Just when you thought the Plamegate mystery couldn’t get any odder, along comes syndicated columnist Robert Novak’s assertion this week that President Bush knows which administration official or officials leaked the CIA agent’s name to the media. That’s hard to believe, because it means the president sat silently by as one reporter was jailed and others were forced to testify — actions, by the way, that despots around the world have cited as justification for their suppression of media freedom.
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What if Bush knew all along?
You have to ask?
G o o d grief RhondaWhat if Monica is Clintons daughter?
What an awful week for the administration.
The break-out successful election in Iraq, one that may turn the tide there (hope can never die, you know) (and I truly hope the elections turn the tide in Iraq and help end the deaths of American soldiers there) was obliterated by at least 4 powerful body blows to the administration:
1) President Bush admits to authorizing spy activities on American citizens by the NSA…and then fumbles the reason why (”Whatever I do is for America and Americans – and that’s as far as I will discuss this”).
2) President Bush and the GOP choose to forego an extension of the Patriot Act, apparently gambling that they can use their “permanent extension or nothing” against the Dems in 2006. (I think they will lose this bet, largely because the terms of the vote are being reported adjacent to the outcome in every media outlet).
3) President Bush is forced to submit to Sen. McCain’s “no torture” law (this is compounded by the fact the the only reason Pres. Bush agreed to sign onto the legislation is not that he agrees with it, but for purely political reasons in that he lacked the votes in Congress).
4) Bob Novak states publicly that Pres. Bush DOES know who leaked Valerie Plame’s name to Novak and others, and further encourages Americans to hold Pres. Bush’s feet to the fire until he fesses up!
Amazing week if you’re a political junkie like me. ;)
Filke and Ed,
Indeed–and what a day for the Eagle Blog to do down.
If there was any doubt before, today’s announcement about Bush’s granting the NSA power to extra-judicially spy on American citizens should erase it: the President has committed a high crime against the U.S. Constitution, specifically, the Fourth Amendment guarantee against unlawful searches and seizures.
Today’s topic: IMPEACHMENT.
And no, Repubicans, we Americans are not going to let this drop. By spying on American citizens, your guy has officially crossed the line.
Worse than what if he knew all along? What is he and his Saudia Arabian business partners planned it?
A bad electionA economy going south.A need to rally patriotismA strong resplve to get ex-cia ddaay’s enemy -Saddam?
Could there be more than what the movie said? Was that Ferinheit 911?
Once a bad liar …. where does it stop? How can you tell when he is lying? –> his lips are moving!
Authorizing our spy agencies to spy on you and me and all other Ameicans?
Retailiating against an US Ambassador who stated he had facts Bush lied about fake documents about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction – just to get us in a war with his daddy’s enemy?
Revealing the hiden identity of Ms. Plume an American CIA covert agent married to the Ambassador who gave evidence the war documents were FAKE. Revealing the identy of an American agent is TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to impeach this knuckle head in to one of his secret jails!
No one is less American that our new un-elected king
FALSIFY WARSNEEDLESS DEAD AMERICAN KIDSTAKE AWAY FREEDOM AT HOMESPY ON AMERICAN CITIZENS……PAY MILLIONS TO FORIEGN NEWSPAPERS TO PRINT FAKE NEWS – (IN THE NAME OF DEMOCRACY) This one takes the cake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How short your memories are. This is not only patriotic but it has the blessing of God. After all bush was elected because of a mandate from God. Don’t you remember?
You mean all this shit is god’s fault? I thought he was smarter than that!
God didn’t make 10 trips to the White to plan this whole thing.
The Saudis didn’t make 10 trips to the White House to plan this whole thing.
Ariel Sharon made 10 trips to the White House to plan this whole thing, so get off this kick of trying to defer attention away from the real culprit and the real partner and the only one with anything to gain.
The Saudis don’t like the Zionists { Neoconservatives } in the White House and neither does anybody esle with good sense, so that crap won’t fly.
The Saudis sure don’t want the American Army nextdoor in Iraq but Israel sure does, so the half-wit with the shacky little finger pointed away from Israel needs a better plan.
The truth is out of the bag, so live with it.
Karl Rove has Bush causally says that he killed 30,000 Iraqis and a couple of thousand American soldiers, and now Karl is having Bush say that we don’t support the troops. Can you believe the nerve of Karl and the stupidity of Bush to repeat that crap?
Brainless Bush is on a roll, a Karl Rove roll and the idiot thinks that we can’t see through all this crap?
Hello? Got news for ya Karl.
We’re smater than your “Boy.”
Can’t spell “smarter” but we are.
Wednesday, Karl { and his Zionists } is going to have Bush sit behind the desk in the oval office { so he’ll look presidential } and deliver a speech telling us that we don’t support the troops, or the “War effort” and we’re not good Americans. If our soldiers weren’t dying, this would be funny, but they are and it sure isn’t.
{ Oh Karl’s 30,000 doesn’t include the 85,000 “insurgents” who suddenly become “terrorists” when they keep fighting the invaders of their country }
Iraq is a country of 27 million, which has been bombed everyday for nearly three years, so 30,000 + 85,000 is still way short of the real number that have been murdered.
We can still make peace with the Arabs by constraining Israel and forming an independent Palestinian State and stop the Israeli Mossad from bombing politicians in Lebanon, which has become their new hobby..
I gotta echo Codie’s sentiment here. Quoting from Wayne’s World, “What if monkeys would fly out of my butt?”
CF
Notice that Karl Rove never lets Bush consider doing what the American People want him to do.
The treat our democracy as though it did not exist.
The Zionist/Israeli/Neocoservative/PNAC/cabal, which has currently captured the White House, and through AIPAC has bribed most members of congress is so entrenched in Global conquest despite the horrific cost in human lives and the misery dished-out to the American People, and still are so content in destroying the United States of America.
Never has this country faced such a hideously degrading internal enemy.
In Financing Israel we have created a monster.
A psychopathic entity based on lying, stealing, cheating, swindling and the slaughter of innocent lives. They have, using our money, bought their way into the inner working of our government. They want Arab land and wealth, and judging by what they’ve done to the Palestinians, there is nothing, no matter how vile, no matter how abhorrent or detestable to which they will not stoop.
We must undo what we have done.
This is all a bunch of phoney balogna to obscure stories about the success of the Iraq elections. Don’t want Bush to get any credit
Interesting how everyone seems to forget that no has been charged with revealing the name of a covert CIA agent. We don’t even know if revealing Valerie Plame’s employment with the CIA was a crime, since she had not been covert for so long.I wonder why we never see Bob Novak criticized for officially “outing” Plame. I assume this is because he is a member of “the press”, and if “the press” prints something that puts lives in danger or compromises national security, in the media’s mind that’s just the price that we have to pay for a free press. What a crock.
Outlander, your first paragraph seems to cast doubt on the seriousness of the Plame affair while your second seems to want Novak to be hanged for it. Take it easy; such whiplash can be hard on the neck.
President Bush is a really, really high-maintenance Republican, you know that? ;)
Well, it looks like Bush and the republicans have finally accomplished what they set out to do; shred the Constitution. With the revelation of NSA spying on American citizens, we’ve finally become republican Nirvana, a Police State. We,re a nation run by criminals.
As Ben Franklin said, “those who give up liberty in the name of security deserve neither.”
The America I was born to is dead. Rest in Peace.Welcome to The United States of Amerikka.
codie,
There you’re wrong: the Iraq elections were actually Bush’s deliberate act to distract from the fact that he’s just appointed himself sovereign monarch.
Ed,
Indeed. The reason that Presidents Karl and Dick treat our democracy as though it didn’t exist is the fact that it no longer does.
Any of you Repubicans want to argue that Bush hasn’t claimed total, unchecked, monarchical power for the executive branch?
XXX,
America: RIP.
Good night, my dears.
A little over the top on the dramatics there CF.
XXX: At least one branch of government is interested in protecting America. I am afraid that the America we once knew ended with 911. It was inevitable that, given the shadowy nature of our new enemy, some compromises in civil liberites were going to be necessary to protect our country. And you have to admit, what has been done has worked so far. And my civil liberties haven’t been trampled on, have yours?
The only enemy we have is Israel, for those who can see the ovious.
The diversion is terrorism, also for those who can see the obvious.
When attacking an enemy you create a diversion. Israel has exactly and effectivly done that with terrorism.
CF
We’ve only begun to fight.
From Flike–”Bob Novak states publicly that Pres. Bush DOES know who leaked Valerie Plame’s name to Novak and others, and further encourages Americans to hold Pres. Bush’s feet to the fire until he fesses up!”
Right you are! Novak is only saying the obvious. If the President didn’t know, then he’s incompetent and out-of-the-loop and refuses to take responsibility for the people working for him. If he did know, he’s part of a criminal conspiracy and liar.
Take your pick, either choice is equally bad.
What’s truly astounding is that NOVAK would point this out. He must finally be tired of holding up the collapsing house of Bush.
It’s terrible for the administration, I agree. This sure doesn’t seem to be going away anytime soon.
That said, I have to agree with Rhonda that it’s difficult to believe. I am withholding judgment here and still considering that what’s more likely is that Novak had some kind of personal meltdown (for instance, I note that he changed jobs, from CNN to Fox, at roughly the same time).
I’m highly critical of Bush, but I’m not yet willing to bet that he and his handlers are less stable than Bob Novak.
It just beggars belief that the President could do something like this. And if Novak is correct, then the nosedive the administration took in August (Katrina) probably looks like soaring flight compared to what’s coming.
Outlander,how would know if your rights were being trampled on until they come to get you in the middle of the night or you dissappear (you know, they did that to a lot of Arab-Americans right after 9/11)? It’s not like this is a free country anymore where you’re advised that you’re under investigation. How do you know you’re not being monitored? Just because you’re a good republican? The law no longer protects you from that kind of BS. Maybe you were observed or reported talking to the “wrong” person at work, or somebody you know is on the wrong political side. Maybe you’ve done business at some time with someone who’s suspect. Now that we’re a police state, you need to consider those posibilities. You need to be very careful about who you deal with, who you’re seen talking to, and how you conduct yourself. The wrong kind of thinking might get you into trouble. That neighbor you crossed or a clerk you rubbed the wrong way only has to make a phone call.
I wrote: “I’m highly critical of Bush, but I’m not yet willing to bet that he and his handlers are less stable than Bob Novak.”
Let me be clearer here. What I should have written was this:
I’m highly critical of Bush, but I’m not yet willing to bet that he and his handlers are more cowardly than Bob “What’s Fitzgerald’s phone number on my speed dial?” Novak.
By keeping the “heat” on our politicans, we can win them over to our side with enough votes to overcome the AIPAC grip.
AIPAC can’t have the swing vote when we get solidily behind an “American Candidate”
Then we can declare AIPAC to register as an agent of a Foreign Power, not a “lobby” and bingo, their ship goes down by the bow.
That’s how America can win.
Flike–this is the candidate who said in Florida in 2000 to his minions, “I don’t care what represents the voters, do what gets me in the White House.”
This is the man who campaigned on “conservative conservativism” then took no prisoners when it came to tax breaks for the rich and hard-right judicial activists.
This is the president who vowed he would never commit US troops “without an exit strategy” and then put 150,000 troops into Iraq with no plans on how to get them out.
This is the president that Saddam’s “weapons of mass destruction posed a grave and gathering threat,” whose vice president said that “there is NO DOUBT that Saddam has WMD’s,” whose security advisor said we had to stop a “mushroom cloud over an American city.”
This is the president who vowed that whoever leaked Valerie Plame’s name would be fired . . . until the fingerprints led back to KKKarl Rove.
What part of despicable-lying- bastard-who-does-and-says- anything-he-wants do you not understand?
Galahad, so far I fail to understand the “lying” and “bastard” parts, and I think you do your argument a gross injustice by asserting such exaggerated (lying) or easily disputed (bastard) adjectives.
In my humble opinion, sometimes conservatism IS the most effective approach (i.e., slight understatement is more effective than slight overstatement).
$0.02
Flike
The term “Lying” indicates untruthfullness.
And I’ve been called-out for using “bastard” which, according to Webster, sometimes means someone of gruffy character.
I get the impression Galahad doesn’t like him very much and that camp grows larger as we speak.
Although Bush seems does seem so illegitimate in so many ways, especially being fraud. That’s difficult to argue against.