Nuclear threat as great as ever

“We are in a race against time,” chief United Nations nuclear inspector Mohamed ElBaradei (in photo) said about efforts to keep nuclear weapons away from terrorists. And he warned during his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech last weekend that the risk of a nuclear disaster is as great as ever. His comments make you wonder if we would be safer now if, instead of invading Iraq, we had spent even 1 percent of the cost the war on helping secure weapons and materials in the former Soviet Union and elsewhere.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee

28 Comments

  1. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 5:16 am | Permalink

    Mohamed ElBaradei may be on the subject, but he still doesn’t get the point.

    The only way to abate the nuclear threat is to stop allowing Israel to threaten the Middle East with nuclear war.

    When cooler heads need to prevail, Israel makes nuclear threats against Iran and the price of gasoline starts its predictable climb. Nuclear war and the higher price of gasoline is the last things the United States should be faced with or needing to contend.

    “Arabs may have the oil but we have the matches” was one of Ariel Sharon’s proud boasts”

    Israel is a rogue State.

    Until the United States comes to an understanding about the monster it has created, there will be no end to the misery Israel will be causing. “George W. Bush, The Moron in Charge” absolutely should be replaced with a real “President of the United States” and deal with the rogue state of Israel in no uncertain terms.

    This Jewish State has no restraints or good judgment, and as a loose canon, unnecessarily threatens each and every one of us.

  2. Emily
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 6:03 am | Permalink

    No, no, Ed. It’s not about Isreal at all. We’re the bully that needs to back off. And even though I agree that we need a real POTUS, our being in the Middle East with armed forces makes US the bully. I agree 100% with Randy. If only we had skipped the invade Iraq part and invested in securing nuclear sites around the world.

  3. kansassam
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 6:36 am | Permalink

    A country the size of New Jersey with a population less than 6.5 million people is NOT the cause of every world problem there ever was. In fact, they appear to show remarkable constraint with neighbors that deny their very existence, take away their holy sites, and vow to eliminate them.

  4. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 6:45 am | Permalink

    The Prime Minster of Israel said: “Arabs may have the oil but we have the matches” was one of Ariel Sharon’s proud boasts”

    How in this world can you be so niave?

    Are you an unconditionalsupporter of Israel?

    Or have you lost any sense of reason?

    Yes, The United States is at fault in two way: One: Supporting and not restraining The Rogue State of Israel, and doing its bidding by invading Iraq.

    Face reality for a change.

    The rest of the world is doing just that.

  5. J M Walker
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 8:02 am | Permalink

    Call me a conditional supporter of Israel: I am for peace, but not at any cost. A country that has been told by its neighbors that it is an abomination to the Muslim religion, and that its destruction is the only way to peace, has every right to stand up and fight for its existence.

    Kansassam is dead on when he says the government of Israel is showing great restraint by not doing more than what they do now.

  6. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Well, Walker, as usual you don’t know what you’talking about.

    Egypt is a Muslim Country, which shares a border and there is peace between Israel and Egypt.

    Jordan is a Muslim country which shares a border with Israel and there is peace between them as well.

    Sharon himself has said: “I can make peace with Syria,” but has chosen to try to destablize Syria instead.

    The Palestinians only want the West Bank and Gaza with east Jerusalem for a capital, which can be done if Israel truly wants peace. They don’t, hence the problem.

    Saudi Arabia has offered a peace with security for Israel, and the Israelis have turned it down, hence another problem.

    The Middle East will settle down if Israel will make peace with the Arabs, they’ve done it with two Arab countrys.

    Whether you approve or not, that’s a fact.

  7. kansassam
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 9:00 am | Permalink

    Ed..I just state my opinions.. I won’t argue with you because from all of your prior posts my opinion is you are the world’s foremost authority on hating Israel.You ever been to Israel? It is an amazing country.How can you make peace with someone who does not recognize your government and wants your people wiped off the earth? You take a reality check Mr Ed.

  8. Damoon
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    Excuse me, but isn’t this thread about the threat of nuclear weapons around the world that aren’t secured?

    Ed, why do you have to turn every discussion into a tirade agaist Israel? Enough already! We get the point.

  9. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    You begin by making peace with the Palestinian Arabs which is the root cause of Arabs hateing Israel.

    Kanasaman, You’re the one who doesn’t want peace because you NEVER offer any way to make that happen.

    You would rather just keep attack me, for even suggesting a peaceful solution.

    That your “cheap way out” Period!

    You’re a fraud.

  10. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Damoon, Isreal is threatening nuclear war, and this thread is about nuclear weapons.

    It’s about what happens when those weapons explode.

  11. Damoon
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Iran, North Korea, China, Pakistan, and India are all developing nuclear weapons. Take your pick as to which one will use them first. Israel is not the only threat.I think I’ll move to Tasmania, maybe I’ll can feel safer there.

  12. dr
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 10:35 am | Permalink

    Right because 15 years after the fall of the soviet union they are a poor nation who has no accounting of their nuclear weapons and secrets….lets give THEM money and TRUST THEM to protect US……That makes alot of sense.

    Maybe the real mistake was that we invaded the wrong country…sounds like IRAN should have been our target first. fine with me. fine with you?

  13. Posted December 13, 2005 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Sure, DR, great idea. Because after all, our invasion and occupation of Iraq has turned out so well, too bad it wasn’t Iran.

    When will you spittle-flecked right wingers ever figure out that you can’t solve complex problems by dropping a bomb on it?

    In your case, dr, apparently never.

  14. kansassam
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Ed..You are just a name-caller. And.. I didn’t attack you, I just pointed out that we don’t have a point to argue because you blame EVERYTHING on Israel.As for peace… I don’t believe there is a solution as long as the Arab countries do not recognize Israel as a legitimate government. THAT would be a start to peace. Oh.. and stop trying to take away their rights to the West Wall.

  15. kansassam
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Damoon…I think the only safe place may be Da Moon!…I truly don’t believe that the nuclear threat comes from legitimate countries with nuclear weapons. Who wants to nuke someona at the risk of having your country turned into a mound of rubble? The REAL threat is the terrorist organizations that have no true “home” to lose, and don’t care if they die anyway!

  16. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    KS

    I’m not name-calling, you’re just compounding being a fraud, which you are. That’s a designation not a name.

    I blame “EVERYTHING” on Israel?

    Does that include “EVERYTHING?

    Now. See how dumb that is?

    Damoon

    In you zeal to protect Israel at all costs from being exposed as a nuclear aggressor, even despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you’re forgetting that only Israel is threatening to use nuclear weapons, and has two German-made submarines equipped to do the job. Are you trying to mislead readers?

    Sharon has said: ” Anytime between now and March,” so, would you like to see the oil fields destroyed, our economy shattered? So, what’s with your undying loyalty? oy vey.

  17. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Ed,Yes… it does seem DUMB…Go back and read all of your old posts on almost every thread and whatever the issue.. it’s Israel’s fault! IMHO. Maybe noone else agrees with my opinion, but it just seems that way to me. If you are being “fair” and “balanced” then I apologize. It’s OK if you don’t like Israel, I just don’t happen to agree with you.—–
    KS

    Again, you’re attacking me, when my posts do not blame Israel for everything. You made that up.

    I do like Israel. I want it to straighten-up.

    The Jewish State can co-exist with the Arab States, because the Arab States have already offered that.

    Nobody is threatening to keep Jews from the wailing wall.

    You’re still being a fraud, what to try for more?

  18. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    Since Rabin was murdered by Zionists, it’s been downhill for Israel all the way.

    The world says Israel is the greatest threat to world peace, because of the current leadership’s attitude.

    That needs changing.

  19. kansassam
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

    Read the news Ed.. the Muslims are saying that the Temple never existed and the Jews have no claim to the West Wall.

    Leaders have threatened to nuke each other for 50 years… it just doesn’t happen. It will be a terrorist organization that sets off the next nuke… Sharon may fight, but not with nukes because he would lose US support.

    As for being a fraud… you made that up.

  20. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 13, 2005 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    KS

    I do read the news, certainly not the garbage that suits your needs.

    Wake-up and smell the coffee, my zionist friend, it would serve you well.

    Oil traders seem to think that you don’t know what you’re talking about. I wish you did, It would make a bad situation much better.

    As for you being a fraud, well, you just keep on making my case for me.Try reality, it might help your thinking.

  21. kansassam
    Posted December 14, 2005 at 5:13 am | Permalink

    You are too funny Ed.. it’s almost like you really believe yourself. You are pretty good at attaching labels to people you don’t know anything about.Let’s see… I’m a zionist… I’m a fraud… I’m out of touch with reality, and I read garbage, not news. Would you care to present your case for each and every point to all the good people? You have none because you don’t know anything about me.. and when you can’t argue your case, you resort to labeling and name calling.When was the last time you were in Israel and witnessed the political climate first hand? Do you know what it’s like to walk on the Temple Mount knowing you can’t carry a Bible or kneel to pray? I do. How many oil people do you know personally? I grew up in the oil fields Ed. I generally don’t comment on issues that I don’t have some personal experience with, and I don’t post as some sort of expert. Just opinions Ed… I’m not even a political person… I don’t know why my humble opinions make you so defensive. Rest easy.. I’m way too busy with issues right here in River City to be a zionist….

  22. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 14, 2005 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Well, you’d fool me.

  23. Damoon
    Posted December 14, 2005 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Ed, I understand the concern about Israel. If you’ve read any of my previous posts, you’d know I’m not in favor of our country propping up their military. I understand the frustration of the Palestinians. Our support of Israel is one of the main reasons we’re are target for terrorists.But, I just think Israel is not the only threat, any country with nuclear weapons that doesn’t value human rights or human life is a threat.I think I WILL go to “Da moon”!

  24. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 14, 2005 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Damoon

    The Israeli threat is a clear and present danger, by its leaders words.

    Watching oil futures move still upward and the price of gold also, are very bad indicators by people who analyze threat assessments with great skill.

    The propaganda which we get is of no real value, but those indicators I’ve listed tend to be very reliable.

    The United States and the Soviet Union were both resposible in handeling nuclear weapons.

    All except some 13% of Israelis want to destroy Iran.

    You can’t kill Arabs everyday, which Israel does, and expect a negotiated solution. The President of The United States is not controlling world events to America’s best interests, he is allowing “others” to do that.

    This is not a good thing.

  25. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 14, 2005 at 10:04 am | Permalink

    Damoon

    http://www.wtrg.com/daily/crudeoilprice.html#Crude

  26. kansassam
    Posted December 14, 2005 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Damoon..Ed may be right that it is not a good thing that America does not control world events any longer, and it would not be a good thing if Israel is provoked to fighting. But… it doesn’t help either when you have Iran pressing all the “hate the West” buttons.

    http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/13403627.htm

  27. Damoon
    Posted December 14, 2005 at 9:17 pm | Permalink

    I worry more about Iran having nukes than Israel. At least we still have some influence over Israel. Our credibility and influence is lost on everyone else.

  28. Ed Friedemann
    Posted December 15, 2005 at 5:25 am | Permalink

    We have no influence over Israel thanks to AIPAC putting their people into congress.

    Rice and Bush, after sucking-up to AIPAC told that group that over 500 meeting were scheduled with members of congress. During those meetings members of congress are told how to vote in order to be reelected { many are bribed }. And that is why AIPAC should be classified as an agent of a foreign power and not a lobby.

    Also Israelis are allowed to vote in American elections, but American are not allowed to vote in Israeli elections unless you are of the Jewish race.

    Israel is not a democracy, but rather a rouge racist State. Doesn’t America frown on “Racism?”