State BOE’s race to the bottom

Kansas State Board of Education member Bill Wagnon (in photo), a Washburn University history professor who has opposed weakening the evolution standards, said Friday that he wouldn’t seek re-election in 2008. He had already attracted an opponent, intelligent design proponent Alan Detrich, who wasted no time in crowing that Wagnon was “scared.”
“These evolutionists are saying that Jesus was half-chimpanzee, so was Mohammed and Buddha,” Detrich told the Lawrence Journal-World. “I don’t think that’s right.”
Hoo-boy. Can’t wait for that debate. In the meantime, Detrich might want to firm up that reference: Which “evolutionist” said Jesus was half-chimpanzee?
This would be funny if it weren’t so ludicrous.
Posted by Randy Scholfield

15 Comments

  1. Brian
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 2:23 am | Permalink

    Thomas Huxley’s answer to Bishop Wilberforce seems particularly appropriate 150 years on…

    “If the question is put to me would I rather have a miserable ape for a grandfather or a man highly endowed by nature and possessed of great means of influence and yet who employs these faculties and that influence for the mere purpose of introducing ridicule into a grave scientific discussion, I unhesitatingly affirm my preference for the ape.”

  2. writerdog
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 5:07 am | Permalink

    Short of voter apathy, even if he wins. He will find himself with no support to continue the fight to “Dumb-down” the masses.

  3. Hammertime
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 6:10 am | Permalink

    If there ever was a case for home schooling, this is it! Parents, take responisbility for own children and forget these clowns!

  4. Outlander
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 9:02 am | Permalink

    Leave it to Scholfield and the Lawrence Journal World to find a moron and connect him with the Intelligent Design movement. ID proponents would laugh at this guy too. Nice objectivity there Randy.

  5. Damoon
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Sounds like the “moron” plans to run for the State Board of Education. It’s pretty obvious that the whole ID movement is filled with morons. How do you discriminate between them, Outlander?

  6. Outlander
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    That comment was beneath your usual standards of tact Damoon. You just called me a moron and you expect a civil answer?

  7. Jed
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Out,If the shoe fits………

  8. Outlander
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    Tried it on Jed. Doesn’t fit. Too small. Might be your size though.

  9. Steven Davis
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Alan Detrich: An Intelligent Design Paleontologist Running for KS BOE

    I am shaking my head on this one, and fear that I have to resort to cliches’ — “only in Kansas!”

    From today’s LJWorld.com:

    “A fossil hunter who supports intelligent design will run for the Kansas State Board of Education seat now held by a defender of evolution.“’These evolutionists are saying that Jesus was half-chimpanzee, so was Mohammed and Buddha,” said Alan Detrich, a 58-year-old Lawrence Republican who takes classes at Kansas University. “I don’t think that’s right.’””He said he planned to challenge Bill Wagnon, the Topeka Democrat who represents parts of Douglas, Shawnee, Osage and Wabaunsee counties on the state board.”Wagnon is one of four board members who voted last month against new science standards that critique evolution using an intelligent design perspective.”

    Detrich calls biologists supporting evolution, “evil-lutionists”. Go to the whole article with this link:

    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/dec/09/creationist_plans_run_education_board/?print

    Detrich is an artist and he makes his scultures from discarded machinery, precious metals, and fossils. The website that shows his artwork is http://www.spearofjesus.com . If you’re looking for a gold crown of thorns, this is the go-to site for you.

    Frankly, it worries me when Creationists start calling people “evil”. If Paul Mirecki was indeed assaulted by Creationists, it may be that these folks are thinking that they are empowered to do God’s work here on earth. That is one scary thought!

    posted this yesterday on my blog:www.kansasinfoquartermaster.blogspot.com

    This Detrich is an interesting character. His web site indicates he is independently wealthy and achieved that by finding and selling fossils. He is originally from Great Bend, but now lives in Lawrence.

  10. Rage
    Posted December 10, 2005 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    The only relevant difference between creationism and intelligent design is the lack of the G-word, a word which ID proponents amply use to describe their motives on their own web pages. It’s not science, unless you think, like biochemist Michael Behe, that astrology qualifies as science, too:

    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8178

  11. Steven E.
    Posted December 11, 2005 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    The chorus for a Jimmy Buffet styled song:

    I’m a living refutationOf Intelligent Design.I spend all my moneyOn cheese and cheap wine.

    Remember, this is a work in progress, but I guess I better keep my day job – gosh, darn it.

  12. flike
    Posted December 11, 2005 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Good point, Rage. According to the December 5, 2005, edition of The New Yorker, the first editions of “Of Pandas and People” used “creationism” precisely where the words “intelligent design” appear in the current edition. (Margaret Talbot, “Letter from Pennsylvania: Darwin in the Dock,” p. 76) (by the way, Michael Behe’s cross-examination by Eric Rothschild in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District is compared to Darrow’s of Bryan in this article)

  13. TRACY
    Posted December 12, 2005 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    It’s time for Kansas to do something about changing the BOE.It’s became a kook magnet.This is terrible.What will we tell the children?I urge everyone to vote in serious and qualified candidates.

  14. barb
    Posted December 16, 2005 at 2:31 am | Permalink

    Why is there such a fuss? New Yorkers will think we’re hayseeds no matter what we do.

    Besides, if evolutionists have a “knockout blow” argument, let’s hear it, for crying out loud. They’ve had several centuries and still can’t explain why major biological differences arise over time.

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