Comments on: Six executions riding on Kline’s powers of persuasion

By: Midge

Midge — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:45:39 +0000

All six may be guilty of something, but maybe one or more aren’t guilty of capital murder. We know Marsh didn’t get a fair trial and even if the US Supreme Court says the DP statute is constitutional, he still gets a new trial. I predict the Carr brother’s will get new trials. The judge made a reversible error. He should never allowed the two to be tried together. They had adverse defenses. So, we know the county and state are going to have to spend more money on a new Marsh trial and probably have to spend more money on a new Carr trial, just because the judge’s didn’t follow the law. Look at what the system is doing to the victims families. It’s a shame.

By: Todd

Todd — Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:19:57 +0000

Which of the 6 death row inmates do you think may be innocent? Any of them? Even one?

By: Falcone

Falcone — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:29:04 +0000

What Ed said.There’s always a worst case, and Carrs are it. Yeah, I’m against capitol punishment, but I’m human and I admit I won’t loose a lot of sleep if the Carr brothers get offed. There’s an argument for putting mad dogs down. But it’s a fact that in America, you get the best justice money can buy (some other poster said that). There’s just too many cases where people on death row are being freed after new evidence proves them innocent. It’s also damned expensive to execute someone. It costs far more to perform an execution than to lock someone forever. That said, I think an arguement could be made for making prison a lot more unplesant so it’s not just “3 hots and a cot”. I didn’t think “Hard labor” was such a bad thing. Let’s bring back chain gangs and busting rocks.

By: Ed Friedemann

Ed Friedemann — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:23:41 +0000

The issue is not whether those who deserve to die should, but those who don’t, but were convicted anyway, should also die.

The hell with the quilty, the sooner dead the better, but what about the innocent?

I don’t like the restrictions placed on the innocent going free.

That needs to be fixed.

By: Todd

Todd — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:57:49 +0000

Absolutely, James. It is amazing to me that anybody gives executing scum like Reginald Carr and his poor idiot brother a second thought. It should have been done the day after they were convicted.

By: james

james — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:02:33 +0000

Whadda ya think, Falcone? Think the Carr Boys deserve three hots and a cot and guaranteed protection, for the rest of their lives?

They should have been taken out and shot!

By: james

james — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:18:55 +0000

Falcone, you could be totally, totally wrong. So, what’s your point?

By: Falcone

Falcone — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:55:31 +0000

James, you’re kind of stuck on the Carr Bros, aint cha? I would imagine you claim to be pro life…..

By: Jed

Jed — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:21:08 +0000

Ed,Yup!

By: james

james — Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:42:56 +0000

Uuuhh, And the Carr Brothers don’t deserve it,—-Right?

By: Falcone

Falcone — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:08:17 +0000

Most civilized countries in the world don’t do capitol punishment. Good post, Moderate Republican.

By: Todd

Todd — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:03:50 +0000

Everybody in prison is innocent. Just ask them.

By: Ed Friedemann

Ed Friedemann — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:20:35 +0000

Jed

Well, that’s one too many.

By: Jed

Jed — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:05:19 +0000

Ed,Have no idea, but probability suggests at least some.

By: Ed Friedemann

Ed Friedemann — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:00:20 +0000

Hammertime

Is the USA next in the dock?

By: Ed Friedemann

Ed Friedemann — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:58:31 +0000

Jed

How many didn’t do it?

By: Jed

Jed — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:56:08 +0000

I just heard that the 1000th execution since the death penalty was reinstated in ‘76 will happen sometime this week. I can just see the banners and balloons tied to the gurney, and maybe the condemned could win a free headstone!

By: Hammertime

Hammertime — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:45:17 +0000

Midge/MR:

Stay tuned to Suddam Hussein’s trial. Let’s see how the new government in Iraq- supported by the USA, handles his sentence if he’s found guilty.

By: Moderate Republican

Moderate Republican — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:06:47 +0000

Interesting that some can speak of death so freely. It smells of vigilantism. That was never a good way. In the past, society has been a lot freer in dispensing death. How about the Oxbow Incident? I imagine that most in that posse had decided that those men didn’t deserve to live. That wasn’t such a good decision, was it? How about the Rosenbergs (executed by the state for allegedly giving atomic bomb secrets to the Russians)?

As a society, we need to get over such archaic punishment and move on. There are horrendously brutal people out there in the world who don’t care about the lives of others. We need to be prepared for the possibility of the defense of our lives to the death. But we shouldn’t be as they are. When the deed is done and the criminal is captured, the place for them is in a prison, not to be put to death.

By: Ed Friedemann

Ed Friedemann — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:40:17 +0000

You’re both right.

By: Midge

Midge — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:36:12 +0000

Hammertime: Tell the man in Kansas City that has spent the last 8 years of his life in prison for being wrongly convicted of killing his wife because the lab messed up the DNA and tell his children that DNA testing is foolproof. Nothing is foolproof. If someone killed my child, I’d want to kill them myself. But, I wouldn’t because there is a line between being a killer and not being a killer. I won’t cross that line.

By: Hammertime

Hammertime — Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:38:35 +0000

Midge,

Face it, some people just ain’t no damn good!

By: Hammertime

Hammertime — Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:36:05 +0000

Midge,

With all due respect, it’s pretty lame to propose allowing vicious, brutal murderers to live just because one might convict the wrong person. To personalize it using the anology of the wrongly accused being my kids, is really grasping for straws. Sheeze, give me a break.

How many innocent people are dying in Iraq right now in the name of freedom and democracy? Are you saying that we shouldn’t kill terrorist because we might kill the wrong person? Innocent people die all the time for the betterment of mankind- it goes with the territory.

Another point… with the all the advancement in DNA testing- proving guilt BEYOND a reasonable doubt, is virtually fool proof.

Sorry, I just don’t buy the worn out argument that it might be the wrong person, so we shouldn’t punish anyone.

Maybe you should to talk to some of the victims of these monsters.

By: Todd

Todd — Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:19:20 +0000

Midge, what if YOUR child had been robbed, raped, and murdered, along with all thier friends, by Reginald Carr? Would you at last admit that some people simply don’t deserve to live? Somehow, I doubt you’d be so forgiving.

By: Dudley D

Dudley D — Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:53:06 +0000

Keep in mind that voters in Kansas have the ability to send a message in the event of a court decision they deeply disagree with. Kansas Supreme Court justices come up for a retention vote every 6 years. If a majority vote not to retain a justice, they are off the court.

The majority who voted to strike down the death penalty are Justices Allegruci, Luckert, Bier, and Gernon. Gernon is no longer on the court.