Kathleen Parker has a column on today’s Opinion pages using Al Gore’s speech in Saudi Arabia last weekend as an example of free but foolish speech. Gore criticized the United States for “terrible abuses” in detaining about 1,200 Arabs living in the United States immediately after Sept. 11, and for clamping down on Saudi visa applications. “The same free speech that permits dissent — and controversial cartoons — also allows fools to out themselves,” she wrote.
Meanwhile, Glen Reynolds joked on his instapundit.com blog that “only Al Gore could come up with the idea of criticizing Bush for not sucking up to the Saudis enough.”
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1,200 Arabs detained yet the actual Bin Laden family in the US allowed to leave.
Actually Gore was making the speech to the Bin Laden family. They were in the audience.
On another blog post someone accused Al Gore of selling us out to the Saudi’s.
Once I stopped laughing.
Does the poster remember the saudi families being allowed to leave the country in mass exodus while planes were grounded for everyone else?
Do they even know that almost all the people who attacked us were from Saudi?
Does the poster forget that we are holding still more than a thousand “enemy combatants” with no charges ?
We were sold out to the Saudi’s long before Gores speech.
Al Gore is known for rather foolish comments….
anyone remember “I invented the Internet” remark?
Once again he is demonstrating why he can’t be taken seriously.
raptor – yes, I remember the supposed “I invented the internet” hoax. He never said that and you know it. He WAS involved, along with many others in Congress, in funding DARPA and the development of ARPANet some 30+ years ago.
You want to play semantics. Ok, here is the actual…
The interview took place on March 9, 1999 during CNN’s “Late Edition” show. Specifically, what Gore said was “I took the initiative in creating the Internet.”
Time Magazine, September 2000, “Gore told reporters that he and his wife, Tipper, at the time when they were college sweethearts, were the inspiration for the novel “Love Story.” That came as news to the befuddled author, Erich Segal.”
Ok…He doesn’t say foolish things. He just makes things up.
The media loves to take things people say out of context, twist them, and blow them way out of porportion to make people look like fools. Besides, Gore’s “lies” can’t hold a candle to Bush’s spin, rhetoric, and manipulation.
Raptor–
Both those statements are entirely true. The author of “Love Story” said himself that Al and Tipper were the real life models for the fictional characters in his book.
Al Gore did indeed “take the inititive” to fund research and pass laws that directly led to today’s internet. Helping to create the internet is not the same as saying he “invented” it.
BTW, how is the search for WMD’s in Iraq coming along?
Raptor…Al invented hockey too… or was that tonsil hockey?? I think Al was referring to the unedited director’s cut of “Love Story”. You know, the one where Tipper died and Al raised her from the dead? Al and Jesus were grade school chums yaknow!
(Al brings out my satiracle side..LOL!! I hope I made it rediculous enough that noone believes it! )
This is why I had to cancel The Eagle. Readers get Cal “I’m to the Right of Limbaugh” Thomas twice a week with a heavy sprinkling of Kathleen “I’m an Idiot” Parker, Thomas “I’m a Sell-out” Sowell, and a couple of writers from The Weekly Standard thrown in for good measure.
For balance, readers get an occasional Hispanic that no one has ever heard of and David “Middle of the Road” Broder.
I just couldn’t take it anymore.
so gore going to a muslim country and taking potshots at his home country warrants no coverage, but a hunting accident controls a weeks worth of press. amazing country we live in. so much for the objective mainsteram press
The conservatives in this town would have a hemorrage if they were actually exposed to some real liberal columnists–Paul Krugman, Jim Hightower, Alexander Cockburn, Gene Lyons, Jason Leopold, Arianna Huffington, Ted Rall, or Katherine Pollett.
But keep up that “balance:” Eagle–extreme right-wingers like Cal Thomas and Thomas Sowell “balanced” by more moderate right-wingers like Kathleen Parker and Trudy Rubin.
We have made it clear that it is our policy to see Saddam Hussein gone. And if entrusted with the presidency, my resolve will never waver.– Al Gore, during the 2000 Presidential campaign
We know that he [Saddam Hussein] has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.– Al Gore, September 23, 2002
Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.– Al Gore, September 23, 2002
BTW, Scott, what the hell do you call this commentary in the Op Ed of the Eagle.
“No coverage?”
Mother,
1. You got links for those?
2. Did Clinton / Gore INVADE Iraq and occupy it?
No.
Pl
1st don’t cuss it just makes you look low brow and you are smarter than that.
2nd how many days did we have of cheney. this is the first i have seen of this except for it being referenced by o’reilly the other night.
3rd are we not allowed to ask questions without others losing their minds.
4th take a deep breath and calm down was just pointing out what i saw as a poor job being done by the media, who i always hear is right wing leaning.
Proudlib, just in case some people here are strong enough to read something that doesnt agree with their already made-up minds, here is a great link.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/02/do-bush-followers-have-political.html
Since Phillip is shilling for conservative columnists, I thought maybe a GOOD liberal read would be ok here. Just in the interests of being “fair and balanced” of course.
Lets see…if you lined up all of Gore’s stupid statements, and then compared them to the line of bush stupid statements, um, can any of you Kansas science scholars tell me which lined would be longer?
BTW, Gore’s “stupid statements” only make people laugh at him. When bush/cheney make stupid statements it starts a war. When clinton lies, it makes him look like a jackass. When bush lies…1000’s of troops get killed.
scott, gore didnt cover up his remarks. cheney did. Remember, not the deed but the cover-up causes the problems. And the press coverage.
Scott–
I am “low brow,” don’t let anybody tell you differently. (joke)
FrmGrl–
Great post, as usual. (not a joke!)
never said cheney was right. always thought he was wrong and it was a non issue being made an issue. but look at the sheer number of blogs entries about cheney vs. other things that should be more important ie education, oil rights, sex crimes among others and tell he his stupid predicament was more noteworthy.Was cheny even more noteworthy than gore being in saudi arabia taking shots at his country. as many on here point out many sept 11 hijackers came from there. so what is actually more news worthy.seesm soem on here can’t see their own myopic view and get offended when it is questioned.
i guess each side is always looking for the next great scandal
a serious question. if cheney had come right out and said i screwed up and shot my friend would that have been satisfactory.
Here are the new torture photos.
http://smh.com.au/ftimages/2006/02/15/1139890768716.html
They aren’t showing the dead bodies or the children who were raped, but what they do show is that we continue to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqis by our sacrifice for freedom.
(heavy sarcasm)
What ALGore said was irresponsible and stupid. What he said will only feed the fire of our enemies. Of course this is Al “who are these people” Gore; who asked that question when entering a White House room where paintings of Benjamin Franklin and other founding fathers hang.
You mean like how Bush had to get briefed on the difference between Kurds, Sunnis, and Shias even as troops were mustering to invade Iraq?
Al Gore WROTE a bestselling book on world politics and the environment.
If you really want to compare President Stupid to Al Gore, bring it on . . .
scott, a serious answer.
If, on Saturday night, cheney had publicly said “I screwed up, I shot my friend, I talked immediately to local law enforcement, and I am sitting by Harry’s bedside”…then yes, this would have been a non-issue.
I didnt think it was a big deal either, at first. It was only the delay, the cover-up, “truthiness” etc. that aroused my suspicions. And I wouldnt be nearly so suspicious if bush/cheney didnt have a history of deny, modify, deny again, even in the face of the facts. “Who you gonna believe, the administration or your lyin’ eyes?”
I used to hunt too, and have done stupid things that could have ended badly. But you can bet your sweet hiney that if I had done what cheney did, including turning away local law for over 14 hours, I would be treated far more harshly. I would have probably had to pee in a cup at a minimum.
serious question scott.
Do you really think the whole story is no big deal? You all are having seizures because of gore’s words. What if he had done what cheney did? Honestly scott, what would you say then?
“What he said will only feed the fire of our enemies.”
Whew, nojoco. I am SO GLAD this administration never says anything to feed the fires of our enimies. We would REALLY be in trouble then.
Pl, It’s hard for you to stay on topic isn’t it? Did I say anything about President Bush? I’m not here to play your little petty games. I’m here to state my opinion.
You’re an irrational person at best. That’s why I generally ignore you. You can’t discuss anything without spewing your hatred for the Bush administration. I took this brief respite to address you.
I generally read more than write. I generally try to post quality, not quantity – something you should consider. Mainly it’s because I want to learn. But I learn very little from you because you’re so reactionary that you go Google what fits your agenda and post it as fast as you can. In other words, you jump to conclusions then attack others personally and often without provokation.
seriously,i would have thought he was an idiot, because i have always thought that about him, not all democrats, but him.and i owuld have paid it no never mind because as a public servant especially the vp his istuation is always gonna be made bigger than it is. i have no idea ho wthe secret service works in all this but i do know in every admin there are issues of quetionable privacy and ethics, not just bush, not just clinton, every admin. if we don’t liek then change the system or quit bitchin. no i’m cussing.would you throw the same fit if it was gore. spill out all the jokes, blog up a storm. etc. i try to be open minded about all of this and try to keep perspective. doesn’t always work but at least i try
Dear ksfarmgrrl,
Why would any sane, patriotic, white, hereosexual, Christian, male ever want to read anything by Glenn Greewald?
He is a Jewish, liberal, self-hating, anti-American, lying, failed, ex New York attorney. He has been reduced to writing his drivil on a BLOG that is only read by people needing to have their own idiotic liberal views validated.
I’ll just let you summarize his crap and post it here.
Still love ya though,
Hank
pl,
how do those pictures help teh situation now. it was a crappy situation that made our country look bad. we all know it happened so how does publishing them now help. it seesm to me, is all it does is further hatred of the united states that began long before our present situation. i’m all for open accesa and holding the govt accountable but fanning the flames just seems stupid
Once again scott, it would be no big deal if gore did it? Note to self…book mark these posts for future reference. I expect to post those words from you again.
I have a sinking feeling the gore remarks wouldnt even be news if it wasnt the lamest thing cons could come up with to push dead eye dick off the front pages. After all, the other current news items dont speak very well for the administration either.
Is this is the best the cons can do when searching for a “clinton did it” shiney object to distract attention from the vp?
Good morning Hank.
“Why would any sane, patriotic, white, hereosexual, Christian, male ever want to read anything by Glenn Greewald?”
Gosh Hank that sounds just like this guy:
http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/
Uh… you would read Greenwald for the same reason any SANE person would hold their nose and read instapundit? I think the reason to read people who dont agree with us is called “both sides of the story”. I know you are unfamiliar with the concept.
I see where Nathan gets his propensity for pre-judgement. Must be a family tradition. Dont educate yourself, just drink the koolaide until you believe everyone else is wrong.
Hank, what would we do without you? Who would provide the constrast, the comic relief, the choices for readers.
I am nothing without you….
go ahead and mark away.
so gores remarks made in saudi arabia, a country while not openly hostile, is surely not helping us, are ok. and its just about pushing cheney off the front page. now i understand. boy am i glad i read this daily.
i guess we’ll just have to find another shiny object. thanks for all the tips. nothing like partisan politics.
you still didn’t answer how you would react if it was gore who was in cheneys position. would you have all the entries about it you do now or would it be a non issue. i expect the latter
Hank,
So Christians don’t have no business reading what has been written by Jews? Do you have any idea how offensive that remark is? Probably not.
Anti-semetic remarks ought to be beneath someone who identifies himself as a Christian.
You aren’t a nice man, Hank. You’re a bigot. And an anti-Semite to boot.
CF
LOL scott, I am no fan of gore. I would be just as brutal with him. Equal opportunity offender, remember? I just think bushco actions are more deadly than gore’s words.
And if you wanna argue stupid words, please dont bring bushco into the picture. It would be as easy as shooting quail in…oh never mind. LOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Dear CF,
By merely mentioning that poor ol’ Glenn is a Jew I’m now an anti-semite?
I’ll have to admit I’m a bigot, that’s not necessarily a bad charactor trait, especially if I’m bigoted toward stupid people.
Now, go ahead and add homophobe to my resume, because….did you know Glenn is a homosexal too!
Hank
Thank God Greewald is a white man or I’d be a racist too!
Hank
Which glenn hank. Instapundit?
“nothing like partisan politics”…yeah, or the smell of napalm in the morning.
If you are looking for objective analysis, you would have to take a scientific approach. And that would not be here in ks…..
Your Glenn, Greenwald.
Did Al Gore ever exlpain his shady fundraising exploits?
Viva la Raza Blanco!!
Hank,
You didn’t just ‘mention’ that Glenn Greenwald is Jewish. You listed it as a reason not to read him.
If you don’t read what someone says just because they’re Jewish, that makes you an anti-semite. And even if you have other reasons for not reading them, listing the fact that someone is a Jew among other reasons for not reading them STILL makes you an anti-semite.
Seeing as how you’ve shown yourself to be on Ian’s level, you want to observe his recommendations about how one uses racial designators like ‘white’.
ks,
i’m not blind bush follower, but does inflaming the musim world with a speech attacking the bush admin and thereby the usa help. given the reaction to the cartoons. or the amount of life lost on 9/11 i’m not sure any speech like that is helpful.
Leave ‘em alone CF :) We can be the only ones brave enough to see what the other side thinks. It does give us a competitive advantage over the finger in the ears “lalalalala” crowd.
scott, why is telling the truth inflamatory? Is anyone who disagrees with this administration inflamatory? Do you think “axis of evil” is an anti-inflamatory remark? Do you think ann coulter is inflamatory when she calls them ragheads or worse?
If you are worried about inflaming the arab world, should we just end the first amendment to make them happy? Isnt that doing what bush said we wouldnt do? “Allow terrorists to change the way we live?”
What other concessions should we make scott? Any other freedoms you wanna ditch so as not to make the arab world mad?
scott, you said about gore:
i would have thought he was an idiot, because i have always thought that about him, not all democrats, but him.
Pssst…..scott…I think dead eye dick is an idiot too. Does that make all my comments ok? :)
PLHow observant of you. You get one star for your collar. No, I’m not going to link to the quotes. You seem intelligent enough to find them yourself. Sometimes It’s better to do so, don’t you think? They’re out there, you’ll find them if you want to.
No, Clinton and Gore never invaded or occupied a country, but, let’s suppose for one insignificant minute that Gore had won the election: If we take his quotes as gospel, how would he dispose of Saddam without military action? Send over Joe Biden to talk him to death? Ted Kennedy to drink him to death?
If we don’t take his words as gospel, then what does that make Gore? A typical politician pandering to the voters? A typical politician bsing the public?
Either way, is he a man you want to run a country? While Bush certainly does not know how to run this country, I doubt Gore would do a much better job. Why? Again, figure it out for yourself.
I have this nagging sensation you are failing to think this one through. Go to the corner and take a ten minute time out.
This non-liberal piece has some interesting speculation about Gore’s motives for his speech.
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21290
In a nutshell:
“But in the pivotal state of Michigan, America’s Muslim population now exceeds that of Jews, as may soon be the case nationwide.”
In other words, it’s about getting votes.
The rag also said that the exodous of bin Ladens after 9-11 was not true. Anyone know anything about that?
ks,
i don’t want to stifle free speech at all, but just because you believ something is true doesn’t mean the venue is correct. after all aren’t teh dems always telling us that it was saudi arabia where all teh terrorists acme from on 9/11.
iam all fro dissent and free speech but be smart about how, and where you do it because it might end up affecting all of us in another attack. i just see no reason to inflame a world that is already smoldering. can’t insult the boss even though it may be true, isn’t a wise course of action.otherwise be prepared for the events that may come from something like that.
ps not a big fan of cheney either or how he acts. isn’t helping a tough situation at all
Dear CF,
Actually, since you seem to love to pick the fly shit out of the pepper, I didn’t give any reason why I wouldn’t I asked why should I read things by him.
I then merely listed some facts about him.
You sir, infer what I don’t imply. You seem to have a preconcieved notion as to what conservatives are, a notion that reveals more about you than me.
Hang in there, you make me look good!
Hank
scott, with all due respect, these days there is no “right venue”. The whole world is one venue. You say it, it gets picked up. Remember what Mark Twain said. Even in his day, a lie could be half way around the world while the truth was putting on its shoes.
“I am an average American citizen, a nobody really, cast in a sea of 299 million morons that believe everything the United States government tells them.”. . .an average American citizen. Obviously another moron living in a sea of morons. Your mom Ian?
Mother,
Whose momma u b, galahd’s?
Viva La Kansas Blanco!!
Here is Al Gore’s ‘Final Soluton’ to global warming:
http://hippocampy.blogspot.com/2006/02/gore-escapes-global-warming-by-cave-in.html
Mother–
You’re a clever, Mother, I’ll give you that.
Here’s a fuller context of those quotes you cherry picked:
“Moreover, if we quickly succeed in a war against the weakened and depleted fourth rate military of Iraq and then quickly abandon that nation as President Bush has abandoned Afghanistan after quickly defeating a fifth rate military there, the resulting chaos could easily pose a far greater danger to the United States than we presently face from Saddam. We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.
“We have no evidence, however, that he has shared any of those weapons with terrorist groups. However, if Iraq came to resemble Afghanistan — with no central authority but instead local and regional warlords with porous borders and infiltrating members of Al Qaeda than these widely dispersed supplies of weapons of mass destruction might well come into the hands of terrorist groups.
“If we end the war in Iraq the way we ended the war in Afghanistan, we could easily be worse off than we are today. When Secretary Rumsfield was asked recently about what our responsibility for restabilizing Iraq would be in an aftermath of an invasion, he said, “That’s for the Iraqis to come together and decide.”
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp
But that’s what Bush and his minions do isn’t it, cherry pick evidence to do what they want.
By the time the truth comes out, we’re on to the next major lie scandal of this POS administration.
If Al Gore believed that SH posed a threat to the US, he had eight years to do something about it. And he did do something about it: he kept sanctions in place, he kept inspectors in place until ‘98 or so, and he and Clinton ordered a major airstrike the significantly degraded Iraq’s war making ability.
Major damage to Iraq’s threat–not a single American lost.
Ian, if I was your mother, you wouldn’t be here: abortion would have been your cornerstone; stem cells your legacy.
Hehe, Mother. Ian deserves it and so much more . . .
I don’t worship Clinton – Gore, far from it.
But if you’re arguing that Gore is just as bad as Bush, no way.
Bush has the reverse Midas touch, everything turns to dross.
Worst. President. Ever.
Dross. That’s the type of word Galahad would use. Where can he be? Why did I ever tease him?
Wow, its gone absolutely bananas in here! People going ape-shit about Jews and treasonous domestic neo-nazis putting down the “Average American citizen”. Let’s dispense all the political rhetoric, shall we?What did Al Gore’s statements in Saudi Arabia actually accomplish?? Did it do anything positive for America and make our country a safer place? Say what you will about Gore’s ramblings but I see nothing beneficial about them for us.
Poor Al,
He has to resort to the Jimmy Carter level of treason to get any attention these days.
You almost feel sorry for the guy…
PL,Not bad, but you did a little cherry-picking yourself, now didn’t you? You are also assuming I am some “minion” of Bush because I question Gore’s believability.(”But that’s what Bush and his minions do isn’t it, cherry pick evidence to do what they want.”)
Actually, if I were to vote for anybody for president, I would vote for me: Queen of America. Steroid college boys, chocolate ice-cream, maybe a blond, if I’m so disposed, welfare checks for all Liberals, Free bibles for all neo-cons, and forced abortion for all American Idols. The troops would be brought home, we would guard our borders; deliver our mail; take care of our aged and infirmed ; feed the hungry, allow people to make their own choice of where they buy medicine; smoke if you got em; if you’re stupid enough to buy snake oil, more power to you; if gambling is good enough for the government, it’s good enough for the average idiot; deport Ian and Ed to Israel; force the clean air act to clean our air, start a major push for nuclear energy, start an even more major push for alternate energy. And last, but not least, _____________________, (fill in the blank)
Cherry-pick that, PL:-)ps: boxers or briefs?
(___________)Fill in the Blank
Invite President Ahmadinejad to go quail hunting with Dick Cheney.ROTFLMAO!!
Excellent question, Crusader. What exactly did Al Gore do to help anyone with his comments?
I would be interested in hearing something positive out of that.
Anti-Semites are anti-Jesus, anti-Jesus equals anti-Christian. Therefore anti-Semites are anti-Christian, and all you anti-Semites/Christians are gonna BURN IN HELL!!!! BURN BABY BUUUUURRRNNNN!!!
Nojoco? Now make no mistake. I hold you in very low regard. Just as you said that you generally ignore Proud Lib, I want you to know that I generally ignore you. I find your posts typical of the right……..mainly dittospeak.
But nojoco? “sir” Ma’am” Hank? You posted upthread that Al Gore on entering a room with pictures of Ben Franklin and other founders said “Who are those people?”Hey Nojo? I invite you to prove that. I don’t expect you can. To be more to the point NoJo Co I am calling you a liar. In person and up close I’d use stronger words.
Ben Hule, thanks the info on arpanet. I did not know that one. It seems Al Gore WAS instrumental in CREATING the internet. Now what he should be given the MOST credit for is leading the initiative to make the internet PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE. And you do not have to look very far to find that is true. How ironic that that very internet he helped bring is used by mis informed drones of talk radio to attack him.
Ahh but Al Gore was always at the head of “radical” ideals.
the very first speaker on cspan as a representative from Tennesee who welcomed the new technology and openness of government was…..Al Gore
Al Gore advocate the elimination of the internal combustion engine by 2025. Now your boy bush borrowed and edited just a bit. In his last state of the union he advocated independence frommid east oil by 2025. So he was borrowing from Gore but……with no ideas.
Ahhhh but why waste time on truth or facts? hanknathan is a double poster and born liar. And since I’ve not heard a single post, thought or idea on these blogs or anywhere else that did not originate from the anal orifice of Rush or Hannity I call to question whether the right in this country approaches anything resembling intelligent thought.
Al Gore spoke in Saudi Arabia. What you are not posting is that he pointed out instances where America might be wrong and how we might change that in order to have better relations with the mid east. Now I KNOW that some of you don’t think America can EVER be wrong. You might want to stop and think that if people are so pissed off at us that they are willing to DIE attacking us that they just might have a reason. Might that be worth thinking about a little bit? Sure seems bush’s take on things aint working: well for anything more than Halliburton war profits I mean.
Yeah talk is cheap. It’s a whole lot cheaper than 400 billion dollars and thousands dead.
OTFLMAO!
At least Gore isn’t selling terminals at our sea ports to United Arab Emirates. Guess we can trust them to check those cargo containers.http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/394170/dubai_deal_on_ports_draws_fire/index.html?source=r_technology
Yeah Steve not much on that.
bush can’tbe bothered with the issue of handing over control of major seaports to a United Arab Emirates company. To whit, he passed it saying “check with other authorities”
Now Rash Laimbrain (some call him Rush) was initially troubled by this. But he since has weighed in for it “Their cities look like our cities and it is the most American looking place in the Arab world”
So much for the war on terrorism.
Guess they cleared it with Chertoff; makes me feel a whole lot better!
Whoa, I crossed swords with the wrong . . . MOTHER!
I’m looking at you with new eyes, Big Mama.
When I see your by-line now, I’m going to think the “Statue of Liberty,” if she could talk.
So . . . I salute you, ma reine.
You do have a point. Gore’s mouth sometimes makes statements his wallet can’t pay.
But compared to Bush, he’s flipping Abraham Lincoln.
Of course, compared to Bush, every president since the founding of this country, and that includes Nixon and Millard Fillmore, looks like Abraham Lincoln . . .
As for your last question, which do YOU prefer?
I’m thinking “none of the above.”
hehehehe . . .
Great post JR. Call a spade a bloody shovel pal. They cant stand it.
JR,It’s called a memory. I watched video of Gore asking the question and Clinton shaking his head and looking embarrassed about the question.
You’re getting a little upset over something I wrote to another poster.
Tell ya what, go out and treat yourself to a new bumper sticker. That’ll cheer ya up.
Okay, NoJo, I googled your quote and I found it on video tape no less on a Gore-Hate-Website.
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:VPOb0zKrGioJ:www.gargaro.com/algore.html+%22al+gore%22+%22who+are+these+people%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
The thing is, you lamebrains, Gore KNEW Washington and Franklin as he indicates by saying “right, yes” when he’s “informed” of that fact. It was obviously only Lafayette and John Paul Jones that he didn’t recognize.
I don’t think I’d recognize them either, would you?
Another out-of-context faux “outrage” to compensate for the right-wing’s failed war and everything else . . .
Gross, I just ate lunch and I see references to PLs underwear! I think im gonna puke!
They just hate it when you catch ‘em, dont they PL
PL, the video did not work. The audio did work. He said, “Who are these people?” You must be psychic to know what he was really thinking, or maybe you leftists have some kind of telepathic powers.
BTW, thanks for the site.
NoJo–
I love seeing you and Hank squirm like weasels when you get caught in making a statement that leads to a false conclusion.
You can hear Gore saying clearly, “right” and “yeah” in a tone of voice as if to say “of course (I knew that)” when the docent says, “that’s Washington and Franklin.”
Do you think that a guy who’s picture is on the flipping one dollar bill is not going to be recognizable to a Senator’s son who served as Senator himself?
You don’t have to be telepathic to see Gore was referring to Lafayette and John Paul Jones . . .
PLWhen “Big Mama” speaks, hurricanes run for cover. If I were president, Katrina would have come ashore in Washington D.C. and cleaned house.
Hehehe, Mom-bomb–
Brownie may have not been doing such a “heck of a job” if Bush Co had been hammered with Katrina . . .
Good one, ProudLib. Reminds me of Galahad, almost. Almost as erudite.
Yeah, I miss old Galahad.
He was a towering intellect.
You remain a stupid prick.
Ouch, ProudLib, that hurts.
Why should it hurt, Steve?
You only post shit like this with the intention of being an annoying prick.
You are what you intend to be.
Or ProudLib, maybe he is what he eats.(sorry, couldn’t resist)
PL,If you’re going to continue to label anyone who disagrees with you as a conservative or neocon, or continue to insult people for such reasons, you’re the one seen as narrow minded. It’s people like you who want to continue to divide the country. You continue to tow the line that started during Vietnam. You make assumptions about people you don’t know. You stereotype and put people into boxes. You want to place people within some political box. You don’t give people the benefit of being versatile and complex.
Honestly, some may have differing views and may want to express something that agrees with you but since you have this know-all attitude and you’re so beligerant about your talking points, it makes it hard for people to not be threatened by your reteric. I’ll say this again, you act like Rush Limbaugh! He often takes some knowledge that he learns of and automatically thinks he knows everything there is about it.
It’s time for both politcal parties to grow up. President Bush could lead this by example but he is immature as well.
I think everyone puts everyone else into categories. Even if one describes oneself to another, the latter’s preconceived notions about the former’s characteristics will have an indelible effect on the judgment of the latter. This is evidenced by people who proclaim themselves to be “Christian” and while that word may have different connotations to different people, one’s preconceived idea as to what he believes the ideal Christian should be carries over to the person who describes himself as such. For example, when I say that I am a Christian to people around here they are surprised because I do not hesitate to use profanities in my speech. I get many raised eyebrows because they have a pre-conceived notion that a Christian is one who seldom or almost never uses profanity.In regard to NJC, I believe he is correct. You cannot simply dismiss the complexities of the human psyche, that is why to say that all people of a certain race, religion, or political affiliation all act ideally to those preconceived notions that we may have about such things is wrong, ignorant, and logically inconsistent.
NoJo–
Two quick points: one, ever since Carter, the radical right has been portraying the left as effeminate, Frenchified surrender monkeys.
My chair-across-the-face responses are a result of having to take it from those people for so long.
I was a wrestler in high school and college. I’m not a big believer in passive resistance. Now I can finally give a little back to those SOB’s.
Two, when you said that The N Y Times is just as biased a news source as Sean Hannity, I realized either your intellect or your experience (or both) was lacking the level in which I can have a meaningful dialogue with you.
Thanks for your criticism. I’ll take it under advisement.
“right has been portraying the left as effeminate, Frenchified surrender monkeys.
My chair-across-the-face responses are a result of having to take it from those people for so long.”
Laughing laughing laughing.
Proudlib I could not have said it better. We’re mad as hell and we’re not gonna take it anymore.
I think that is why some of our “back at ya” responses are such a shock. They think we are all a buncha wussies and peaceniks and they are shocked, SHOCKED I SAY, when we give them their own stuff right back.
Then they start pissin’, moanin’ and sighin’ and crying like a buncha little girls (sorry again to little girls). When they do it they are telling it like it is. When we do it we are being angry and mean. BOOGY BOOGY BOOGY we are coming to get you!
LOL…
The sad thing is that you guys think that calling us names, making fun of us and spewing your constant hate is doing something positive.
hehe
Keep it up and the Republicans will keep winning in the elections and you will still be wondering why.
LOL
The things you do don’t bother me, I have come to expect nothing less from you.
Did we touch a nerve nathan? heheheheheheheh
If my laughing makes you think you hit a nerve, then yeah.
I’m still really hurting.
What part of Al Gores statements were false?
Thanks, FrmGrl. I agree totally. Newt Gingerich, HW Bush, Baby Bush, Lee Atwater, Roger Ailes (now the head of Fox News) have been nothing but “angry” for years.
Cheney tells Leahy to “go f*** himself” on the floor of the Senate, and he not only is NOT called “angry,” but it hardly gets covered in the “liberal media.”
Meanwhile, Howard Dean says the dead obvious like “A lot of Republicans have never earned an honest living” or “Cheney may not be around much longer,” and the media lights up like a pinball machine with “angry.”
Conservatives have been full of “righteous indignation” for so long, they can’t take it when the left starts stealing their thunder.
NoJo/Steve–
It’s “toe the line,” not “tow.”
“President Bush could lead this by example but he is immature as well.”
Wow, that has the profundity of what a fourth grade teacher might tell an unruly student.
Look, it’s not Bush’s “immaturity” that’s hurting this country, it’s not division between conservative or liberal.
It’s Bush’s POLICIES that are killing us, literally: endless war in Iraq acheiving nothing except hatred from the 1 billion Muslims around the world and dead Americans.
You’re like those people who say that the terrorists attacked us for our “freedoms,” ignoring the fact that they didn’t attack us for our freedoms in the 70’s or 80’s or that they didn’t attack Canada, which IMHO is perhaps MORE free than the United States?
They attacked us for our policies–mainly our stationing of bases in Saudi Arabia.
Well, that’s it. ProudLib’s ability to dish out the insults has convinced me he’s the best. I don’t even know why I’ll get up tomorrow. Only to long for Galahad, I suppose.
Cool it, Norman. I know where you live, muhahahaha . . .