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	<title>Comments on: Williams no poster child for anti-death penalty</title>
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		<title>By: Ron Lago</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16342</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Lago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodbye dirtbag, glad your ass is gone.Redeemed? I doubt it but hey, who cares now, we got the last laugh

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye dirtbag, glad your ass is gone.Redeemed? I doubt it but hey, who cares now, we got the last laugh</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16341</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty scary how many people rallied behind him. Where is their concern for his victims and their loved ones? Where was the justice for them?I agree, why should his death be so painless and peaceful? Even death by firing squad would be more merciful than the mercy he showed his victims. He&#039;s where he need to be.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty scary how many people rallied behind him. Where is their concern for his victims and their loved ones? Where was the justice for them?I agree, why should his death be so painless and peaceful? Even death by firing squad would be more merciful than the mercy he showed his victims. He&#8217;s where he need to be.</p>
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		<title>By: farnacle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16340</link>
		<dc:creator>farnacle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all those years of people trying to find a way to get Williams off, even the liberal courts of California overwhelmingly and uniformly agreed, time and again, that the trial was fair and he was absolutly guilty.

There is considerable doubt that Williams actually wrote those &quot;books.&quot;

There is even more doubt that any kids read them or were affected by them.

There is no doubt that Williams was a brutal prisoner.  He never reformed.

Using him as a poster boy for death penalty changes shows the desperate absurdity of the anti-death-penalty syndicate.

We need to go back to public hangings -- better yet, the firing squad.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all those years of people trying to find a way to get Williams off, even the liberal courts of California overwhelmingly and uniformly agreed, time and again, that the trial was fair and he was absolutly guilty.</p>
<p>There is considerable doubt that Williams actually wrote those &#8220;books.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is even more doubt that any kids read them or were affected by them.</p>
<p>There is no doubt that Williams was a brutal prisoner.  He never reformed.</p>
<p>Using him as a poster boy for death penalty changes shows the desperate absurdity of the anti-death-penalty syndicate.</p>
<p>We need to go back to public hangings &#8212; better yet, the firing squad.</p>
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		<title>By: justoneman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16339</link>
		<dc:creator>justoneman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off folks, ask anyone who has done time and they will tell you that there are NO guilty people in prison.  And they all get religion, in one form or another.  It&#039;s all part of life inside.  All part of the game.  &quot;Tookie&quot; MURDERED four people.  Took their lives, with no regards for their families, friends, what they may or may not have done for the world around them.  The actions of an animal.  &quot;Tookie&quot; is dead, justice (remember that word???) has been served, and life goes on.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off folks, ask anyone who has done time and they will tell you that there are NO guilty people in prison.  And they all get religion, in one form or another.  It&#8217;s all part of life inside.  All part of the game.  &#8220;Tookie&#8221; MURDERED four people.  Took their lives, with no regards for their families, friends, what they may or may not have done for the world around them.  The actions of an animal.  &#8220;Tookie&#8221; is dead, justice (remember that word???) has been served, and life goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16338</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not from Wichita so I don&#039;t know much about what is going on there. I am just wondering if on this 5th anniversary of the horrific kidnap/rape/mass murders of all those good people there is any kind of tribute being paid to them. I haven&#039;t seen any news articles about that atrocity. It is sad that the media seem to have no interest. I know the KS death penalty statute is in doubt at this time but I will be eager to see the 2 savages who brought so much horror to so many innocent victims put to death.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not from Wichita so I don&#8217;t know much about what is going on there. I am just wondering if on this 5th anniversary of the horrific kidnap/rape/mass murders of all those good people there is any kind of tribute being paid to them. I haven&#8217;t seen any news articles about that atrocity. It is sad that the media seem to have no interest. I know the KS death penalty statute is in doubt at this time but I will be eager to see the 2 savages who brought so much horror to so many innocent victims put to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Misty Dawn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16337</link>
		<dc:creator>Misty Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He was upset it took them a few minutes to find his veins.....Oh, gee, I am so sorry.I could have found them real quick, but brobably would have let him wait awhile.

A lot of europeans are mad that he got snuffed out but hey..........................

The death penalty happens every day in LA. Most often too its the innocent shopkeeper or bystander that gets it.One of Stanley Williams&#039; children, Stanley &quot;Little Tookie&quot; Williams, Jr., has also been convicted of murder. Little Tookie, a Neighborhood Crip, was found guilty of shooting a 20 year-old woman to death in an alley off Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood.

Thats the way the TOOKIE crumbles
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was upset it took them a few minutes to find his veins&#8230;..Oh, gee, I am so sorry.I could have found them real quick, but brobably would have let him wait awhile.</p>
<p>A lot of europeans are mad that he got snuffed out but hey&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>The death penalty happens every day in LA. Most often too its the innocent shopkeeper or bystander that gets it.One of Stanley Williams&#8217; children, Stanley &#8220;Little Tookie&#8221; Williams, Jr., has also been convicted of murder. Little Tookie, a Neighborhood Crip, was found guilty of shooting a 20 year-old woman to death in an alley off Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood.</p>
<p>Thats the way the TOOKIE crumbles</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16336</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An eye for an eye, Otto. &quot;Tookie&quot; choose to give up his life when he took the lives of others. He is the only one to blame for his death.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An eye for an eye, Otto. &#8220;Tookie&#8221; choose to give up his life when he took the lives of others. He is the only one to blame for his death.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16335</link>
		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To J M Walker:To answer your question… both. Since when do two wrongs make a right?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To J M Walker:To answer your question… both. Since when do two wrongs make a right?</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16334</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Writerdog (and others) -

The question is if you were innocent, would you admit to murder in HOPE that you would avoid execution.  Even an admission would be no guarantee.  Perhaps admiting to the crime you didn&#039;t know would just cause the governor to say we have the right man so go for it.
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<p>The question is if you were innocent, would you admit to murder in HOPE that you would avoid execution.  Even an admission would be no guarantee.  Perhaps admiting to the crime you didn&#8217;t know would just cause the governor to say we have the right man so go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: writerdog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16333</link>
		<dc:creator>writerdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was touched on in an earlier post.But there is a moral question, if you were accused of a murder and sentenced to death. But had not killed anyone. Would you admit to the murder and act sorry to get out of the exacution? But instead serve natural life in prison.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was touched on in an earlier post.But there is a moral question, if you were accused of a murder and sentenced to death. But had not killed anyone. Would you admit to the murder and act sorry to get out of the exacution? But instead serve natural life in prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16332</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not uncommon for those in prison to &quot;be redeemed&quot;. It&#039;s part of the anti social personality. They almost always do well with structure and strict guidlines, which prison provides. If allowed out back into society, most would go right back to their criminal ways.&quot;Tookie&quot; deserved to lose his life, that&#039;s the choice he made when he murdered those people. Writng a children&#039;s book is small payment for the lives that were lost due to him and his gang. It&#039;s sick that there are those that choose to make him some sort of hero and victim, he was far from it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not uncommon for those in prison to &#8220;be redeemed&#8221;. It&#8217;s part of the anti social personality. They almost always do well with structure and strict guidlines, which prison provides. If allowed out back into society, most would go right back to their criminal ways.&#8221;Tookie&#8221; deserved to lose his life, that&#8217;s the choice he made when he murdered those people. Writng a children&#8217;s book is small payment for the lives that were lost due to him and his gang. It&#8217;s sick that there are those that choose to make him some sort of hero and victim, he was far from it.</p>
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16331</link>
		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Otto,Arnold Schwarzenegger was doing what the courts demanded when they sentenced Tookie to death for slaughtering four innocent people with a shotgun during two seperate robberies. Tell me, who was playing God, Arnold or Tookie?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otto,Arnold Schwarzenegger was doing what the courts demanded when they sentenced Tookie to death for slaughtering four innocent people with a shotgun during two seperate robberies. Tell me, who was playing God, Arnold or Tookie?</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16330</link>
		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need a poster boy to oppose the death penalty. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was just thinking about the next election. Either you oppose executing people or you&#039;re willing to play God and decide who&#039;s life is valuable and who&#039;s is not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need a poster boy to oppose the death penalty. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was just thinking about the next election. Either you oppose executing people or you&#8217;re willing to play God and decide who&#8217;s life is valuable and who&#8217;s is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16329</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bungled injection?  It took a little longer than normal, but wasn&#039;t &#039;bungled&#039;, it got the job done.

It is amazing how many people &quot;change&quot; once they hit death row.  Is it a sham?  Not being a mind reader, I have no clue. Seems pretty common, tho.. for convicted murderers to either turn religion or become a changed person.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bungled injection?  It took a little longer than normal, but wasn&#8217;t &#8216;bungled&#8217;, it got the job done.</p>
<p>It is amazing how many people &#8220;change&#8221; once they hit death row.  Is it a sham?  Not being a mind reader, I have no clue. Seems pretty common, tho.. for convicted murderers to either turn religion or become a changed person.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16328</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta say, he has me wondering. If he was really so amoral and anti-social, what would have been the big deal about saying he was sorry even if he weren&#039;t? On the other hand, he claimed his innocence  even to the point of being executed. I don&#039;t know of anyone in my circle of acquaintances who&#039;d let themselves be executed just to keep a lie alive.

He may have been guilty of lots worthy of execution, but he was convicted on 4 alleged murders. Maybe he really didn&#039;t commit these.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say, he has me wondering. If he was really so amoral and anti-social, what would have been the big deal about saying he was sorry even if he weren&#8217;t? On the other hand, he claimed his innocence  even to the point of being executed. I don&#8217;t know of anyone in my circle of acquaintances who&#8217;d let themselves be executed just to keep a lie alive.</p>
<p>He may have been guilty of lots worthy of execution, but he was convicted on 4 alleged murders. Maybe he really didn&#8217;t commit these.</p>
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16327</link>
		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the thing that really bothers me about the Hollywood crowd is this: Would any of them let have Tookie date their fifteen year old daughter? If the answer is no, they&#039;re hypocrites. If yes, they&#039;re fools.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the thing that really bothers me about the Hollywood crowd is this: Would any of them let have Tookie date their fifteen year old daughter? If the answer is no, they&#8217;re hypocrites. If yes, they&#8217;re fools.</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16326</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame when we as &quot;the state&quot; end a human life. It&#039;s nice that Williams wrote a couple of kids books, but his lasting legacy will be remembered as a blight on society, the Crips. Thanks for nothing, Tookie.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame when we as &#8220;the state&#8221; end a human life. It&#8217;s nice that Williams wrote a couple of kids books, but his lasting legacy will be remembered as a blight on society, the Crips. Thanks for nothing, Tookie.</p>
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16325</link>
		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tookie&quot; may or may not have renounced his crimes, but he was unequivically pronounced guilty of the crimes he was charged with: mudering four innocent people in two seperate robberies.

As Galahad said, the first thing one must do when changing their lives is admit the truth. Tookie never did that. Arnold said that was the deciding factor in refusing to save him from execution.

Ther man was a thug and murdered and got what he deserved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tookie&#8221; may or may not have renounced his crimes, but he was unequivically pronounced guilty of the crimes he was charged with: mudering four innocent people in two seperate robberies.</p>
<p>As Galahad said, the first thing one must do when changing their lives is admit the truth. Tookie never did that. Arnold said that was the deciding factor in refusing to save him from execution.</p>
<p>Ther man was a thug and murdered and got what he deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Blow</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/williams_no_pos/#comment-16324</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I&#039;ve agreed with two (count &#039;em 2!!) of Randy&#039;s recent arguments.  Maybe I need to go see the doctor.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I&#8217;ve agreed with two (count &#8216;em 2!!) of Randy&#8217;s recent arguments.  Maybe I need to go see the doctor.</p>
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