I totally agree with you all about cleaning house completely. Until the two party system morphs into a system of real choice, money and the churches will continue to play both sides of the fence.

I’d like to believe both the dems and the repubs will die out according to evolutionary theory, but damn, in Kansas, we dont believe in evolution, so I guess we will be stuck with this same system until Jesus brings the pork chops.

Yes, we can vote the crooks out and send “honest” people to Washington, but it won’t make any difference in the end. It’s all about the money.

It doesn’t matter how “honest” a person is when they go to Washington. Everybody has their price. Everybody. It’s obscene.

And it’s all about the MONEY.

And, yes, Walker, money-driven politics didn’t start with the current Republican crop or even the Republican party, nor will it end there (they just happen to be particularly ruthless, audacious and reckless about it). Elsewhere I’ve repeatedly expressed my extreme non-admiration for the current Democratic party “leadership.”

If we throw out this regime, the next step will be convincing the public not to go back to total apathy (a hard sell, as they’re only slightly awake now, and will take any excuse to resume snoozing).

Until the public votes the crooks out the crooks will protect themselves.

I think there is something pervasively corrupting with being there too long. People who knew Glickman “way back when” have told me he changed a lot while in Washington. I worked on Dennis Hastert’s ‘freshman’ campaign; he is no longer the man I knew back then. So tiahrt has also become one of the entrenched money-grubbers. We as voters need to term limit them.

Wallo in your joy at the Republican morons who are involved in this, but mark my words: if it is not corrected on the basic of levels, it will be the democrats who are running for cover in ten years.

The basic properties involving favors in congress cross all party lines. If the democrats really want to do something about it, they will cease their crowing and get down to the business of straightening the mess out. Hopefully, they will come up with some good ideas, something they have lacked for quite some time. Gee, that sounds like a good campaign issue. There is nothing so satisfying as to ignore the idiots and creating an atmosphere that removes the root cause of the problem that allowed them to become idiots in the first place. Can the democrats do that, or will they be the next decades idiots?

[Note: Just filling in. -- R.]

Esod . . . Nathan . . . JoeBlow . . . Heckler . . . ID?

What? Cat got your tongue?

Rush Limbaugh hasn’t told them what to think yet . . .

For proof, just read the calls from the ignorant Bushbots in Opinion Line every day.

Indeed. When the Republican party builds a dedicated, lobbying-money gobbling machine, and the top brass of the party actively participate in the effort to construct and operate it, we’re talking about a different kind of scandal than the usual, mundane kinds of graft.

Abramoff’s machine goes WAY further than what we’ve seen before. And it’s the GOP’s baby: they gave birth to it, nurtured it, and benefitted from it. Exclusively. They kept the benefits for themselves, and now own all the liabilities.

That’s what makes it so funny to watch them lie and spread the blame around. No deal, Joe Williams and others: Jack Abramoff was a Republican operative, and his influence-peddling constitutes an exclusively Republican scandal. The GOP’s rule of Congress has resulted in unprecedented levels of corruption, and that’s why they’re scared as hell. They know it’s true, and want to avoid the reckoning.

So they are both dirty and incompetent. Who elected them? They must reflect the general voting population because we sure keep sending them back.

Democrat Congressman William Jefferson is going to be indicted for bribery. So the Democrat Party is not all that pure.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1495420

Ah, Billmon; he’s one of the good ones.

http://billmon.org/archives/002351.html