Faith that politics can stand alone

After the 2004 presidential election, some Democrats began looking for a way to better incorporate faith into the party’s platform. But this commentary in The Washington Post argues against Democrats linking public policy goals to the goals of religious progressives. Joseph Loconte writes:
“Christians are right to argue that the Bible is a priceless source of moral and spiritual insight. But they’re wrong to treat it as a substitute for a coherent political philosophy. . . .
“When people of faith join political debates, they must welcome those democratic virtues that promote the common good: prudence, reason, compromise — and a realization that politics can’t usher in the kingdom of heaven.”
Posted by Melissa Cooley

33 Comments

  1. writerdog
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 7:13 am | Permalink

    Careful Ms. Cooley, you would not want for the Pastor Fox to call for a protest of the Eagle now would you?He has already called for another one of KSNW! He is going to pass on the name, address and phone number of the new owner. When you mess with God, you anger Pastor Fox!

  2. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 7:54 am | Permalink

    If Bush was reincarnated, he’s probably come back as himself.

  3. Posted January 9, 2006 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    No Ed,He has so far to spiritually evolve, he would come back as a virus.

  4. Posted January 9, 2006 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Granted, I think you could argue that a virus would be him coming back as himself.

  5. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 9:30 am | Permalink

    Steven E. …Agreed.

    Now here is a view into the Israeli mind or the crap Israelis read.

    Charles Krauthammer’s twisted reality and total misrepresentation of facts, coincides with the butchery and misery inflicted on The Palestinians over the last 60 years.

    For those of you who understand the true facts, you might even find this as comical as I do.

    This link comes from Haaretz in Israel.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/05/AR2006010501901.html

  6. Damoon
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Joseph Loconte sounds like a wise man. If only the bible thumpers would internalize true Christian values, the country wouldn’t be so divided. Rather than influence others by emulating Jesus and living their lives according to His example, they use religion as a weapon to discriminate and persecute those who don’t share their beliefs. They are so caught up in trying to achieve power and control in the government, they forget about the true purpose and meaning of Christianity.

  7. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Steven E……Did a virus do that to him, or might he be his own virus? Kind of a virus’ virus?

  8. Joe Williams
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    The bad thing about mixing politics with religion, is that religions such as Christianity have a core belief that part of their duties of being in that religion is converting non-christians into christians. So they believe it is their right and duty to do this any way possible, including using government.

    God and saving people are first for them above anything. Politics and the Democractic processes doesn’t really mean anything to them. They honestly believe that a theocracy is the best way and should be the only way to go.

    Lots of religions believe this. Islam is just another one.

    That is why we must do whatever possible to keep government secular. It has nothing to do with being anti-christian or anti-religion like many of those who say about people who are trying to keep government secoular, we are just trying to uphold the constitution.

    I’m not saying go as so far as banning the “under God” in the Pledge of Allience or “In God” on currency, but just keep government from being a platform of religion.

  9. CF
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 10:23 am | Permalink

    Ed and Steven E,

    You have outdone yourselves this morning. Be proud.

  10. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 10:39 am | Permalink

    CF, I think I’m going to cry…sniffff..sniffffff…sniffff

    Oops, false alarm, that was the bird-flu.

  11. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Heck no, it was’nt. But, heck, if it was, heck, I’d be in a heck of a mess.

  12. damoon
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Well said, Joe.

    If Bush were to be reincarnated, I hope it would be as an Iraqi citizen who has to live the consequences of his “grand adventure”.

  13. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    We have a “born again” freak in the Presidency now, helping to prepare the “holy lands” for Jesus. 25,000 dead soldiers so far and no end in sight.

    Is that a presidential duty?

  14. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

    Dead or maimed.

  15. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    A bird in the hand is worth more than Bush.

  16. Ed Friedemann
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

    The News were not to be allowed to read. Bushwacked.http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2DA95022-A67C-4A93-B7A0-3CDF8538CB4A.htm

  17. Rage
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    Politicians should feel free to express their religious views, as THEIR religious views, not the nation’s. Both JFKs had the right idea. When Gore and Lieberman openly attacked religious freedom, that was the last straw for me (I voted for Nader).

  18. esod
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

    So you’re the one that voted for Nader!

  19. Ian Santiago
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    If Bush were mixing politics with Christianity that would be one thing but he is mixing politics with zionism!

  20. ksfarmgrrl
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 4:33 pm | Permalink

    My current favorite bumper sticker “Jesus, save me from your followers”

  21. Ray Thomas
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Oh noooooo…we can’t upset the leader of the spiritual world, Terry Fox. Hasn’t he been elected, or appointed as grand high exalted lord and master of the world yet?

    He is complaining again about a television show? Did someone forget to tell that simpleton that television sets come with an OFF switch????

  22. RD
    Posted January 9, 2006 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    And a channel-changer, too, Ray, whether remote or built in to the set.

  23. Nathan
    Posted January 10, 2006 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    I see our resident expert on all that is Christianity yet has not even read the Bible is still preaching.

    Thank you Damoon.

  24. XXX
    Posted January 10, 2006 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    Damoon, I remember in the beginning, you said Nathan was “charming”. Looks like he’s come back to haunt you, lol.

  25. Damoon
    Posted January 11, 2006 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Nathan assumes a lot, but so do most people who are arrogant and ignorant. I won’t waste my time with you Nathan, as far as I’m concerned, you don’t internalize or practice the values you flaunt, you’re just a pimple on the buttocks of Christian hypocrisy.

  26. Damoon
    Posted January 11, 2006 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    xxx, I changed my mind about “charming Nathan”, it’s amazing what a**holes people can become when given a little autonomy, their true self often rears it’s ugly head.

  27. XXX
    Posted January 11, 2006 at 10:36 pm | Permalink

    Just re-enforces my opinion that you’re a very sharp lady, lol! Write on, Damoon!

  28. Nathan
    Posted January 12, 2006 at 6:48 pm | Permalink

    Damoon,

    I think the last time I even seen you or you have seen me has been so long ago, yet you are going to say you know how I am or what I do?

    LOL

    I have not even been on this blog since forever.

  29. Damoon
    Posted January 13, 2006 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    Don’t assume things about me, Nathan. It makes you look ignorant. And no, you don’t represent to me what true Christianity is about, you’re just a pompous little sky pilot wanna be.

  30. DUBYA
    Posted January 13, 2006 at 7:14 pm | Permalink

    ME AND MY GOOD FRIENDS TERRY AND FRED WILL SHOW YOU HEATHENS WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT. WE AIN’T GOT ROOM FOR ANY OF THAT ‘LOVE THY NEIGHBOR’ NONSENSE!

  31. Damoon
    Posted January 14, 2006 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    I read that some native Americans would rather be burned at the stake than to convert to Christianity. They were scared if they were “saved”, they’d have to spend eternity with the Christians in heaven.I’m starting to feel the same way. Spending eternity with the likes of Fox, Wright, Robertson, Nathan, etc. would be more like hell than heaven to any reasonable person.

  32. Nathan
    Posted January 15, 2006 at 2:52 am | Permalink

    Just because you dont actually know what the Bible says besides the few parts that suit your purpose is no reason to be a hater :)

  33. Damoon
    Posted January 15, 2006 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    I hate the sin, not the sinner. Don’t think twice about breaking the 8th commandment, do you? I guess it’s my responsibility to point that out to you, afterall, I’m worried about your salvation.