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- By Phillip Brownlee
- Posted March 10, 2006 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quote of the Day:
“We can have peace and security only so long as we band together to preserve that most pricelesss possesion our inheritance of European Blood”Charles A. Lindbergh 1939 Readers Digest
V.L.R.B!!
Then take it back to Europe and keep it there!
Lol Touche Ben.
BH,
It seems that WE were her first, actually! If you all ask me nicely then perhaps I will let you st because this is MY continent! lol
By Bjorn Carey
Updated: 8:46 p.m. ET Feb. 19, 2006ST. LOUIS – “The first humans to spread across North America may have been seal hunters from France and Spain.
This runs counter to the long-held belief that the first human entry into the Americas was a crossing of a land-ice bridge that spanned the Bering Strait about 13,500 years ago.
The new thinking was outlined here Sunday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science…”http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11451616/
V.L.R.B!!
Actually, Ian, skulls and rock paintings in Brazil suggest that Australian aborigines were here long before either Asians or Europeans.
I have been waiting for one of these open blogs. I’d like to make use of it for a little experiment.
I’m curious as to just how many folks visit here. It would be interesting to know just how large this forum is.Also, I’m sure there are folks who come here just to read and rarely if ever post. It would be interesting to know how many of those folks we have.So if you read this post and feel like participating, just type something to this thread. It can be anything your name, your political leaning, favorite founding father, whether your a dog or cat person just something to get your screen name on the thread.
I’ll keep count and share my results.
Let the corn be all of one sheaf,And the grapes be all of one vine.Lest our children’s teeth are set on edge,By bitter bread and wine.
Rudyard Kipling
KNOW YOUR BLOGGER: favorite founding father: Benjamin Franklin
JR,Jed here. Only name I post here. All else, see my posts.
Thomas Jefferson is my favorite founding father.PS: He did not diddle Sally Hemmings!
“A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.”
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
V.L.R.B!!
JR..
I like your idea. I have never posted anything. Been reading the weblog for at least four months. (daily) I enjoy local and state topics more that the national ones.Seems you get a better debate of issues when bush isn’t involved.
Hey I like the response so far! Welcome clark.
Favorite President: James Maison 1809-1817 – He and I have the same birthday 03-16. He was the original transparency in government leader. There is an American Library Association award for those promoting sunshine in government named in his honor and awarded each year on his birthday. This year’s winner is Steven Aftergood.
A lot of people thought Madison (also known as the father of the constitution – though he himself objected to that title) was dour, but everybody liked his buxom and extroverted wife, Dolly Madison.
vive de largo la raza multicolora!
Ian – DNA indicates Asian lineage and also back well over 20,000 years.
Ben Huie, nice. Let’s hear it for facts and stuff.
And of course, Ian will respond with some cooked up hate-based ’science’. Let’s hear it for makin’ stuff up.
Don’t forget the first annual picnic at Lake Afton on the 16th of March!
My dad is out of town, so I thought I would invite you all again.
There are like 8 confirmed attending so far.
You are all invited, just post here saying you will go and we will add you to the list.
I am sure my dad will update it later for you all.
Take care.
Let’s all make whoopie in here!
Pfffffsssstttttt!!
Ahhh! That was a wet one!
Y’know Ian. If you weren’t such a bigot, you’d actually be kinda cool.
Nathan – where at the Lake? I remember you mentioning something about the target range – isn’t that southeast? Or are we looking on the banks of the water?
CX:”Y’know Ian. If you weren’t such a bigot, you’d actually be kinda cool.”
This is funny. When I was eating dinner with my wife this evening describing the various people on the WE Blog – I said something to the effect – that except for the small thing of Ian being a white supremacist, he seemed like a pretty nice guy. My wife thought that line was pretty funny. But, as you guys may know – it is somewhat true. My poor spouse is still giving me suspicious looks, though.
Hey -Nathan posted recently about the picnic. It sounds like there is still time to reserve your space from his message. Correct me, Nathan, if that is wrong.
Where are the old time posters? It does not look like we’ve heard from Jed, Rage, Jimmy Bisoni (sp?), Joe Blow, fike, sum1, Brian . . . help me out fellow bloggers, let’s appeal to those we haven’t heard from. Who else should be on my list here?
I mean, after all, Walker is coming from Missouri, KFG is coming from the territory west of Hays. You Wichita folk can surely drive out to Lake Afton, can’t you?
What did ya say about me DD? Just curious.
Rage, and fike are about and actively posting. Jed is upthread. Bisoni? not for along time
KsFarmgirrrl has missed “Mother” I got a rather angry post from Mother the other day. Maybe Mother will see this.
Looking back at the archives is interesting. Might find some oldies back there.
Hank has said that all are welcome. Today I got a response upthread from someone who just reads us. There must be many more and I am sure they are welcome as well.
JR,I was telling her about the more “remarkable” people on the blog and not being on that list was a good thing, I would think.
You weren’t on the list. I will have to tell her about the others, so she won’t be worried about me next Thursday night.
Looks like Libby will walk, and no one in the Admin. will be held to account for the Plame leak. The Bush appointed judge ruled in favor of Libby’s request for summaries of top secret briefings. The Admin. will refuse, the case will be dismissed, and Justice will not be served.
I’ll be there.Favorite founding father: Thomas Paine.Quote: “Society in every state is a blessing, but government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one; for when we suffer or are exposed to the same miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without government, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer.”
Thomas Paine, Common Sense, 1776
I am not sure of the location…
He mentioned renting the shelter. I suppose that would be the building that is south of the general store there.
I don’t know of any shelters on the North side by the range or anywhere else…
The range at lake afton is North of Mcarthur by the observatory. I was talking about the range at Cheney reservoir before which is on the North West corner.
Any chance of catching a ride from the East High area? My car is running a bit suspiciously :(
The question has been raised to me about how many use a number of nics to post? Some posters are easy to see that they are one in the same. Other maybe just so close to the same opinion that it is either the same person or could be just like minded.
So the question is, how many nics did you use. And if this is the only site on WE you post to or like me I also am on the discussion boards too.
I think Congress, Senate and all Government officials should use and pay Social Security, instead of the program designed just for them to be paid what they are making now for the rest of their lives, What a waste of Tax Dollars. And if they had to use and Pay Social Security maybe then they might look at it serously and prepare it for the future! THIS IS MY POST J. R.
MrC – sure.
Nathan – I think there are also some shelters on down the west side of the lake not too far from the dam. Heck, they might even be free. We have used them for a lot of Boy Scouts events over the years.
DD, I’d love to attend Hank’s hoedown. I would attend, too, but I rarely get home from work before 7pm. I may try to drop by, but if I do, well, it will be dark, most folks will be gone, and therefore I haven’t RSVP’d because it would be foolish for Hank and Nathan to include my consumption in their event planning.
At any rate, I would like to extend a very warm “thank you” to Hank and Nathan, as well as KFG for reaching out band-wagonwise (western Kansas!). I hope yall have lots of fun. If fisticuffs break out, just remember: as a target, the solar plexus is extremely effective and is generally far safer for both parties than a blow to the jawbone! ;)
:)
Almost forgot. It’s f-l-i-k-e, not “fike.”
The dog’s name was Flag, but Umberto Domenico Ferrari always called him flike in one of my very favorite movies, Vittorio De Sica’s great “Umberto D.”
FYI, FWIW, etc.
http://imdb.com/title/tt0045274/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnx0dD0xfGZiPXV8cG49MHxrdz0xfHE9dW1iZXJ0byBkfGZ0PTF8bXg9MjB8bG09NTAwfGNvPTF8aHRtbD0xfG5tPTE_;fc=1;ft=20
DD–you are one of my favorite posters, and not just ’cause you know about Hays! You said:
“except for the small thing of Ian being a white supremacist, he seemed like a pretty nice guy”
That reminds me of the saying “other than the small incident Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?”
I have freuently said that I sometimes feel guilty for liking Ian. But dammit, he is funny, and whether we like it or not, he does make some good points. Of course I dont condone racisim, but I confess, I would like to meet Ian. I wish he were attending the picnic.
I think we could make a pact that “what goes on at the picnic stays at the picnic”. No pictures, and if anonymous posters or silent readers want to attend, they should have no fear.
Flike, Sum1, Brian, Rage, jed, kansassam, outlander, MOTHER, et al I hope you attend too.
sorry, misspelled flike’s name.
I thought that Hank said it would be in the shelter on the EAST side of the lake. I will re-check his old posts.
Jr, TripleX here. I only see one new name so far, but you’re right. There are people who read and never post.
I believe Hank said the picnic is at the East shelter at Afton.
Hank & crew,Sorry, I won’t be able to make the picnic- spending the day at the hospital, getting ready for some much-needed surgery.
KFG,Your post reflects my sentiments exactly. My wife thought my comment was the funniest thing I had ever said. What she doesn’t understand is that I was being truthful, not funny. But, I don’t want her giving me weird looks, so I am going to drop the whole thing.
The “other than that Mrs. Lincoln . . .” was a good analogy. But so is the Perry Smith line “I thought Mr. Clutter was the nicest man I ever met, right up until I cut his throat” . . .Certainly darker, but also an exammple of profound ambivalence.
Well, the Ian deal just goes to show that life still contains mystery and surprises.
Wouldn’t trade it for anything.
XXX,Think you’re right about the East Shelter. I remember you saying something about it having lights -there. Also, something about you and Walker being familiar with it. But, for the life of me I can’t find the old post.
Jed, sorry about you not making it. Was looking forward to meeting you. Maybe another time. I hope you have a quick recovery.
Speedy recovery Jed.Another thing that is short and easy to post for appearance here and educational as to our forum would be age. I am 40. I think our youngest semi regular blogger is Tara at 22.
I’m disappointed you won’t be there, Jed. I always enjoy your posts even though we don’t agree on some things. I hope your recovery goes well, I’ll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
Hank said he’s reserving shelter #1 on the east side of the lake. I hope the weather cooperates. I’m looking forward to meeting everyone, I hope we have a good turn out.
Yes, there are shelters on the east side of Afton. Many, in fact. I attended a small wedding at one of them a few years ago and lived 10 miles south of Afton for 24 years. Spent a lot of Sundays skiing there.
I don’t want my name on the attendees list as a “for sure,” Nathan. Still kind of iffy. I’m trying to get my daughter to attend, too, as she’s one who reads but doesn’t post. If we show up, we won’t expect you to feed us. :)
We’ll save some for ya, RD, I’m sure there will be more than enough food. It would be nice to meet you and your daughter, I hope you can make it.
Somebody needs to bring some sort of sign or something …
Good idea, Ben. I’ll do that since I plan to go early and help Hank set up.
Sorry for the misinformation.
My dad is the one planning all this. I was just trying to keep the invitation going while he is gone.
He will be back in a day or two and I am sure he will update the exact location and all that good stuff again.
Even if you only stop by for 10 minutes and don’t eat it would be nice to say hi.
I promise my dad and I don’t bite and there is a sheriff’s sub station out there too…
I’m not exactly “actively posting” these days, JR–too much else I have to deal with these days. Every now and then I’ll throw something out there, but you can expect long absences in the foreseeable future. I usually don’t like to post without reading the previous posts carefully (for obvious reasons). DD directed me here, so I’m breaking that rule.
I didn’t even know about the picnic. I’ll probably have to take a raincheck anyway, but we’ll see. Have a good one, folks.
Thanks for chiming in Rage. I saw you recently so I posted you still active. KFG is going to the meetup and mentioned you so thus the shout out.
I’m encouraged my research here. Thank all for posting. I’m off to watch JFK now….one of my favorite movies.
“Let justice be done though the heavens fall” see ya tommorrow
Hank’s featured with his pretty, sheep herding puppy in the “Petpourri” section of the paper today. If you want a preview of Hank, he’s there for all the world to see.
“Let justice be done though the heavens fall” see ya tommorrow
Yep he sure is Damoon.
JR,
This is proof that you are a bot for sure!
I’m not a bot. I just didn’t turn the web tv off last night. Besides, that was worth saying twice.
LOL
JR,Your youngest regular blogger must be myself at 22.
I wonder who the oldest blogger is?
I will turn 39 on April 20.
cheers.
I hear many people refer to bush and his ilk as “rght-wing” and “conservative” and that is false! These noe-cons are statist, leftist, jueo-troskyites and the following article is a great expose!
Neoconservatism, a Treacherous Hoax(by James Owens – February 2004)Not only treacherous in its brazen hijacking of the traditional “conservative”identity, the “neoconservative” movement has become a national-security threat asdevastating in its potential harm to America as was the USSR nuclear arsenal of the “coldwar” decades. These charges are severe but, I think, warranted.Identity Theft, grandiose styleNow that we know what they are, from Irving Kristol’s recent “tell-all” article inThe Weekly Standard,1 we must marvel at the monstrous fraud and sheer arrogance of theneocons (neoconservatives). For several decades they have hoodwinked the Americanpeople with a fake identity, posing as bone-deep conservatives while orchestrating at thenation’s highest centers of power, very quietly and “under the radar,” an agenda totallyopposite all traditional conservative principles. A rough summary of the platforms whenstripped of rhetorical euphemisms and the essentials laid bare:
Traditional conservatives strive to conserve the original America, the corevalues of America’s founders as explicitly enunciated in the American Constitution:* minimum power granted to the central (Federal) government* maximum power reserved to the states of the Union* minimum intervention in foreign affairs (“avoid foreign entanglements”)* fiscal discipline and balanced budgets* taxation minimal – and only for nationwide infrastructure (railroads, etc.)* a homogeneous community of Euro-white people, culture and customs* primacy of each citizen’s individual freedom, rights, property and privacy.
Neoconservatives, in stark contrast and now made “Kristol clear,” advocate:* maximum power shifted to the central “Big government” and “statism”* minimum power permitted to the 50 states* maximum foreign intervention, including military, to spread democracy andgain hegemony throughout the world (“New World Order” globalism)* fiscal indifference (deficits and national debt irrelevant)* taxation maximized – to fund a welfare state and foreign intervention* a multicultural society promoting nonwhite immigration* primacy of the Federal government as absolute to insure public order, safetyand national security, individual freedoms secondary and expendable.http://home.netcom.com/~owensva/neocon-y.html
V.L.R.B!!
I would like to change the subject here dramatically. I think the NCAA Selection Committee missed a good opportunity to have a highly-rated regional game in the Tournament. That would have been to put WSU where they put Bradley – against KU. Think of the local ratings for that game – and with 16 games per day it is regional where it matters the first weekend.
Ben,The last time WSU played KU in the NCAA tourney, the Shocks won…a last second shot from almost half court did the trick.
What a night! What a game!
Are the two teams in the same bracket? I haven’t seen it. But they could meet each other again, and imagine the rivalry. Hee hee
Ben…
it would be a fun game to watch but i honesty think its better for wsu not to play ku. especially the first game of the tournament. i can remember watching antoine carr, cliff levingston and xavier mcdaniel when i was in high school. that team could play with ku. this wsu team is just well coached. doesn’t have near the talent.
Hey it’s clark our reader! Glad you decided to post clark.
Blog readers? Even if you don’t post let us know if you are reading. I’m doing something of a survey here to find out just how big our forum is.
Viv la France.
AKA as Darwin’sDickHead to some sweet posters,I will be 52 on 03-16-06.
I be 61 this year. I forget which month:-)
Talk about perceptions! I figured Darwins as older than JM! Thanks for clearing that up. We uderstand or opinions better when we know each other better.
Viva Knievel
How can there have been an anti-war protest that drew 300,000 according to police in Chicago and it not make any national news?
I’ve been really surprised this weekend as to how many people did not know Miliosevic was on trial. What saddened more than surprised me is how many people did not know who he was.
For me the trial of Milosevic gave home that tyrants could be held accountable for the decisions they make. Not just the flunkeys they ordered arouned.There might not have been a conclusion with the trial, but at least Milosevic died while imprisoned in the Hague.
JM has me beat by 2.
Ian, is April 20 Hitler’s birthday or is it April 21? I will be 50 on Shakespear’s birthday, not that it means anything…lololol.
I’ll be 55 on Flag Day. I guess that means I can take advantage of those Senior Citizen discounts then, huh? Ewwwwwww
I’ve posted it previously, so I’m going to be a pain: I’m the same age at which Nietzche went nuts.
;-)
Though not mentioned in either the NY Times or Washington Post articles, it looks like the McClatchy Company plans on keeping (not selling) — the Wichita Eagle.
http://wichita.bizjournals.com/wichita/stories/2006/03/13/daily1.html
I think Randy was happy with the news.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/editorial/14060040.htm
I’m 29, born 7 years after man walked on the moon.I’m a married mother of 2 1/2 (yes, another one on the way).Sorry I can’t make it to the picnic – my oldest is having surgery the next day. Maybe next time.
I read the blog regularly but post rarely.
Everything the Zionists have belongs to the Palestinians. Ever notice all the refugee camps for Palestinians versus the Zionist refugee camps?
Gas prices up even as crude goes lowerHigh demand and government rules mean they’ll stay up
(CNN) — Prices jumped nearly 11 cents over the past two weeks to $2.35 for a gallon of regular-grade gasoline, even though the price of crude oil dropped, a national survey said Sunday.
The hike obliterates the 9-cent drop that had begun January 20, said Trilby Lundberg, publisher of the Lundberg Survey.
“Those five weeks of declines were due largely to our being at the bottom of our gasoline-demand curve,” she said.
The price rise came even as the cost of a barrel of crude fell from $62.91 on February 24 to $59.96 last Friday — a 7-cent-per-gallon drop.
Lundberg said an expected increased demand for gasoline in the spring and new government gasoline formulation requirements conspired to drive up prices at the pump.
Prices are not likely to fall any time soon, she said.
“With our demand building and those new recipe requirements coming into effect, gas prices will most likely surge much higher,” she predicted.
“Some of those regulations are seasonal in nature; they become more severe and more expensive as the weather gets warmer.”
Prices in Newark, New Jersey, were the lowest, at $2.15 for a gallon of regular; they were highest in Honolulu, Hawaii, at $2.63 per gallon, she said.
The survey was carried out March 10. The previous survey was carried out February 24.
The following are some other cities’ prices for a gallon of self-serve regular gasoline:
•Charleston, South Carolina: $2.19
•Salt Lake City, Utah: $2.25
•Dallas, Texas: $2.28
•Atlanta, Georgia: $2.29
•Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: $2.32
•Las Vegas, Nevada: $2.38
•Cleveland, Ohio: $2.39
•Los Angeles, California: $2.55
Find this article at:http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/12/gas.prices/index.html
I heard a story on NPR today that gas is projected to cost 30 cents more (than the current cost) per gallon during the summer.
There was once a web site, I’ll see if I can find it, which was a scatter plot of Bush’s approval ratings and the cost of gasoline. It was nearly a perfect inverse correlation. As gas prices went up, Bush approval went down.
Joke told by Bush at a recent journalist roast:”I [GW Bush] pointed out to Dick Cheney that my approval rating was 38%. He asked me what my secret was.”
The reciprocal of gas prices and Bush approval ratings: nearly in lock-step.
http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/NEWBUSHINDEX_28670_image001.gif
“Talk about perceptions! I figured Darwins as older than JM!”
Hehe! XXX posted once about something taking 35 years to reach this point, noted that he was a vet, and generally showed the energy and tenacity of a young guy. So. . . .hmmm. . .35 years old, maybe? Desert Storm vet, right?
Wrong! He’s a Vietnam guy, probably old enough to be my dad (though my real dad–WWII guy– was probably old enough to be his). As the saying goes, “assume” makes an ass outta u and me!
Hey Julie! Thanks for speaking up. Our best for the surgery on your oldest.
yeah Rage XXX does come across as younger.
I am still counting and keeping track of our posters and readers. I aim to keep doing that with all the open blogs. I’m pleased that folks seem to enjoy it.
My favorite Presidents: Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt. John Kennedy.
Ben,”JM has me beat by 2.”
Young whippersnapper:-)
Favorite President. That’s a difficult question. Modern area? Reagan.
I like what Nixon did for blacks: he opened more colleges and schools than any other president. He started OSHA. But by surrounding himself with the people he did, he etched his legacy. Very bad.
Carter was over his head; too honest for Government service.
Clinton? Great statesman, but thats about it for him.
Kennedy? I would have loved for him to have lived out his presidency. That was a very turbulant time, and I think he handled it very well.
The Bush duo? Could have done better with just about anybody else.
Eisenhauer’s legasy will subtley outlast all of them as long as the INTERSTATE HIGHWAY system is with use and I don’t foresee them going away in the distant future.
Hey Thanks Rage and JR! Specially JR, “yeah Rage XXX does come across as younger”.
You rock, bro!
I’ll be 55 in June.
Like fine wine, there may be dust on the bottle, but don’t let that fool you about what’s inside, lol!
Snow on the roof, fire in the boiler.
No prob X sorry I ruined your lunch; )
In case anybody missed it on another thread…
Map of Lake Aftonhttp://www.sedgwickcounty.org/lake_afton/map.htm
I’ve been fortunate to see several great presidents in my lifetime. Eisenhauer, while not a great statesman, was the right man at the right time. Kennedy is a hard call. Credit him with the drive that put a man on the moon. I wonder about the lost potential. Kennedy had the morals of an ally cat and may have had connections with the mob.I think history will be kinder to Nixon than we are. Say what you will, but Nixon opened up China. I was in the Marine brigade that sat off the coast of China when Nixon went there. If something had gone wrong, we were fully prepared to go in and get him out (and probably start WWIII). Those were scary times; China was a scary place.That we never went to war with China is a credit to Nixon.Carter, while a good man, was a lousy president, read: National Malaise.Reagan made us feel good about ourselves. He had the good fortune to be in office when the Soviets fell apart. He was kind of a futz, but he did no great harm.Bush 1 was a place holder. Too bad his own party turned him into a whipping boy.Clinton was a great statesman and an intellectual powerhouse. Too bad about his morals. I’d vote for him again.Bush 2? As has been often said, WORST-PRESIDENT-EVER!
How many bloggers posting today are originals? I know several of you have posted under the same name since day one. I’m an original tho I confess to going through a few names before I found one I like. Day one, I started with my real name and e-mail. Said the wrong thing and got hammered!
I THINK I am an original. I went back into the archives. My real name is there also. I also got hammered and as my email is live I still do. I do not like my current nic. I may change it. Maybe I will change it and take votes to what it should be.
Word to the right? “Bedwetter” or “rottenlyingsonofabitchamericahater” will not be one of the choices. Though they have been suggested to me via email.
The archives are kind of fun. Maybe I will active post an early one sometime.
I called the Lake Afton office today and the woman there told me that it costs $30 to rent Shelter number 4. I am wanting to bring money to reimburse Hank and thought you should know about the costs. Don’t believe Hank should have an undue burden in enduring the costs, but doing so is the Republican problem, don’t ya know.
XXX,Depends on what your definition of is, is. I would think that I was one of the early posters. How are we defining the terms.
If you google WE blog, the results are kind of intersting and I appear, for reasons unknown to me, in some of the earlier hits there.
KNOW YOUR BLOGGER: My favorite Republican is Stephen Colbert of the Colbert Report on Comedy central.
Know your bolgger: Been J M Walker from day one. Tried another, but quickly found keeping track a losing proposition LOL.
I’m a relative newbie here. I lurked on-and-off for a while, but didn’t start posting until late November. “Rage” was a spur-of-the-moment choice of nick: There was a lot to be pissed about at the time, so I figured it would reflect my normal mood. :-)
I also didn’t expect I’d keep posting for very long. 4 months and counting—go figure. . .
I only post under ksfarmgrrl. I am not smart enough to keep lies straight, so I have to tell the truth. Of course, allowances must be made for age and memory lapse.
XXX, your post reminds me of the Grateful Dead. “brown eyed women and red grenadine, the bottle was dusty but the liquor was clean”…
:)
“60 Minutes” had a dozen Oil Executives each showing over 14 billion in profits each and none offered a reason why oil was hovering close to 70 dollars a barrel again.
Do Oil Companies only hire people who don’t understand market forces? Who have no idea why the wholesale price of their product will increase or decrease? Do not understand the very principle of supply and demand?
Just a few years ago oil was 30 dollars a barrel, and a few years before that 9 dollars a barrel and supply and demand was the same as now, so why the jump in price?
Have supplies dropped? No, they haven’t, so has demand dropped, no it hasn’t, so what’s up?
Are the United States and Israel threatening to bomb Iran? Yes they are, so that would lesson supply? Yes it would. And because oil traders trade on the open market, would that drive the price of crude oil up, expecting shortages? Yes it would.
Does Iran need to be bombed? No, it doesn’t. Does Iran have “the bomb?” probably Not, but they live next to Pakistan who does and could probably borrow some if they needed to. So why all the fuss?
Israel wants the United States to give it all the Middle East oil, but a gazillion Arabs don’t want that to happen.
The best plan: Israel needs to be pushed back across the green-line, defanged and the United States needs to form a Palestinian States from the complete West Bank and Gaza.
Then bring all our soldiers home and find something more productive to do { fix New Orleans, SS, etc. etc. }.
This, while Israel attends greed-management school.
I see that about you Rage. Blogs are addictive.
If past history holds, there will be a new open blog on Friday. I will continue my research, know your blogger, et all with that thread.
Keep posting I’m keeping track.
KNOW YOUR BLOGGER:My father died of Creutzfeld-Jakob…..or Human mad cow disease. There is a thread to mad cow disease posted today on the blog. Please visit it.
BLOG BREAKING NEWS!!!!
The first face to face meeting of members of the WE blog community occurred today.Representatives of various political, issue, and faith persuasions were in attendance.
A good time was had by all and at least one concensus was reached: It was cold and windy.
Plans are under way for another gathering in the future.
All of us were on our best behavior. Our thin veneers of middle class civility prevailed!
Just thought I’d let ya know I made it home, per XXX request.
The get together was fun to ponder for several hours. Thanks to all, and especially Hank for the really good burgers. More fun than humans should be allowed to have!
Aww, I’m jealous :) Perhaps someone took pictures…?
Who all made it out there, anyway?
Hey Tara I considered taking pics and I mentioned/suggested it a couple times.I think mostly everyone was directed as to bringing this thing off without bloodshed or legal action! Maybe next time pics.
I was there. Hank and Nathan and XXX and Ksfarmgrrl, and Darwins disciple and mrcontroversy, and Damoon and Ben and J M walker were there too.
Oh and Damoons husband was there also.
It was so much fun to get to know you all, I hope we can do it again sometime. Maybe since we all got along so well, more bloggers will show up next time. We really wished you could have made it Tara, maybe next time!Glad to hear you made it home OK Frmgrl, you are one cool chick!Thank you, Hank for being such a great host, you cook one mean burger!
Oh and Damoons husband was there also.
Oops forgot to click off before I logged off. Sorry the double. It was a good time.
Sorry you missed it, Tara. I thought the picnic was great (except for the wind). I met some really great people, had some great food, and just had a good time generally. Everybody there was on their good behavior, Hank and Nathan were great to meet, and JR is in a whole class of his own. He missed his calling. He should be a stand-up comic. He cracked me up. Damoon was an unexpected surprise, great lady to meet, Good things about Steve, Ben, mrcontroversy. KFG Rocks! But I think we all had that figured out.Folks, I had a great time, met some new friends, and I look forward to seeing you all again.
And Nathan, when I get some time, I intend to take you up on the range trip.
Thanks to all for a great evening.
The trip from Missouri was definetily worth it. Meeting all of you was a trip in itself. Damoon, Hank, Nathan, Kansasfrmgrrl, Darwins Desciple, JR, Ben, Mr Contraversy, XXX, and myself had an excellent, if cold, time. KFG, Best. potato. salad. ever. Damoon, awesome beans . . . drove the dog out around 7 this morning:-), Hank, great burgers. Darwin, the cake was too good, bro. JR, you should do stand up, if you’re reinventing yourself, amigo.
I am looking forward to the next one. Lets hope the Eagle keeps its word and functions this in old town, and a bunch more can come.
It really is surprising how close folks are in reality to how they post (despite some uh,,,,,,,,earlier doubts to the contrary)
I wish I could have enjoyed the food more. I have some health issues with eating (past ulcers and stuff), and some days I just don’t have much of an appetite. I’m sure it was very good and I hope I didn’t offend by not indulging more.
Besides I was too busy talking! Even with just 10 people there was so little time to get to talk as much as I wanted with everyone.
This was a good first run! Next time a nice warm early afternoon would be good. I look forward to seeing everyone that was there last night again as well as new folks next time.
Funny JR. Sorry about the tummy trouble, but I shoulda told ya, mama’s potato salad cures all. Thanks for the kudos walker. Too bad I was out of homegrown potatoes.
I also thought folks didnt differ much, in appearance or personality, from what I expected. I think that says something about the honest posts of those who attended.
I’d drive four hours to be with you all again! We’re no. 2!
Tara, no photos because we were waiting for you to draw a picture of the group. Like a courtroom sketch artist. Like the great cartoonist you are!
We had no end of fun teasing Nathan about your drawing a picture for him. I am happy to report he took it all with good nature.
Definitely a good time. An important agreement we should always remember is this: WE ALL WANT THE BEST FOR OUR COUNTRY. We just have different ideas about just what that is.
Good food – thanks especially to Hank for the burgers and pop. Agree with J R that talking distracted from eating!
As promised for nathan – although also posted elsewhere – The GOLDEN RULE through various eyes:
In everything, do to others as you would have them do to you; for this is the law and the prophets. Christian, Jesus, Matthew 7:12One word which sums up the basis of all good conduct….loving-kindness. Do not do to others what you do not want done to yourself. Confucius,This is the sum of duty: do not do to others what would cause pain if done to you. Hinduism Mahabharata 5:1517Not one of you truly believes until you wish for others what you wish for yourself. – Islam The Prophet Muhammad,One should treat all creatures in the world as one would like to be treated. Jainism, Mahavira, SutrakritangaWhat is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn it. Judaism ,Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31aI am a stranger to no one; and no one is a stranger to me. Indeed, I am a friend to all. Sikhism Guru Granth Sahib, pg. 1299Regard your neighbour’s gain as your own gain and your neighbour’s loss as your own loss. Taoism, Lao Tzu, T’ai Shang Kan Ying P’ien,We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part. Unitarian principleDo not do unto others whatever is injurious to yourself. Zoroastrianism, Shayast-na-Shayast 13.29We are as much alive as we keep the earth alive. Native Spirituality Chief Dan GeorgeLay not on any soul a load that you would not wish to be laid upon you, and desire not for anyone the things you would not desire for yourself. Baha’i Faith, Baha’u'llah, GleaningsTreat not others in ways that you yourself would find hurtful. Buddhism , The Buddha, Udana-Varga 5.1
Ben, I’ll add a few more to your excellent list.
Ancient Egyptian – “Do for one who may do for you, that you may cause him thus to do.” The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant, 109 – 110 Translated by R.B. Parkinson. The original dates to 1970 to 1640 BCE and may be the earliest version ever written.
Humanism – “(5) Humanists acknowledge human interdependence, the need for mutual respect and the kinship of all humanity.”"(11) Humanists affirm that individual and social problems can only be resolved by means of human reason, intelligent effort, critical thinking joined with compassion and a spirit of empathy for all living beings. “”Don’t do things you wouldn’t want to have done to you, British Humanist Society.
Native American Spirtualism (2 more)”Respect for all life is the foundation.” The Great Law of Peace.”All things are our relatives; what we do to everything, we do to ourselves. All is really One.” Black Elk
Roman Pagan Religion: “The law imprinted on the hearts of all men is to love the members of society as themselves.”
Shinto: “The heart of the person before you is a mirror. See there your own form”
Sikhism: Compassion-mercy and religion are the support of the entire world”. Japji Sahib”Don’t create enmity with anyone as God is within everyone.” Guru Arjan Devji 259″No one is my enemy, none a stranger and everyone is my friend.” Guru Arjan Dev : AG 1299Sufism: “The basis of Sufism is consideration of the hearts and feelings of others. If you haven’t the will to gladden someone’s heart, then at least beware lest you hurt someone’s heart, for on our path, no sin exists but this.” Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh, Master of the Nimatullahi Sufi Order.
Unitarian: “We affirm and promote respect for the interdependent of all existence of which we are a part.” Unitarian principles.
Wicca: “An it harm no one, do what thou wilt” (i.e. do what ever you will, as long as it harms nobody, including yourself). One’s will is to be carefully thought out in advance of action. This is called the Wiccan RedeYoruba: (Nigeria): “One going to take a pointed stick to pinch a baby bird should first try it on himself to feel how it hurts.”
RD,”Don’t do unto others as you would have them do unto you; their tastes may be different.”-Oscar Wilde-
The more I see, the less I know for sure…John Lennon.