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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27613</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todd &amp; rr,You&#039;re the ones with the disconnect. Answer the question!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd &amp; rr,You&#8217;re the ones with the disconnect. Answer the question!</p>
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		<title>By: rrichardsen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27612</link>
		<dc:creator>rrichardsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samantha - Was this your attempt to inject your own socialists values?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha &#8211; Was this your attempt to inject your own socialists values?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27611</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samantha - There is a serious logical disconnect in your post.

And that&#039;s not even going into your tying this event to the White House.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha &#8211; There is a serious logical disconnect in your post.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s not even going into your tying this event to the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27610</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 15:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these refusals are really about morality and piousness, shouldn&#039;t pharmacists also be doing a background check on men who seek Viagra scripts to make sure they&#039;re only having sex with their wives? Therin lies the hypocrisy: at the behest of their brainwashers, &quot;God&#039;s prescription fillers&quot; have singled out one drug on which to draw a line in the sand. It&#039;s another sickening display of the faux religious fervor that&#039;s taken this country since the All-hat-no- cattle cowboy stole his way into the White House.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these refusals are really about morality and piousness, shouldn&#8217;t pharmacists also be doing a background check on men who seek Viagra scripts to make sure they&#8217;re only having sex with their wives? Therin lies the hypocrisy: at the behest of their brainwashers, &#8220;God&#8217;s prescription fillers&#8221; have singled out one drug on which to draw a line in the sand. It&#8217;s another sickening display of the faux religious fervor that&#8217;s taken this country since the All-hat-no- cattle cowboy stole his way into the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: rrichardsen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27609</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say the start of this blog was expected since Rhonda Holman is a flag waving member of NOW and staunch supporter of Planned Parenthood.

Walgreens or any pharmacy or pharmacists has the right to refuse any customer as with any other business has the same right.  PP and NOW only believe in choice when it suits their purposes and always villify those that disagree with them just as a government in central Europe did seventy years ago.  PP and NOW only want to continue the mass killings they so proudly tout as &quot;a choice&quot;.  Well their choices have killed more humans than all the combined socialists governments, i.e. Nazis and Communists and Islamists, have.  What should be protested and aborted is NOW and PP!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say the start of this blog was expected since Rhonda Holman is a flag waving member of NOW and staunch supporter of Planned Parenthood.</p>
<p>Walgreens or any pharmacy or pharmacists has the right to refuse any customer as with any other business has the same right.  PP and NOW only believe in choice when it suits their purposes and always villify those that disagree with them just as a government in central Europe did seventy years ago.  PP and NOW only want to continue the mass killings they so proudly tout as &#8220;a choice&#8221;.  Well their choices have killed more humans than all the combined socialists governments, i.e. Nazis and Communists and Islamists, have.  What should be protested and aborted is NOW and PP!</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27608</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 19:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam-Doctors,who believe in no abortion or no birth control, no matter what and no referring, should not go into gyn or family practice.  They may not have to perform abortion, but they are obligated to release the woman&#039;s records even if they are going to the abortion doctor.  There are conditions incompatable with pregnancy and there are women who need birth control for hormonal balance.  It isn&#039;t like saying, a person who doesn&#039;t believe in birth control can&#039;t work in a drug store at all; they just can&#039;t be responsible for dispensing it.Choosing biased examples to make your point works both ways.  What about banks that won&#039;t offer loans to blacks because they are black?  That isn&#039;t ok, right?Tolerance is a statemen on beliefs.  I tolerate your right to have a divergent view of Christianity.  Tolerance does not condone all religious, or supposedly religious, actions.  It isn&#039;t what you believe; it is how your beliefs are affecting women who need to fill their perscriptions.  Hidding actions behind tolerance of divergent opinions is inappropriate.  The KKK can hate whomever they want; they just can&#039;t burn a cross in my yard about it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam-Doctors,who believe in no abortion or no birth control, no matter what and no referring, should not go into gyn or family practice.  They may not have to perform abortion, but they are obligated to release the woman&#8217;s records even if they are going to the abortion doctor.  There are conditions incompatable with pregnancy and there are women who need birth control for hormonal balance.  It isn&#8217;t like saying, a person who doesn&#8217;t believe in birth control can&#8217;t work in a drug store at all; they just can&#8217;t be responsible for dispensing it.Choosing biased examples to make your point works both ways.  What about banks that won&#8217;t offer loans to blacks because they are black?  That isn&#8217;t ok, right?Tolerance is a statemen on beliefs.  I tolerate your right to have a divergent view of Christianity.  Tolerance does not condone all religious, or supposedly religious, actions.  It isn&#8217;t what you believe; it is how your beliefs are affecting women who need to fill their perscriptions.  Hidding actions behind tolerance of divergent opinions is inappropriate.  The KKK can hate whomever they want; they just can&#8217;t burn a cross in my yard about it.</p>
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		<title>By: kansassam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27607</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 11:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR...

In an extreme case, possibly, but not likely. I know alot of Christians that have no problem with dispensing whatever because it is their job. But.. most people do not understand that if a person DOES believe it is wrong, then to do it is a sin, which is in effect denying Christ.  A Christian cannot be a Christian at church and something else at work. So, are you saying that Christians can&#039;t be Pharmacists? How about Christians can&#039;t be Doctors because they won&#039;t perform abortions? The can&#039;t be bankers because they might not lend money to a porn shop? Where does it end? Where is the &quot;tolerance&quot; that non-Christians constantly stand on and use against Christians every day?What I think should happen is if someone requests a prescription that the pharmacist will not fill, it is his/her responsibility to quietly pass it on to someone who will. If there is noone in that pharmacy that will fill it, that fact should be publicly posted in advance and there should be a reference to a pharmacy that will fill it.
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<p>In an extreme case, possibly, but not likely. I know alot of Christians that have no problem with dispensing whatever because it is their job. But.. most people do not understand that if a person DOES believe it is wrong, then to do it is a sin, which is in effect denying Christ.  A Christian cannot be a Christian at church and something else at work. So, are you saying that Christians can&#8217;t be Pharmacists? How about Christians can&#8217;t be Doctors because they won&#8217;t perform abortions? The can&#8217;t be bankers because they might not lend money to a porn shop? Where does it end? Where is the &#8220;tolerance&#8221; that non-Christians constantly stand on and use against Christians every day?What I think should happen is if someone requests a prescription that the pharmacist will not fill, it is his/her responsibility to quietly pass it on to someone who will. If there is noone in that pharmacy that will fill it, that fact should be publicly posted in advance and there should be a reference to a pharmacy that will fill it.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27606</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From an article in the Washington Post (Mar 28,2005) &quot;No one knows exactly how often that is happening, but cases have been reported across the country, including in California, Washington, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Texas, New Hampshire, Ohio and North Carolina. Advocates on both sides say the refusals appear to be spreading, often surfacing only in the rare instances when women file complaints. &quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From an article in the Washington Post (Mar 28,2005) &#8220;No one knows exactly how often that is happening, but cases have been reported across the country, including in California, Washington, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Texas, New Hampshire, Ohio and North Carolina. Advocates on both sides say the refusals appear to be spreading, often surfacing only in the rare instances when women file complaints. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27605</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 04:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect your arguements Kssam and yours in particular Damoon. I also wholeheartedly disagree.

Think on the path that you are suggesting. It could beatruly bad &quot;slippery slope&quot;

Now Jed gave us a good example uthread. I&#039;ll give you some more.

Now I don&#039;t  think it unreasonable to suggest that the religious right has a great deal of power in vast areas of America. It is not unreasonable to speculate that they might use that, and their general control of commerce to enforce their own ideology on others. We might imagine a concerted effort to gain control at the pharmaceutical and management levels. A woman needing Emergency Contraception might eventually have to search very far and very wide and thus be unable to secure the script while she can still safely and successfully use it.

But that is just the beginning. It is a great thing that we have religious freedom......or freedom from religion. But &quot;defense of the right to individual religious conviction&quot; could mushroom into a tremendous problem since indivdual religious conviction is a very subjective thing.

What if I was an atheist pharmacist and a KNOWN evangelist came to me for a script? MIght I be justified in refusing to fill that script and telling the person seeking it &quot;My religion is science. But you trust God over science. Go and seek your Lord to heal you. I will be intersted to see the results and if your faith prevails in the absence of my interference&quot;?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect your arguements Kssam and yours in particular Damoon. I also wholeheartedly disagree.</p>
<p>Think on the path that you are suggesting. It could beatruly bad &#8220;slippery slope&#8221;</p>
<p>Now Jed gave us a good example uthread. I&#8217;ll give you some more.</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t  think it unreasonable to suggest that the religious right has a great deal of power in vast areas of America. It is not unreasonable to speculate that they might use that, and their general control of commerce to enforce their own ideology on others. We might imagine a concerted effort to gain control at the pharmaceutical and management levels. A woman needing Emergency Contraception might eventually have to search very far and very wide and thus be unable to secure the script while she can still safely and successfully use it.</p>
<p>But that is just the beginning. It is a great thing that we have religious freedom&#8230;&#8230;or freedom from religion. But &#8220;defense of the right to individual religious conviction&#8221; could mushroom into a tremendous problem since indivdual religious conviction is a very subjective thing.</p>
<p>What if I was an atheist pharmacist and a KNOWN evangelist came to me for a script? MIght I be justified in refusing to fill that script and telling the person seeking it &#8220;My religion is science. But you trust God over science. Go and seek your Lord to heal you. I will be intersted to see the results and if your faith prevails in the absence of my interference&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27604</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they&#039;re in good standing with the church. Kerry and Ted Kennedy are &quot;ala cart&quot; Caholics, like most Catholics in the US.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re in good standing with the church. Kerry and Ted Kennedy are &#8220;ala cart&#8221; Caholics, like most Catholics in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Santiago</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27603</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry and fat Teddy amongst others supprt abortion but they have not been excommunicated.

Viva La Raza Blanco!!
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<p>Viva La Raza Blanco!!</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27602</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 02:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Catholic church takes the approach you describe. If any Catholic participates in ANY way to assist a woman in getting an abortion, then it&#039;s automatic excommunication from the church. That&#039;s church law. I doubt that most Catholics in the US follow church doctrine to the letter. Most Catholics I know use birth control and limit the size of their families. If a pharmacist is a devout Catholic, then he would be forbidden to assist a woman with the script in any way. That&#039;s Catholic law.I respect a person&#039;s right to live their values, but someone in that situation has a responsibility to find employment that won&#039;t threaten their values.On the other hand, I get tired of all the extreme examples. ECPs are readily available to those who will use them. It would be my guess that MOST pharmacies will stock them. If a woman lives in a small town with one pharmacy who refuses to stock the drug, then she may have to take a road trip to get her script filled. I know life can be inconveinent, but people shouldn&#039;t have to compromise their religious beliefs in order to make life easier for others.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Catholic church takes the approach you describe. If any Catholic participates in ANY way to assist a woman in getting an abortion, then it&#8217;s automatic excommunication from the church. That&#8217;s church law. I doubt that most Catholics in the US follow church doctrine to the letter. Most Catholics I know use birth control and limit the size of their families. If a pharmacist is a devout Catholic, then he would be forbidden to assist a woman with the script in any way. That&#8217;s Catholic law.I respect a person&#8217;s right to live their values, but someone in that situation has a responsibility to find employment that won&#8217;t threaten their values.On the other hand, I get tired of all the extreme examples. ECPs are readily available to those who will use them. It would be my guess that MOST pharmacies will stock them. If a woman lives in a small town with one pharmacy who refuses to stock the drug, then she may have to take a road trip to get her script filled. I know life can be inconveinent, but people shouldn&#8217;t have to compromise their religious beliefs in order to make life easier for others.</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27601</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me an example.
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27600</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2006 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, This isn&#039;t a freedom of religious expression issue, even in the penumbra of the 1st amendment.  Moreover, there is a legal distinction between religious belief and religious practice.  The right to religious believe is absolute, but the rights to religious practice and expression are not absolute.  You have the right to any religious belief, but your actions are not likewise protected.  If it interferes in your ability to preform your job to fill legal prescriptions, work it out so the woman can get her script without being hassled.  Stores should address the issue before it happens; if a system that includes a manager or second pharmacist (yeah, they&#039;ll love that one) providing the prescription is worked out, fine.  And, I think the pharmacist can be fired if an appropriate system cannot be found or the are regularly being difficult or lecturing young women, without calling it religious discrimination.  They are just being bad employees.  But, there are Christian pharmacist (I think it was in Georgia) who refused to transfer to another pharmacist or pharmacy.  They felt that ANY envolvement that produced the woman getting her script made them culpable.  That is incompatable with the job, no matter what faith reasons support it.  Those people are also less likely to be forthright in admitting that the will not fill the script, because they see it as a plus if they can keep a woman from getting her pills.

Damoon- Because it happens, and not just a couple times or only in Kansas, it matters.  Your analogy of something you haven&#039;t seen in pointless.  It would be nice for everyone to take your approach and not put themselves in a position to have to do it. Some fanatics go into places where they can have a &quot;positive&quot; influence by keeping such things from happening.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, This isn&#8217;t a freedom of religious expression issue, even in the penumbra of the 1st amendment.  Moreover, there is a legal distinction between religious belief and religious practice.  The right to religious believe is absolute, but the rights to religious practice and expression are not absolute.  You have the right to any religious belief, but your actions are not likewise protected.  If it interferes in your ability to preform your job to fill legal prescriptions, work it out so the woman can get her script without being hassled.  Stores should address the issue before it happens; if a system that includes a manager or second pharmacist (yeah, they&#8217;ll love that one) providing the prescription is worked out, fine.  And, I think the pharmacist can be fired if an appropriate system cannot be found or the are regularly being difficult or lecturing young women, without calling it religious discrimination.  They are just being bad employees.  But, there are Christian pharmacist (I think it was in Georgia) who refused to transfer to another pharmacist or pharmacy.  They felt that ANY envolvement that produced the woman getting her script made them culpable.  That is incompatable with the job, no matter what faith reasons support it.  Those people are also less likely to be forthright in admitting that the will not fill the script, because they see it as a plus if they can keep a woman from getting her pills.</p>
<p>Damoon- Because it happens, and not just a couple times or only in Kansas, it matters.  Your analogy of something you haven&#8217;t seen in pointless.  It would be nice for everyone to take your approach and not put themselves in a position to have to do it. Some fanatics go into places where they can have a &#8220;positive&#8221; influence by keeping such things from happening.</p>
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		<title>By: kansassam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27599</link>
		<dc:creator>kansassam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AlliePoint is... the pharmacists religious beliefs are Constitutionally protected. Your right to getting a prescription filled is not.

If you force him to compromise his beliefs then you are forcing YOUR morality on HIM. In a court of law, you lose!

Just ask for a manager or change pharmacies. Simple enough....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AlliePoint is&#8230; the pharmacists religious beliefs are Constitutionally protected. Your right to getting a prescription filled is not.</p>
<p>If you force him to compromise his beliefs then you are forcing YOUR morality on HIM. In a court of law, you lose!</p>
<p>Just ask for a manager or change pharmacies. Simple enough&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27598</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a stretch!! I&#039;ve yet to see a Buddist pharmacist with the only drug store in town who refuses to fill a script for antibiotics. This is a non issue. Anyone can get a script filled, maybe not at every pharmacy, but it can be done. If a drug is legal, it&#039;s available.Some see ECPs as &quot;mini&quot; abortions, and if ECPs prevent the fertilized egg from implanting in the uterine wall, then they have a valid argument. A person with those beliefs probably shouldn&#039;t be working in a pharmacy that sells them. I would never work in Tiller&#039;s clinic or for a doctor that performs abortions. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s imposing my values on anyone. There are plenty of doctors who feel the same way I do, and if I ever decide to work in an office, I&#039;ll work for one of them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a stretch!! I&#8217;ve yet to see a Buddist pharmacist with the only drug store in town who refuses to fill a script for antibiotics. This is a non issue. Anyone can get a script filled, maybe not at every pharmacy, but it can be done. If a drug is legal, it&#8217;s available.Some see ECPs as &#8220;mini&#8221; abortions, and if ECPs prevent the fertilized egg from implanting in the uterine wall, then they have a valid argument. A person with those beliefs probably shouldn&#8217;t be working in a pharmacy that sells them. I would never work in Tiller&#8217;s clinic or for a doctor that performs abortions. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s imposing my values on anyone. There are plenty of doctors who feel the same way I do, and if I ever decide to work in an office, I&#8217;ll work for one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27597</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 23:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kansassam,Your second post makes no sense.  I think it is a pharmacist&#039;s job description that pharmacist are required to fill perscriptions.  I simply don&#039;t agree with the idea that your right to inflict your morality on me somehow supercedes my right to have a legal prescription filled.  Your rights aren&#039;t the only ones at stake.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kansassam,Your second post makes no sense.  I think it is a pharmacist&#8217;s job description that pharmacist are required to fill perscriptions.  I simply don&#8217;t agree with the idea that your right to inflict your morality on me somehow supercedes my right to have a legal prescription filled.  Your rights aren&#8217;t the only ones at stake.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27596</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 19:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Da,There is a moral and religious question about ECP&#039;s only because a particular religion takes a stand about them. Other than that, they are simply chemicals.If the only pharmacist in your area happened to be a devout Buddhist who felt that antibiotics were a destroyer of lifeforms on the path to Nirvana, and you had a severe infection, you might feel differently! You may follow whatever moral beliefs you want, but when you impose them on those whose beliefs differ from yours, they are no longer moral!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Da,There is a moral and religious question about ECP&#8217;s only because a particular religion takes a stand about them. Other than that, they are simply chemicals.If the only pharmacist in your area happened to be a devout Buddhist who felt that antibiotics were a destroyer of lifeforms on the path to Nirvana, and you had a severe infection, you might feel differently! You may follow whatever moral beliefs you want, but when you impose them on those whose beliefs differ from yours, they are no longer moral!</p>
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		<title>By: kansassam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27595</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 14:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allie...READ MY POST.....And then go get a manager....If my company doesn&#039;t require it.. you can&#039;t make me do it. If my company would require it, then I would have to go to another company.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allie&#8230;READ MY POST&#8230;..And then go get a manager&#8230;.If my company doesn&#8217;t require it.. you can&#8217;t make me do it. If my company would require it, then I would have to go to another company.</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27594</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kansassam,I have a right to have my legal prescription filled, if the drug is stocked in that pharmacy.  That is, in fact, what pharmacies are intended to do, not provide the sanctimoneous with jobs.  So, your rights stop where mine begin, too.  Get someone else to fill it, work at a pharm that doesn&#039;t fill it, or become a minister, I don&#039;t care.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kansassam,I have a right to have my legal prescription filled, if the drug is stocked in that pharmacy.  That is, in fact, what pharmacies are intended to do, not provide the sanctimoneous with jobs.  So, your rights stop where mine begin, too.  Get someone else to fill it, work at a pharm that doesn&#8217;t fill it, or become a minister, I don&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: kansassam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27593</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cannot force people of faith to limit their beliefs to &quot;church&quot; or &quot;only on Sunday&quot;. You must not ask a believer to sin by compromising their faith just because it makes someone else &quot;uncomfortable&quot;. I&#039;m sorry, but once again, your rights end where mine begin, and you would not force me to choose the feelings of man over the laws of God. Last time I checked there was no Constitutional separation of church and marketplace!The only thing that was done incorrectly, was the procedures were not followed.. a manager should have been called. Personally, I would find it difficult to use a pharmacist that would give up his/her integrity just to make a customer happy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot force people of faith to limit their beliefs to &#8220;church&#8221; or &#8220;only on Sunday&#8221;. You must not ask a believer to sin by compromising their faith just because it makes someone else &#8220;uncomfortable&#8221;. I&#8217;m sorry, but once again, your rights end where mine begin, and you would not force me to choose the feelings of man over the laws of God. Last time I checked there was no Constitutional separation of church and marketplace!The only thing that was done incorrectly, was the procedures were not followed.. a manager should have been called. Personally, I would find it difficult to use a pharmacist that would give up his/her integrity just to make a customer happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27592</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jed, just because I&#039;m a nurse, that doessn&#039;t mean I&#039;m required to go along with something that goes against my conscience. I just doen&#039;t put myself in those positions where I would have make the choice to compromise or not compromise my values. That&#039;s MY responsibility. I shouldn&#039;t expect the place where I work to adjust it&#039;s business practices around my personal beliefs.ECPs are not the same as antibiotics, there is a moral and religious question involved here. No one should be required to be a part of something they don&#039;t believe in. BUT, they shouldn&#039;t put themselves in that position in the first place.I think it should be up the the individual pharmacies to decide whether or not to stock the drug. But if someone chooses to work in a place that does, then they need to be OK with dispensing it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jed, just because I&#8217;m a nurse, that doessn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m required to go along with something that goes against my conscience. I just doen&#8217;t put myself in those positions where I would have make the choice to compromise or not compromise my values. That&#8217;s MY responsibility. I shouldn&#8217;t expect the place where I work to adjust it&#8217;s business practices around my personal beliefs.ECPs are not the same as antibiotics, there is a moral and religious question involved here. No one should be required to be a part of something they don&#8217;t believe in. BUT, they shouldn&#8217;t put themselves in that position in the first place.I think it should be up the the individual pharmacies to decide whether or not to stock the drug. But if someone chooses to work in a place that does, then they need to be OK with dispensing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27591</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 16:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the pharmacist denied her prescription because he refuses to stock it in his drug store, then fine. If it&#039;s there sitting on the shelf, then he&#039;s obligated to fill it, or find someone who will. In either case, he should have kept her confidentiality in tact. I think the pharmacist in this case was out of line.A woman shouldn&#039;t have to &quot;shop around&quot;, if the doctor is going to give her a script instead of the drug (at planned parenthood, you can see the doctor AND get the drug), then he should  be obligated to tell her where she can get it filled. I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what will happen after this whole flap. Women shouldn&#039;t have to be put into a position where they&#039;ll feel embarrased. BTW, ECPs are less than %80 effective at preventing pregnancy, and if a woman chooses to use it very often, it becomes even less effective. If I were still at a child bearing age, I wouldn&#039;t bet on those odds.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the pharmacist denied her prescription because he refuses to stock it in his drug store, then fine. If it&#8217;s there sitting on the shelf, then he&#8217;s obligated to fill it, or find someone who will. In either case, he should have kept her confidentiality in tact. I think the pharmacist in this case was out of line.A woman shouldn&#8217;t have to &#8220;shop around&#8221;, if the doctor is going to give her a script instead of the drug (at planned parenthood, you can see the doctor AND get the drug), then he should  be obligated to tell her where she can get it filled. I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s what will happen after this whole flap. Women shouldn&#8217;t have to be put into a position where they&#8217;ll feel embarrased. BTW, ECPs are less than %80 effective at preventing pregnancy, and if a woman chooses to use it very often, it becomes even less effective. If I were still at a child bearing age, I wouldn&#8217;t bet on those odds.</p>
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		<title>By: Sum1</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27590</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 13:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something everyone has gotten away from is that this woman was RAPED.  She was a victim.  Had already gone through a horrible ordeal.  Just walking into the pharmacy to pick up the prescription would have been another ordeal.  When the pharmacist singled her out to refuse her service he made her a victim again.He didn&#039;t follow established procedures.

This discussion isn&#039;t about consnensual sex without protection.

Damoon,Maybe he had a right to deny her perscription, but he had NO right to not notify management.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something everyone has gotten away from is that this woman was RAPED.  She was a victim.  Had already gone through a horrible ordeal.  Just walking into the pharmacy to pick up the prescription would have been another ordeal.  When the pharmacist singled her out to refuse her service he made her a victim again.He didn&#8217;t follow established procedures.</p>
<p>This discussion isn&#8217;t about consnensual sex without protection.</p>
<p>Damoon,Maybe he had a right to deny her perscription, but he had NO right to not notify management.</p>
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		<title>By: J R</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2006/02/legal_prescript/#comment-27589</link>
		<dc:creator>J R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 06:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm how to tackle this one.....

Well, on the one hand, on every job I&#039;ve had, I have been forced to compromise my own beliefs in many and various ways under pain of termination. So a worker rights arguement leads me to support this pharmacist.

On the other hand, the beliefs I was forced to compromise.......while critical to me and even to what I saw as public justiuce or even safety, were not something I could ascribe to &quot;divine assignment&quot;. So that makes me wonder why he sould be any better protected than I was.

Now I could delve further into this, worker rights vs employee accountability and the greater sad regard for the latter as opposed to the former that we currently have........but really why bother?!

If you choose a field that is regulated by government regulations.......such as Pharmacy. Then you must adhere to those regulations. The morning after pill is legal. If you have a problem with this, then you have chosen your field of work poorly. YOu are free to act in what you see as a moral direction to change the laws that govern this. You are not free to place your own particular religious judgements over the laws and regulations that you chose to work under by way of using your position to substitute your &quot;morality&quot; for the law.

We have some pharmacists that are wanna be preachers. This should be THEIR PROBLEM. It should be up to them to find a place in theology or the church. It should not be incumbent on members of society to be victimized or judged to the standards of someone who has chosen the wrong vocation.....or worse, used their vocation to promote their own prejudice.


That is not what this is about.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm how to tackle this one&#8230;..</p>
<p>Well, on the one hand, on every job I&#8217;ve had, I have been forced to compromise my own beliefs in many and various ways under pain of termination. So a worker rights arguement leads me to support this pharmacist.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the beliefs I was forced to compromise&#8230;&#8230;.while critical to me and even to what I saw as public justiuce or even safety, were not something I could ascribe to &#8220;divine assignment&#8221;. So that makes me wonder why he sould be any better protected than I was.</p>
<p>Now I could delve further into this, worker rights vs employee accountability and the greater sad regard for the latter as opposed to the former that we currently have&#8230;&#8230;..but really why bother?!</p>
<p>If you choose a field that is regulated by government regulations&#8230;&#8230;.such as Pharmacy. Then you must adhere to those regulations. The morning after pill is legal. If you have a problem with this, then you have chosen your field of work poorly. YOu are free to act in what you see as a moral direction to change the laws that govern this. You are not free to place your own particular religious judgements over the laws and regulations that you chose to work under by way of using your position to substitute your &#8220;morality&#8221; for the law.</p>
<p>We have some pharmacists that are wanna be preachers. This should be THEIR PROBLEM. It should be up to them to find a place in theology or the church. It should not be incumbent on members of society to be victimized or judged to the standards of someone who has chosen the wrong vocation&#8230;..or worse, used their vocation to promote their own prejudice.</p>
<p>That is not what this is about.</p>
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