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Sounds like a really great idea!
I’d just like to mention that the attorneys for poor ol’ Scotter Libby have file a brief requesting the charges against him be dropped.
It seems sthat there is no Constituional authority for Fitzgerald to have filed the charges!
Hank
Make that “Scooter”.
Make that “Scooter”.
Are you sure that you want an open comments thread with Ian Santiago around? lol
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
How far will WSU go in the Tourneys?
I’d like to talk about the members of our legislature that care more about their radical political agenda than actually protecting the health of Kansas’s when going for an outpatient opperation. Specifically Eric Carter and Brenda Landwehr, but including 60 other representatives.
Jeff H
This wouldnt have anything to do with the fact that hair salons face greater scrutiny by State health organizations than abortion clinics do would it?
Now that the legislature has passed this law ALL clinics (including abortion) will be thuroughly scrutinized, no thanks to the conservative republicans.
WSU will take the MVC title with a win over Illinois this Saturday!
I have no idea what will happen in the NCAA tournament…
It will be nice to just to see the shockers in it.
Oh yeah, lord forbid we have sanitary and safe clinics…
A modest proposal;
“Blogger Scale” Neededttp://theflyoverzone.blogspot.com/2006/02/blogger-scale-needed.html
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http://theflyoverzone.blogspot.com/2006/02/blogger-scale-needed.html
The latest reason why is sucks to be a Bush supporter–even rock-ribbed CONSERVATIVES hate what he’s doing the country.
Former Reaganite Says Bush making fiscal messPosted by William Neikirk at 4:28 pm CST
“A new book argues that President George W. Bush has all but bankrupted the country with his tax cuts and big-government programs, such as the Medicare prescription drug benefit.
“It contends that Bush has put the country in such a financial position that taxes will have to be increased substantially sooner or later. And it says that Bush doesn’t care much for reading or serious policy analysis and runs an administration filled with hubris and doesn’t tolerate internal dissent.
“The title is stunning: ‘Imposter: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy.’ The author is Bruce Bartlett, an economist who worked in the Reagan administration. The publisher is Doubleday, not some highly suspect publishing company with a political axe to grind.
“Release of the book comes at an inopportune time for Bush, who is struggling with low poll ratings and an unpopular war and has just announced the largest budget deficit in American history. Conservatives are increasingly suspicious of him, and Republican members of Congress standing for re-election this year are talking of putting some distance between themselves and Bush.”
“Bartlett has written an economics column for years, and has remained true to Reagan principles of small government, low tax rates, free trade and lighter government regulation.
“It is no secret that many conservatives who consider themselves true Reaganites are turning against Bush, but Bartlett doesn’t pull any punches in his indictment of a man who, in his opinion, has betrayed many of Reagan’s principles.
“While the White House portrays Bush as a conservative president with a conservative agenda, he writes that conservatives know better.
“‘He is simply a partisan Republican, anxious to improve the fortunes of his party, to be sure. But he is perfectly willing to jettison conservative principles at a moment’s notice to achieve that goal,’ Bartlett writes.
“Bush faults Bush’s tax cuts, calling them ill-designed. He finds his trade policy too dotted with protectionist moves, adding that he has the worst policy on free trade since Herbert Hoover. The Medicare prescription drug bill is ‘the worst legislation in history’ because of his massive future costs, he says, and he has not vetoed a single bill as he increased the size of government. Two of the unkindest cuts in the book: Bill Clinton had a better record on controlling the deficit, he says, and Bush has the many of the same kinds of policies as Richard Nixon.
“Indeed, he notes, Nixon expanded government and regulation, not to mention his adoption of wage-price controls. Nixon is regarded as one of the worst presidents in history, he writes, and Bush could be well on his way to that same status when the reckoning day comes for his fiscal policies.
“He says that conservatives feel that their agenda has been virtually stalemated since the Iraqi war and don’t like Bush’s immigration policy, which calls for a guest worker program.
“There is great concern among conservatives that Bush’s policies will cause the Republicans to lose the presidency in 2008, he says. Bartlett added he hopes that a ’serious conservative challenger for the Republican nomination emerges soon’ and that the party does not have to suffer a crushing defeat ‘before its current leadership is sufficiently discredited to allow new faces, voices and ideas to emerge. Historically, both parties have found people to fill this role when their backs were against the wall. But, sadly, they sometimes had to have their backs against the wall.’
“It’s bad news for Bush that someone with Bartlett’s conservative credentials has taken up the public cudgel against a president who proudly calls himself a conservative.
“The White House indicated it was aware of the book, but a spokeswoman, Erin Healy, said, ‘We typically don’t do book reviews..’”http://www.smirkingchimp.com/viewtopic.php?topic=63119&forum=18
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First, Bush Co. had to defend their policies againsttheir political enemies. Now, they have to defend them against THEIR FORMER ALLIES.
I particularly appreciated the conservative Bartlett’s observation that heretofore Nixon was considered the worst modern president, but that Bush is out-Nixon-ing even Nixon.
It’s what we liberals have been saying all along — Worst. President. Ever.
“Report: NSA continues controversial data-mining program
Total Information Awareness projects, shut down by Congress in 2003, funded under different plan.
By Tom Regan | csmonitor.com:” In 2003, Congress voted to shut down a controversial program called Total Information Awareness (TIA). The project, which would have linked major information databases together in order to “hunt for terrorists,” was shut down primarily because of privacy concerns, but also because its main advocate was Adm. John Poindexter, known for his involvement with the Iran-Contra scandal of the 1980s. Wired.com reported at the time that US senators from both parties, saying “they feared government snooping against ordinary Americans,” voted to block funding for TIA.It now appears, however, that the controversial program, which was first brought to the public’s attention in 2002, is continuing. The National Journal reported Thursday that TIA “was stopped in name only” and has been continued within the National Security Agency (NSA), the intelligence agency now fending off charges that it has violated the privacy of US citizens in the domestic wiretapping scandal.”
” The National Journal reports that the Pentagon transferred two of the most important TIA components of TIA to Advanced Research and Development Activity (ARDA), located at NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Md. One piece was the Information Awareness Prototype System. It helped extract, analyze and disseminate data collected under the project. Once the Senate cut off funding, ARDA stepped forward to fund the program and it was given a new name “Basketball.” All references to TIA were dropped. ”
“The other key component of the original plan was known as Genoa II, “which focused on building information technologies to help analysts and policy makers anticipate and pre-empt terrorist attacks.” It was renamed “Topsail.” While Topsail was active as late as October of 2005, intelligence sources indicate that its funding, also from ARDA, may be in question.
This is not the first time the story of continued funding for TIA programs has surfaced. The Associated Press first reported two years ago to the day that the government is still financing research to create powerful tools that could mine millions of public and private records for information about terrorists despite an uproar last year over fears it might ensnare innocent Americans.”
“The whole congressional action looks like a shell game,” said Steve Aftergood of the Federation of American Scientists, which tracks work by US intelligence agencies. “There may be enough of a difference for them to claim TIA was terminated while for all practical purposes the identical work is continuing.”The issue resurfaced again earlier this month when, during a hearing of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Ron Hayden (D) of Oregon, one of the chief critics of TIA, asked John Negroponte, the head of Domestic Security, Robert Mueller, head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Gen. Michael Hayden, the former head of the NSA, if “Poindexter’s programs are going on somewhere else?” While Mr. Negroponte and Mr. Mueller said they did not know the answer to the question, Gen. Hayden said he would only answer the question in closed session. In early February, the Christian Science Monitor reported on the government’s plan for a massive data sweep that “could troll news, blogs, even e-mails.” The program that would do this is called “ADVISE,” Analysis, Dissemination, Visualization, Insight, and Semantic Enhancement.ADVISE “looks very much like TIA,” [Lee Tien, a staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation] writes in an e-mail. “There’s the same emphasis on broad collection and pattern analysis.”But [Peter Sand, director of privacy technology], the DHS official, emphasizes that privacy protection would be built-in. “Before a system leaves the department there’s been a privacy review…. That’s our focus.”
Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration, former Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and one-time Contributing Editor of National Review, writes in the liberal website Counterpunch that the repeated assaults on America’s freedoms under the guise of “fighting terrorism” mean that “Americans have forgotten what it takes to remain free. Instead, every ideology, every group is determined to use government to advance its agenda. As the government’s power grows, the people are eclipsed.”Americans need to understand that many interests are using the “war on terror” to achieve their agendas. The Federalist Society is using the “war on terror” to achieve its agenda of concentrating power in the executive and packing the Supreme Court to this effect. The neocons are using the war to achieve their agenda of Israeli hegemony in the Middle East. Police agencies are using the war to remove constraints on their powers and to make themselves less accountable. Republicans are using the war to achieve one-party rule–theirs. The Bush administration is using the war to avoid accountability and evade constraints on executive powers. Arms industries, or what President Eisenhower called the “military-industrial complex,” are using the war to fatten profits. Terrorism experts are using the war to gain visibility. Security firms are using it to gain customers. Readers can add to this list at will. The lack of debate gives carte blanche to these agendas….more….http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0224/dailyUpdate.html
On a different note…anyone see The Daily Show the other night? VP Cheney HAD to shoot his friend so as NOT to appear weak to the quail. He had taken aim and it would have sent exactly the wrong message to the quail had he not fired. :))
I will use this space to keep it real!
V.L.R.B!!
Despite growing ‘diversity’ and innumerable laws and programs to force the races together, the human subspecies’ tendencies to naturally sort and segregate themselves is just too powerful.
by Ann Hendon
DESPITE ITS MULTIRACIALIST stance, a Harvard University study group finds much of what it calls “progress” eliminated in recent years by the powerful forces of human difference:
‘Nearly 50 years after the U.S. Supreme Court declared Southern segregated schools to be unconstitutional, resegregation is happening again. And it is occurring despite the nation’s growing diversity. According to Gary Orfield (pictured), co-director of The Civil Rights Project and professor at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, resegregation is contributing to a growing gap in quality between the schools being attended by white students and those serving a large proportion of minority students.
‘Census data show that, increasingly, there will be entire metropolitan areas and states with either no majority group or where the majority group will be Latino or African American. This will be a new experience in American educational history. Researchers at The Civil Rights Project recommend several policy actions, including the following, in order to curb racial and ethnic polarization and educational inequalities: 1) Expansion of the federal magnet school program and the imposition of similar desegregation requirements for federally supported charter schools. 2) Active support by private foundations and community groups of efforts to continue local desegregation plans and programs, through research, advocacy and litigation.’
Orfield (who is Jewish) and his “Civil Rights Project” have discovered some of the biological facts of race that progressive thinkers have recognized for years — but they haven’t yet accepted the conclusion that forcing the races together is a recipe for social disaster and can never make the races “equal” in any significant sense anyway. Orfield, by the way, is a radical change agent who makes no effort to conceal his agenda. He was quoted in 2001 by Nat Hentoff as saying our schools “are really our only tool to build an interracial society. …We’re not making any progress on the housing front.”
Literally trillions of dollars — enough to solve many of America’s economic and infrastructure woes — have been wasted on the chimera of “racial equality” since such efforts began in earnest in the 1960s, with success further beyond the horizon than ever. More forced “integration” is not the solution — oceans of money can be saved, and oceans of tears need never be shed over the violence, disease, and societal degradation caused by racial mixing if we will recognize one simple fact: Every people deserves — and will come closer to reaching its full potential — if it has its own educational system, and its own government. It’s simple biology.
What this and many other studies are telling us is that, even given the massive push for artificial racial mixing engineered by the government and the controlled media, the races spontaneously self-segregate through numerous and powerful natural mechanisms, including but not limited to appearance, standards of beauty, intellectual attainment, cultural values, and behavioral norms.
Source article
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=8050
What a surprise, the Bush hatred did not start in the first 10 posts.
That is about what I expected with an ‘open thread’…let’s whine and complain about this country some more. I am just amazed the first Bush hate posts weren’t sooner.
Let’s talk about how the Federal government is and has always been the number one enemy of Radical America. Both for the Left (Black Panthers, Weather Underground) and the Right (KKK, Aryan Nation)
CX,
The federal government is in fact the enmy of all Americans, except for the zionists and the corporate robber barons!
“Let he who hath no sword sell hiscloak and buy one.” –Jesus, Luke 22:36.
George Will once told a story in a column about President Ronald Reagan, after listening to detailed scientific and budgetary presentations on an ambitious $4.4 billion atom smasher project, recited Jack London’s personal credo:
I would rather be ashes than dust,I would rather my spark should burn out in a brilliant blaze,Than it should be stifled in dry rot,I would rather be a superb meteor,With every atom of me in a magnificent glow,Than a sleepy and permanent planet.
Then Reagan said that London’s credo was read to Ken Stabler, the NFL quarterback, who was asked what it meant. Stabler said: “Throw Deep.” Reagan supported the project.
Today we seem to be woefully lacking leaders with a “throw deep” mentality and vision. Some spout speech writer rhetoric that tries to sound like it, but the the genuine article can’t be faked. I heard it it in person once. In my college days, as the student responsible for bringing in guest lectures and speakers, Former Vice-President Hubert H. Humphrey, then a Minnesota Senator, agreed to make a speech.
Senator Humphrey was a populist Democrat born of the old Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor party, who earned his political stripes as a reformer cleaning up corruption in Minneapolis. He was also one of the last barn burner speakers, in the Chautauqua tradition. The man was a believer with a vision that could make even his opponents smile and cheer before he was through. He had the deserved nickname of the “Happy Warrior”.
The “Great Communicator” and the “Happy Warrior” were political opposites, but strikingly similar as men. Both had an innate optimism, fighting their battles without malice or mean spiritedness. Both placed being an American before partisanship. Both had the ability to cut through detail and short term thinking to see the goal posts, and the courage to go for it. They had the ability to inspire and uplift.
We need such men in both parties today, as real leaders are needed in difficult times. If we are fortunate, perhaps one or two will surface before the next presidential election. We could use some inspiring and uplifting from a positive voice with the vision to throw deep.
http://theflyoverzone.blogspot.com/2006/02/leaders-writers-and-quarterbacks.html
How about talking about what the first thing Morrison will do after he’s sworn into office in January? And how about Kline? Will he be selling Bibles or will he try to run for some other office? I hear Topeka needs a dog catcher.
Thanks, Brandon!! It was really refreshing to read a sensible, logical, and well thought out post than the vapid hate that has been so regularly spewing forth here.
Your post was like a breath of fresh air…thanks for taking the time to write it.
It was interesting to note that the recently declassified files of the FBI included dossiers on both Left and Right groups during the late sixties and early seventies. They had infiltrated groups on both side with informers. They had dossiers on everyone who they deemed “enemies of the state” and it was the FBI who was responsible for devising the term “new left”, and were responsible for linking them to Communism. They infiltrated the Klan and to this day keep up to date on neo-Nazi groups. The FBI’s blunders on Ruby Ridge and Waco only fuelled anti-government sentiment of the Right, and convinced them that the government was out to rob them of their freedoms. Reprisals from the right include the Oklahoma city bombing on April 19th. (April 19th being a sacred day for skinheads neo-Nazis, the 20th is Hitler’s birthday) Also, the Columbine shootings were on the same date. Organizations on the left that have been attacked and had surveillance done on them which led to violent encounters with police included the Black Panthers. The Weather Underground were far more difficult to keep tabs on and had plotted to blow up buildings in New York, however their bomb-manufacturing safe-house was ruined due to the group’s inexperience with explosives.
Bush thinks the constitution is nothing more than a G-d piece of paper. That makes him the greatest threat this country has ever known.
That may not be “refreshing,” but it’s the truth.
Yeah, I caught that line Brian, pretty funny. Something about “Cheney _had_ to shoot Whittington or it would have sent a message to the quail that America is weak.”
The Daily Show that Monday and even Tuesday night was way funny.
When courts—as happened in Massachusetts—find same-sex “marriage” to be a constitutional and fundamental human right, the ACLU will argue that the government is underwriting discrimination by offering tax exemptions to churches and synagogues that only honor biblical marriage. What does this mean, people? It means that once same-sex marriage is legalized nationally, YOUR CHURCHES WILL BE FORCED TO RECOGNIZE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. FURTHERMORE, IN CANADA WHERE SAME-SEX “MARRIAGE” IS LEGALIZED, IF YOU SPEAK NEGATIVELY ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY, YOU GO TO JAIL. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT OUR COUNTRY TO BECOME?
I think we need to take baby steps, CX. Civil unions that provide all of the rights of marriage are the best step right now. Churches definitely shouldn’t be forced to marry same sex couples. Would civil unions prevent the churches from losing their tax status for not marrying same sex couples?
You know, every argument against gay marriage can be substituted with interracial marriage. I wrote about this in one of my blogs…I should go dig it up, unless crappy myspace lost it.
Just look at that Pastor in Sweden who dared to be critical of homosexuality? What happened to him? They threw him in jail! That’s what happened to him! My fellow Americans, beware of those that seek to deny you your God-given right to preach and teach your religion! Beware of those that seek to trample on your First Amendment right! Beware those who wish to once again throw the Christians to the lions!
Anyone catch on the Nat. News tonight that Beaumont Texas port which ships 1/3 of all equipment and weapons to Iraq would be included in the Dubai Deal? Taliban sympathizers running the port, what was Bush thinking, has he been drinking?
Tara,
In order to get a perspective on where the homosexual activist movement is taking us, one can simply look at our neighbors to the north. Canada is leading the way on this revolutionary path. I could cite dozens of examples indicating that religious freedom in that country is dying. Indeed, on April 28, 2004, the Parliament passed bill C 250, which effectively criminalized speech or writings that criticize homosexuality. Anything deemed to be “homophobic” can be punished by six months in prison or by other severe penalties.
Pastors and priests in Canada are wondering if they can preach from Leviticus or Romans 1 or other passages from the writings of the apostle Paul. Will a new Bible be mandated that is bereft of “hate speech”? Consider this: A man who owned a printing press in Canada was fined $3,400 for refusing to print stationary for a homosexual activist organization.
Censorship is already in full swing.
Is that kind of censorship coming to the United States. Yes, I believe it is. Once homosexual marriage is legalized, if indeed that is where we are headed, laws based on what will be considered “equality” will bring many changes in the law. Furthermore, it is likely that non-profit organizations that refuse to hire homosexuals on religious grounds will lose their tax exemptions. Some Christian colleges and universities are already worrying about that possibility.
Ah, found ithttp://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.listAll&friendID=18621865&startID=32974122&StartPostedDate=2005-06-26%2010:05:00&next=1&page=7&Mytoken=68893981-138F-1398-7423779E2588022A43255136
I for one refuse to let the freedoms we hold dear go down the toilet! I for one refuse to let people rob me of my rights to read from Leviticus and Romans! I will let no one edit the Bible for the sake of political correctness! That is not democracy! That is not freedom! That is a secularistic fascism! If we end up like another Canada I will fight this government tooth and nail! I will arm myself, and I will declare war on the Federal Government!
Steve,
I don’t think they are even going to be running the “entire” port. Just certain parts of it.
Just more links without cause…
Tara,I don’t care about gay people getting married. I do care about the legislation of “same-sex marriage” inevitably treading underfoot our right of FREE SPEECH!!! I DON’T GIVE A SHIT WHETHER GAY PEOPLE GET MARRIED, MY BEEF IS WITH THE MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT AS WELL AS MY RIGHT TO PRACTICE MY RELIGION WITHOUT THREAT OF THE F***ING GOVERNMENT DICTATING TO ME WHAT I CAN’T AND CAN’T SAY AND WHAT I CAN AND CAN’T BELIEVE! LIKE FASCIST CANADA.
Libby’s lawyers are trying every angle they can think of, Fitz. didn’t have the authority; Defendant demands PDB’s to mount defense, knowing Bush would claim executive prive. and derail the case; they want to supoena news organizations and reporters hoping they will get a first ammendmant fight. And, failing all else they’ll use the ” I was just so overwhelmed, I forgot” excuse.
CrusaderX, is that really you?
What is with all the swearing?
I don’t want Foreign state owned corporations operating any America port. That include China. Congress needs to pass a bill stating this common sense security doctrine.
The govt. is busy reclassifying information that has been open for decades. Guess it’s part of ‘thought control’.
Calm down, CX.The government will never dictate to you what you can and cannot say. Look at people like Ian Santiago or Fred Phelps. Free speech isn’t going anywhere.And how on earth is the government going to control what you believe?
And you really think letting two people get married is going to cause all of this mayhem?
Hmm.BTW, are you in law school? I thought I remembered reading that somewhere.
ProudLib is like a rotten little chickenshit third grader threatening to tattle on a classmate for shooting spitballs. He shoots them himself but when he gets hit in the nose with one he threatens to tell the teacher like the rotten little chickenshit he is.
ProudLib, you’re a college professor arent you. Cant get by in the real world so you act like you can teach I’ll bet.
Nathan,You’re damn right it’s me. They are trying to turn America into another China! Where the church has to go underground to congregate! I will not stand for that! That is not the America I grew up in or hold dear! In our America the government does not dictate what we can teach or preach in our churches / congregations! I am enraged, and so should any Christian and any advocate of free speech about how the legalization of same-sex marriage has treaded underfoot free speech and religious freedom in Canada, and like I said before, if our government adopts similar policies, then they better be ready to consider me Public Enemy Number One!
Tara,When courts—as happened in Massachusetts—find same-sex “marriage” to be a constitutional and fundamental human right, the ACLU will argue that the government is underwriting discrimination by offering tax exemptions to churches and synagogues that only honor biblical marriage. What does this mean, people? It means that once same-sex marriage is legalized nationally, YOUR CHURCHES WILL BE FORCED TO RECOGNIZE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. FURTHERMORE, IN CANADA WHERE SAME-SEX “MARRIAGE” IS LEGALIZED, IF YOU SPEAK NEGATIVELY ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY, YOU GO TO JAIL. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT OUR COUNTRY TO BECOME?
Ever since Doug Mays let out a bunch of profanities on the Statehouse floor certain people now seem to think such language is appropriate.
Heckler,Do you have something against college professors specifically, or are you one of those people who dislike intellectuals in general?
Hmm, guess we do need this…
“Blogger Scale” NeededAfter reading many blogs and the comments that accompany them, there seems to be a need to better describe political bloggers. The convention of party affiliation or words like right or left doesn’t always capture the character of their writing. Perhaps something on the order of a logarithmic scale – such as the Richter Scale is in order. Here’s what is proposed:
1-3 on the Scale might be described as “Independents”. This includes people who are not politically inclined, and have no particular ideological bent. They are often the pragmatic folk who post on the meat and potatoes issues they think might affect their daily lives. Though they are a large group, say about 30% of the American population, they are under-represented on blogs. Posting requires more energy than these low scorers on the Blogger Scale usually care to expend.
4-6 on the Scale encompasses many Republican and Democrats. They have a political philosophy, and can articulate their position on issues based on fact and analysis. The tone of the writing usually stays within the bounds of reasoned discourse. They may defend a point with passion, but not so much so that they cannot see all sides of an issue and other points of view. An exchange of ideas occurs within this range.
7-8 on the Scale begins to depart from logic, and here is where posting starts to reflect zealotry more than reason. The thinking process begins to assume a one dimensionality, often expressed in anger, personal attacks, name calling, and profanity. Right now, the far left seems to be over-represented in this range. It may be that frustration at the current Republican dominance of most Governorships, both houses of Congress, the Presidency, and the new Supreme Court Appointees have pushed more on the left to this extreme. Bloggers in this range trade salvos from their entrenched positions.
9 is where the blogging gets nuts. Here reside the true Bush hating conspiracy theorists, the White Supremacists and other fringe denizens of the blogging world. The posts are readily identifiable by the high degree of hatred they contain. Single issue obsessives on both sides of “hot button” issues find a home here. Tirades and rants are all that remain. The skewed reality of these unfortunates precludes any attempt at discussion. They are grossly over-represented in blogs as they seem to never tire of their “serial blogging” posts.
10 is reserved for the just plain insane. Reverend Phelps and Harry Belafonte live together in their own little universe. The posts of a 10 are so extreme that they reach toxic levels. Reader beware, exposure may be hazardous to your health.
This new system has practical value for the blogger. Blogs themselves can be assigned a numerical rating on the Blogger Scale, giving potential readers a useful insight into the contents. Some may prefer the interplay and thoughts of a “5-er” blog, while others may like the heat of a good “7.5-er”. “10” blogs might be accompanied by a warning before entering the site.
It can be helpful in dealing with individual bloggers as well. Comments of bloggers might be rated and averaged on their profiles. “Oh, I made the mistake of responding to an “8’s” post, boy did I flamed.”It might even help to moderate the discourse on blogs a little. No E-bay member wants a bad rating. Maybe bloggers would try to avoid being a “8”. Of course “9” and “10” raters are beyond redemption, but perhaps many “7” or “8’s” could be saved.
I like this idea.Here’s a question I’d like to throw out to whoever wants to answer:I was in Washington earlier this month to discuss DTV legislation with members of the Commerce Committee.The whole discussion has degenerated into a pissing match between NAB and NCTA.When the switch to digital comes in 2009 (the only thing everyone agrees on), the big stations want to require cable to carry all six of their subchannels.The cable industry says that if this is forced on them, they will go to court to have it thrown out (even I can’t say as I blame them), and throw all local stations off cable.Meanwhile, we have the new AT&T bill in Kansas, which would provide IPTV, (700-1500 channels for a lot less than Demon Cox is charging).Given these three choices:a) IPTV from the phone company;b) Cable with no local channels;c) 52-75 channels over the air in Wichita, FREE OF CHARGE;Which would you pick?
Tara
I have great disdain for highly educated idiots who can’t change a light bulb teaching other people how to think.
My rant against ProudLib mentioned college professors becouse he strikes me as being the Ward Churchill type. At first listen he seems pretty intelligent but after a while you figure out he’s just another intellectual idiot. And a chickenshit to boot.
CX,What’s the alternative? Keep the gays from getting together so your utterly improbable and insane vision of an anti-church state won’t come to pass?You do realize how Christian our country is, don’t you? How can you possibly think we’ll end up like China?”FURTHERMORE, IN CANADA WHERE SAME-SEX “MARRIAGE” IS LEGALIZED, IF YOU SPEAK NEGATIVELY ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY, YOU GO TO JAIL”Well, aside from whether that’s true or not, we’re not Canada. We value our 1st amendment rights. I repeat: Even 40 years after the Civil Rights movement, there are people like the KKK who speak out against blacks/other minorities. They don’t go to jail, they just get laughed at.
Satan wears a bracelet that says “what would crux do?”
Ks,HA!!! I KNEW THAT WOULD GET YOUR ATTENTION! I THOUGHT I WAS ON “IGNORE”?MUHAHAHAHAHA!
Tara,Yeah I know, C-250 has a provision barring prosecution of anyone who is critical of homosexuality in a religious context. I just wanted to get Ks’s attention so I can aplogize to her.
Ks,I’m sorry I called you a senile old beeyatch. I hope we can still be friends. I miss arguing with you. :)
Your pal,Crux
You gotta admit though,I can be completely full of sh*t but still be able to make a convincing argument. Yep! I’m becoming more and more like a lawyer everyday.
This may have too many posting now, but can somebody tell the City of Wichita to fix the street lights?
I notice many street lights on Kellogg that’s been off for months. Even the new strecth of Kellogg from Oliver to Town East are all off and have been for the last several days.
What gives?
Oh – and many thanks Raptor!
Bwahahaha! I’m a tool. I feel so used, CX. Here you got me all riled up for nothing.
Can we use this open thread to debate the supposed “holocau$t”? If anyone really believes that the “holocau$st” happened then I would love to debate them!
“Race, Faith, Family and Work”!!
Explain, first, why you think that the Holocaust didn’t happen, Santiago. You seem pretty sure of yourself.
Good grief, goes anyone here have a sense of humor. Is there anything to discuss other than politics?Anyone done this: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/6790966/detail.html?subid=22100484&qs=1;bp=t#
Or Thought of doing this (Ed, don’t get too excited) :http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4748292.stm
Or might want a piece of her? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4748292.stm
Or thought your cold was bad? http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/050610_mucus.html
Or tried the newest craze: http://www.impactlab.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7430
You people need to get a life!
Ian, the holocast was brought to you by some slimeball degenerate from your past; deal with it. (Did I say that?)
Oh, yeah, my LIFE is so much more fufilled now that I read your link on “Man Marries Goat.”
Thanks for giving me a life . . .
Hey . . . wasn’t that the book that George W. was reading when the worst terrorist attack in our nation’s history occured? “I Married a Goat?”
Turned out we elected a goat . . . or at least the electoral college “elected” him.
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Hey . . . wasn’t that the book that George W. was reading when the worst terrorist attack in our nation’s history occured? “I Married a Goat?”
Turned out we elected a goat . . . or at least the electoral college “elected” him.”
See what I mean? No humor. all politics.
PL, you would do well with a goat, but I’m betting a flying Carp would be more to your taste.
“ProudLib is like a rotten little chickenshit third grader threatening to tattle on a classmate for shooting spitballs. He shoots them himself but when he gets hit in the nose with one he threatens to tell the teacher like the rotten little chickenshit he is.”
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Heckler, take a pill. You’re coming unglued.
Why are you conservatives so ANGRY?
BTW, I just got back from building a vacation cabin with my dad. It involved screwing in light bulbs and many other “real world” skills.
Looks like you’re wrong again, dipswitch.
CX; GIVE IT A REST & tahe Fn chill pill, The world is not going to end if gay people get married!
Tara–
Heckler writes, “I have great disdain for highly educated idiots who can’t change a light bulb teaching other people how to think.”
Virulent anti-intellectualism has a long history in this country. Heckler is only the most recent example of it.
You have to have something when you got nothing . . .
Also, who the hell is Ward Churchill?
Here ya go PL.
http://www.speakersandartists.org/People/WardChurchill.html
Here ya go “Bernie”. This is just for openers!
IMAGINARY SLAUGHTER The question most pertinent to the extermination legend is, of course: how many of the 3 million European Jews under German control survived after 1945? The Jewish Joint Distribution Committee estimated the number of survivors in Europe to be only one and a half million, but such a figure is now totally unacceptable. This is proved by the growing number of Jews claiming compensation from the West German Government for having allegedly suffered between 1939 and 1945. By 1965, the number of these claimants registered with the West German Government had tripled in ten years and reached 3,375,000 (Aufbau, June 30th, 1965). Nothing could be a more devastating proof of the brazen fantasy of the Six Million. Most of these claimants are Jews, so there can be no doubt that the majority of the 3 million Jews who experienced the Nazi occupation of Europe are, in fact, very much alive. It is a resounding confirmation of the fact that Jewish casualties during the Second World War can only be estimated at a figure in thousands. Surely this is enough grief for the Jewish people? Who has the right to compound it with vast imaginary slaughter, marking with eternal shame a great European nation, as well as wringing fraudulent monetary compensation from them.http://www.zundelsite.org/english/harwood/Didsix01.html#9
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
I think a worthy thread for a blog would be : I am Republican and proud of it.
I think is a state SO beknighted in thinking, I could learn alot about who and why people so stodgily and stupidly embrace the GOP.
Is it because they think if they thump their chest and say “me Republican!” it will get themsome sort of share of the long dead concept that was the “American dream”?
Do these folks consistently vote GOP because it is a religious thing? And if so, do they pretend to channel what “god” wants?
See the deal is, I used to be a Republican. Then I found out that all that party cared about was making money and exercising power and judgement over other people. And this at the exclusion of all other concerns. Environment? Worker rights? Quality of life? These and many other issues seem not important to Republican voters. For God gold or guns they seem too eager to blindly go along.
SO how about it? A blog that asks Republicans why ARE you Republican? Vet it further with demand that posters expose what they do and what they believe and why. I would really like to understand these people who so overwhelmingly control politics in my state. But who I largely see as either purely evil or sadly deluded.
Philip, the idea for an open blog appears to be a bad one, judgeing by the lunatic blogging by both the left and right here. One doesn’t need sleeping pills, one only has the read the open thread, and sleep will by inevitable. Where’s my pillow . . . damn, the goat ate it.
JM,
Were you expecting Dave Barry type irreverence? lol
V.L.R.B!!
Heres the ling to the Beaumont army port story:http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/24/national/main1343339.shtml
I can’t understand anti-intellectualism. How can knowing stuff be a bad thing?
PL, I think it’s the perceived arrogance they hate, not the being educated itself. That makes more sense.
“Sudan man forced to ‘marry’ goat”
From the life is stranger than fiction department:
http://theflyoverzone.blogspot.com/2006/02/sudan-man-forced-to-marry-goat.html
“That is about what I expected with an ‘open thread’…let’s whine and complain about this country some more. I am just amazed the first Bush hate posts weren’t sooner.”
rapter it has become like tell everyone that the sun is shining at ten o’clock in the morning. Those that do not know already will never care. And those that did know it is old news. The only thing that becomes interesting it when he does something new. Then it is simply dismiss as “what did you expect?”. It has gotten to the point that there just is no more room for any more hatred of G.W.It is like how much more hate could be in your heart for someone that killed your child or raped your mother. G.W has finally hit that point as to the hatred that is felt.
Most already have hit the point that if he is not hung in the public squire for treason. He should be, if not move on.
Did anyone notice the 6 ports have now turned into 21 ports that the UAE will control?
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060223-051657-4981r
Thanks for this open thread. It’s nice to be able to bring up topics that are interesting to us that no one is talking about.
Right now it looks like Bush is the main topic, but that’s just because there is so much crap going on that involves his misjudgements.
I”d like to make a suggestion.Is there any way to tree off someone’s post in an open thread? Where a poster can respond to a certain thread and the post appear linked, so we could follow the threads that people pick up?
The attack on intellectualism is a dangerous thing.Consider how many of the scientific reports are being rewritten by laymen.Keep people dumb and they wont’ understand what’s being done to them?
Tara
There’s a distinct difference between an intelligent well educated person and the intellectual idiots I mention. It is in how they treat people. The idiot demeans people to raise their own self esteem. The IWEP educates others and is inquisitive about things he does not understand. The idiot mocks and belittles what he does not understand, he stifles debate. You see a lot of the idiots on college campuses today.
Some of the smartest people I’ve known in my life had little education. As I’m sure you understand, smart and educated do not necessarily go hand in hand. I’ve worked for 3 self made millionaires in my life. One had an eighth grade education, the other two had high school educations.
The idiot always thinks he’s much smarter than he is. The IWEP is an objective self evaluator.
Tara
There’s a distinct difference between an intelligent well educated person and the intellectual idiots I mention. It is in how they treat people. The idiot demeans people to raise their own self esteem. The IWEP educates others and is inquisitive about things he does not understand. The idiot mocks and belittles what he does not understand, he stifles debate. You see a lot of the idiots on college campuses today.
The idiot always thinks he’s much smarter than he is. The IWEP is an objective self evaluator.
Some of the smartest people I’ve known in my life had little education. As I’m sure you understand, smart and educated do not necessarily go hand in hand. I’ve worked for 3 self made millionaires in my life. One had an eighth grade education, the other two had high school educations.
Here you go, Liberal stalwarts, the reason for your constant bitterness. Of course you will get angry at the writer: it’s in your nature; just read this thread: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/opinion/13956273.htm
And for those who still think something will be done to eliminate the greed in congress, here’s Molly: http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/news/columnists/molly_ivins/13940959.htmI believe I said when the Abranhof scandel first popped it’s ugly head, there would be no real reform in congress. I hate being right.
J M
Great article about happiness but I didn’t need a study to figure this out. Just go peruse FreeRepublic.com then go to DemocraticUnderground.com (you may need to take a shower when you get out) and look at the striking difference in attitudes between liberals and conservatives.
Heckler–
If you want an example of a self-made millionare, you’re looking at him.
Actually, I hate that term “self-made.” I lived in a family and a society that taught me how to be successful at (most of) what I wanted to do professionally.
It didn’t teach me how to keep President POS out of office however.
As for your contention that “the idiot mocks and belittles what he can’t understand,” you mean like this?
“ProudLib is like a rotten little chickenshit third grader threatening to tattle on a classmate for shooting spitballs. He shoots them himself but when he gets hit in the nose with one he threatens to tell the teacher like the rotten little chickenshit he is.”
Or is conservative mocking and belittling better?
George Will? The runner-up poster boy for angry conservatives? (oreilly wins of course)
As a professionally angry liberal, yes, I do want things to be better than they are now. I continually stand for things being better. Continuous improvement ya know.
And will says this is a CONSERVATIVE statement?
“The unintended consequences of bold government undertakings are apt to be larger than, and contrary to, the intended ones.”
Gosh, I thought that is what the liberals were saying about the republican medicare prescription plan, and it seems to be true. Seems like that was a big gvt undertaking that resulted in what the liberals predicted.
Also what we said about the iraq war. bush’s henchmens said 1.7 billion in cost, and it is over 200 times that? Another big government undertaking that liberals opposed.
This article doesnt make me angry walker. It makes me laugh first and cry second.
I dont suppose this so called liberal/conservative split has anything to do with income does it? I mean, bigger incomes do equate with more happiness dont they? And we certainly know the r’s are all about having the most personal income!
here is a must see ad
http://www.adcritic.com/interactive/view.php?id=5927
ProudLib said”Or is conservative mocking and belittling better? ”
You tell me ProudLib, your the expert.
I read this on another blog today. Given the gist of this thread, I think she is correct:
My husband was listening to some comedian the other day who was riffing on the whole discrimination against gays obsession that the religious right has developed. The comedian said something to the effect that these folks seem to be playing some sort of weird child’s game of telephone with God.
On the front end, God says, “Be good to each other.” But what they hear is “don’t let gays adopt children.”
She had another good comment on the gay adoption hysteria that is building just in time for the 06 elections.
“With 16 states considering banning gay adoptions in this country (including kansas)…snip…
It’s time for those of us who find this to be a bigoted mindset to stand up and say so. I have very good friends who have provided loving, stable homes to children who would otherwise perhaps still be in an orphanage or in foster care.
What’s next, regulations that only married people get to do in vitro fertilization? Erm…yeah, looks like they are already working on that, too.
You think the line stops at abortion? Think again. It is time that all of us who disagree with an evangelical theocracy being imposed on the entire country stand up and be counted. Government ought not be in my bedroom, and I sure as hell don’t want it telling me or anyone else who I get to love — including telling me whether or not I get to love my child, or my friends get to love theirs.”
It’s “you’re” the expert, Heckler.
“Your” is the possessive pronoun; “you’re” is the contraction YOU’RE looking for . . .
http://www.bopnews.com/archives/005090.html
Forgot the link to the “unauthorized reproduction” article.
And before anyone else says it, this is not a “tinfoil” site. It just doesnt agree with some of you open minded folks.
kfg,”Of course you will get angry at the writer”Nothing laughable about your post, and thank you for proving my point.
“Gosh, I thought that is what the liberals were saying about the republican medicare prescription plan, and it seems to be true. Seems like that was a big gvt undertaking that resulted in what the liberals predicted.”
And Hillary’s would have been different? Boondoggle, yes, but the intended consequences are a bit different from what many Liberals have been saying.
A recent article on the loss of prescriptions being filled by Canada, and the lower cost to people using the new Medicare plans proves that, as difficult as it is to understand, there are a lot of seniors using it. That proves to me the plan is far better than nothing.
The fact the pharmacies are helping seniors understand, and choose the correct plan, says something about the private sector doing its job.
“As a professionally angry liberal, yes, I do want things to be better than they are now.”Who doesn’t? But while I’m out there taking in the whole forest, you’re standing at one tree, bitching about how it makes all the other trees look bad.
Your laughter is not one of humor, but of derision, fueled by anger.
I do like reading your posts, and I agree with much of what you have to say, but, as Ian asks, “Were you expecting Dave Barry type irreverence?” Hell yes I am. Life is still a fun thing to me. I only got one of em, so why waste it being pi**ed off all the time? There’s a time and place for everything, and an open blog present’s the opportunity to post a bit of humor.
Kgf, you have done a commendable job proving Will’s point.
Heckler tells us that we should go to The FreeRepublic to see how much better conservatives argue than liberals.
I took his advice. Here are a few of the kind and wise observations I cut and pasted from just a few minutes ago. They have not been altered in any way.
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On the ports deal—
Alqaeda sympathizers are right here in our own congress
About Muslims—
Another irony – they will simulate cutting off the head to not insult God’s ability to create life. Yet, they will take life in the same way and think nothing of it.
muslims are like Klingons.
I’m not much of a Star Trek fan, but aren’t muslims also like the Borg?
Its their basic mode of operation; infiltrate, conquer, absorb.
If they were worshipping the True God – the Holy Trinity one in essence, as they used to, they would not be the subject to decay and conquest.
I’m thinking a 21st Century Crusade against Islam.
And the only way these innocent victims will get some reasonable compensation is if the whole thing can be portrayed not as the inevitable result of liberal policies, which is what it is, but as another example of the White sexist racist anti-gay culture acting like they don’t kneel before an image of Hillary every morning when they rise.
Change your name to Shaka Shabazz Zulu, that will put a kink in the system.
On “Brokeback Mountain”—
Makes me wonder how many members of the Academy are either members of NAMBLA or convicted sex offenders.
Hollywood loves movies that “give the finger” to red state Americans.
The first few times it was shocking — like watching the high school slut walk off behind the gym for the 5th time. Now it’s just creepy.
Its time to “lock and load” – on the Left’s cultural garbage.
I think the biggest fear America should have is the trend towards more “stupid, fat, lazy, “happy and content” with little to no values….(Homer Simpsons)” Americans. The Democratic party seems to encourage such behavior.
On George Clooney—
One cannot underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.
If so, this is better news than it probably appears to be. I thought Leftists were genetically incapable of comprehending reality.
What is it with the left and the cult of personality? I know Arnold is a Republican, but I doubt he would have been elected in a red state. Conservatives tend to vote for ideas and not personalities.
The problem is that when it comes to politics, Clooney is dumb as a box of Poprocks. Ever hear him hold forth on “the issues”? Yeesh. Plus, dopes like this don’t seem to realize that when he isn’t co-starring with Brad Pitt or Mark Wahlberg, his movies flop.
Thats spelled Clooney, but its pernounced with a silent C.
“You say our country’s never been invaded? You’re right, little buddy. Because I’d like to see the needle-d!cked foreigners who’d have the guts to try. We drink napalm to get our hearts started in the morning. A rape and a mugging is our way of saying ‘Cheerio.’ Hell can’t hold our sock-hops. We walk taller, talk louder, spit further, f*ck longer and buy more things than you know the names of. I’d rather be a junkie in a New York City jail than king, queen, and jack of all you Europeans. We eat little countries like this for breakfast and sh!t them out before lunch.”
Of course, the guy should have punched me. But this was Europe. He just smiled his shabby, superior European smile. (God, don’t these people have dentists?)
P.J. O’Rourke – “Holidays In Hell
He also seems like an a-hole in real life, as several people have attested to in the past.
On a protest against wiretaps—
I don’t see what the big deal is. I listen to cell phone calls on my scanner all the time. Well, except when I’m sleeping. They are usually quite boring.
Makes you glad they are on the other side watching these super morons in action.
The loony left strikes again. I am so sick of these idiots. Barf Alert.
My completely unsupported theory is this: those who can be identified as conservative, by today’s perverse definition of conversative, or liberal actually represent two different personality types (identification: if you read the MSM and find yourself thinking “that’s biased”, then you’re probably a conservative).
For some reason, the conservatives need to have a tangible thing to hate. I’m talking visceral, bp-spiking, eye-bulging disgust. That outlet makes them feel better somehow; it just feels good.
I don’t condemn or even judge this personality type based on my empirical observation. That’s because my theory posits that this hatred is a coping mechanism, one that’s completely un-self-examined. It’s just the way they are, nothing they or anybody else can do about it. Condemning or judging them is just wasted energy on my part.
With commies gone, there are 2 rich targets currently in vogue: Islamofascists and gays. For the “conservative” personality type, happiness must be a zero-sum game. The happiness of gays subtracts happiness from conservatives, and for conservatives to increase their happiness gays must suffer.
If I”m correct, then even if Islamofascists were eliminated and gays somehow made invisible, some other set of humans would find the bright red dot of hate on their collective forehead.
Or something like that. :)
Again, this is my own harebrained theory, a theory posited for your entertainment in an open thread.
Flike, you’re exactly right.
Orwell foresaw it all in “1984″–remember the “minute of hate” against the traitor Emanuel Goldstein?
Nothing succeeds in whipping up the “useful idiots” (Stalin’s term) like an enemy to rally against . . .
Walker, with all due respect, I did not find the article funny. If that makes me an angry and dour liberal, then so be it. I post jokes here on a regular basis. I suppose pointing out utter stupidity is only funny when the cons do it.
I also tire of being called angry, and especially in the context of the “cons” being so happy and not angry. There isnt anything angry in my post.
Did your “funny” detector not pick up this comment? “On the front end, God says, “Be good to each other.” But what they hear is “don’t let gays adopt children.” I guess it is only funny if it is making fun of the libs.
god and religious tyranny are only funny when the cons say it is? Read a few of the jesus freaks here walker. Do they sound happy? Are they “making a joyful noise unto the lord”? But they are not angry. Oh no, never! It is just anyone who disagrees with them and the theocracy that is tagged with being angry.
Sorry walker, I dont think the trashing of my civil rights is funny. I dont think what bush is doing to this country is funny. And I damn sure dont think what is happening in ks is funny.
If you think this is an angry post, think again. I agree with uraliah, passion doesnt always equate to anger. Unless you are a liberal of course.
I do spend increasing amounts of time on dave’s blog, and on other national blogs, where they REALLY think life is funny. I intend to spend less time here, where the rape of civil liberties is a lighthearted laughing matter.
Good posts PL and flike. Just more jocularity from the right.
I think it is called the “bloody chicken” theory flike. That bright red dot of hate is just like raising chicks. If one gets a speck of blood on it, the other chicks just pick it to death. Gays just happen to be the bloody chicken right now. I cant wait to see who is next when we are gone, and see if that next group can stand up to the hate. They will surely be called angry too.
kfg,I, like yourself, plan on spending less time here, but for a different reason. I get a little tired of reading the same arguments written by the same people with the same bitter taste. PL, CF, Flike, yourself, XXX, all write excellent posts, whether I agree with them or not, but once a book is read, why read it again?
I don’t for one minute think that what this administration is doing is a laughing matter, but I also know that what I intend to do about it is use my power to vote to attempt to correct it. I don’t need, nor do I want to read the same people saying the same thing day in and day out. This open blog proves my point.
If I wanted to be a dour old man, I would sit here and bitch and moan about every neo-con moron who wants to foist his or her religious lunacy on me, about every Liberal idiot who thinks the government should do my thinking for me, and every administration figure who can’t think for himself.
I choose instead to go play golf, call a friend, see a movie, and look at a forest. I just stop by once a awhile here to throw my two-cents . . . and a few rocks.
I do feel for you and the morally corrupt bigots who feel they should have the right to eliminate all who violate their beliefs, and I would be the first to stand beside you, but I also know I can’t be the savior of the world. I just do the best I can with what I got, and laughing is a lot more fun than crying.
You know walker, I was thinking this very same thing last week already.
“I get a little tired of reading the same arguments written by the same people with the same bitter taste.”
Not to mention it is always about the same old subjects. Or it turns out downthread to be the same old subjects. It always ends up being god, guns, gays, abortion and koolaide. Hell, I think there may only be 6 real posters here, and the rest are screen names made up to make it look like there are more people who agree with a particular stance.
It is like a dance that has been danced a thousand times. “Hank says this to me…2,3,4 and I say this to Hank…2,3,4. Nathan says this to pl…2,3,4…and pl says this to nathan…2,3,4. Just representative examples. You could subsitute the names of any of the usual suspects.
You are right walker. I am more bored than angry. I am tired of refuting the same old lies over and over again. :)
Just to lighten things up a bit – any predictions for tonight’s WSU game?
You know walker, I was thinking this very same thing last week already.
“I don’t need, nor do I want to read the same people saying the same thing day in and day out.”
I couldnt agree more. Not to mention it is always about the same old subjects. Or it turns out downthread to be the same old subjects. It always ends up being god, guns, gays, abortion and political koolaide.
It is like a dance that has been danced a thousand times. “Hank says this to me…2,3,4 and I say this to Hank…2,3,4. Heck says this to PL…2,3,4…and PL says this to heck…2,3,4. Just examples. You could substitute the names of any of the usual suspects.
You are right walker. I am more bored than angry. I am tired of refuting the same old lies over and over again. It is like draining the sea by dipping out of the ocean with a teaspoon:)
Or maybe it is more like this: “never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and it only annoys the pig.”
oops, sorry for the double post!
Ok, it’s an open thread. I ran across something entertaining this morning. Old subject, but….
“Secret Service agents guarding Vice President Dick Cheney when he shot Texas lawyer Harry Whittington on a hunting outing two weeks ago say Cheney was “clearly inebriated” at the time of the shooting.
Agents observed several members of the hunting party, including the Vice President, consuming alcohol before and during the hunting expedition, the report notes, and Cheney exhibited “visible signs” of impairment, including slurred speech and erratic actions.”
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_8184.shtml
“Or maybe it is more like this: “never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and it only annoys the pig.”"
kfg, we couldn’t agree more. Besides, who the hell wants to hear a pig sing anyway? LOL
Dang, this open thread was agreat idea!
Quote of the Day
‘a state may be called bad if, in spite of the existence of a high cultural level, it dooms to destruction the bearers of that culture by breaking up their racial uniformity.’Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf
XXX, that’s a hell of a story if true. If false, then it’s close to a new low.
I’d put this story on the same level as “Cleland is no war hero,” “McCain was so unhinged by being a POW that’s unfit for the presidency,” and “the Clintons murdered Vince Foster.”
One way or another, somebody’s lying. These kinds of stories are the kind that should never see the light of day if they’re wrong, imo.
I’d like to see the MSM pick this up. Somebody needs to hang, one way or another.
“I don’t need, nor do I want to read the same people saying the same thing day in and day out.”
THEN WHY DO YOU STILL POST HERE???
Let’s talk about Natalie Holloway!!!
To lighten things up a bit, enjoy! lol
http://www.bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/cheneyvid.asp
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
Damn XXX. Just when I was starting to like Cheney you go and post that he was drunk when he shot the lawyer. In light of his mistake I must revoke any credit I had given him. It wasn’t much credit, after all it was only one lawyer, but it was more than he deserved for anything else he has done. And at least it was a start.
The Wall
The Israelis have built 400 miles of wall with US Taxpayer money. That money would have fixed the levy in New Orleans.
http://www.vtjp.org/background/Separation_Wall_Report.htm
k,You applaud the the fact that a human being gets shot just because he is a lawyer? Aha! You are a lawyeraphobe!LOL!
Some people here are heterophobes!Pay no mind to them either!
Great idea, Mr. Brownlee. This gets all the nuts distracted from contributing to the more interesting blogs.
Nah CX, I just think there are too many lawyers around. We need to cull the herd.
Clever, Sean.
You mean like you?
Let’s talk about hockey. Who’s your favorite goalie?
mine: Eddie “the eagle” Belfour
Back to the quiresI am a live and let live person. My only objection is them being in the education system. Children tend to look up to their teachers and in many cases emulate them. And I din’t think we need a society full of quires.
What is the financial status or the operational status of: Exploration Place, Ice Rink, etc.,etc.. Now that our elected officials have bailed them out of their difficulties?
This was once a hot topic but, haven’t heard lately, if significant improvements have been forthcoming.
north,What are “quires”?
CXSorry queers. Do you know what that is?I guess the modern word is gay. Now do you know what I am talking about?
Ian, you seem to be hung up on numbers with the whole Holocaust thing. The fact is, whether six Jews or six million were slaughtered, their deaths were still senseless and cruel.By the way, why did you put my name is “quotes”?
Well, this is a belated cry for help, one I should have made a few days ago but, feh, didn’t.
I am going to be in the D.C. area through Wednesday, leaving Monday morning. I’ll be staying in Georgetown and working Monday and Tuesday until (probably) 5:30pm or so local time.
Anybody here travel to D.C. much? Any ideas for night life (Monday or Tuesday)? My likes are world-class beers, maybe some kind of cultural stuff like plays (of the decidedly non-musical variety), and good conversation. I also like art and I can understand some literature if there aren’t a lot of big words or foreign words. Big foreign words, heck I’m swimmin’ in the deep end. Even some pomes! Food, I don’t care, the hotel probably has that covered nine ways from Sunday.
Anyway, if anybody has ideas or knows of a great brew pub in the Georgetown area (I’d love to find a place that serves some great Belgian beers like St. Bernardus, Westvletern, or any other beers that you can’t get in Wichita but are often served on tap in larger cities – sigh).
Help! Anybody?
You’re right, flike. That’s why I just put it up without comment. Usually when something sounds too good to be true, it is. I remember the one about Bush being tanked up on anti-depressants before the 2004 elections….
I ran across it…just thought I’d share.
Check out The Wall while you’re in DC. It’s something every American should experience.
I have heard an awful lot about The Wall, XXX, I think that’s a great idea. Thanks.
One of my favorite novels is “In Country” by Bobbie Ann Mason; a trip to The Wall is the heart of the story.
I also remember that the choice of artist, Maya Ying Lin, was extremely controversial, but many Americans, especially Vietnam vets, think the artist did a spectacular job.
It’s also open until quarter till midnight, so that will work I hope.
Thanks again.
Ian,
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/index.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005143
read well my revisionist friend!
north,
then from what you write above, you are advocating that homosexuals should be banned from teaching and holiding positions on the Board of Education?
In 1933, the Jewish population of Europe was about 9.5 million. This number represented more than 60 percent of the world’s Jewish population at that time, estimated at 15.3 million.
The majority of Jews in prewar Europe resided in eastern Europe. The largest Jewish communities in this area were in Poland, with about 3,000,000 Jews; the European part of the Soviet Union, with 2,525,000; Romania, with 980,000; and the three Baltic states, with a combined Jewish population of about 255,000 (95,000 in Latvia, 155,000 in Lithuania, and 5,000 in Estonia).
Ref:http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/index.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005143
Ernst Zundel was nothing but a holocoast denier and a neo-Nazi propagandist!
Ref:http://www.adl.org/learn/Ext_US/zundel.asp?xpicked=2&item=zundel
Come on! Let’s get a good debate going!
I cannot from personal experience tell you of the holocaust. It was before I was born.
My Uncle, however, was a young man among the first troops liberating concentration camps. My family tells me that he was never the same after the experience. He was never able to talk about it before his death, not even with his only brother- my father- who fought in the Pacific theater.
I have personally met and talked with three survivors of the Holocaust. Two were Jews. Both were the only survivors of their entire family.
The third person was a Pole and a Catholic, who was put in the camps as a teenager. He too lost his entire family.
I will not detail the experiences they shared, but they left no doubt about the nature of the holocaust. Thank god for the efforts to videotape the stories of surviviors in their own words. This is the truth that the revisonists and deniers will not be able to erase.
Dear XXX,
I really do believe the Cheney story is bunk. I have a buddy that got out of the Navy in ‘72, trained for the FBI after college and eventually went to work for the treasury and retired after a tour as a secret service agent. We know things about each other that the statute of limitations hasn’t run out on.
Iknow nothing about his job in the secret service. I know he did guard family of one of the presidential candidates in ‘88, but he won’t even tell me which ones. In short, any rumor that sources the secret service in my opinion pure BS. Now, Cheny may have been drunk, but I doubt it. Also, he doesn’t have a ‘long history’ of alcohol abuse like the link says. Only a few minor indiscretions in his youth.
Hank
I agree, Hank, that’s my understanding as well.
If this story is true, then Cheney should be fired forthwith and President Bush impeached and convicted.
If this story is false, then Capitol Hill Blue should be sued and found liable for amounts exceeding the company’s net worth. Both the reporter and the editor should never find jobs in American journalism again, imo.
As an example to other news outlets, gutting CHB should stand as a stark and clear example of the “wages” of irresponsible journalism, imo.
$0.02
Hey flike,
Have you ever been in Goebl’s liquer store on West street? Rob Miller owns it and he has over a hundred brands of beer on sale.
As far a DC goes, It’s been over forty years since I was stationed there, my trips back recently have been all business, no drinking.
Hank
Brandon, thanks for your post. People like Ian the Nazi bigot want the world to forget the horrors of what happened during the Holocaust. Unfortunately for him, the world will NEVER FORGET. Hatred breeds cruelty and more hatred. Thank God for those who are preserving the accounts of those who survived these horrible acts. The world remembers…. and we know the truth.
Hank,I figure it’s a BS story too. If there was any truth to it, the MSM would be all over it, wouldn’t they? But you gotta love a good conspiricy theory. Just another demonstration that you can’t believe everything you read (especially on the net). I figure if someone in the SS let out a story like that, they and any trace of their existence would be gone.
The point was to ask for a blog. I asked for a blog that would expose Republicans, demand why they are what they are. I wanted to understand Republican voters, and as I said, I don’t think Republican voters are evil. Most of them are simply stupid and just deluded to vote wrongly. But Real Republicans are evil.
But in the thread of this post I see liberals cozying up to Republicans. This is unfathomable to me. Without better understanding anyone who votes Republican and there reasons for doing so, I must treat any and all Republicans as enemies.
Ooh ooh! Let’s talk about how polarized Kansas WE bloggers are and do a comparative study with other blogs!
Cheney being drunk is the only logical reason I can think of to turn away the Sheriff dept for 15 hours.
What are some logical reasons other bloggers have to explain the 15 hour delay?
JR–
A really good article on why people vote Republican ran in the Feb. issue of “Harper’s.”
It was entitled “The Crap Shoot.” Basically, the author argued that Republicans are the ultimate “players.” They succeeded in the perception that they are the people who have the power and the knowledge, the insider connections, the string-pullers, the back-scratching cronies.
If you want to be a “player,” you have to join the club. Granted, 99.99 percent of Republicans are just ignorant schlubs that are getting used, but the same thing that motivates someone to buy a lottery ticket or throw dice motivates them to be “republican.”
They all think they could be Dick Cheney too some day.
Excerpt from “Crap Shoot: Everyone loses when politics is a game,” Garret Keizer, Harper’s, February 2006
We will get our best defining antonym by reducing the word to its root: “play.” Ask any kid, “What’s the opposite of play?” and you will have the word you seek: “work.” The opposite of the player is the worker. So said John Ruskin, who saw humanity divided into “two races, one of workers, and the other of players: one tilling the ground, manufacturing, building, and otherwise providing for the necessities of life; the other part proudly idle, and continually therefore needing recreation, in which they use the productive and laborious orders partly as their cattle, and partly as their puppets or pieces in the game of death.”
Sum1, one explanation for the 15 hour delay that I saw (may have been Michelle Malkin’s, I don’t remember) was that the VP was so upset that he took a drink. This was *after* the shooting, of course.
Theory being that the VP asked for and got a courtesy delay because he didn’t want the sheriff’s office to think he’d been drinking *before* the shooting.
You know, this reminds me of a conversation I had, back in the day, with a Kansan who insisted he carries a bottle in his pickup always for just this reason: a quick and public swallow *after* being pulled over for DUI will act as a hedge against a DUI arrest (in effect, he’s willing to settle for an open container charge if it eliminates the possibility of a DUI charge; the DUI is eliminated because the arresting officer must testify that he saw the suspect take a drink of unknown quantity, and thus add to his blood-alcohol level, *after* he had been driving).
Sum1, an explanation for the delay?
Hubris.
CruX,
You have to come up with some unbiased sources because the holohoax museum and the anti-Christ adl are simply not credible!
“The principal obstacle to the propagation of revisionism is, simply, fear. At present, the entrenched legend is protected by a system of legal and extra-legal prohibitions (“taboos”). Nobody could dispute the truth of that statement in Europe, where laws in most countries specifically proscribe the expression of revisionist ideas as criminal offenses. For me, the most painful instance of that intellectual terror is the incarceration of my chemist friend Germar Rudolf, presently being held in solitary confinement in a maximum security prison near Stuttgart.
His heinous crime? As a chemistry graduate student he did a forensic analysis of the walls of the alleged gas chambers, didn’t find the cyanide residues that ought to have been there and concluded they weren’t gas chambers. The lack of such forensic evidence is well known in the field. For example, in the Wall Street Journal of July 7, 2004, Timothy Ryback wrote that “there is little forensic evidence proving homicidal intent” in the ruins of Auschwitz.
For Germar that was a 14 month rap in 1994, and he bolted rather than serve it. Last November he was finally deported back to Germany by the US government, despite his application for political asylum and his marriage to an American woman. For his subsequent writings the Germans are now charging Germar with a new 5-year rap, enacted into law after his original “crime.”
This is not a strictly European reign of terror. The U.S. is definitely complicit. How many Americans know that our foremost execution technologist declared the alleged gassings not possible at the alleged sites? That was Fred Leuchter, who actually preceded Germar in the cyanide residue investigations. Leuchter was considered foremost in the execution field until 1990, when his views were widely publicized, and his business ruined by the refusal of authorities to work with him. I doubt he has any work in the field now. Illinois barred the politically unclean Leuchter from servicing the lethal injection machine he had designed and built. During the execution of John Wayne Gacy, there was a hitch attributed to incompetent operation of Leuchter’s machine…..”
http://www.dailynorthwestern.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/02/14/43f1778c0f7e0
http://vho.org/dl/ENG.html
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Thoughts_Archive/thoughts.htm
http://www.cwporter.com/articles.htm
http://ihr.org/
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archivesindex.html
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Ok, here’s a change of pace.My internet is through Earthlink. They used to have a pretty good spam filter, but it seems like a lot is getting through, and it’s BAD stuff. I just got one wanting me to sign in with my bank account number and social security number. I can’t believe people are stupid enough to fall for stuff like that.I’d like to see a surcharge for e-mail, say a penny or so. That would virtually eliminate spam.
In order to pay the surcharge you’d have to cough-up every number you’ve got, and it wouldn’t stay a penny for long.
You have to come up with some unbiased sources because the holohoax museum and the anti-Christ adl are simply not credible!
HA HA HA! HA HA HA!
Right Ian, and the Zundelsite from which you got your statistics can be classified as an “unbiased” source huh?
As world watches Guantanamo, U.S. quietly expands Afghan prisonBy Tim Golden and Eric SchmittNEW YORK TIMES02/26/2006
NEW YORK
“While an international debate rages over the future of the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, the armed forces have quietly expanded another, less-visible prison in Afghanistan, where it now holds some 500 terrorism suspects in more primitive conditions, indefinitely and without charges.
Pentagon officials have often described the detention site at Bagram, a cavernous former machine shop on an American air base 40 miles north of Kabul, as a screening center. They said most of the detainees were Afghans who might eventually be released under an amnesty program or transferred to an Afghan prison that is to be built with U.S. aid.
But some of the detainees have already been at Bagram for as long as two or three years. And unlike those at Guantanamo, they have no access to lawyers, no right to hear the allegations against them and only rudimentary reviews of their status as “enemy combatants,” military officials said.”
Bush is wrecking the United States and the principles on which it was founded.
For the United States to insist other countries pass laws in violation of free speech at the threat of having US Foreign Aid withheld is hardly the act of a country trying to spread democracy.
The puppeteers controlling Bush have their dictatorial powers and the fact that they’re not going to give them up without a fight is all but certain.
It’s up to congress to cut-off funding for the Iraqi debacle and other off-shoot projects.
Hey, here’s oneThose people that want to carry guns “FOR PROTECTION”.What a bunch of BS.It doesn’t make any difference to me one way or the other. I have been on this earth 78 years and havent carried a gun yet, even when I am traveling. If one tends to associate themselves with that type people, they might be in danger, gun or no gun.Be realistic and trouthfull, it just makes you feel mocho.
Macho macho maaaann!I want to be, a macho man!Macho macho maaaann!I WANT TO BE A MACHO MAN!
Who knew the Village People made a song about gun nuts?
Were your VP heroes talking about “gun nuts” or people who like to start fights?
You “gun sissies” will try anything to shore-up a rickety point.
CrXYour a little off key but I get the message.