Pat Robertson always acts surprised when his remarks on “The 700 Club” cause an uproar in the country and the world. It’s happened enough now that you’d think he’d think before he speaks. But he didn’t — once again — in explaining Islam to his viewers Monday, after a report on Muhammad cartoon protests. “These people are crazed fanatics, and I want to say it now: I believe it’s motivated by demonic power. It is satanic and it’s time we recognize what we’re dealing with.”
Then there was this: “The goal of Islam, ladies and gentlemen, whether you like it or not, is world domination.”
Maybe the whole world isn’t watching “The 700 Club,” but enough of it hears of Robertson’s crazy remarks after the fact that he needs to exercise more care in choosing his words. This isn’t helpful.
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I like him, makes me look like Santa Clause. At least he’s not trying to “out me”. Rage, tell me what the other thing is.
Forgive me for being confused, but what did he say that sounds so crazy. World domination has been the stated goal of many Islamic leaders both today and throughout the past. Islamists are involved in 98% of all shooting conflicts world wide(as the aggressor). Since those crazy Irishmen stopped their bombings all acts of terrorism worldwide have been instigated by Islamists.
Tell me again what’s so crazy about what he said?
…and Hugo Chavez DOES need a bullet in the head.
Tell me again how the Muslim community should be able to control their extremists when the Christian community can’t get Robertson to think before he opens his mouth.
98% Heckler? Tell that to the victims of Milosovitch throughout the 90s. Or to the people of Iraq upon whom we drop bombs. Then you can see the insurgensies in Nepal, Sri Lanka, Latin America.
Heckler, didn’t he say something about satanic and demonic possession?
Assume you’re correct, that Islam is a religion organized in part on the accumulation of political power, with a goal of world domination.
Does ascribing the anarchic actions of Islamists to demonic possession, to satan, is that at all helpful in trying to thwart Islam in its ‘goals’?
No, it’s not. So even if you and Pat are correct in your assumptions, saying nutty things like demonic possession does a great deal of harm by inducing a great deal of ridicule aimed at what you and Pat insist are serious arguments.
Terrorism caused by demonic possession, who can take that seriously? Wouldn’t our national defense be predicated on exorcism rather than the military?
If you take Islamofascism seriously, then it seems to me you should be furious with Pat Robertson. Because demonic possession is just goofy.
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I didnt see anything in Pat Robertsons statement that mentioned “demonic possession”.
And we don’t have to “assume” that I’m correct about Islams goal. It has been clearly stated by thousands of Islamists thoughout recorded history.
Mark my words- within ten years Sharia law will become the law of the land in several European countries like Denmark who have suddenly found themselves to be Muslim majority nations.
FUN WITH LOGIC!
Pat Robertson says that radical Islamists are “motivated by demonic power”
Pat Robertson also said that the attacks on 911 were God’s retribution against the United States! (for this or that sin homosexuality or abortion I think)
So….if the attacks on 911 were God’s divine retribution. And since it was radical islamists who carried them out. We can conclude that….radical islamists are “demonically inspired” instruments of God???
So Heckler, you’re happy having Pat saying that Islamofascists act out of demonic power rather than rational thought?
You think Pat does your side a net service or a net disservice when he ascribes the actions of Islamofascists to ‘demonic powers’?
See, this is one reason President Bush can’t fully engage the resources of the left, including the Europeans, in his GWOT. When the President and his supporters, including you, say things like “Pat Robertson didn’t say anything wrong,” then the Left chooses to sit this one out and the Realists say what a load.
“The goal of Islam, ladies and gentlemen, whether you like it or not, is world domination.”
Yikes, if that isnt the christian kettle calling the islamic pot black!!
Dateline Washington DC
God denied having any links to conservative Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson yesterday after He received reports that Mr. Robertson had called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Sources close to the Higher Being say that He is “tired” of Mr. Robertson and wants him to stop using His name.Recent Polls• Most Americans Want to See Constitution Replaced by Ten Commandments• Justice Sunday Marred by Appearance of Devil• Americans Warming to Theocracy
Stop calling pleaseThis is not the first time that God has apparently been displeased by remarks that Mr. Robertson has made in his telecasts. He is said to have been very unhappy about a request Mr. Robertson made to Him last year, asking that He remove three Supreme Court Justices so that they could be replaced by conservatives. Mr. Robertson suggested that God put in the minds of the three oldest judges that it might be time to retire.
“Frankly He’s a little bit tired of this guy and thinks his shtick is getting really old,” says a source who works closely with the Higher Being. The source notes that God has even contacted a lawyer about sending Mr. Robertson a “cease and desist” letter, demanding that the conservative broadcaster stop using His name on the 700 Club, in speeches and in other correspondence.
This is not the first time that Mr. Robertson and the Higher Being for whom he supposedly works have fallen out. God was reportedly irritated by Mr. Robertson’s claim in 1988 that he had Divine backing in his quest for the Presidential nomination. Aids to God at the time insisted that He had yet to make a decision in that race and was decidedly queasy about backing a televangelist. “That was really the beginning of the end,” says an advisor to God at the time. “He had no choice but to intervene and make sure that this guy didn’t make it past the primary.”
More denunciations to come?Some political observers are questioning, however, why God would make a public statement in response to one particular outrageous statement when it has become so commonplace in recent days for religious activists including Dr. James Dobson, Tony Perkins and Pastor Roy DeLong, to invoke His name in attacks on everything from activist judges to same-sex marriage.
No more anal sex pleaseBut sources close to God say that this is likely only the first public appearances that He will make as He seeks to distance himself from US religious leaders. Aids to the Higher Being say that He was not a fan of either Justice Sunday I or II, calling them bad TV, and that He is tired of receiving prayers about sodomy. “He has a message for his American fans in particular,” say sources close to Him. “If you’re going to pray, lay off the dirty sex talk. He’s sick of hearing about it.”AND STOP GOING DOOR TO DOOR…I DO NOT ENDORSE THE “AWAKE”
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“See, this is one reason President Bush can’t fully engage the resources of the left, including the Europeans, in his GWOT.”
The left and the Europeans who don’t engage in the GWOT are appeasers and multiculturalists who won’t support the WOT regardless of what Bush does. Many of them wish to see the U.S. brought down to their level because our strength only emphasizes their weakness. They ricidule “cowboys” because we make them look like a bunch of limp wristed tea sippers. They are invested in the failure of the war on terror out of pure hatred for us even though it puts them at greater risk, just like a lot of Leftist in this country.
What you’re describing, Heckler, is a failure of leadership by President Bush.
And I don’t think that you can afford to write off the Europeans, as well as the Left of the Western Hemisphere, as no-tendon pantywaists who’re perfectly happy cutting off their nose to spite their face – if you are correct that Islamofascism is a serious threat to Western civlization.
If Islamofascism is a credible threat to western civilization, then you’ll need all the pantywaists you can find, plus some. Patting the likes of Pat Robertson on the back while disparaging the left for not becoming engaged in the GWOT is ultimately self-defeating.
How are Robertsons comments not helpful to America, but Gores when he was in Saudia Arabia were OK. Seems to me to be blatant hypocrisy.
It’s funny how the only time I hear what Pat Robertson says is when the regular media reports what he said.
“And I don’t think that you can afford to write off the Europeans, as well as the Left of the Western Hemisphere”
They will write off the left…until the Europeans have to come in with money and brooms and clean up the U.S. mess. They certainly will have a right to say “I told you so”.
Unless, of course, the “cowboys” stop screwing things up and actually make progress. If the past policy is any indicator, that wont be happening any time soon.
The U.S. will break it and then ask the europeans to fix it. Makes me proud, how about you?
“It’s funny how the only time I hear what Pat Robertson says is when the regular media reports what he said.”
Uh…Todd, I think the “irregular” media reports it too. But then, how would you know? I dont suppose you read anything written by “a good little knee jerk ideologue” whose ideology doesnt agree with yours.
Which media did you want to have report Robertson’s wisdom?
scott, can you show me where gore has advocated murder?
If gore was wrong, does that make roberson right? In what world do two wrongs make a right?
Wanna bet the next poster says “clinton did it”?
never said robertson was right, but I made the comment about Gore in another post and you for one rushed to defend how it didn’t hurt the country.
we have idiots on both sides who need to shut up.
By the way which one hurts us more. a former VP lambasting his country in a muslim country, or a religious leader saying some stupid things. probably both, but i’ll bet the hypocriscy won’t let the gore backers admit it
Heckler… where do you find the facts allowing you to say “European countries like Denmark who have suddenly found themselves to be Muslim majority nations?”
The CIA World Factbook says Denmark is 95% Evangelical Lutheran, 3% other Protestant and Roman Catholic, and 2% Muslim.
sconad – he found that in the same place he found his 98% figure.
Saying stupid things is not like asking for the murder of the head of another country.
Since you are such an expert on gore and his remarks, how about answering my question?
“scott, can you show me where gore has advocated murder?”
Does questioning u.s. policy now rise to the same level as advocating murder?
Only in kansas…
I believe Heckler is making a prediction.
I read his post to say that he predicts both a Danish demographic trend (majority Muslim by 2016) and a concomitant clash of civilizations (Sharia law in effect throughout Denmark).
In other words, in 2016 Denmark will “suddenly” be subject to Sharia in the same way that a frog sitting in a pan of room-temp water placed over a flame “suddenly” finds itself being cooked.
I guess I don’t understand the United States’ role as world policeman. Other major powers have agreed with us on several of these troubling issues, but I doubt that we would want or let China, for example, take out the North Korean nuclear facilities or the Iranian one(s).
Further, is it just me, or does it seem that the US settles many of its disputes with force? Noriega, Grenada, Haiti, now Iraq, potentially Iran, potentially N. Korea, maybe Syria.
I guess I think the picture of the “tough” Americans versus the tea drinking European and Asian fops is really more like the autistic kid (they’re usually big for their age) who can’t communicate well and ends up throwing a tantrum that hurts those around him.
gore never advocated murder true btu if you believe that his bashing of our countries foreign policy in saudia arabia doesn’t create more problems for the us then i guess
only in kansas
the point i was trying to make was that we are chastising on enad then accepting and qualifying another. its hypocritical. maybe its because its a christian thing again.
Talk about a man possessed! And Brownback wanted to go to his birthday party?
Draft Pat Robertson for President, 2008.
Start a petition now!
Heckler
“They ricidule “cowboys” because we make them look like a bunch of limp wristed tea sippers.”
Do you know what the difference is between a cowboy and a homosexual man? A homosexual man has too much self respect and brain power to be seen in public wearing a silly party hat, smelling like crap, and eating fried bull balls to think he is the epitome of what it means to be a man. The macho thing is just a show to make up for a small phallus.
Yomama:”The macho thing is just a show to make up for a small phallus.”Todd, sound familiar? – oh, I bet it does.
Darwin, we are sorry, the party you are attempting to post (Todd) cannot be reached.
Todd took this field and a few others earlier today. It must be said in his defense that he did so alone and in absence of Outlander or Nathan.
Todd suffered a bad mauling at the hands of Ksfarmgirl. He has since been absent and is presumably licking his wounds.
Heckler–
Have you ever been on the back of an actual horse?
Because my family raised and boarded horses.
It always amuses me to see all the cowboy “wanna-be” with their pointy-toed boots, their hats with the bands and feathers, and the big ol’ belt buckle.
I’ve found that the cure for all that costuming was to actually raise cattle and work them with horses.
GW Bush = all hat and no cattle.
Yomama,I hate to mention this, but I know a couple of gay cowboys who like the big hats and don’t mind smelling of horse crap, and would gladly beat the crap out of anyone who would characterize them as “linp-wristed tea drinkers!”
Back to the original thread, Pat Robertson has said time and again that he believes all religions other than christianity are demonically inspired to mislead the faithful. This certainly displays Pat’s attitude toward anyone who disagrees with him. And when the other christian churches remain silent when he makes such pronouncements, the world can’t help but see this as acquiescence to his position on the necessity of christian dominance.When christians attack other viewpoints as demonic, they have no grounds to cry foul when others attack them. That’s the tactic of schoolyard bullies.
Not to mention that as soon as anybody starts talking about demons and demonic power I lose all interest in and respect for whatever point they’re trying to make.
Demons, sheesh.
Militant Islam wants to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!
OMG!
Hey . . . that’s what Pat Roberts wants to do.
I think Freud called that “projection.”
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Isn’t it funny that for some fifty years, COMMUNISM — GODLESS COMMUNISM was going to take over the world, but thank goodness we had our big mean military-industrial complex to keep that wolf from our door.
Then, just when you thought it might be safe to reduce military spending and use the money for something productive–LOOK OUT FOR THE ISLAMIC MILITANTS BENT ON WORLD DOMINATION.
Ratchet up the money-machine, Jacko. Cha-CHING!
Great post proudlib. We missed you last night, but the cow was delicious! Now if pat would have just sent us some sacrificial lamb…
Heh, thanks, KSGrl.
Did Nathan bring his gun for everybody to fondle?
No PL, in the interest of safety, we all fondled our own guns :)
Religion is the opiate of the people. All religion does is give people an excuse for waging wars. Every religion seeks to dominate each other, that’s why all religions are nothing more than sublimated violence.
Robertson is a spokesman for the christians to keep the rich’s vice grip on your country! He should be crucified like his precious savior!
Hegel,Religion hasn’t been the opiate of the masses since they started broadcasting football games. All this televangelism is religion trying to regain it’s place as opiate.
Hey Jed!
Hope you are recovering ok. Missed you at the meetup.