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	<title>Comments on: Rice has more explaining to do</title>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16581</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go here, then pull-up the cartoon. That tells it all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go here, then pull-up the cartoon. That tells it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16580</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about?

Bush&#039;s dad told him not to do it. Is still telling him to get out. Sharon is busy linning-up new tasks for &quot;our&quot; Army.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about?</p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s dad told him not to do it. Is still telling him to get out. Sharon is busy linning-up new tasks for &#8220;our&#8221; Army.</p>
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		<title>By: Dubya</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16579</link>
		<dc:creator>Dubya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This war is for my Daddy!  I took the election so I cold go get Saddam. We just needed two things. 1) an excuse to go get him 2) a way to sell it to ya all!

911 gave us both!  Cond gives me the best mouth service. Who cares if Iran is getting nukes for America or that other Korea? This is me and my daddy&#039;s war - don&#039;t get in the way!

Dubya
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This war is for my Daddy!  I took the election so I cold go get Saddam. We just needed two things. 1) an excuse to go get him 2) a way to sell it to ya all!</p>
<p>911 gave us both!  Cond gives me the best mouth service. Who cares if Iran is getting nukes for America or that other Korea? This is me and my daddy&#8217;s war &#8211; don&#8217;t get in the way!</p>
<p>Dubya</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16578</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USA Today has been putting out, in my opinion, yellow journalism lately, judging by the wording on this piece on Syria and others.

I did consider them as being a reliable source, but not as of late.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USA Today has been putting out, in my opinion, yellow journalism lately, judging by the wording on this piece on Syria and others.</p>
<p>I did consider them as being a reliable source, but not as of late.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16577</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Egyptian who gave false testimony admitted it was false and said the only reason he gave that testimony was that he was being tortured and to make that torture stop. Rice conveniently forgot to mention that.

Condoleezza Rice conducting Israeli propaganda at the United Nations and lying though her teeth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Egyptian who gave false testimony admitted it was false and said the only reason he gave that testimony was that he was being tortured and to make that torture stop. Rice conveniently forgot to mention that.</p>
<p>Condoleezza Rice conducting Israeli propaganda at the United Nations and lying though her teeth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16576</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Condoleezza Rice is conducting Israeli propaganda at the United Nations, and lying through her teeth.

Syria has already repeated many, many, times that it intends to cooperate fully and has been cooperating in the investigation of the murder of ex-Prime Minster of Lebanon, but Rice is &quot;acting as though Syria is not by saying: &quot;This resolution by the United Nations is the &quot;only&quot; way to get Syria to cooperate.&quot;

That is a lie. That is pure Israeli propaganda, and Rice is up to her neck in it. This is too much! Israel wants crippling economic sanctions agaist Syria to clear the way for an invasion of Lebanon and Syria.

Press: Video: U.N. passes Syria resolution

&lt;a href=&quot;http://usatoday.com/news/world/2005-12-12-lebanon-blast_x.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://usatoday.com/news/world/2005-12-12-lebanon-blast_x.htm&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condoleezza Rice is conducting Israeli propaganda at the United Nations, and lying through her teeth.</p>
<p>Syria has already repeated many, many, times that it intends to cooperate fully and has been cooperating in the investigation of the murder of ex-Prime Minster of Lebanon, but Rice is &#8220;acting as though Syria is not by saying: &#8220;This resolution by the United Nations is the &#8220;only&#8221; way to get Syria to cooperate.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a lie. That is pure Israeli propaganda, and Rice is up to her neck in it. This is too much! Israel wants crippling economic sanctions agaist Syria to clear the way for an invasion of Lebanon and Syria.</p>
<p>Press: Video: U.N. passes Syria resolution</p>
<p><a href="http://usatoday.com/news/world/2005-12-12-lebanon-blast_x.htm" rel="nofollow">http://usatoday.com/news/world/2005-12-12-lebanon-blast_x.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16575</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The link showing first Ariel Sharon, then Bush, then Rice, then Hillary.

Sold-out Americans all { except for Sharon }.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The link showing first Ariel Sharon, then Bush, then Rice, then Hillary.</p>
<p>Sold-out Americans all { except for Sharon }.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16574</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Members of congress dare not come out against Rice or AIPAC will see to it that they will not be reelected. That&#039;s how deeply involved Israel is involved in our government.

I&#039;ll post the link showing first Ariel Sharon then Bush, then Rice, then Hillary.

Sold-out Americans all { except for Sharon }.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Members of congress dare not come out against Rice or AIPAC will see to it that they will not be reelected. That&#8217;s how deeply involved Israel is involved in our government.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post the link showing first Ariel Sharon then Bush, then Rice, then Hillary.</p>
<p>Sold-out Americans all { except for Sharon }.</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16573</link>
		<dc:creator>XXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 04:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flike, you can&#039;t start impeachment proceedings without a majority vote. Since the republicans control the government, that&#039;s not going to happen.As for &quot;taterTots&quot; (TaterTots?), she&#039;s a liar. What do we expect? she&#039;s part of the Bush administration. Doesn&#039;t sound like anybody in the world believes her except for our republicans. What does that say about republicans?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flike, you can&#8217;t start impeachment proceedings without a majority vote. Since the republicans control the government, that&#8217;s not going to happen.As for &#8220;taterTots&#8221; (TaterTots?), she&#8217;s a liar. What do we expect? she&#8217;s part of the Bush administration. Doesn&#8217;t sound like anybody in the world believes her except for our republicans. What does that say about republicans?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16572</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuts to the &quot;Phony war on terrorism.&quot;

We have a real war. To take our country back from Israel.

300 milion Americans being ruled by 5 million Israelis.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuts to the &#8220;Phony war on terrorism.&#8221;</p>
<p>We have a real war. To take our country back from Israel.</p>
<p>300 milion Americans being ruled by 5 million Israelis.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16571</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flike

A good example of just how far things are off-kilter.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08376894.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08376894.htm&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flike</p>
<p>A good example of just how far things are off-kilter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08376894.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N08376894.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16570</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flike

As long as AIPAC can leverage who gets elected, there will be no impeachment.

They brag they have 2/3 of the House and 1/2 of the Senate.

And have the swing vote.

Israel says Bush is the best president that Israel has ever had. He gives whatever they want.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flike</p>
<p>As long as AIPAC can leverage who gets elected, there will be no impeachment.</p>
<p>They brag they have 2/3 of the House and 1/2 of the Senate.</p>
<p>And have the swing vote.</p>
<p>Israel says Bush is the best president that Israel has ever had. He gives whatever they want.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/" rel="nofollow">http://www.aipac.org/PC2006/</a></p>
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		<title>By: flike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16569</link>
		<dc:creator>flike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM Walker, sorry, my post was unclear.  I meant that the left calls the right &quot;liars&quot; while the right calls the left &quot;cowards.&quot;

It&#039;s toxic because it reinforces the old battle lines from Vietnam (and back to the end of WWII and the beginning of the Cold War).  I honestly think that Pres. Bush honestly sought to obliterate forever those lines; if I&#039;m correct then the current state is so sad that it&#039;s pretty darn hard to enjoy the irony.

I really do think that, after 9/11 and especially Afghanistan, Pres. Bush had a supreme opportunity to unite the US and indeed obliterate those old fault lines.  Unfortunately, the Iraq war was rushed and the early occupation was botched (e.g., the CPA) and the opportunity was blown to hell.

I agree that the current state of left/right is dysfunctional.

Ed, I hope you&#039;re correct in that I&#039;m overhyping here.  Again, I see our current leadership exacerbating rather than curing old political fault lines, to our aggregate detriment as a nation.

I also think that you slightly overestimate the percentage of Americans who believe Pres. Bush failed to tell the truth, since that&#039;s an impeachable offense per se.  If this percentage was truly vast, then I think we&#039;d have an enormous push to begin impeachment proceedings in the House immediately.  I certainly don&#039;t see that.

To tie both your and JM&#039;s comments together, maybe things&#039;ll improve come November of next year.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM Walker, sorry, my post was unclear.  I meant that the left calls the right &#8220;liars&#8221; while the right calls the left &#8220;cowards.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s toxic because it reinforces the old battle lines from Vietnam (and back to the end of WWII and the beginning of the Cold War).  I honestly think that Pres. Bush honestly sought to obliterate forever those lines; if I&#8217;m correct then the current state is so sad that it&#8217;s pretty darn hard to enjoy the irony.</p>
<p>I really do think that, after 9/11 and especially Afghanistan, Pres. Bush had a supreme opportunity to unite the US and indeed obliterate those old fault lines.  Unfortunately, the Iraq war was rushed and the early occupation was botched (e.g., the CPA) and the opportunity was blown to hell.</p>
<p>I agree that the current state of left/right is dysfunctional.</p>
<p>Ed, I hope you&#8217;re correct in that I&#8217;m overhyping here.  Again, I see our current leadership exacerbating rather than curing old political fault lines, to our aggregate detriment as a nation.</p>
<p>I also think that you slightly overestimate the percentage of Americans who believe Pres. Bush failed to tell the truth, since that&#8217;s an impeachable offense per se.  If this percentage was truly vast, then I think we&#8217;d have an enormous push to begin impeachment proceedings in the House immediately.  I certainly don&#8217;t see that.</p>
<p>To tie both your and JM&#8217;s comments together, maybe things&#8217;ll improve come November of next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16568</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 20:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blowhard and flike

The divisiveness You seems so concerned about is really not as bad as you might suggest we believe. The vast majority of Americans agree that George W. Bush was not telling the truth about events justifying an attack on Iraq. They believe that he was lying. They don&#039;t like that.

Most Americans are aware that this war was Israel&#039;s war, but are cautious talking about saying that, for fear of being labeled &quot;anti-Semitic.&quot;

Not only has the &quot;terrorism card&quot; been shoved down their throats, but also the &quot;anti-Semitic card&quot; has been threatened as well.

John Bolton, our so-called ambassador to the United Nations, has been given orders to pass a resolution that any criticism of Israel is automatically anti-Semitic. { When Israel must stoop to such a measure, you just know they&#039;re expecting some &quot;heat&quot; }.

Actually George W. Bush has been good for America, in that he has exposed what before could not be talked about.

So, not to worry too much about America. Seems as though you have more trouble than we do.
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<p>The divisiveness You seems so concerned about is really not as bad as you might suggest we believe. The vast majority of Americans agree that George W. Bush was not telling the truth about events justifying an attack on Iraq. They believe that he was lying. They don&#8217;t like that.</p>
<p>Most Americans are aware that this war was Israel&#8217;s war, but are cautious talking about saying that, for fear of being labeled &#8220;anti-Semitic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not only has the &#8220;terrorism card&#8221; been shoved down their throats, but also the &#8220;anti-Semitic card&#8221; has been threatened as well.</p>
<p>John Bolton, our so-called ambassador to the United Nations, has been given orders to pass a resolution that any criticism of Israel is automatically anti-Semitic. { When Israel must stoop to such a measure, you just know they&#8217;re expecting some &#8220;heat&#8221; }.</p>
<p>Actually George W. Bush has been good for America, in that he has exposed what before could not be talked about.</p>
<p>So, not to worry too much about America. Seems as though you have more trouble than we do.</p>
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16567</link>
		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>flike,To answer your question, as well as explain things to Ed (Lord knows; he does need that!): If the left are Liars and the right are cowards, than we need more parties from which to choose.

The current two party system won&#039;t and can&#039;t meet the needs of the population of this country. There are too many people out there with some awesome ideas about what should be done to right this wayward ship, but don&#039;t, for obvious reasons, want to get involved in either party.

So what&#039;s the alternative? Force the establishment to recognize the fact that there are other choices, and get their ideas out. Blogs have been a major influence on many political subjects, and they can only do more good.

Myself, I can&#039;t abide by either parties form of cut-throat politics. I want new ideas. I want honesty back in politics. I want people who can lead by example. I want a party that will answer the real life needs of the people. That party used to be the democrats, but they are so tied up in slamming everything they don&#039;t like that they have forgotten the fact that they used to be the party of ideas. They are just as bad as the republicans they hate so much. That&#039;s why I lean more toward the Libertarian party. While I don&#039;t believe in everything they stand for, they have a healthier understanding of what made this country great, and how to get back there.

Want to check out what&#039;s out there?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm&lt;/a&gt;

But the gist of this blog is Secretary of State Condoleezza Tatertots, and the torture this country &#8220;does not permit (wink), tolerate (wink) or condone (wink) torture under any circumstances.&#8221;

How do we stop this travesty of freedom? Vote.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>flike,To answer your question, as well as explain things to Ed (Lord knows; he does need that!): If the left are Liars and the right are cowards, than we need more parties from which to choose.</p>
<p>The current two party system won&#8217;t and can&#8217;t meet the needs of the population of this country. There are too many people out there with some awesome ideas about what should be done to right this wayward ship, but don&#8217;t, for obvious reasons, want to get involved in either party.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the alternative? Force the establishment to recognize the fact that there are other choices, and get their ideas out. Blogs have been a major influence on many political subjects, and they can only do more good.</p>
<p>Myself, I can&#8217;t abide by either parties form of cut-throat politics. I want new ideas. I want honesty back in politics. I want people who can lead by example. I want a party that will answer the real life needs of the people. That party used to be the democrats, but they are so tied up in slamming everything they don&#8217;t like that they have forgotten the fact that they used to be the party of ideas. They are just as bad as the republicans they hate so much. That&#8217;s why I lean more toward the Libertarian party. While I don&#8217;t believe in everything they stand for, they have a healthier understanding of what made this country great, and how to get back there.</p>
<p>Want to check out what&#8217;s out there?  <a href="http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm</a></p>
<p>But the gist of this blog is Secretary of State Condoleezza Tatertots, and the torture this country &ldquo;does not permit (wink), tolerate (wink) or condone (wink) torture under any circumstances.&rdquo;</p>
<p>How do we stop this travesty of freedom? Vote.</p>
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		<title>By: flike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16566</link>
		<dc:creator>flike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most underestimated, perhaps undermeasured, tragedies of our unnecessary rush to war in 2003 is its toxic effect on American civil discourse.  Our body politic seems to be in grave danger, evidenced by current black trends in pop culture (e.g., Syriana) and even the black discourse to be read at this very blog.

The left: Liars!The right: Cowards!

That about sums up our current dysfunction.  Unfortunately it&#039;s not unlimited to Wichita, it&#039;s nationwide.

Who knows how long -- or what -- it will take Americans to overcome this poison?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most underestimated, perhaps undermeasured, tragedies of our unnecessary rush to war in 2003 is its toxic effect on American civil discourse.  Our body politic seems to be in grave danger, evidenced by current black trends in pop culture (e.g., Syriana) and even the black discourse to be read at this very blog.</p>
<p>The left: Liars!The right: Cowards!</p>
<p>That about sums up our current dysfunction.  Unfortunately it&#8217;s not unlimited to Wichita, it&#8217;s nationwide.</p>
<p>Who knows how long &#8212; or what &#8212; it will take Americans to overcome this poison?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16565</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torture degrades us all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture degrades us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16564</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assumption? You said it.

&quot; and this ridiculous two-party system tha has enabled these idiots to get away with the things they do.&quot;

Well, All Mighty Sage, tell us what you mean, if not what you said?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assumption? You said it.</p>
<p>&#8221; and this ridiculous two-party system tha has enabled these idiots to get away with the things they do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, All Mighty Sage, tell us what you mean, if not what you said?</p>
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16563</link>
		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,&quot;Walker, Are you suggesting a one party system?&quot;

Only you could come to that assumption.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,&#8221;Walker, Are you suggesting a one party system?&#8221;</p>
<p>Only you could come to that assumption.</p>
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		<title>By: XXX</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16562</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush will be remembered as the &quot;Pinocchio&quot; of American Presidents.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush will be remembered as the &#8220;Pinocchio&#8221; of American Presidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Galahad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16561</link>
		<dc:creator>Galahad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But really you can&#039;t blame torture for the Bush rush to war.  They tortured ALL the evidence until they got the conclusion they wanted.

A few more--&quot;Looks like you really BUSHED that up.&quot;  &quot;Keep doing that and your name will be BUSH.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But really you can&#8217;t blame torture for the Bush rush to war.  They tortured ALL the evidence until they got the conclusion they wanted.</p>
<p>A few more&#8211;&#8221;Looks like you really BUSHED that up.&#8221;  &#8220;Keep doing that and your name will be BUSH.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Galahad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16560</link>
		<dc:creator>Galahad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lies, damn lies, and then there are Bush officals.

I think we should just turn &quot;Bush&quot; into a new word.  &quot;Don&#039;t BUSH me with that load of crap.&quot;  &quot;Are you trying to BUSH me, man?&quot;  &quot;That&#039;s not true.  Stop BUSHING around!&quot;  &quot;No one&#039;s going to buy that load of BUSH.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lies, damn lies, and then there are Bush officals.</p>
<p>I think we should just turn &#8220;Bush&#8221; into a new word.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t BUSH me with that load of crap.&#8221;  &#8220;Are you trying to BUSH me, man?&#8221;  &#8220;That&#8217;s not true.  Stop BUSHING around!&#8221;  &#8220;No one&#8217;s going to buy that load of BUSH.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16559</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 16:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walker, Are you suggesting a one party system?
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		<title>By: J M Walker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16558</link>
		<dc:creator>J M Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage,Whose fault is it that we now have &quot;political sophistry&quot;, as you put it, elevated to an &quot;art form?&quot;

Doesn&#039;t it boil down to us? After all, we are the ones who put them in office and allowed it to happen. Blaming it on the politicians is, to me, a cop-out.

Politicians don&#039;t elect themselves, it is us, and this ridiculous two-party system tha has enabled these idiots to get away with the things they do.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage,Whose fault is it that we now have &#8220;political sophistry&#8221;, as you put it, elevated to an &#8220;art form?&#8221;</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it boil down to us? After all, we are the ones who put them in office and allowed it to happen. Blaming it on the politicians is, to me, a cop-out.</p>
<p>Politicians don&#8217;t elect themselves, it is us, and this ridiculous two-party system tha has enabled these idiots to get away with the things they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/12/rice_has_more_e/#comment-16557</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage,

Sure, it&#039;s existed since we&#039;ve existed as a species. However, there was a tremendous shift (IMHO) after Nixon&#039;s accession in &#039;68. Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Truman were perceived as being plain-spoken and truthful. In fact, most presidents in the 20th century up to Nixon enjoyed pretty good reputations for competence and honesty. Not so, except perhaps for Carter, AN (after Nixon).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage,</p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s existed since we&#8217;ve existed as a species. However, there was a tremendous shift (IMHO) after Nixon&#8217;s accession in &#8216;68. Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Truman were perceived as being plain-spoken and truthful. In fact, most presidents in the 20th century up to Nixon enjoyed pretty good reputations for competence and honesty. Not so, except perhaps for Carter, AN (after Nixon).</p>
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