“Frankly, senior officials simply weren’t ready to pay attention to analysis that didn’t conform to their own optimistic scenarios.”
– Robert Hutchings (in photo), chairman from 2003 to 2005 of the National Intelligence Council, on the Bush administration’s unwillingness to listen to intelligence warnings about the growing strength of the Iraqi insurgency.
Sen. Pat Roberts: Take note of this for your “phase two” investigation of how intelligence was misused or ignored. . . .
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Forget it Randy – Pat Roberts will continue to do everything he can to cover up administration bungling.
By the way, did you see the video that shows that Bush WAS informed about the likelihood of levee breaches etc in New Orleans? Then he went out and claimed that no one anticipated anything happening. What was he during that meeting? Stoned?
Bush has a definite pattern for ignoring any information that doesn’t conform to his beliefs. Don’t confuse me with facts, my minds already made up seems to be his mantra.
Pat Roberts can’t see anything, his lips are glued to Dubbya’s butt.
Sounds like an opinion to me Randy. Roberts has to deal with the facts.
Not satisfied with just selling the ports to Dubai, Bush has been working on selling them a critical defense industry co.http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060302/pl_nm/security_cfius_probes_dcWill this be the scandal of next week?
So, outlander, you think the security analysis in 2003 stating that the insurgency was deep rooted in the population of Iraq and not a “few Saddam dead enders” or foreign fighters was just another opinion?
34 percent of Americans approve of Bush.
That means 66 percent have come to the conclusion that if he looks like a liar and sounds like a liar, he is a liar.
May God protect us from the other third . . .
I suppose when you throw enough baseless accusations at someone week after week after week it might tend to bring down the approval rating.
Ben,
I suppose your scientific research methods were ignored on that video story?
Let me help you out with some questions you might ask your self:
When was that video released to the media?
Why was there a vedio at all?
Is there a difference between a levee being topped and breached?
Is there a difference between will happen and likely to happen and may happen?
Did you see the parts of the video which show Bush telling them to be ready?
Just curious if you apply your same scientific standards of proof to your politics too.
Nathan – I don’t know when the video was released. Also, it was never represented as being a scientific study. As for the levees, yes there is a difference. However, it is also readily predictable that over-topping can easily lead to breach as it did.
As for why was there a video maybe some of the participants decided to cover their posteriors.
And yes, there is a difference between ‘might’ and ‘will,. However, the prudent man will prepare for high-probability ‘might’
Just wondering if you knew how deceiptful you were being with your comments.
You did.
Not deceitful at all na-na. You are projecting.
Show me one shred of evidence that the information presented at the confereence reached from Bush’s auditory canal to the receptors in his brain; Did he ask any questions; Did he make any acknowledgements at all; might not he have been in a drunken stupor, so technically never received any warning the levies wouldn’t hold. Just a few questions you might want to ask yourself!
Good points steve!
Oh, ok Ben. You were not being deceiptful.
I must have been wrong when you said:
“By the way, did you see the video that shows that Bush WAS informed about the likelihood of levee breaches etc in New Orleans?”
When the video did not say Bush was “informed about the likelihood of levee breaches”
I must have been wrong with your deceiptful linking of two seperate events in your attempt to portray the President as a liar here:
“Then he went out and claimed that no one anticipated anything happening.”
And then I was probably wrong in thinking that you were just doing this to further your political agenda by attacking the President here:
“What was he during that meeting? Stoned?”
Yeah, I was way off base in thinking you were being deceiptful.
Especially when you missed the part of the video where Bush told the FEMA people he was with to be prepared and do there job.
Yeah, you were being real truthful Ben.
Forget it, Nathan–it’s over.
Bush’s charade went six years fooling most of the people most of the time, and then like the house built on the sand, it fell . . . and great was the fall of it.
What you conservatives need to do now is regroup and figure out how you’re going to recover after backing President Worse-than-Nixon.
And since it’s “scientific evidence” you require of the opposition (although Bush’s most egregious lies are accepted as fact the instant he says them), you might consider that last year, political observers counted no more than 3 vacant Republican seats up for grabs.
Suddenly, that 3 has turned into more than 25.
Hmmm . . . why so many Republicans throwing in the towel even before the contest is engaged?
The answer’s obvious–Bush is a box of rocks tied to the legs of any Republican running.
Ben:”Not deceitful at all na-na. You are projecting.”
LOL, Ben the psychotherapist. Sorry to tell you Ben, there is no hope for this particular patient.
When we drag-in others to help us murder Iraqis, we call that a “coalition.” But when Iraqis seek help fighting-off us slaughtering invaders, we conveniently call that slipping-in cross border “terrorists.”
The United States may overtake the standard for hypocrisy away from Israel if we keep trying, though the Israelis have set the benchmark very high.
Lets see…
I clearly show how Ben was wrong and the typical monkey group comes in throwing their poop.
Hehe, not even a nice try, Nathan.
Quantitative evidence (Republicans in Congress “retire” in record numbers) is not monkey poop, no matter how much you wish it were.
The guy from the Storm Center (Mayfield?) warned of the likelihood of over-topping and breach. This warning came BEFORE Katrina hit. Then, after the hit, Bush claimed that nobody anticipated it.
By the way, there were also studies posted from years earlier about the impact of a direct hit – and they included levee failure.
Yep – I am being truthful nathan. Like Harry Truman once said “I don’t give ‘em Hell. I just give ‘em the truth and they THINK its Hell!”
Sure, what you just said is probably truthful minus the attempt at linking what Bush said to it.
What you said before was not.
Spellings, Nathan! You start to to sound like some illegal immigrant who can’t write English! ;)
And my typos, too. Dang, I’ve got to stop drinking too much coffee at work…
“So, outlander, you think the security analysis in 2003 stating that the insurgency was deep rooted in the population of Iraq and not a “few Saddam dead enders” or foreign fighters was just another opinion?”
Steve: This was a while ago, but the lead in contained no such information. I haven’t read it, so I don’t know if you’re making it up and even if not, whether it is credible or on point. If you are capable of arguing the point, argue the point. Otherwise, quit putting words in my mouth!
Sorry, thought you were up to spead, read thihttp://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002835774_iraqreport01.html?syndication=rsss and you will be:
Nathan, must you ride on your da-da’s shirttails? Monkeyshit? You’re not even original. And by the way, your posts are getting pretty lame. You’ll suck up to Bush no matter what. You’re part of a small and shrinking minority: people dumb enough to be fooled by Bush.
Anonymous, you might say “willing to be fooled MULTIPLE TIMES”. It is not like there was one instance of foolery by the bushies. It has happened often.
Remember how a lie becomes the truth? By teling it over and over again.
I stand corrected, dear lady.
“Intelligence” didn’t put us in Iraq, the Zionists did and that “decision” was a foredrawn conclusion.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ArticleNews.jhtml?itemNo=551521&contrassID=13&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0
The Israeli Newspapers all agree that things are progressing as they should.
Good to see you anonymous. We need you here more often, even if you and I dont always agree!
You know how it is, kfg. Too much blogging rots the brain.
Do you guys realize that our government has a means of striking fear into you? It’s called “Carnivore” and you can rest assured your sedulous words will be intercepted and our government will find out who you are!!!! It’s too bad we don’t have a real Republican for a president, but it sure beats having a Demoncrat instead. Soon we will clean out your “rat’s nest” of degenerate traitors.