Rep. Nile Dillmore (in photo), D-Wichita, advocates getting tougher on Kansas employers of illegal immigrants. But he made an important distinction Wednesday as his colleagues on a House committee voted to repeal the law allowing children of such immigrants to pay in-state tuition rates at state colleges: The 221 students who can newly afford college because of the 2004 law are not in Kansas of their own choosing but because they were brought here by adult relatives seeking jobs. With the repeal, Dillmore said, “We are simply going around beating the innocent and ignoring the guilty.” Legislators also need to be aware that Gov. Kathleen Sebelius has shown no interest in the repeal. She said Wednesday: “Punishing children and making education more difficult for talented children of immigrants is probably a lose-lose situation.” It is — no probably about it.
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They should also drive businesses that hire illegals OUT of business.
I have to agree with Niles. The reality is that these kids are here and that they are RESIDENTS of Kansas. As a taxpayer I would rather spend the money on the colleges/universities and maybe get a return when they learn something than punish them for the sins of the corporations that make money on their parents.
Alright, it is ON now!
AMERICAN CITIZENS from other states have to pay out of state tuition until they live six months in the state where their college is located. Now, why the hell do people think that its FAIR for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to send their kids to college while paying in-state tuition? Is this fair for the AMERICAN CITIZENS who go to college and have to pay out-of-state tuition?? Isn’t this a free and equal society in which we live in? Why are people who have no right being here given better benefits than the average citizen? This is just like what happened in California all over again.
State funds come largely from various taxes and fees paid by RESIDENTS of the state. So, the child on an illegal and his family pay sales taxes, property taxes (indirectly) and income taxes to the state. My relatives in Georgia and California pay no taxes or fees to Kansas.
Who among us is not a child or grandchild of immigrants? To overturn that law is classic bleep you Jack, I’ve got mine thinking.
As far as I know, my immigrant forefathers didn’t sneak in under the cover of darkness. As far as I’m concerned, if you can’t get into this country by legal means, you need to be deposited right back across the border immediately.
Cruex, chill.The courts have already ruled that your argument doesn’t hold water.Just because Becky Hutchins got her way with a crying fit with Doug Mays doesn’t mean this bill stands a snowball’s chance in hell.
http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/cork.htm
Jim Moore, a political analyst, said there is more at play here than altruism: “Republicans and Democrats are trying to get the Latino community to support their parties. The Latino community is up for grabs.”
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/05/22/immigrant.tuition.ap/
This is just a political move for the Dems and Repubs to get the Hispanic vote. It’s a pretty smart move since Hispanics are the largest minority group in the U.S. right now. (Hi-five, Ian) :)But we should get a FAIR deal, we shouldn’t push for incentives that favor us over everybody else!
So, the child on an illegal and his family pay sales taxes, property taxes (indirectly) and income taxes to the state.
Gee, I sure got a raw deal then. Why the hell did I pay out of state tuition for 6 months when I got into Washburn Law? I should have just moved my ass to Mexico, renounced my American citizenship and came back to Kansas illegaly. Then as an illegal alien, I could have been eligible for in-state tuition and saved a butt-load of money! Sound fair to you?
I suppose it’s easy to get your panties in a wad when you don’t know the people involved…I know several.Keep in mind, one of the key provisions of the current Kansas law is that THE STUDENTS MUST BE SEEKING LEGAL CITIZENSHIP IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.Every last one of these students (that I’ve met) is trying to plan for a future in this country, most of them right here in Kansas.It isn’t about taking advantage of anyone.Too bad you can’t say that about a lot of the people who are against this law.
Wow, I knew Kansas is backwards compared to the rest of the country but I didn’t think you all were outright racists.
“Filthy Illegals” ? ?
Yeah bubba, how about we all throw on our white sheets and chuck these “filthy illegals” back over the border.
permalinkNileBenGettinMrconYou all miss the point. Their parents are here illegally so that makes them ILLEGAL. Why can’t you get that thru your head.I guess that’s the problem theres nothing there.
Ben I will wager the largest percentage of them will go back to Mexico when they grad.
Gettin RIGHT ON !Todd RIGHT ON !
OOpsNot Gettin right on
Crux RIGHT ON!
North – I miss NO point. They are here. They are residents. Action should be taken against the corporations that exploit the situation. However, the kids should not be targeted.
And why would they be so eager to go back to mexico when they graduate? They will have infinitely more opportunity here.
CruX – you could have easily gotten in-state tuition at Washburn. Move here first, become a resident, then you get in-state. That is what I did to get in-state at WSU.
If illegals earn money in this State and Country, they should pay tax on it. Them paying taxes doesn’t justify them being here in the first place.It has been reported the liability to our state coffers far exceeds the amount they pay in taxes of which is this countries money in the first place.
North – they DO pay taxes. Or, at least the Corporations WITHHOLD the taxes. Whether the corporations forward to the government as required …
BenYou DID miss the point if you think an illegal family deserves the same rights and privileges as a legal family.
Ben I said they pay taxes and they should if they work here but their cost to us tax payers far exceeds that tax.
The cost exceeds that tax due to the exploitation being done by those who bring them here. THAT is where we should be punishing.
I think illegals are more often exploited than perpetrators of exploitation.
I was at my barber a few months ago and an 80 yr old hispanic man was in there saying that if Wichita ever wanted to get Kellogg finshed, they’d be ahead to let his people in, rather than keeping them out. I thought at the time, he might have a point.
IanA very good post.Should be MUST read to all bloggers
BenYou do have one point our yellow bellied politions should enforce, at the least our existing laws.An employer that says the illegal employ had legitimate looking papers should still be arrested. They always tell me ignorance is no excuse.
After saying that we still should not have to pay for schooling the illegal student no provide a bilingual instructer.
WE EDITORS:
How about a thread on this kid who recorded his geography teacher making anti-Bush comments in the classroom?
Nathan,
Why don’t you defend the treasonous immigration policies of that scumbag in the Whitehouse that you worship and adore? I thought as much!
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Ian,very good post. I am quite surprised!
I don’t agree with many immigration policies by not only this administration, but every other one as well.
I don’t consider them treasonous and your labeling it as such is a perfect example of why I hardly ever engage in any discussion with you at all.
I agree with Ian and North Guy and crusaderX. I don’t care if these kids came with their parents, they’re still ILLEGAL. I don’t see any logical reason they should get any kind of benefit when their residence here is ILLEGAL. This is supposed to be a country of laws. We need to ENFORCE THE LAW. Why is that such a hard concept? I think they should all be sent back to Mexico. If they want to emigrate here, that’s fine, just do it legally. I don’t think that’s too much to expect.
Nathan,
I call it treason because it is!
Audrey Hudson, Washington Times, March 1, 2006
The Bush administration sent a “hollow” budget to Capitol Hill that does not fulfill its funding commitment to add 1,500 law-enforcement officers to guard the borders against illegal aliens, key Senate appropriators said yesterday.
“This is a situation of showing a proposal and then hiding the funds, and so we end up with a budget that we’ve got a $1.6 billion hole in,” said Sen. Judd Gregg, New Hampshire Republican and chairman of the Appropriations subcommittee on homeland security.
Facing off against Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff during a budget hearing yesterday, Mr. Gregg said the funding priorities of the Bush administration treat border protection like “a stepchild of national defense.”
“I can’t think of anything more significant to national defense than protecting our border and making sure that our homeland is secure, and yet the Department of Homeland Security is being starved for funds in crucial areas,” Mr. Gregg said.
“It’s a hollow budget and I can’t understand it because I’ve watched the press conferences where the administration has said it’s committed to border security and domestic defense, and yet this budget isn’t going to get there,” Mr. Gregg said.
{snip}
Original articlehttp://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/03/bush_budget_hol.php
V.L.R.B!!
I want a quarter everytime someone refers to panties being in a bunch. I was the first to post that comment while referring to that rabid she-wolf Ks.
Here’s something ironic:
Do you know which country has the toughest immigration laws in the western hemisphere?
MEXICO
Sickening isn’t it?
This is a link to the stroy gnat mentions about the geography teacher being recorded making anti-Bush comments. I guess the school got many calls from parents some APPROVING and some disapproving of what the teacher said.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4508296,00.html
“story”
Nathan–
Someone CRITICIZED Bush, OMG! Sue the bastard, fire him, tar and feather him.
Because we know that no teacher ever criticized Clinton or anything.
Besides, the last time I checked, criticizing the President doesn’t get soldiers killed in Iraq.
Being the President and sending soldiers there however does . . .
What part of ILLEGAL is impossible to understand? Legal immigrants should be granted instate tuition in the state they have established residents. ILLEGALS are breaking the law just by living here.
Oh..but we decide which laws to abide by and which ones to ignore? Ok, I want to drive 95 on the freeway..can I tell the judge that I am picking my laws?
Yes, I am the descendent of immigrants…LEGAL immigrants. And, my Swedish ancestors chose to learn the language of this country and become citizens.
Major differences…
The only rights that filthy illegals should have is to emergency medical care, got it! Illegals have NO other rights under the constitution and the politicians and business people who hire, reward, excuse and encourage them are filthy MF traitors who need to be put on trial for treason!”…The chilling costs of illegal migration reach like an octopus into every aspect of our lives. Illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars last year according to Harvard Professor George Borjas. College and high school kids cannot find a summer job in yard care, landscape, fast food or service jobs. Why? Illegal aliens work them at a third the wage and often, under the table.
Not only do your kids not have jobs; you’re paying taxes for illegal aliens who are not paying taxes.
Annually, 75 percent of drugs arrive from Mexico at a net cost of $120 billion hard currency that leaves our country for good. In addition, our tax dollars pay $80 billion for the War on Drugs each year. It is a war that hasn’t been won in the past 30 years and drugs are as available today to your teenager as they were in 1970.
When an alien criminal gets caught for rape, murder or drug distribution, you pay $1.6 billion annually in prison costs to house, feed and clothe those filling 30 percent of our federal and state prisons—not to mention TV, movies, weight rooms and other entertainment—they enjoy while being incarcerated.
Is your blood boiling at this point? How about illegal alien anchor babies? Over 300,000 women annually arrive pregnant and drop them on U.S. soil. You pay food, housing, medical and schooling for them to age 18 PLUS their mother. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, average annual cost per child K-12 is $7,161.00 and exceeds $109 billion annually per cycle of anchor babies. That’s your money given out to 300,000 moms and their kids annually and all they did was get pregnant and birth that child on U.S. soil.
If you haven’t had a heart attack by now, you’ll need Tums after this figure. The average head of household illegal alien costs you $2,700.00 in welfare money over and above any taxes he or she pays in their meager paying jobs. With 15 to 20 million illegal aliens in the USA, that figures exceeds $20 billion of your tax dollars. (Source: Center for Immigration Studies, August 2004)
How about the $56 billion in pure cash illegal migrants sent to their home countries last year and every year? That’s after their kids enjoyed free education, free lunches and free medical care paid for by you. Mexico receives $15 billion annually from its worker drones. No wonder Vicente Fox sent us 9.2 million illegal alien Mexicans so far.
The lifetime net fiscal drain—taxes paid minus services used—for an adult immigrant is $55,200.00 according to Carrying Capacity Network. Who makes that money up? You do! Your work! Your taxes!
With a minimum of 15 million illegal aliens in our country, these figures are the tip of the iceberg. Average bilingual education is $1,200.00 per illegal alien student. Get this! We educate 1.1 million illegal alien children each year. Do the math! Ready for another anvil dropped on your toe fact? You paid $27 billion to provide forms, ballots, interpreters and brochures for languages other than English in 2003.
An estimated one-third to one-half illegal aliens work off the books. It costs $200 million to provide for emergency health care for illegal aliens in the Border States annually. California with over three million illegals paid $79 million, BUT four of their major LA hospitals bankrupted and shut their doors in 2004. Texas with 1.5 million illegal aliens paid $74 million in hospital care. Who is Texas? You, the taxpayer, that’s who! Because you, in your state, pay commensurate medical care according to your illegal alien population. Georgia ran a $63 million deficit for 64,000 unpaid doctor visits to their Grady Health Care system in 2002. In the same year, Georgia taxpayers paid $27 million for 11,188 anchor baby hospital births. Georgia taxpayers paid a whopping $242 million for educating illegal alien kids in 2003. What is it in your state?
What are the consequences? One in two adult African-Americans in New York is unemployed. African-American children’s poverty grew by 50 percent since 1999. Why? Their dads can’t find work.
It costs you, the taxpayer, $68 billion a year JUST to pay for the resettlement of legal immigrants.
Fellow Americans, we are $7.384 trillion in debt as of November 1, 2004. This year’s budget deficit exceeds $413 billion. Our trade deficit stands at $400 billion. Our consumer debt exceeds $2 trillion and our average credit card carries an $8,000.00 balance. Our U.S. government borrows $1.6 billion daily from foreign banks, just to stay afloat. Have you ever heard of the Titanic? We are taking on heavy immigration numbers while we’re being financially bled to death. Are we in trouble or what?
Who brings this fiscal nightmare into America? Take a guess. The majority of your Congress! President George W. Bush himself! Tom Ridge, who won’t guard our borders from this invasion, but gets his orders from Bush! Illegals are arriving at over 4,000 per night according to Time Magazine, September 12, 2004, “Who Left the Door Open?” I quote, “That total of illegal aliens flooding into the United States this year will total three million—enough to fill 22,000 737 Boeing airliners, or 60 flights every day for a year.” Don’t you think with that many illegals crossing nightly that anyone with a brain would send troops to our border to protect from an invasion? Since we just re-elected the same Congress and president, you can expect more of the same.
You can count on your corporations devouring cheap labor as they send you to the unemployment lines. Additionally, they pay PAC groups to keep senators and congressmen in their back pocket. How do I know? Only 22 companies in 2003 were taken to court for hiring illegal aliens. None went to jail. However, it’s a $10,000.00 fine per illegal alien hired and up to five years in prison. You would think that would deter corporations. Not when they’ve bought off enforcement!
Who else figures in this grand scheme? Your governors and mayors who provide sanctuary laws for illegal aliens! Mayor Bloomberg of New York City.
Governor Baldacci of Maine! Governor Bill Owens of Colorado! Mayor Hickenlooper of Denver! Mayor of Los Angeles! Mayor of San Francisco! Mayor of Chicago! Mayor of Miami! How do I know? All those cities and dozens more give sanctuary to illegal aliens with Special Order 40.
Illegals remain in our country with exemption from arrest—yet, they are federal criminals!
Can you blame millions of desperate people for coming illegally to America? Hardly! Do you think they will stop coming since the world adds 80 million annually of poor, hopeless people from war torn, ravaged and impoverished Third World countries?
Not a chance! This is the land of free milk and honey. As long as our leaders allow the invasion and not enough Americans speak up, you can expect 12 million more illegal aliens in the next four years. Who pays for this invasion of your country? You do!
As a final note, if you’re as sick of this nation-destroying dilemma as I am, go to my web site. I’ll send you an action letter with 17 effective points to change our nation’s suicidal course. Whatever your talent, you will become a part of this movement to save our country from this disaster being brought to us by our leaders. You may send that action email out to your friends and they can send it to their friends. As Americans we must link arms, hearts and minds to take action to preserve our country and force our leaders to stop this illegal immigration madness. It’s called a ‘consciousness shift’ and it’s going to take every one of us. That means everything you do, COUNTS!”
http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty2.htm
New Lyrics for an Old Song:
Xnenophobia (pronounced “Ze-no-fobia)- sung to the tune of Fre’re Jacques
Xe no phobia,Xe no phobia,Where are you from?Where are you from?We’ll quickly deport you,We’ll quickly deport you,Unless we need our lawn mowed.Unless we need our lawn mowed.
xenophilia – Love of the foreign or unfamiliar. A xenophile is a person attracted to that which is foreign (or ethnic), especially to foreign peoples, manners, or cultures. In Western societies during the 1990s, in reaction to the prevailing opinion that the great accomplishments have been made almost exclusively by males of European descent (DWMs), there was a xenophilic embrace of works by women, non-whites and the dispossessed.
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Here’s a thought for a compromise, let these ‘children’ get citizenship first and then get in-state tuition.
Let’s stop calling them children at any rate. After 18 you are an adult. If you were a child of an illegal alien then you get upgraded to illegal alien.
I don’t know why people can’t walk the proverbial mile. Childen of immigrants aren’t going to take their job skills anywhere. If, like many children of illegal immigrants, you lived in this country almost all of your life, you went to school and graduated here, and all of your friends are here, why would you pack up and go “home” after you finish your degree? Are people forgetting what a wonderful country this is to live in? I’m a child of (legal) immigrants. The idea of me getting my degree to go back to my parent’s country and work is laughable…so foreign. Why would it be any different for these children?The argument that “they’re illegal, so they shouldn’t get extra perks” is weak, because it’s not like they chose to cross our borders. If you deny them the chance to go to college, they’re not going to think “Hmm…maybe I should go back to Mexico.” They’ll repeat the mistakes of their parents and work for sub-living wages, being supported by our tax dollars. It’s in all of our best interests to educate them to be productive citizens.A brilliant mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Why, why, why would you want to punish children for their parents’ mistakes?
Oh, and for out of state citizens that are complaining: You only contributed to our local economy for 6 months to a year before we granted you in-state tuition. What about people who have been paying taxes to help fund our schools for years and years?
I have a question about out of state tuitions. Why not eliminate the differential charge and open up enrollment in our state colleges/universities at the same tuition rate to all who apply?
Of course, as usual, give preference to Kansas citizens for good grades and participation in high school activities, etc. But our colleges are in business now. Better to encourage their use by all who want to attend them. Seems like this would eliminate the arguments for and against out of state and out of country applicants.
I have to admit my college days at K-State and K.U. are long past.
TaraHow naive, stupid, irresponsible can you get?Your advocating giving away the farm.Can’t you understand, the illegal FAMILIES are breaking the law. Damnit, THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW.
I just saw on TV tonight that in one of the senate hearings, they said there has been 4000 illegals crossing our borders sense the first of the year. I my openion that is a invasion by a foreign country which would justify shooting them on the spot.
CrusaderX, we were using the phrase “panties in a bunch” long before you got here, lol! Check the archives.
North Guy, if we shot them on the spot, eventually, we wouldn’t have to “build” a fence.
;)
Anyone who is here illegaly is a felon because he broke federal law by coming here illegaly. I always hear people saying that putting up a fence on our border is a shameful thing for a democracy to do. They then support their argument by appealing to the emotion of people using common rhetoric like: “it’s a shame we’re becoming like Communist East Germany building our own Berlin Wall.” and “Oh those poor people just want a job.” However such rhetoric is merely sentimental and has nothing to do with strengthening their argument. Furthermore, why is it so evil to them that we as a society enforce our immigration laws? Will a nation like ours no longer exist as a democracy just because we militarize our borders and seaports and actually enforce the federal immigration laws? We are a sovereign country it is we Americans that have the right to legislate laws that can stipulate who can be here and who can’t. Someone is illegal if he is not processed by INS and gets a green card and becomes naturalized. All we are asking is for other countries to respect our sovereignty by respecting our laws. It is about time we start protecting our borders with troops, just like Mexico does with THEIR southern border by the way. So please, anyone who thinks that illegal aliens deserve to be here should all write to their congressman and tell them that they want open borders and have nothing but contempt for the laws of our nation.
Out of curiosity, has anyone bothered to read the law? The requirements for in state tuition is for a student to have attended at least THREE YEARS of high school in Kansas, graduated, and be seeking citizenship.In other words, he was 15 or under when he came into the state of Kansas. It hardly seems to me that he should be classed as a nonresident, even though the paperwork may say “illegal”. Anyone else who had attended 3 years of high school and graduated here could get in state tuition. He could not get in state tuition in any other state as he IS a resident of Kansas, by their classification. So let the kid go to college here and pay in state tuition! What is the alternative? That he go to work where his parents are working because he can’t afford out of state tuition?
Why is there even an arguement on this?
We are argueing that illegal immigrant children should have in state tuition?
We ought to be DEMANDING that illegals and their children ( “anchor babies” included) be rounded up and deported!
Rusty . . . you rock, my friend.
Thanks for introducing the facts into an otherwise banal “get the furiner outta my state” thread.
Great post Rusty.
“That he go to work where his parents are working because he can’t afford out of state tuition?”
Um…yeah Rusty. I think that is exactly what is wanted. America cant run without cheap, under the table labor. Even bush wants a guest worker program.
GWP=Legal exploitation.
First, there is the small matter of enforcing immigration laws and not rewarding law breakers. Just because someone has succeeded in breaking the law does not entitle them to subsidies.
Second, it violates a 1996 federal law providing that, if a state allows in-state tuition rates at its public colleges and universities to its resident illegal aliens, it must also permit in-state tuition for citizens and legal residents of other states.
Third, it encourages more illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants for the most part come here due to economic incentives. Adding to those incentives just makes an already out of control problem worse.
We need as a nation to get serious about halting illegal immigration. The costs are enormous. It is at least 36 billion in federal services alone. Every state pays the lion’s share of the cost, such as California where the cost is put at 10.5 billion. No one even knows the total when one adds health care, prisons, education, drug trafficking, other crime, unpaid taxes, and a myriad of other costs. Estimates range from 130 billion to 400 billion. The number is certainly staggering.
Beyond the fiscal issues, the crime, and the overburdening of service providers, a total lack of control of our own borders makes the term “homeland security” a joke.
The Kansas tuition law is a part of one of the most serious problems we have, and our legislature continuing to make it worse should not be tolerated. Kerry Healey, lieutenant governor of Massachusetts put it well concerning that state’s debate on the same issue.
“America continues to be a beacon of freedom and opportunity, welcoming people from around the world. We are all the sons and daughters of immigrants who came here to realize the American dream, but we must insist that immigrants follow the law and immigrate legally. Similarly, elected officials must be reminded, too, that we all took an oath to protect and uphold the Constitution and the law of the land. To do less would be a violation of that oath.”
http://theflyoverzone.blogspot.com/2006/02/rewarding-illegal-immigration-in.html
Jeez, God forbid illegal aliens actually FOLLOW our goddamn laws!!! We American citizens have to abide by every single federal and state law but someone who comes here illegally can wipe their asses with our laws, and are also entitled to benefits payed for by US! You open-border assholes can pay for illegals with YOUR f*ckin tax money, but that don’t mean the rest of us have to suffer for it!
Seems we got rare concensus on this issue. We, the public, on both sides of the political aisle.
So the next question is, why do we allow it?
Having posted previously, I will mention one more thing.This whole question of in-state tuition for students of illegal immigrants, and the question of driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants, are just 2 issues of the STATE trying to take care of problems that arise from the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT not doing its job.These people are here. The state can’t remove them. The federal government is charged with border patrol and immigration enforcement. It is so bad that the governors of Arizona and New Mexico issued a state of emergency for the counties in their states that bordered Mexico. And the federal government said, “Yawn…”.I see this as a blatant attack on the American worker. The prevailing attitude among business and the federal government is that if a job can be done cheaper it can be offshored. Those pesky jobs that can’t be moved can be dealt with by bringing the cheap labor to the worksite. Either way, it is disrespectable to those who work every day building this country and pads the pockets of those who sit at the top.I believe that ALL people should be treated with respect. I cannot blame people from Mexico or other countries for trying to immigrate to the US to better their lives. They should, however, do it LEGALLY. If the laws aren’t working, they need to be changed. If a law is to be valid, it must be practical, respected, and enforcable. And ENFORCED. If the immigration law isn’t practical (i.e. we are being overrun) then maybe it needs to be rewritten or modified. If it is not respected or enforced, it is not a law, it is just a suggestion. Either way, this is a situation where the solution should be applied at the source!
RustyWhy rewrite the laws when there seems to be no desire to enforce the ones we now have on the books.
The states use the excuse, they can do nothing about the illegal immigrant problam because it would be in violation fedral laws. WELL the illegials are violating the laws and getting by with it, why can’t States?
GFUN, at this point I have to say, “I don’t know.” From what I have seen, the laws that are written are not the problem. The lack of enforcement IS the problem.I am definitely not an expert on this issue. It seems to me that the states have some laws to deal with some of the problem.They can check employers and strictly enforce regulations on labor. This falls within their jurisdiction of controlling the economy within their boundaries. If a company hires illegal immigrants, make it so expensive if caught that it isn’t worth the risk. There is a reason why people immigrate. We should take away the reasons that make it worthwhile to do it illegally. Please realize when I say this that I view the college tuition thing as more of a human rights issue than an immigration issue. I don’t think a single one of these students thought, “If I can get to Kansas, make it through 3 years of high school and apply for citizenship, then I can go to college there and only have to pay $2500 per semester!” Their’s was more like a parent thinking, “If I can get to Kansas I can make a couple of hundred dollars per week instead of $20.00 per week!”The second thing that can be done by the state is a no tolerance attitude toward poor citizenship. If a person who is here illegally is arrested for a crime, we have a handy place for the immigration people find him (or her). Call them and let them know that they have a person they need to deal with, and if they don’t make it quick we will charge them for the time we have to house them. And, if they drag their feet, they will find the picture of the head of the department on the front page of the newspaper explaining that they are not doing their job.If we start breaking this down to a list of problems, then deal with each problem it is easier to come to a resolution. As the individual problems created by immigration are resolved then the whole big, unmanageable issue of “those illegals are here to take our jobs” can become “our neighbors, friends, coworkers and fellow citizens that we can share our experiences with and learn from their experiences”.The current system guarantees that we won’t see that day any time soon.
CrusaderX,It is obvious you are possessed by the spirit of Ian Santiago. Isn’t he an illegal also? I believe we should have closed our borders to people who do not fit into our majority culture. That would include Filipinos and Puerto Ricans. How would you feel about that? I like the idea.
Who are you calling an illegal you little shit stain?
V.L.R.B!!
Why you, my little Spanish darkie. Go fry yourself some tacos.
truth,
You are wobbling out of control! You implied that I was a “White Supremacist” and now I am a taco eating “Spanish darkie”? u b trippin 4 sho!
V.L.R.B!!
See, this is a clear example of why people do mudslinging under the anonymity of a screen-name like “truthregardless” for instance. If this chicken-shit ever met me face to face do you think he would make the preceding comments to my face? Hell no! He’d head for the damn hills like the punk bitch he is.