Howard Dean was his usual unhinged self Sunday on CBS’ "Face the Nation," trying to argue that President Bush has been weak on defense, that we went into Iraq because Iran was the real problem and that Vice President Dick Cheney "is in deep trouble" and "may not be vice president much longer." The last idea, which Dean repeated Monday on CNN, stems from "Scooter" Libby’s leaked grand jury testimony that he was told by superiors (presumably Cheney) to leak the name of CIA agent Valerie Plame to reporters to help discredit Plame’s husband, White House critic Joseph Wilson.
Dean’s wild talk continues to keep the Democrats down, as it reportedly is deterring contributors. It does make you marvel, though, especially in light of what CIA Director Porter Goss has been saying lately, at how selective the outrage is over leaks in Washington, D.C., these days.
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Of all the crap that the democrats are out saying, you pick on Dean?
LOL
Howard Dean belongs in a straight jacket and returned to the Bellevue Mental Institute. Democrats might want to apply a Hannibal Lecter type muzzle to prevent further embarrassment of their party.
CrusaderX,
Oh, you mean like having our asses handed to us in another election where the Republicans defined the issues and lots of Democrats ran away from the party toward the perceived ‘center’? That kind of embarrassment, CrusaderX?
Spare me. Every time Rhonda runs her mouth with the conventional wisdom about Howard, I send the DNC $25. If it pissess off the Vichy Dems, it’s the right thing to do.
The only democrats running away from the party are voters. But hey, just keep doing what you’re doing. It’s working great!
Rhonda I don’t know what you expect to be any different. The Democrats are showing their true colors in Howard Dean.
They have been the party that has enslaved the very people they say they work to defend by saying they are helping them with government handouts but never solving the real issue. If they give just enough each year then they keep people hanging onto the promise of more from the governemtn.
Howard Dean is the Democrat Party and there is no other way to look at it.
Marvin Reality,
Oh, there you go, telling black people how to vote, while appealing to white racists on the side. Are you sure you aren’t Joe Williams? Oh, and it’s Democratic Party, numbnuts. Take that tired Denny Hastert spin somewhere else.
Now. Where was I?
Seriously, I think it’s funny to watch Rhonda get the vapors and cry out for the fainting couch every time she mentions Howard Dean. She is alternatively attracted and repelled, but the only reaction permitted in polite media society toward Howard Dean is repulsion.
But knowing everything I know now, there’s no WAY I’d choose a weasel like Tim Roehmer or a sellout like Tom Vilsack for DNC head. Do you really want someone in charge of the Democratic Party who wants to make nice with folks who are trying to kill us? With those empty suits, it’s all repulsion and no attraction.
The DC Democrats hate Howard Dean because he challenges top-down hegemony over the Democratic Party. As part of the media narrative spinners, Rhonda merely parrots this dig-in resistance and hatred.
I, for one, am sick of party leadership that takes my money and uses it to run toward the perceived ‘center’ as defined by Repuke spin.
Was Porter’s “loose lips sinks CIA spies’ directed at Cheney? Porter is the one being selective in his outrage. I’ve even read that Plame was working on Iran’s WMD program.
There is a difference in work ethics when it comes to Democrats and Republicans.
When Terry “the thief” McAuliffe ran the DNC and the same is true with Dean, when ever they make an appearance on tv for an interview or a fundraising speach, they come with an entourage of people and staff. So much so that you would think they are rock/rap stars.
The Republican RNC chair always comes alone. No staff, no entourage. Because he is a work horse doing his job, not a celeberty trying to capitalize on their fame.
Just different mindsets. Now the Democratic Party is basically out of money. Go figure. I call it the “MC Hammer effect”
Go get ‘em CF.
Didnt I read that Howard Dean has raised more money for the party than any other chair? I guess that would be the “running away” of contributors spoken of here.
We will see how things go in November. If bush’s 39% approval ratings continue to fall, if the polls continue to show that the public trusts dems in congress more than r’s in congress, if Hank doesnt win his bet and dems gain seats in 06, if Sebelius wins a second term….I guess we will blame that all on Howard Dean.
Howard Dean is the only reason I remain a democrat. He is a change in direction from the old party leaders. You know, we havent even had a national election since Howard took office. Let’s see how things go in November. Given the distressing poll numbers for the r’s these days, Howard might look good even to the bushies!
Bush supporters should worry about the next “defection in da election” instead of bashing Dean. Do you hear us gaining on you?
Normally I don’t pick on the editors, but in this case, Rhonda, gimme a break: “unhinged,” “wild talk,” “deterring contributors.”
Good Lord, is their any Republi-spin you won’t repeat about the DNC Chairman?
Howard Dean is the first Democrat to stand up to the Republican fear-and-smear campaign since Harry Truman. He’s finally throwing some red-meat to the much maligned and ignored base of the party–us working folks.
When he said that, “a lot of Republicans have never made an honest living in their lives” he is saying the dead obvious. Instead, the right-wing whines and moans like it’s some big insult.
As far as money-raising goes, check this article from June 2005 (most recent I could find):
“Dean has raised more money by this point in the presidential election cycle than any other DNC chairman had.
“Through the first three months of this year, the DNC raised $14.1 million, ahead of the pace Chairman Terry McAuliffe set in 2001, when he raised $23.5 million in the first six months of that year.”http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/060705/fundraisers.html
Another joeism:
“Now the Democratic Party is basically out of money.”
Wanna back that up? Who said that anywhere?
BTW, Rhonda, Cheney IS in trouble.
You don’t have to be JOURNALIST to figure that out, although one would think that it would help . . .
Glad you are here Proudlib. The lie machine is in full spin today. Cant google fast enough to keep up with the unfounded assumptions and outright lies. They musta all got new talking points last night. I wonder if they “got” them at gunpoint?
And lastly, big contributors don’t elect people. Millions of voters do.
What the Democrats should have learned in past elections is that if you don’t give voters a reason to vote for you, they won’t vote for you.
Chuckle
What exactly is the meaning of “unhinged”? Webster’s lists one definition as “mentally unbalanced”.
Has Rhonda ever called a republican “unhinged”? God knows we have plenty of examples of unhinged repukes. Lets just start with this: Can you say Phill Klein? Can you say Kay O’Connor?
Hehe, FrmGrl. Repubs have a new fundraising technique–shoot them until they give.
Did you see Letterman last night? Biff Henderson was running around with an orange vest and a shotgun. He’d aim at the ceiling, a gunshot sound-effect would go off, and a dummy would fall from the sky.
Funny stuff!
CruX says: “Democrats might want to apply a Hannibal Lecter type muzzle to prevent further embarrassment of their party”
What are you all gonna put on Darth Cheney? Ralph Reed? Pat Robertson? Seems like they are waaaayyyyy more of an embarassment than our boy Howard.
ksfarmgrrl,
I’ve thought for a long time that it must be great to be a Repuke. You can get to make shit up that sounds really cool.
Ya lib. Grants the phrase “give ’till it hurts” new meaning!!
I saw the recent repub emails noting that anyone who falls short of their fundraising mark “could end up wearing a quail costume” if you get my drift…
Did you see letterman? Number four on the top ten list was “I thought he was going gay cowboy on me”.
Has anyone in either party ever said anything as outrageous as “mission accomplished” when deaths in Iraq are now TRIPLE what they were when pinoccio flight jacket made that oh so truthy pronouncement.
“Mission Accomplished”… now THAT is unhinged.
BTW, just in case you think there are only three people who agree with me, take note of today’s poll numbers. Fifty five percent of americans now believe sending troops to Iraq was the wrong thing to do.
Gee, how ya gonna blame that on Howard?
Marvin writes: “They have been the party that has enslaved the very people they say they work to defend by saying they are helping them with government handouts but never solving the real issue.”
So, the huge drop in crime from the 60’s and 70’s, the drop in unwanted pregnancies, the drop in drug use, the fewer numbers on welfare that has been going on for decades?
That’s not “solving the real issue” for you?
BTW, if you’re so against “gov’t handouts,” why aren’t you against gov’t handouts to big corporations?
Here are the numbers for some of the biggest war-profiteers:
Boeing (37.4 percent), Lockheed Martin (44.2 percent), General Dynamics (19.1 percent), Northrop Grumman (29.2 percent), Raytheon (108.9 percent) and Halliburton (292.9 percent).
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room /
Wow, Cheney is really earning his paycheck from Halliburton, isn’t he?
Those profits are through the roof, and taxes, thanks to Bush, are way, way down.
I truly do hope the democrats get their crap together. It would be nice to have a viable choice in ensuing elections. I just don’t see it happening. They couldn’t beat a moron in 2 consecutive elections, how do they think they’re going to beat an intellectual heavyweight like McCain?
And don’t give me that weak crap about “we DID win in 2000″.
Hee hee. Can someone define “deep trouble”? Do 39% approval ratings not signal the “deepest trouble” of all? Deeper than the so called trouble Howard is in?
Yeah Todd, we know with good ‘mericans like you, winning a MAJORITY OF VOTES CAST in 2000 is JUST CRAP. Typical.
Hey farmgirl – I hate to have to point this out for the 1000th time, but the popular vote isn’t what elects a president. Isn’t it time for you to move past it?
Hey Todd, can you spell S&L scandal? That is the mark of a real intellectual heavyweight. But he does have more IQ points than bush. I give you that!
Todd, can you read?
I didnt say he won the election. I said he won the majority of the votes cast. And no, in America, that does not guarentee a presidential win. But dont dismiss the FACT that the dem candidate won the majority of votes cast. That hardly indicates voters running away from the party.
I dont think 2000 was a “mandate” for bush or a denunciation of the dem party. It just means that indeed, in this fine country, winning the majority of votes cast doesnt mean “crap”.
I guess that makes your distain of the popular vote acceptable.
Hey, finally something relevant to today. Well, not really.
I don’t have any DISDAIN for the popular vote. I just accept it as the answer to a trivia question, which is what it is.
Someone else already pointed this out, but it bears repeating. Dean’s fundraising has been at historic levels for this part of the election cycle. Whatever donors he’s deterring, he’s drawn in many more, and those are supporters in the grass roots, people donating in small amounts, rather than the same old big donors.
And I’m not sure how the vice-president ordering the outing of a covert agent bears on leaks that we’re illegally tapping phones. The important information was that the wiretaps were illegal, and that doesn’t matter to terrorists. In contrast, revealing the identity of a covert agent exposes people’s lives to danger.
Is anyone prepared to defend the proposition that it made us safer to pull the teams hunting bin Laden out of Afghanistan and send them to Iraq to hunt for mythical WMD?
Cheney is a CANCER to this country.hunting accident?Careless use of power – ?What a microcosm of his entire life in public service -I love The USA -and I HATE DICK AND DUBYA-Lying Whore Crooks.—–
Wow. I light a match criticizing a democrat and I end up with a firestorm from the Left. You must remember that I am a moderate, and just because I am critical of the Left does not necessarily make me an advocate for everything the Right believes in. Hell, my favorite anti-Bush slogan is: “Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing an idiot” Has politics in Kansas become so polarized that both the extreme left and extreme right attack even the moderates? Are there moderates in Kansas at all? I must be a stranger in a strange land indeed.
Good Grief CruX, lie down for a while. I re-read the posts and honestly dont see the “firestorm” directed to you. Feeling a little sensitive today? We had a great discussion about mods in kansas some time back.
CruX, I do like some of your posts. Please dont start whining like Cheney’s next hunting partners….
“just because I am critical of the Left does not necessarily make me an advocate for everything the Right believes in. Hell, my favorite anti-Bush slogan is: “Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing an idiot”"
Exactly right. The democrats around here can’t take any criticism of their failed stategies, even when they’re proven failures. All I get back is “You must be one of those Bush-backers”.
The funniest part about it is that they think they need to move farther left in order to win. Never mind that the last democratic president was pretty much right in the middle.
Dear Todd,
If you think that a candidate for president that has a Senate voting record that is more liberal than Kenney’s was “pretty much right in the middle”, I’m wondering in the middle of what for heavens sake!
Hell, Bush is liberal! He’s more liberal than Clinton was!
Hank
Hank
“Never mind that the last democratic president was pretty much right in the middle.”
Yeah Todd, and look what happened to him!!
I am not supporting failed dem strategies. I agree on that. (Well, actually, you would have to have a strategy before it could fail.) The dem party, under past leadership, has failed miserably. A change was desperately needed, and more change is obviously needed.
The thread here was not about strategy, but about Dean, and MSM painting him as unsuccessful when that is not true. I do support Howard Dean and I say throw out the failed leadership and stop doing the same things over that arent working!
And BTW, I see how well moving to the right has worked for the dem party since Clinton. That was part of the great discussion we had about moderates. What is your solution Todd?
Please dont start whining like Cheney’s next hunting partners….LOL I like that implied lawyer joke.
CruX, for real now, is this a moderate comment?
“Howard Dean belongs in a straight jacket and returned to the Bellevue Mental Institute”.
Did you really think no one would respond…ahem…strongly to that comment?
And, CruX, do you take those “strong” comments personally? Geez, if I took all the barbs here personally, I’d be bleeding like one of Cheney’s hunting partners ….
“Dear Todd,
If you think that a candidate for president that has a Senate voting record that is more liberal than Kenney’s was “pretty much right in the middle”, I’m wondering in the middle of what for heavens sake!”
Bill Clinton never served in the Senate, so I have no idea what you’re talking about.
“And BTW, I see how well moving to the right has worked for the dem party since Clinton. That was part of the great discussion we had about moderates. What is your solution Todd?”
What made Bill Clinton perceived as a good president? The ECONOMY.
What do most voters think about when they’re casting their vote? The ECONOMY.
Not Iraq. Not Valerie Plame. Not errant shotgun blasts.
Until the democrats get serious about presenting a plan for reinvigorating American jobs, and getting this country back on top of manufacturing and technology, they’re going to continue to eat republican dust. This used to be what democrats were about. Now it appears they’re feeding from the same trough as the fattest fat cat republican.
Ks,If you think that comment was bad, you should hear what I say about Bush around these parts. However this IS a thread about Dean, it would be inappropriate if I satirized dubya in here. No, I don’t take em personally I know I must come off as a smart-ass many times, but in truth I enjoy criticizing and even being criticized by others, else I wouldn’t be a WE blogger like the rest of you guys.
“This used to be what democrats were about. Now it appears they’re feeding from the same trough as the fattest fat cat republican.”Well geez Todd, no argument from me there. Or from Dean. I am the one that says dems should run as dems. Running on economic issues used to BE a dem issue. But everytime I say “run like a dem” someone in here spins that like “run to the left”.
Important issues, like the economy and national security and fiscal responsibility are not left and right issues. They are American issues, and the dems have just as much claim to them as the r’s, provided they articulate a PLAN! I dont think that is moving left.
OK Children,
I’m going to let you in on the real reason that Howard Dean should go.
Quick, don’t GOOGLE it, who’s the head of the RNC?
Now you know. With Howard Dean in charge, its all about Howard Dean. When ever he appears on TV, the news is Howard Dean. Not the message of the Democratic Party.
Now don’t get me wrong, I love him as the leader of the Democratic Party! I hope he runs for president again!
The DNC needs to get a real leader and we’ll start debating the issues again.
Hank
I know damn well who’s the head of the RNC without Googling it–it’s the self-loathing gay who helps gay-baiters win elections (remember the “war on marriage” rhetoric from the bigot in chief?).
His name is Ken Mehlman. His second in command is Dan Gurley, also a practicing homosexual. Dan was outed when he ran personal ads with his picture describing what he likes to do with other guy(s), how big his member is, and whether he’s been circumcised or not (he has).
Why these guys help elect people who hate them is a question somebody should really ask them.
My point still stands. Why is it that when a republican is gay he’s a f’ing queer but if he’s a dem he’s ‘enlightened’?
Just wondering. You don’t seem to tolerant tonight ProudLib.
It is just like being a black conservative… no such thing.
If you are gay you have to be a democrat otherwise you are not to be tolerated.
Liberals and LemmingsHelp me understand what is going on with the political left. They seem to be caught in a rigid path of self-destruction. It’s like watching Lemmings marching off a cliff. It’s painful to see.
Liberals frame themselves as intellectuals, culturally sophisticated, and sensitive souls who “feel your pain”. But listen to them talk or read their words. The arguments they put forth often lack any semblance of logical foundation or well framed discourse. The tone of delivery seems to swing between childish petulance and someone needing an anger management course. Actually hatred management might be more accurate. The level of sheer meanness is difficult to fathom.
When you look past these issues to the content, there seems to be very little left. Subtract the rage, minus the pouting, delete the wacky conspiracy stuff, ignore the insults, and what remains? Far too often, nothing.
I don’t think it has always been this way. There used to be some articulate, bright, and reasoned people who spoke for the Democratic party. Now we have the last Presidential candidate, Al Gore, who seems to be ascending into a higher orbit from earth each day. We have the Chairman of the Democratic Party, Howard Dean, doing his best to alienate the mainstream with his red-faced tirades. And of course, there is the constant but predictable fuming hyperbole of Ted Kennedy. Teddy Kennedy, for goodness sake.
When a Democrat is heard that sounds like something other than a caricature, like Joe Lieberman, his fellow Democrats descend on him like a pack of cannibalistic wolves. Until something rather basic changes in the liberal camp, the Democratic party seems headed for further marginalization.
Democrats desperately need a positive, proactive, intellectually sound agenda brought forth by a reasonable, credible voice. That image does not even appear on the distant horizon of national Democratic leadership. If it does, they will probably shoot it on sight.
Leftist liberals are people with different taste. That’s all. I mean, the ones that post on this blog hide under pseudonym names and links to hate bush websites.
The rest of us have our real names, e-mail addresses, and blogs. We aren’t afraid of our thoughts and convictions either a moderate, libertarian, conservative, or just a Republican.
Leftist people just have different taste in their politics. I’m not saying they are right or wrong, just a different flavor.
Some people like country music, some people don’t. The people that like country music feel is it the superior of all music and people who don’t like it have poor taste.
Leftist liberals flock together and act the same. They are the people who like country music. The rest of us are the ones that don’t.
I could never be a leftist liberal, because its not my taste. I don’t like being a victim of corporations, I don’t like being angry all the time, I don’t like hiding behind pseudonyms and spin, I don’t like feeling helpless, I don’t like anything that the leftist takes in as their agenda and mindset. I don’t like country music.
Well the lack of fuding o the DNC mght bedue to the fact that a lot of good hard working folks who OUGHT to be DEMOCRATS are voting stupidly. Also alot of good hard working folks that DO vote DNC get fired or laid off in this “great economy”. I know I would be sending money to the DNC if I could.
I APPLAUD Howard Dean! It is well past time when this party quit pandering to the squishy, dumb, “middle” and get back to core concerns. And if that means calling Republicans what they are it is well past time.
Both parties are a bunch of jerks. They are both alike except for the name, otherwise there is no difference. Rule number one for all politicians is “look out for my own welfare and bank account.” If there was a difference and they cared for this country and its citizens then the King Bush White House would not have been able to spend $1.6 BILLION of the taxpayers monies for “Advertising and P.R.” to justify their criminal acts.
On Dean -
“I don’t think the case has been made for going into Iraq”
- Looks pretty good now doesn’t it?
“Now that we are in iraq we have to do it right”
- Well we didn’t and it is now cut and run time and Bush is the one in charge.
“The Democrate could be the voice for all those people with Confederate flags on the back of their trucks”
- Go ask the Katrina people in Missisipi and Alabama how the rebuilding is going.
“The Republican leadership hasn’t worked an honest day in their lives”
– Delay, Ney, Abramhoff, Frist (lookup his HCA holdings) Libby probably Rove and Cheney soon. That statement is looking particularly true now.
“I hate what Republicans stand for”
I do too now. The Borders are wide open – a long ago discredited tax reduction policy. The only recovery is on wall street where unearned income is the way to go. Pensions are going away and health care is too. The average CEO of the top US companies now makes 450 timeswhat the average worker does while in Japan it is 12 times as much.
As Lou Dobbs said last Friday “Has this administration done anything right??
Under all the noise I have always found Dean to be right on the money if not way out in front. Just do a little retrospective on his quotes.
Len,Nice sourcing. Nothing the national / DC media (and its representatives on the Eagle) hates more than someone who punctures the conventional wisdom by being right. Gotta kill that messenger who, at the moment, is Howard Dean.
My hero is the media’s anti-hero; but anti-hero still = hero.
Joe Williams,
Geez. How can a person NOT like country music? I loves me some Merle Haggard.
“I’m proud to be an Okie from Muskogee,A place where even squares can have a ball,We still wave Old Glory down at the courthouse,And white lighting’s still the biggest thrill of all.”
Hank,
Duh. RNC chair Ken Mehlman. I get his emails, too. Your idea of a ‘debate’ is for three Republicans to gang up on one moderate without a liberal in sight–kind of like the Sunday news shows. Makes me happy that Dean refuses to oblige–he doesn’t play the bullshit DC / Media game that gives everyone a pass when they’re lying to your face.
Brandon,
Well, if the claim that liberal arguments aren’t cogent isn’t the most laughable thing I’ve seen in some time. Do yourself a favor: look through the archives of this blog. There are LOTS of well-constructed arguments, from both sides, going back a year. Just because you disagree with something doesn’t make it wrong, or a bad argument. Try to get over the idea that just because you think something, that it’s right.
If you’re going to criticize me for being insubstantial, at least make a substantive argument for doing so.
Joe Williams said: “I could never be a leftist liberal, because its not my taste.”
Uh, no Joe. It is because of OUR TASTE!! What makes you think we want you? I think I have a pretty good idea how you would taste. Sour, bitter, burned out and tough. Probably with a lot of extra fat and salt :)
Damn CR, you probably sent them all right to the dictionary with the word “substantive”.
Hehe. They said Ken Mehlman. Can you also say “log cabin republicans”? Can you google your conservative boy Tucker Carlson? IT was his show where it was said that on the tape, Osama sounded “just like Ken Mehlman except less gay”.
How can you good conservative christians condone an “openly defiant” christian to lead your party? You guys are the ones who say things like “lesbians are stupid”? I guess that doesnt apply if it is a gay man. I mean you would never call Ken “stupid”…would you?
Dear ksfarmgrrl,
(C)hristian.
Thanks
“Leftist liberals flock together and act the same. They are the people who like country music. The rest of us are the ones that don’t.”
Ever hear of Toby Keith? I would not call him a “leftist liberal” -at least not to his face.
Did anyone ever teach you anything about sweeping unfounded generalizations? Go back to school and try learning this time.
I used to wonder why Hillside High was trying to get rid of their political science program (at least the M.A. portion). Reading your posts have cleared up that mystery for me, Joe.
Hank, if I ever put a (C) on christian, it will be by mistake. Is that all you have to say in return?
Brandon: “Actually hatred management might be more accurate. The level of sheer meanness is difficult to fathom.”
OMG, that is too funny if you are talking about “liberals and lemmings”. Makes me wonder if it is “mean” when we do it but “funny” when you call us lemmings? Where do you draw the line Brandon? I guess you think people who agree with you are funny but people who dont agree with you are mean? ROFLMAO.
Do you want me to post (again) a nice little retrospective of the meaness in Hank’s quotes? Or the other “nice” moderates? Like I said before, quit crying like a little girl (sorry again little girls). If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen and let a real woman take over … lololololol.
I wonder if it is “meaness” that brings people to this blog? After all “we’re No. 2″. If you wanna watch real meanness, listen to rush or o’reilly.
People read blogs and watch Fox for the same reason they go to car races. They like to watch the wrecks (or “accidents” if you are Darth Cheney) and they especially like to see a little blood on the ground. Remember, “if it bleeds, it leads”.
Hey WE editors, would you start a “nice”, christian, bush-loving GOP blog for these whiners? Oh wait, they already exist in the blogosphere. If you cant stand to talk with people who disagree with you, then find a less public venue. There are other options for those manly men who dont want to get “peppered” in here.
This is amazing…
I have seen ksfarmgrrl defend homosexuality and argue with those who would say something bad about it or homosexuals.
Did you say one thing to Proudlib for his comments?
This only further proves that unless you are a liberal or democratic gay person you don’t really matter to the democrats or liberals. Has nothing to do with being gay or not.
Why didn’t you say anything to Proudlib?
Our “two” party system is a vile fraud and people looking for a political solution to our problems are insane!
Paul Hackett, Iraq War veteran, spoke out against neo-cons, illegal immigration
Paul Hackett, Ohio’s very popular Democratic senatorial hopeful, has withdrawn from the race, citing pressure from New York’s senior Senator Chuck Schumer and Nevada’s Harry Reid, the Senate Democratic Leader. The pair are the same men who had talked Hackett into running in the first place. Schumer, Reid and others in the Democratic Party leadership had tapped Hackett, an Iraq War veteran, after his powerful showing in a run for Congress in a GOP stronghold on an anti-war platform in 2005. Hackett is one of over fifty military veterans recruited by the Democrats to run for the US Congress, taking advantage of public anger over Bush’s war on Iraq.
After accepting the offer, Hackett spoke out forcefully against the “Christian” Zionist leadership of the Republican Party, which sees Israel as a divine instrument whose interests are of more importance than those of America’s. This alone was bound to upset the Jewish Schumer, who has close links with various Zionist hate groups. Then Hackett spoke out about the question of illegal immigration, a taboo subject for neo-conservatives and liberals alike. As reported here at V-News, Hackett “lambasted the Bush border fiasco, saying the Republican Party “is willing to let illegals come in and take the jobs of Americans,” according to reports. While the statement immediately received condemnation from the usual suspects, Hackett is aware that his position has strong vote-catching appeal among blue collar workers, and refused to back down. “Illegal immigration is illegal. It’s that simple,” he said when questioned about whether or not he stood by his statements. Hackett also put the blame for the crisis squarely on corporate exploiters, which is sure to garner support from financially-strapped Rust Belt Whites who see their jobs go overseas thanks to globalization. He also said that he is opposed to amnesty for illegals, a capstone of Bush’s crazy immigration misleadership.”
This was clearly too much for the Democratic chiefs, who began to sabotage Hackett’s campaign. Hackett was quoted in the New York Times as saying, “’This is an extremely disappointing decision that I feel has been forced on me.’ He said he was outraged to learn that party leaders were calling his donors and asking them to stop giving and said he would not enter the Second District Congressional race. ‘For me, this is a second betrayal,’ Mr. Hackett said. ‘First, my government misused and mismanaged the military in Iraq, and now my own party is afraid to support candidates like me.’” Hackett is correct in pointing out that both the Democrats and Republicans – the Republicrats – offer nothing to Americans.
Observers see the withdrawal of Hackett as a result of fear on the part of Democratic tops that they could unleash a populist Beast with their attempts to capitalize on growing White American war fatigue and impatience with George Bush’s lack of action on the illegal immigration crisis. Democratic chairman Howard Dean, who received widespread politically correct criticism for attempting to appeal to “guys with Confederate flags in the back of their pick-up trucks” while on the campaign trail for the presidential nomination, has called for Democrats to ease up on such liberal issues as gun control in order to appeal to Whites. In Arizona, the Democratic Governor Janet Napolitano has declared a state of emergency in front-line areas bordering Mexico and called for a National Guard presence to deter illegal immigration.
Hackett faced formidable interests. According to On The Issues, a site that tracks the voting records of politicians, Harry Reid, as of 2000 alone, “Voted YES on allowing more foreign workers into the U.S. for farm work. ( Jul 1 9 9 8 ) Voted YES on visas for skilled workers. ( May 1 9 9 8 ) Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (June 1 9 9 7 ).” The site also said that Reid “Strongly Favors” immigration. “Immigration helps our economy-encourage it.” Reid is presently in the soup for close links with convicted lobbyist and “Super-Zionist” Jack Abramoff. As V-News writer MP Shiel compiled, “CONTRIBUTIONS — REID RECEIVED $66,000 FROM ABRAMOFF’S CLIENTS: “Reid ultimately received more than $66,000 in Abramoff-related donations from 2001 to 2004.” [Washington Post, 11/18/05] COUSHATTA CAMPAIGN — ENSIGN AND REID LOBBIED ON BEHALF OF ABRAMOFF CLIENT: One of Abramoff’s tribal clients, the Coushattas, “opposed a plan by the Jena Band of Choctaw Indians to open a casino at a non-reservation site, expected at the time to be outside Shreveport, La., not far from a casino owned by the Coushattas.” Ensign and Reid sent a letter to Norton on behalf of the Coushatta tribe on March 5, 2002. “The next day, the Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana issued a $5,000 check to Reid’s tax-exempt political group, the Searchlight Leadership Fund. A second Abramoff tribe also sent $5,000 to Reid’s group.” [Washington Post, 9/28/04; Washington Post, 11/18/05].”
Journalist Michael Flynn also highlighted Reid’s close relationship to the America-Israel Public Action Committee, the main pro-Israel lobby on Capitol Hill, and other Zionists. “According to press reports, in 1990 alone pro-Israel groups gave nearly $8 million in campaign contributions. Among those on the Democratic side of the aisle who received PAC cash and later supported the decision to go to war was Sen. Harry Reid, an influential Democrat who had received $150,000 from pro-Israel PACs during his Senate election bid (a dozen years later, in 2002, Reid would again support the use of force against Iraq).” In other words, the cynical Reid, who had hoped to use Hackett to rake off anti-war votes, is himself a bought-and-paid-for whore of Israel and a leading warmonger.
When V-News Editor-in-Chief and National Vanguard spokesman Kevin Alfred Strom was quizzed about Reid and other pro-war politicians by Iran’s Mehr News, he pointed to the same confluence of left and right that Reid and Schumer had hoped to exploit through Hackett. “The American people are divided on the issue of AIPAC and the Israeli lobby, with a growing minority segment of well-informed Americans openly opposing Zionist domination of the American government,” Strom said. “This well-informed and educated segment consists of both racially-aware rightists and human-rights-focused leftists.” Strom accurately pointed out the immigration aspect of this fusion: “The rightists or conservatives in this group came to an understanding of the toxicity of Jewish power through their awareness of Jewish efforts over many decades to increase immigration and dilute and overwhelm the European-descended majority in the United States.”
Meanwhile, Chuck Schumer is one of the most “liberal” Senators and, as a Jew, is a foaming-at-the-mouth supporter of Israel. The site Vote-Smart.org found that “Senator Schumer supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 100 percent in 2005…the interests of the Human Rights Campaign [the homosexual lobby] 88 percent in 2003-2004…the interests of the League of United Latin American Citizens 100 percent in 2003-2004.” Unsurprisingly, “Senator Schumer supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 20 percent in 2004.” Of course, since White people are second class citizens in America, Vote-Smart doesn’t even track our interests. The same site found that Schumer, “Based on a point system, with points assigned for actions in support of or in opposition to U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation’s position, Senator Schumer received a rating of -4″ in 2003-2004. “Senator Schumer supported the interests of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA) 0 percent in 2004.”
Given Schumer’s “credentials” it is not surprising to find him nervous about an anti-war veteran who is opposed to illegal immigration. Despite his “liberal” pretensions Schumer is an ardent Zionist and thus supports whatever is “good for the Jews” – including a police state. V-News writer MP Shiel expressed litte surprise in finding that Schumer supported the shoo-in appointment of Zionist and spectacular incompetent Michael Chertoff to the hot-button post of Homeland Security head, despite Chertoff being a Bush nominee. Said Shiel, “As is usual, the Jewish agenda is supported by bought politicians on both sides of the aisle — “liberal” Democrat Ted Kennedy supported Chertoff when he was appointed to the U.S. Appeals Court and observers predict he and other Democrats will support him now. Another Democrat (and fellow extreme Jewish supremacist), Charles Schumer, has come out strongly in support of Chertoff: ‘[he has an] understanding of New York’s and America’s neglected homeland security needs… at the outset, he appears to be a strong choice.’” Schumer was also the recipient of largesse from Charles Kushner, the New York Zionist mogul implicated in the scandal surrounding the resignation of New Jersey Governor JamesMcGreevey, who was forced out of office in 2004 after he was exposed as a homosexual in an affair linked to an Israeli possible intelligence agent.Source: V-News Staffhttp://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=7936
Viva La Raza Blanco!!
Sorry Nathan, I must have missed something. What did proudlib say that I should be offended about?
“This only further proves that unless you are a liberal or democratic gay person you don’t really matter to the democrats or liberals.”
If you could say that so someone could understand what you are talking about, I would respond.WTF? Unless you are a democratic gay person?
Yeah, I guess that is why Kathleen and the dems in the ks legislature were so pro gay marriage. More r’s in ks voted in our favor than d’s. That is why so many openly gay people run for office. They are supported by the party. ROFLMAO.
Sometimes you are too funny Nathan.
This is what he said:
“I know damn well who’s the head of the RNC without Googling it–it’s the self-loathing gay who helps gay-baiters win elections (remember the “war on marriage” rhetoric from the bigot in chief?).
His name is Ken Mehlman. His second in command is Dan Gurley, also a practicing homosexual. Dan was outed when he ran personal ads with his picture describing what he likes to do with other guy(s), how big his member is, and whether he’s been circumcised or not (he has).”
Too funny. I agree with everything PL said about Ken the phoney.
You think we are bagging on Ken because he is gay? LMAO. No, nathan, we are bagging on him because he is PRETENDING NOT TO BE GAY!! And because you conservative cultists are going along with the charade. Same way with his little buddy. HYPOCRISY is the butt of the joke here, not Ken being gay.
I will continue to bag all day long on gays who are actively practicing and too cowardly to come out. And all the while they profit from the deceit and pretend to be oh so straight, even when the proof is available. (And some members of the ks legislature know who I mean!)
If you are ashamed of being who you really are, then be something different. Otherwise, STOP THE LIES!!!!! Dont behave one way in public and do your dirty deeds when you think no one is looking. I know that is the GOP way, nathan, but is it the christian way?
“The truth will set you free”. Is that out of context nathan?
Without permission, I want to quote JR on another thread:
“I find it troubling that those who as a matter of practice so often draw lines for others that they seek to get outside those lines.”
That says it all about Ken Mehlman.
Hank,
christianthanks
Hey, thanks, FrmGrl. You totally got my point.
Have been working today and couldn’t get back to defend my post against the knee-jerk “you hate gays!” reaction the right-wing’s useful idiots were sure to raise.
One of the last public protests I went to was an AIDS activism event, so let’s drop the anti-gay sliming, shall we?
The point is not that Mehlman and Gurley are gay, obviously. It’s that they 1. won’t admit it because they’re ASHAMED of who they are 2. they are ashamed because their party is ashamed of them and 3. worst of all, they actively work to help pass legislation that discriminates against gays like themselves (”protect marriage amendment”).
The fact is that a lot of Republicans would not donate if they knew their party were headed by a gay. So he passes for straight.
You know it. I know it. Quit playing dumb, Nathan and Hank.
(Of course, to quit playing dumb they’d have to stop being dumb. Maybe impossible.)
How do you know he’s gay?
“1. won’t admit it because they’re ASHAMED of who they are”
Where is your compasion. Is it only acceptable to be gay if you are proud of it?
“2. they are ashamed because their party is ashamed of them and”
I could care less if they are gay. I don’t hate gay people and neither does the Republican party.
At the risk of being accused of changing the subject…
My dad used to say that “what is done in the dark will eventually come to light”. Candidates shouldnt say or do anything they wouldnt want their mama to read on the front page of the paper.
A seminar leader I know says integrity is a laser like alignment between your inside and your outside. Anything else is a lie, and all evil begins with a lie, whether by omission or commission.
The problems here are all the same. Clinton’s infidelity, the lying ex-gov of new jersey, the lying ex-mayor of seattle, ABSCAM, the secret flaunting of FISA laws, or the dirty deeds of jack abramoff and tom delay all have “truthiness” at their heart.
We are willing to sell our souls to avoid admitting a mistake or shining the light of day on the truth. Or as my dad used to also say “that guy would rather climb on the roof to tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth.”
I miss my dad.
Well if you could “care less,” Nathan, why do you support candidates who don’t let gays into your beloved Corp?
Why if you could care less, why do you support candidates who pass discriminatory laws against gays?
Sorry, Nathan, you can’t support Repukes and “not care less” about sexual orientation. Your people have declared war on them.
Todd, it IS a little hard to say that Mehlman’s gay since he won’t just admit it, but there’s a lot of circumstancial evidence.
How do you know Clinton had an affair with Lewinsky?
CF,
You just don’t get it. Obviously you are one of those that when a Democrat says follow you just go along.
My comments were not directed at anyone culture. If you have an issue with one culture or another that is your problem.
You obvioulsy do not do your homework to stay on top of the issues. I do follow what is going on in Topeka on a daily basis. I also make it my duty as a citizen of Kansas to voice my opinions on the issues to the legislature as well as my legislator. It does not make any difference what their party affiliation is becuase they are elected to represent us all.
So until you step up to the plate be carefull with your racist remarks.
“Todd, it IS a little hard to say that Mehlman’s gay since he won’t just admit it, but there’s a lot of circumstancial evidence.
How do you know Clinton had an affair with Lewinsky?”
Why don’t you just say you don’t actually know if he is gay or not?
Dear ksfarmgrrl,
If you think any of my BLOGs were mean, or mean spirited, you misunderstood them.
Sarcastic maybe, not mean. Disgusted, not mean.
Liberals sometimes mistake disaggreement with meanness. It’s not mean to reply in kind either.
Looking forward to lunch. I’m flattered you’ld get your truck washed before our ‘date’.
Hank
PS Using (c) instead of (C) is just mean.
Todd–
He’s gay.
Here’s a link.
http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/03/ken-mehlman-has-gone-back-in-again.html
Ken Mehlman “won’t say” if he’s gay or not.
Now Todd I assume you’re a straight conservative dude. If somebody asked you if you were gay, what would you say?
Darvin’sDisciple. I was making a point, not to be taken literally that Liberals and Country Music go hand in hand, but was making a comparison to taste in music to the population as a whole.
ksfarmgirl. Good come back. Love your humor. ;)
Yer pretty funny too Joe Williams:)
Lol Hank, no I dont think you are mean. I too think when you flame liberals it is good. I think when I flame conservatives it is good too. Hell, we all like to hear the sound of our own voices here.
But I am only half kidding about it being called mean when we do it, but it is only responding or being factual when “you all” do it. Lots of comments on both sides could be interpreted as mean. Ian even threatens to kill people.
I hope it is all in good fun…except the killing people part. That’s not funny whether your name is Matthew Shephard or James Byrd or Harry Whittington.
“Darvin’sDisciple. I was making a point, not to be taken literally that Liberals and Country Music go hand in hand, but was making a comparison to taste in music to the population as a whole.”
As Dick Cheney used to say, “thanks for clearing that up.”