the reporter asked DeLay if he saw anything wrong with staying in $750/night hotel rooms and playing golf while on lobbyist junkets. These junkets cost the US taxpayer nothing, by the way.

    DeLay’s answer? Nope, nothing wrong at all, no regrets: he had absolutely no choice in where these things were held, and you couldn’t expect lobbyists to hold such events at the local Motel 6.

    Apparently the choice of “do I attend, or not” never came up to the master of personal responsibility, Mr. DeLay.

    Absolutely clueless, absolutely tone deaf.

    US politics 101: When you’ve got a very high need for power, and you’re completely insensitive to the integrity of public office, you will crash and burn.

  6. Hank Price
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    Gentle people,

    Democrats, unable to win the battle of ideas in the political arena, rely on trumped up charges to bring a republican down.

    But, let’s look a little closer at your victory, shall we? Because Delay resigned, instead of just not running again and finishing out his term, the democrats in his district will now be running against an incumbant republican next November. This means their chances of winning the seat are null.

    Almost 22 years in the House of Representatives, Delay was one of the most investigated members of Congress since Newt. Why? Because he was beating them in the political arena. He was a conservative. He could raise money. Most investigated since Newt and no charges have ever stuck.

    It will be interesting to see how the trumped up charges play out now that there is no real reason to prosecute him. I bet that by the end of the year they will be quietly dropped.

    Hank

  7. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    From your lips to the FSM’s ears flike. Great post.

    Julie, YES, I am thrilled. I’m just winding up.

    DD, I take back every bad thing I said about Phillip. Thanks!

  8. flike
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    Sorry, that last bit should read “…and you’re completely insensitive to the APPEARANCE of integrity of public office…”

  9. flike
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Hank, Democrats have a snowball’s chance in winning the Texas 22nd no matter what.

    Sheesh, even running against Vlad the Impaler, a.k.a. Tom DeLay, their odds were only 50/50.

  10. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Hank, you might wanna read this:

    “In a separate interview with Time Magazine, DeLay says he plans to make his Virginia condominium his primary residence, a step that will disqualify him from the ballot in Texas and permit GOP officials there to field a replacement candidate. “I can do more on the outside of the House than I can on the inside right now. I want to continue to fight for the conservative cause. I want to continue to work for a Republican majority,” DeLay told the magazine for its online edition.

    It was not clear Monday night whether Texas Gov. Rick Perry would call a special election to fill out the unexpired portion of DeLay’s term, or whether the seat would remain vacant until it is filled in November.”

    Heheh. The stink is so bad they want him out of state. I think the voters of his district are not gonna go for a bait and switch. I know Nick Lampson from my Beaumont days, and he is no neophyte opponent.

    As I read on another blog today… does anyone know where the “War on Tom Delay” convention will be held?

  11. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    Sorry Hank, I couldnt resist reposting this here. Sorry for the repeat.

    I’m bookmarking your words right next to those of conservative columnist Hugh Hewitt:

    “”A Texas prosecutor with a history of abuse of his office, Ronnie Earle, has indicted Tom DeLay. Earle is a sort of Jim Garrison without the integrity. Soon to follow: Giant MSM coverage, show trial, acquittal and exoneration, DeLay’s return to Majority Leader for another 20 years.”

    I see how well THAT prediction went!

    I doubt the bug man would have gone quietly into that good political night if he didnt have a little shove from the white house and the GOP.

  12. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    I dont usually link here to C & L, but what the hell. The koolaide drinkers wont click on it anyway. I’ll save lots of bandwidth here. Too funny.

    http://www.crooksandliars.com

  13. CF
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    The Honorable Most Gentlemanly Hank,

    So, Delay resigns and avoids a battle.

    Seems to me that when the Texas Democrats left Texas rather than face certain defeat in a Statehouse vote over redistricting, you, personally, lambasted them as cowards for avoiding a fight they were sure to lose.

    So, in this case, isn’t Delay a coward for precisely the same reasons? And even moreso, since the internal polling suggested a POSSIBLE defeat for him rather than a certain defeat?

    Or is this just another IOKIYAR, “it’s OK if you’re a Republican?’

  14. FreeStater
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    Hank, you crack me up, man. You gots your story and by golly you’s a-sticking to it!

    It’s those damn LIBERAL DEMS, you know the ones who can’t win an election, have lost the House, lost the Senate, form a permanent minority on the Supreme Court, and allowed GW to win re-election.

    No, they can’t do win the race for dog-catcher, but somehow they can pull strings and plot and contrive and force not one but TWO Speakers of the House to resign in disgrace. Amazing, isn’t it?

    Here’s what my favorite blogger has to say about it, Will Pitt from TruthOut–

    “I guarantee you,” continued DeLay in the report, “if other offices were under the scrutiny I’ve been under in the last 10 years, with the Democrat Party announcing that they’re going to destroy me, destroy my reputation, and that’s how they’re going to get rid of me, I guarantee you you’re going to find, out of hundreds of people, somebody that’s probably done something wrong.”

    That’s right, Tom. It was the Democrat party, that awesome juggernaut of competence and effective action, which has shown time and again lo these past few years its Zeus-like ability to hurl devastating political lightning bolts from its lofty position, which laid you low. They can stand up next to a mountain, so I hear, and chop it down with the edge of their hand.

    Or maybe, Tom, just maybe, all this happened because you are the living embodiment of absolutely everything wrong in American politics. Forget your ideology, and your hateful divisiveness, and your shameless canoodling with the Taliban wing of fundamentalist Christianity. One cannot swing a cat by the tail in Washington DC these days without smacking someone who thinks the way you do. This doesn’t make you unique, but instead only banal.

    No, your criminal misuse of the campaign funding laws, your outright disdain for the rules if they keep you from assuming absolute control, your almost Zen-like ability to operate beyond the confines of conscience and dignity, is why your presence has been a cancer on the body politic since the day you put down your bug extermination gear and tried a power tie on for size, and is why you’re finished now. How deeply were you in the pocket of your contributors? You took an R.J. Reynolds corporate jet to get to your arraignment. There has to be some kind of award somewhere for behavior so brazenly craven.

    There is an award for this, now that I think about it. They call it “unemployment.”

  15. CF
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

    From a Hammer to a puddle of vomit. It’s been a great day for America.

  16. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

    OMG FreeStater, I am laughing so hard I have TEARS! Great post!

  17. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

    CF, do you think it wasnt the possiblity of defeat, but the CERTAINTY of what the future holds?

    Do ya think the bug man knows something about the case against him that we dont know?

    I hear the sound of Rudy singing like a canary.

  18. CF
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl,

    Indeed. Do you prefer Tom Delay in stripes or in orange?

  19. CF
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

    As usual, the rudepundit is definitive. And as an added bonus, his column on what to do with Delay/Queen Termite isn’t even profane.

    http://www.rudepundit.blogspot.com

  20. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    CF, I dont care about stripes vs. orange :)

    I wanna see his prison booking photo or the picture of him being frog marched. I wanna see if he still has that s*** eating grin he had on his last booking photo.

  21. Gittin' madder by the minute
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    Freestater for a Pulitzer. What a fine piece of writing.

  22. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 3:04 pm | Permalink

    Damn, I have to leave for a while. I havent has so much fun since, well….

    …since cheney shot an old man in the face!

  23. Hank Price
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Dear CF,

    Well, since you have finally addressed me with the respect I deserve, I shall deign to answer you.

    I don’t really think that he is a coward, just tired. He was fighting two battles, one if he wins, he stays in Congress but he would never get his leadership roll back. The other, if he loses he’ll land in jail.

    So I don’t think it cowardly to devote all his time for the fight with Ronnie Earl. I think it’s smart.

    Now, on the other hand I do think his fellow republicans in the House are cowardly for basically abandoning him. The rebublicans in Washington have the habit of circling their wagons and then firing inward.

  24. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

    DeLay had to go.He was a brilliant Majority Whip an excellent Majority Leader. He could run legislative and political circles around little Dicky Gephardt and Nancy Pelosi in his sleep.But he did hire some idiots who clearly used their position and his office for personal gain. Unlike Clinton, who said, “Well, we’ll just have to win then,” after the blue dress came out (destroying the great women’s rights defender’s strategy of calling Lewinsky a whacked out stalker) and lie before a federal judge to save his office.DeLay has done the honorable thing where there is wrongdoing or the clear appearance of wrongdoing and resign.Democrats could learn something from this. But they won’t. Thank God.

  25. Hank Price
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:40 pm | Permalink

    I agree with you Joe, Delay did have some very agressive fund raisers. He raised a lot of money, some from questionable sources. A mortal sin if you are a republican.

    Of course, if you are a democrat, you get a pass. They get mney from foriegn governments, felons, a cut of all the union dues paid in America, collections in all of the black churches, money funneled in through Buddist nuns………

    Hank

  26. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Please. “Honorable” and Tom DeLay do not belong in the same paragraph let alone sentence.

    Sentence…….I like that word.

    I LIKE THAT PICTURE!

    Who is that on the chain gang with De Lay in the pic at the top?

    A guy like De Lay does not quit without a REALLY good reason. And it aint to keep his seat GOP.

    This mean little animal is scared. He probably hopes this will be enough to stop the digging.

  27. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:44 pm | Permalink

    Oh and to all the cons ?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA.

    This will be a day long remembered. We have seen the end of De Lay. We will soon see the fall of bush and the whole corrupt house of Cards.

  28. Hank Price
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:48 pm | Permalink

    Dear JR,

    It’s a magical, wonderful little dream world you live in.

    Tell me, what color is the sky in your world?

    I love ya, keep posting.

    Hnak

  29. Ben Huie
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:54 pm | Permalink

    Joe is absolutely correct – DeLay has been the consummate politician. He perfectly represents all that is bad in our political system. And he can run circles around anyone in doing do.

  30. Julie
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Hank,I think that JR is borrowing my rose-colored glasses :)That’s ok, I’ll share.

  31. Joe Williams
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

    Excellent! Tom Delay … Good Riddance. Now they can replace the corrupt Republican with a clean Republican. :) Good things will happen.

  32. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

    Future’s so “bright”

    I gotta wear SHADES!

  33. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

    WE Editors: Great Photo at the start of this thread!

    According to Frank Luntz, Republican strategist:

    “It’s hard to believe that in just 12 years, Republicans could end up in the same situation that it took Democrats 40 years to get in,” said Republican strategist Frank Luntz.

    “Luntz, who was once Gingrich’s pollster and who helped orchestrate the 1994 “Contract With America,” a set of unifying GOP policy initiatives, said the GOP majority now seems “tired” and those speaking out for change and innovation “are just not being noticed.”

    Repubs – stay the course, you guys are doing great!

    Rest of the article here:

    http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/politics/14262891.htm

  34. raptor
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Well gee…seems there is no need for a trial. Obviously he is guilty and might as well just go straight to jail.

    Uh…was there something about “innocent until PROVEN guilty” that was missed here? If he is convicted, he deserves the punishment proscribed by law.

    Of course,…on here DeLay has been tried, convicted and sentenced. Good thing this blog is not his (or anyone else’s) jury. Without seeing the indictment, without seeing the evidence, without hearing the witnesses, people here have proclaimed him guilty.

    Nope…no pre-judging here. Nope, none at all…some news stories and people here are ready to string him up. Anyone ever hear of a system of justice? Or doesn’t that apply to people you don’t like?

  35. heartlander
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 7:00 pm | Permalink

    In California, the Terminator (aka Governator) is going down. In Texas and the Beltway, the ant-and-termite Exterminator is going down.

  36. heartlander
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 7:02 pm | Permalink

    Or maybe DeLay can return to his old bidness eradicating six-legged insects, instead of two-legged ones.

  37. Joe Williams
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 7:41 pm | Permalink

    Actually Heartlander. DeLay was a failure in the extermination business. He went bankrupt on that. Having nothing to do a friend of his convience him to run for office in the Texas Legislature. The rest is history.

  38. heartlander
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    Are you saying that Mr. DeLay was like the failed oil-lease bidnessman Mr. Bush, who finally made money resorting by becoming a socialist in running a baseball team playing in a taxpayer-funded new stadium that his private-enterprise backers refused to pay for themselves?

    Gee, the same socialist president who gave taxpayers’ money to Halliburtun.

    Howcum he doesn’t tell America, “I’m a socialist”?”Putin and I get along, because when all is said and done, we’re both Communists”?

  39. Posted April 4, 2006 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    DeLay has done the honorable thing where there is wrongdoing or the clear appearance of wrongdoing and resign.Democrats could learn something from this. -Joe Blow

    Well since fair is fair and you expect the Democrats to resign if there is even the appearance of wrongdoing then how about these people (for starters)?

    -Rep. Gary Miller (R-Calif.) pushed for a provision in last year’s transportation bill that allowed the city of Rialto, Calif., to shut down its airport.

    By doing so, he paved the way for his business partner, Lewis Operating Corp., one of his top campaign contributors, to buy the land from the city and make plans to build Renaissance, a community consisting of 2,500 homes, parks and 80 acres of retail space on the former airport property and adjacent land.

    -Taxpayer-financed car leases for House members are a small and often-overlooked part of the system. But a story in the 30 March 2006 Kansas City Star on this benefit highlighted widespread abuse….Rep. Sam Graves in Missouri’s 6th District is leasing not one but two vehicles at a total cost of $1,300 a month….Rep. Roy Blunt, another prominent “fiscal conservative” in Missouri, fritters away more than $900 a month for a Chevrolet Tahoe. Over in Kansas, taxpayers are on the hook for more than $600 a month to provide a Chevrolet Trailblazer for Rep. Jim Ryun, another lawmaker who preaches fiscal restraint. (Oh right, you didn’t mention hypocrisy)

    -In lengthy interviews over the weekend and on Monday, they said that Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has started to prepare the paperwork to present to the grand jury seeking an indictment against White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove or National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley.

    Shall I go on? There are 18 pages concerning the corruption of the GOP and this administration. There is a reason they are widely referred to as one of the most corrupt administrations in US history.

    But since the neocons on this blog like to hear only the rosy stuff try this on: Bush has kept one promise, to bring the parties together. Who would have imagined Democrats and (real) Republicans united against a common foe, neocons?

  40. Joe Williams
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    This is my prediction. DeLay will be aquitted for the Texas Redistriction illegal campaign indictment.

    Since he will resign from Congress, he will most likely become a lobbyist and take over the gap that Ambramof left. He’ll make tons of cash and be a big influential lobbyist, then about ten years from now, he will be indicted for some corruption charge and then go to prison.

  41. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Excellent post k

    BREAKING NEWS

    Homeland security deputy press secretary Brian Doyle ARRESTED on charges that he used his government computer to send pornographic photos and movies. This in addition to attempts to solicit pornographic photos from what he THOUGHT was a 14 year old girl.

    Is there any limit to the depths that GOP control of the government will plumb?

  42. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    This is really just almost too easy. You libs shouldn’t play with me. Seeing that I said it was a good thing DeLay resigned, I’ll await your posts agreeing with me that Pelosi and Reid should resign due to their real or perceived transgressions.

    Chortle.

    Yes, the consensus seems to be that if you want something done in Nevada, Dirty Harry Reid is the guy to get it done — as long as you grease the palms of a couple of his many sons, the law firms they work for, and maybe throw a few thou his daughter’s way as well. For example:

    The name alone made the eyes glaze over: “The Clark County Conservation of Public Land and Natural Resources Act of 2002.” In a welter of technical jargon, it dealt with boundary shifts, land trades and other arcane matters — all in Nevada.

    As he introduced it, Nevada’s senior U.S. senator, Democrat Harry Reid, assured colleagues that his bill was a bipartisan measure to protect the environment and help the economy in America’s fastest-growing state.

    What Reid did not explain was that the bill promised a cavalcade of benefits to real estate developers, corporations and local institutions that were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in lobbying fees to his sons’ and son-in-law’s firms, federal lobbyist reports show.

    The Howard Hughes Corp. alone paid $300,000 to the tiny Washington consulting firm of son-in-law Steven Barringer to push a provision allowing the company to acquire 998 acres of federal land ripe for development in the exploding Las Vegas metropolitan area.

    Barringer is listed in federal lobbyist reports as one of Hughes’ representatives on the measure that his father-in-law introduced.

    Other provisions were intended to benefit a real estate development headed by a senior partner in the Nevada law firm that employs all four of Reid’s sons — by moving the right-of-way for a federal power-transmission line off his property and onto what had been protected federal wilderness.

    FEC Fines Pelosi Committees as Result ot NLPC Complaint;Hypocrisy of “Reformer” Exposed

    The Federal Election Commission (FEC) has fined two leadership PACs associated with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) in response to a Complaint filed by the National Legal and Policy Center (NLPC) on October 25, 2002. The FEC also has fined three campaigns that failed to return excessive contributions from Pelosi’s PACs within 60 days, as required by law.

    Under conciliation agreements reached with the FEC, Pelosi’s two committees — PAC to the Future and Team Majority — will pay $21,000. Julie Thomas for Congress Campaign Committee (D–IA) and Van Hollen for Congress (D–MD) will each pay $2,500, and Joe Turnham for Congress (D–AL) will pay $2,000. The three campaigns also agreed to disgorge $5,000 each to the U.S. Treasury.

    Law Circumvented

    In its Complaint, NLPC alleged that Pelosi violated federal election law by operating two “leadership” political action committees (PACs) in order to circumvent contribution limits. Members of the Democrat and Republican leaderships in the House and Senate may legally have one so-called leadership PAC in addition to their own campaign committee. The purpose of leadership PACs is to make contributions to the campaigns of other Congressional candidates.

    NLPC’s Complaint cited a second circumvention of the law, that of the limits on amounts donors may give to PACs. Team Majority, the newer PAC, reported sixteen contributions of $5,000 each from donors who also gave the maximum to Pelosi’s other PAC. Five of the donors gave to both PACs on the same day.

    NLPC Chairman Ken Boehm reacted by stating, “We are delighted that the FEC has acted favorably on our Complaint. No member of Congress has ever set up a second leadership PAC to evade contribution limits. Pelosi has been caught violating the clearest and most basic law of all, the limits on contributions. Talk about hypocrisy.”

    Within twenty-four hours of NLPC’s Complaint, Pelosi announced she would shut down Team Majority and retrieve contributions already made to candidates. The PAC made thirty-six contributions to candidates in the amount of $5,000, the legal limit. Her surviving PAC, which is called PAC to the Future, distributed $1.7 million to candidates in the 2001-2002 election cycle.

  43. Posted April 4, 2006 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Blowhard,After being here for 13 hours, I’m too freaking tired to read all that.Get a bigger shovel!

  44. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Don’t have an argument so you resort to name calling. Impressive.

  45. Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    I’m too tired to argue. I’m just sick of all these long posts.I don’t come here to read doctoral dissertations, and having to arrow down to see if anyone else has anything succinct to say is downright annoying.Sorry, I get cranky when I’m tired.

  46. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    Let me simplify it for you pal: Pelosi’s a crook. Reid’s a crook. They should resign according to your, well, logic. Short enough words for you?

  47. CF
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:16 pm | Permalink

    BlowJoe,

    So, have Pelosi or Reid been indicted in any court–state or Federal?

    Is either one part of an ongoing FBI investigation?

    Didn’t think so.

    As for no liberals here wanting to ‘play’ with you, we don’t want to interrupt you while you ‘play’ with yourself.

  48. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    WOW Blowjoe that is the longest post I have ever seen from you.

    It was “Brandon”esque both in it’s length, construction, and attention to tedium. So much so that I suspect you have an alter ego.

    Perhaps I’ll wade through it later.

    The subject is De Lay and GOP corruption at large.

    The story evolving is that Deputy press secretary for Homeland Security Brian Doyle engaged in internet solicitation and pornography with what he THOUGHT was a 14 year old girl. His activities are being described so far as …….

    “SICK”, and “Too graphic to talk about”

    Yup GOP the party of Family values.

  49. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:29 pm | Permalink

    JR and CF tear themselves away from DailyKos long enough to post. Great!First, let me dispatch CF’s arguments:I was responding to this post by “K”: “Well since fair is fair and you expect the Democrats to resign if there is even the appearance of wrongdoing then how about these people (for starters)?” K went on to list some allegations against Republicans. Fine. Not difficult to find allegations of wrongdoing against Dems if “appearance of wrongdoing” is K’s standard. So CF, go F yourself.

    JR: If some idiot R is sending porn to underage girls he should go to jail. So should the liberal Democrat defender of women’s rights president of the United States for lying before a federal judge about suborning perjury from a fat girl when he unfortunately left a big fat semen stain on her dress.

    Game over.

    Next…

  50. CF
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    BlowJoe,

    Boy, class act there, BlowJoe.

    I hope you’ll be able to arrange conjugal visits with The Hammer in the Slammer. Wouldn’t want you to go without that rough trade/dude-on-dude action you love so well.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  51. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    I’d say the game is afoot Blow joe.

    I do not even know what the Daily Kos is.

    Care to make any other wild leaps in judgement Joe?

  52. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:38 pm | Permalink

    CF: yeah, didn’t think you’d be able to have a substantive comeback to my obliteration of your, frankly pathetic, argument.Peace.Out.

  53. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:41 pm | Permalink

    You either JR. But don’t fret, even Bubba and his Boss knew he couldn’t squirm out of the big fat semen stain issue.But lemme make another, not too distant leap in logic….are you and CF emailing me from a Brokeback Mountain festival? How is Barney Frank?

  54. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    You seem even more incoherent than usual Blow joe.

  55. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

    Ok “Joe”

    Now I know Crusader blogfart is about.

    Now is this really Joe blow?

    If so Joe you and the blogfart might want to hook up.

    Or is it Crusader blogfart hijacking a nic?

    This should be interesting.

  56. Joe Williams
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:48 pm | Permalink

    I agree that Reid is a crook, but Pelosi is not.

  57. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    Would you agree Pelosi is a dingbat?I hope the Dems keep her in charge for a long, long time.

  58. CF
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 11:00 pm | Permalink

    BlowJoe,

    Maybe appearance of wrongdoing is k’s standard, maybe it isn’t. It isn’t mine. I’m not a Wingnut character assassain whose ‘arguments’ depend on false equivalences. Rather, I was responding to this from you:

    “This is really just almost too easy. You libs shouldn’t play with me. Seeing that I said it was a good thing DeLay resigned, I’ll await your posts agreeing with me that Pelosi and Reid should resign due to their real or perceived transgressions.”

    Listen to you weasal, as if there’s no difference between ‘real’ and ‘perceived’ transgressions. The standard I posed was indictment or investigation. Neither Pelosi or Reid meets that standard. Delay does. On both counts.

    So, BlowJoe, your ‘arguments’ are rather less than substantive, and you’ve tried, without much success, to red herring my objection. You may want to give it a rest.

  59. Rage
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    JR, I see that Blogfart commented on the Academic Bill of Rights thread with a typically rude, irrelevant post that was vaguely about immigrants, or possibly breastfeeding. I think X’s theory regarding the positive correlation of alcohol to assholism was dead on the money.

    I trust you were joking about Blowhard. He may be a little annoying (wait! that’s his job! :), but his signature style is quite recognizable.

  60. Joe Blow
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    CF, I think you mean, “weasel.” Snicker.

    So let me see if I’ve got this straight. If there is an “investigation” then a public official should resign. Sure you wanna go down that road pal? Hillary know about your position? Naw, didn’t think so.

    You libs are all giddy today because DeLay is gone and you’re just sure that you’re going to win the elections this fall.

    Just like in 1994 when Newt’s Contract with America was a stupid idea.

    Just like in 1996 when you were going to take back the House because everyone hated Newt and those mean old Republicans shut down the government. (Shut down the GOVERNMENT!! Gasp!)

    Just like in 1998…well, even you guys knew you couldn’t win an election in 1998.

    In 2000 you were going to win because everyone could see that Bush was a complete idiot.

    Then you were going to win in 2002 because people were so outraged over the “stealing of the election” in 2000 and because of Enron.

    Then you were going to win in 2004 because everyone could see that Bush was an idiot.

    Then those early exit polls came out! Eureka! You were finally going to be proven right about something! Chortle.

    CF, can you spell “losing streak?” Sure, I knew you could.

  61. Posted April 4, 2006 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    Pelosi is neither a crook nor a dingbat. She is however, a slow-moving target that even a Republican can hit.Reid, sadly, has managed to make himself a target. While I wouldn’t call him a crook, he has certainly caught a serious case of Washingtonitis.Democrats would likely be better served with different leadership come January.

  62. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 11:55 pm | Permalink

    CF

    I missed the academic rights post by blogfart.

    Went away for a bit to see what would play out here.

    If this is Joe he is really out of his shell. He is mostly drive by.

    And he is reading this.

    You seem overly concerned Joe……given the dominance of your party that you post. Why is that?

  63. J R
    Posted April 4, 2006 at 11:58 pm | Permalink

    Oops that last was for RAGE

  64. J R
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:17 am | Permalink

    Well if that was you Joe,

    The House is OURS this year.

    Maybe the Senate too.

    And then comes impeachment.

    De Lay was your “hammer”

    Now he is your poster child for a party of corruption that does its damage and them quits the field for personal self preservation.

    America has seen the GOP at its bestworst.

    And so as goes De Lay so goes the GOP.

  65. Rage
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 1:21 am | Permalink

    “If this is Joe he is really out of his shell. He is mostly drive by.”

    No argument there.

  66. CrusaderX
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    I see the peanut gallery consisting of JR and Rage are still on the hunt blaming every post by people who don’t fit their political ideology as being another one of my “countless machinations.” You guys really need to take a vacation or something, you’re beginning to fall apart at the seams.

  67. Ed Friedemann
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 4:44 am | Permalink

    Bush lost in 2004, the Zionist’s operatives got to the Ohio voting machines to put him over the top. He knows it too.

    The Zionists are well organized and it’s going to be an all out war in 2006. They can’t afford to lose, or all their “terrorism” crap will begin to unravel.

    America has no idea that they’re under siege.

  68. Ian Santiago
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 5:35 am | Permalink

    My oh my, just more kabuki theater for the sheeple. The “two-party” system is a trap, people!

    Viva La Raza Blanco!!

  69. Joe Blow
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 5:36 am | Permalink

    Lol. God bless you Ed.Shalom.

  70. heartlander
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    Whether or not “The Hammer” spends time behind bars, methinks he will eventually enjoy a really nice golden parachute.

  71. heartlander
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Whether or not “The Hammer” spends time behind bars, methinks he will eventually enjoy a really nice golden parachute.

  72. steve
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 8:41 am | Permalink

    One down, many more to follow.

  73. Ben Huie
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Regardless of the partisan part of the politics here it is wonderful to see a big shot like DeLay get taken down. I have seen many OF BOTH PARTIES get corrupt over the years. It does seem that Texas has had more than its share.

  74. Hank Price
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:12 am | Permalink

    Dear WE Editors,

    We’ve about beat up poor ol’ DeLay enough, how about a new thread?

    Oh, maybe one that we could talk about what an incredibly racist, ignorant and vile person that congresswoman Cynthia McKinney is.

    Hank

  75. J R
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Can we have a thread about Homeland Security deputy press secretary Brian Doyle?

  76. Ian Santiago
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:27 am | Permalink

    Hank,

    Come now, you know that only we “evil Whites” can be racist, don’t you?

    Viva La Revolucion Blanco!!

  77. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:37 am | Permalink

    Didnt we already have a bash cynthia thread? Ya want another one? Ok, but also, how about another thread on the incompetence of congress, the corruption of bushco, and of course…

    THE GOOD NEWS IN IRAQ!!!!!!

  78. CrusaderX
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    LOL

    Whenever in doubt, it’s good to know that minorities like us can fall back on the race card crutch! I was at a Dodge dealership the other day checking out the new Charger, and I was being overtly obnoxious so they told me to leave. Then I said: “why? is it because I’m a beaner?” hehehe! I got the red carpet treatment for the rest of the day. Yep! Sometimes it’s good to be brown.

  79. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Conversely, one sees that it can never be good to be CrusaderX.

  80. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Hank, why do ‘conservatives’ so love hatin’ on the Black Woman? Does it make them feel better, stronger, manlier?

    It’s not as if they feel any guilt that needs to be assuaged.

  81. flike
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    I would have guessed Polish, go figure. ;)

  82. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Oh. So Hank is just parroting Tom Delay’s attack on McKinney. Silly me. It’s great to hear a white conservative nutcase from Sugar Land go on a racist rant against a black woman. True colors.

    If a disgraced, cowardly pig like Delay attacked me, I’d wear it as a badge of honor. And more to the point, the GOP really ought to rethink their continued willingness to be hitched to a lowlife, lying, corrupt, dead-eyed shell of a man like Delay.

  83. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Heheh CF, I was gonna mention that they managed to change the subject away from dirty delay. I cant wait for the “clinton did it” to begin. That is their usual diversionary tactic.

    There is a cynthia thread elsewhere. This is the delay thread.

    Maybe tara can draw a picture…

  84. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    CF, dont you remember? The delay supporters are just being good christians since it was noted at their convention that GOD wants tom delay in office.

    I cant believe tom disobeyed god by resigning. heheheh.

  85. Hank Price
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:38 am | Permalink

    McKinney is black? I thought she was just arogant and stupid!

    I take it all back! Since she is black she gets a pass!

    Hank

  86. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Hank

    I guess that means fat pastey white christian guys with bad combovers get a pass on graft and corruption?

    I dont see cynthia being indicted on anything. I DO SEE TOM DELAY INDICTED!!!!

    Changing the subject yet again? Why not post the cynthia hate on the cynthia thread?

    This is the TOM DELAY IS ON HIS WAY TO JAIL thread.

  87. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Where is tara when we need her picture drawing skills?

  88. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl,

    Yes siree, this is indeed the TOM DELAY IS UNDER INDICTMENT AND HAS CHICKENED OUT OF RUNNING FOR CONGRESS thread. The editors graced us with it, and we’ll continue to lounge here, lapping up the warm milk of schadenfreude (’malicious glee at the misfortune of another’) until we’re damn good and sated, thanks.

    It’s been great to watch Delay go on the attack against Congresswoman McKinney. He ain’t himself unless he’s hatin’ someone else. Keeps him from having to look at the abyss within himself.

    He wasn’t any good at killing bugs, so decided to become a whore for oil and whatever other big money interests needed an amoral frontperson in Congress. What is it about these failed professionals (Gingrich was the other one: didn’t get tenure so he left academia) and their need to prove themselves? Could it be, OVERCOMPENSATION? I’m all in favor of affirmative action for unachieving white guys, if it keeps them locked in their professions and out of politics, where their mischief can be limited.

    The predictions about Delay’s next move have been varied, but I think he’ll go the Chuck Colson route. He’ll go to prison, have some big pretend ‘conversion,’ and then cloak himself in the mantle of moral authority when he goes back to lying, cheating, stealing, and pimpin’. And indeed, judging by his self-righteous little charade of the last couple of days, he’s already starting.

    Given the rigidity of his personality, he’s going to crack under the strain. He already seems to be batshit crazy in a hollowed-out sort of way.

  89. Rage
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

    Hank,

    http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/04/a_victim_of_bic.html#comment-15838692

  90. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:42 pm | Permalink

    Mmm. So Delay slips and says that now a THIRD aide of his is guilty.

    http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/000288.php

    Can you say, ‘culture of corruption’? The ‘few bad apples’ defense is getting a bit stretched by this point.

  91. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    CF, I am just gonna quote Jack Cafferty from CNN last night:

    “”Wolf all the tough talk was reduced to, “I quit!” To borrow a phrase from Roberto Duran, ” No Mas.” Mr. Delay suddenly became another disgraced public servant who couldn’t take the heat.” He would strut around on capitol hill like a cocky little, bandy rooster, but today he slithered away from Congress.”

    HEHEH. Pass that bowl over here, will ya? I’m not quite sated yet. heheheh.

  92. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    (sniff… sniff…)

    Yep CF, you are right. The sweet scent of fermenting apples in a barrel gone bad.

    This would be really fun if, at the bottom of it all, (no barrel pun intended) it wasnt hurting ALL Americans. It just proves to the rest of the world that their suspicions about us are correct. We are unable to govern ourselves, much less run the world.

    I am so glad to see these smug jerks get their just reward. The guys are funny, but sadly, the trail of misery in their wake is not.

  93. Hank Price
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

    Hey Rage,

    I’m a little embarrased! I only post on one or two threads at a time, I have a real life. I completely missed the thread on McKinney!

    Unfortuntely, I’m going to be rather busy with the dog show after today until next Monday so I might not have the time required to keep you guys straight.

    Thanks for the heads-up, Rage. My apologies to the WE editors.

    Hank

  94. Ben Huie
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    And KS own Jim Ryan!

    “Recall that shady house deal Paul reported on between Rep. Jim Ryun (R-KS) and Abramoff’s multimillion-dollar sham charity, the U.S. Family Network? ABC News says Buckham facilitated it. And the Houston Chronicle this morning gives new details on how Buckham, who was both a private lobbyist and head of DeLay’s ARMPAC, converted the majority leader’s political donors into lobbying clients — or was it the other way around?”

  95. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Funny, hank is suddenly too busy to post here?

    Raptor says this on the McKinney thread in an effort to change the subject there.

    ” But…any Republican that so much as jaywalks, and it is BIG NEWS and ‘proof’ that the entire Republican party is bad.”

    JAYWALKING? Oh, subverting the constitution and pimping the congress to the highest freakin’ bidder is JAYWALKING?

    Like I said, the guys, including hank and raptor are funny. The damage delay and his cronies cause, and these guys obivously support, is not funny. At all.

    But… IOKIYAAR

  96. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    I wonder if this was a hillary thread if these guys would suddenly find the time to keep posting?

    Maybe a “clinton did it” thread would help them get their thumbs out of their mouths and peep out from under their security blankets.

    Crybaby anyone?

  97. Hank Price
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Dearest ksfarmgrrl,

    Wait a minute, Hillary is white! Why would I bash Hillary?

    I’m sorry my impending absence is causing you so much angst! You’ll still be in my thoughts!

    Hank

  98. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    I will indeed miss you hank. It is just not as much fun when you… all of you… are not here!

    You do grill excellent burgers hank. My potato salad isnt nearly as good when not accompanied by hankburgers. :)

  99. Darwin'sDisciple
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    The Delay fall from grace should be described as “Jumping the couch”.

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jump+the+couch

    Or maybe as the felons I once knew would say . . . “dragging your d*** in the dirt.”

  100. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Howling DD.

    You forgot “stepping on it” too!

  101. XXX
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Well damn, I miss a day and what happens? You all start the fun without me (sniff, sniff).

    Oh Joy! Bugman takes it in the @ss! JoeBlowjob, how do them sour grapes taste? Please regale us some more about Clinton. Are we bitter? Don’t like the taste of defeat? (get used to it)

    Delay cut and ran. If you think he did something honorable, you’re nutz! There’s only one way Delay would leave politics, and that’s dragged kicking and screaming. Somebody has something on him or we’re real close to finding something Delay doesn’t want exposed. The guy’s office was the evil empire. Let’s not try to pretend that Delay didn’t know what was going on, he was right in the middle of it.

    I’d say we can chalk up another confirmed kill for the Democrats. I hope to see many more between now and November. My only regret with Delay is, he didn’t wait a few months so we could use him for the posterboy of all that’s low and slimy about the republican party.

    JR, KFG, steve, CF, DD, Ben, Rage, flike, freestater, mrc, and heartlander, excellent posts…I’ve throughly enjoyed the read.

    Friends, it’s a great day for America!

  102. Jungle Jim
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Amen to that.

    One corrupt Republican down …

  103. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    XXX,

    Delay ain’t going anywhere. He’s such an attention whore that he can’t keep himself away from the national media spotlight. It’s going to be as sad as watching Michael Jordan trying to stage his ‘comebacks.’

    ‘Sad’? What the HELL am I thinking? It’s gonna be GREAT watching him and Ralph Reed flame out in the same year. Pull up some chairs and get the marshmallows ready. We gonnna watch this sumbitch go DOWN.

  104. XXX
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 8:44 pm | Permalink

    Yeah CF, and you know I’m loving this. But you gotta wonder what was going on in the background. The reasons Delay gave? you know he was lying (because his lips were moving). There’s more to this than they’re telling. Delay is a back alley fighter. I can’t imagine him walking away unless somebody has pictures of him doing it with a goat. Or maybe he had to have a gerbil removed, lol! He always did act like he had something lodged in his….

    Hopefully, this is the start of a trend, the beginning of the end, so to speak.

    I noticed it sure got our pet repubs stirred up, at least till they left the field.

    As I said, this is a great day for America.

  105. Posted April 5, 2006 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Joe I’m not sure if you just have a short memory, are a little slow, or just plain stupid so I’ll recap for you (and use little words). You mentioned that if there was the “appearance of wrong doing” (your words) the politician should resign. I was, in a round about manner, asking if you had the integrity (in•teg•ri•ty) to demand that Republikans should be held to the same rod. The “appearance of wrongdoing” is not my metric it’s yours.

    As for your Clinton reference (ref•er•ence), do we really need to go over this again? You have implied (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/implied),by your reply to CF, you are for “innocent until proven guilty”. Well Clinton was found innocent (in•no•cent) so why do you continuously (con•tin•u•ous•ly; http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/continuously) bring him up?

    And as far as “…you libs shouldn’t play with me…”, you’re right. It isn’t very nice for us libs to tease you mentally challenged (that is the PC term for F-ing Idiot). And since I recognize your lack of mental facilities I have included a pronunciation (pro•nun•ci•a•tion) guide for all of the big words and links to the definitions of some you my not understand. Welcome to the kinder gentler future, it is now.

  106. Posted April 5, 2006 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    Anyone think it was funny that Delay took all of his campaign contributions and put them toward his legal defense fund? Old habits die hard.

  107. J R
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 9:46 pm | Permalink

    Another good post k.

    Not sure how long you’ve been posting.

    A bit of background here.

    JOE BLOW was in unusal form last night. Usually he just blows in blows up and blows away…….sort of like a fart at a dinner party.So you are right to use little words in addressing him.

    Clearly the De Lay matter is a stick in the eye to Joe.

    He was in a snit and so his usual drive by post wasn’t gonna do. So we got a long rant.

    “you liberals don’t wanna play with me”

    Of course we do JOE! Come share your pain! It is positively delicious.

  108. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    Yeah JR, that “wanna play some more” is usually just a prelude to a solid ass kicking. That “you really shouldnt play with me” is the fall back post. He’s gotten his butt whipped so many times here, by so many different people, I can only conclude he loves the pain.

    I just love how he struts around in here like his banty rooster hero tommy “I’m on my way to jail” delay.

    This is republican culture of corruption meltdown is gonna be SO MUCH FUN… except we are all paying the price for dumbass voters like blowjoe.

  109. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 9:52 pm | Permalink

    J R, agreed.

    Goddamn, k, you’ve set a new standard for the use of punctuation on this blog. It will, of course, be lost on BlowJoe. Pearls before swine and all that. And you’re ABSOLUTELY right about Delay taking his campaign contributions for legal defense. That basically salts the earth and guarantees that he can never run for anything ever again.

    XXX,

    I, too, wonder exactly how far this thing is really going to go, and exactly what goods someone has on Delay. A shameless, depraved miscreant like that must be looking at some serious jail time, the possibility of a financial investigation that could ruin him, or the threat of imminent violence to not run again. It has also been interesting to see which of the Repukes have signed on to the diversionary attack against Cynthia McKinney. Watch for them to get a whole lot nasty and racist in the immediate future. This thing ain’t over.

    Roachface is now Dead Man Walking, and the real show is the leadership vacumn this creates. All the rest of the GOP Congressional leadership are pussies and patsies. With their Hammer gone, Boehner isn’t going to be able to get much done, and Blount will be stabbing back as much as he can to try to reclaim a leadership position. It’s going to be like the way Lott shadows Frist and throws a wrench in the works on the Senate floor and sows division in the national media. The way this immigration thing is playing out is Exhibit A. I think the House is in considerable disarray, and that it’s going to get worse (well, better, actually) if Delay has to sing to stay out of jail. God knows his staffers are already doing so.

    The meltdown of this Repuke machine has been twelve years in the making, and it ain’t going to go quietly. I wouldn’t be so concerned but for the Constitutional power vacumn this creates at a time when the Executive is breaking the law and Hoovering up all the power it can. God knows we haven’t had a responsible House in twelve years, but this is really a bad time for them to go fully AWOL. But then again, they haven’t exactly been checking Executive power. Good riddance.

  110. Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:08 pm | Permalink

    CF sorry about that, I was having too much trouble trying to get my idea across using only single syllable words.

    JR, I’ve been posting here for several months. I have been very busy lately and haven’t posted in a while. I actually posted more tonight than I have in the last month. And as far as bj, I’m very familiar with him and his oral feces. But I do feel guilty debating with him, it’s like I’m taking advantage of a child (or a rebublikan). The phrase “He brought a knife to a gun fight.” always seems to fit the situation.

  111. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

    Funny funny funny.

    Great posts y’all. k, keep em coming. CF, great analysis as usual.

  112. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:50 pm | Permalink

    ksfarmgrrl, aw shucks. I just recycle the (un)conventional wisdom. Occasionally I do have a thought that is my own.

    Still, it’s been something to see the puke from Sugar Land take himself out of the running. This is the way the world ends–not with a bang but a whimper. After all that hateful macho chest-thumping bullshit, his whiny, psychotic bowing out has been a real puzzler.

    Still, as long as he’s down, I say keep on kicking. Like, why not just resign NOW? Why wait? Put the screws to the son of a bitch. He’s ruined LOTS of people’s lives, and I, for one, am not above seeing the guilty punished and publicly humiliated. Isn’t the Culture of Shame a Republican institution? Shame the bastard. He’s still defiant and dishonest. I want to see him crying like Jimmy Swaggart, a broken man, crying for forgivenness.

    But, as a student of Hegel–the REAL Hegel–it seems appropriate to consider the fall of Tom Delay, who, for better or worse (I argue the latter) is no accident of America, but is an absolutely central figure of our time. This is what Hegel, in his “Philosophy of History,” would call a World Historical Individual. Some Hegel follows:

    “If we go on to cast a look at the fate of these World-Historical persons, whose vocation it was to be the agents of the World-Spirit, — we shall find it to have been no happy one. They attained no calm enjoyment; their whole life was labour and trouble; their whole nature was nought else but their master-passion. When their object is attained they fall off like empty hulls from the kernel. They die early, like Alexander; they are murdered, like Caesar; transported to St. Helena., like Napoleon.” (Section 33)

    That’s what we’ve seen over the last few days. The fall of Tom Delay signals that beginning of the end for the current, despotic, criminal influence-peddling enterprise that is the modern GOP. It will continue, but not in the same form. A number of acts remain to follow; and soon, Fortinbras will march into Denmark.

    Not that Tom Delay is Hamlet. More like Macbeth. Or Richard III. But I suspect I’m not the only one for whom the whole thing feels very Shakepearean.

  113. CF
    Posted April 5, 2006 at 10:51 pm | Permalink

    Damn. ‘Shakespearean.’

  114. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 6, 2006 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    I think they were “filled with sound and fury” CF.

  115. CF
    Posted April 6, 2006 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    ‘Signifying nothing.’

  116. Joe Blow
    Posted April 6, 2006 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Yawn.

  117. George
    Posted April 6, 2006 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    Open wide BlowJob!

  118. Posted April 6, 2006 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Not enough one syllable words for you jb?

  119. XXX
    Posted April 6, 2006 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    Ah, another hit and run by JeoBlowme. What a massive intellect! What a monumental jerk-off.

  120. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted April 7, 2006 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    Yeah XXX, and I hope you learned your lesson not to challenge joe “you dont want to play with me” blow. I’m sure he is thinking “had enough yet?” with the sound thrashing he gave us here!

  121. Posted April 8, 2006 at 3:18 am | Permalink

    I don’t know about you all but I’ve been put in my place. Learned my lesson that is for sure. I’m not ever going to mess with Joe Blowhard again.

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