Having suggested the bombing of the U.S. State Department and the assassination of the Venezuelan president, Pat Robertson shouldn’t be able to surprise us so easily anymore. But his reaction to the pro-evolution results of Tuesday’s school board election in Dover, Pa., was absurd: "I’d like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don’t turn to God. You just rejected him from your city." Speaking on his "700 Club" TV show, Robertson also said, "If they have future problems in Dover, I recommend they call on Charles Darwin. Maybe he can help them."
Following Robertson’s train of illogic, Kansans are in good with God right now, as of our state school board’s vote this week. But if Kansas voters should change the balance of power on the board next year, we’re all doomed. What a guy.
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I guess God has a sense of humor, because everybody is laughing at us.
What’s he gonna say when the next monster hurricaine flattens his Virginia Beach complex? God missed?
Pat Robertson is now “Chief-of-Staff” for God?
Robertson is telling us which places he will allow God to be present?
Robertson is insane.
Don’t you just love the logical and ethical inconsistencies of arguments like Pat’s? So, let’s assume a hurricane is bearing down on Florida. Floridians earnestly repent and pray that the hurricane won’t hit them. The urricane ‘miraculously’ changes course and devastates North Carolina. So I guess God has primary and secondary targets set up before he sends a calamity. Next, imagine that in spite of all the praying the hurricane STILL hits Florida. Does that mean that God will punish good and repentant people along with the baddies? Didn’t God say he’d save Soddom and Gomorrah if 10 upright people could be found in each? Doesn’t God have anything but a sledgehammer? Couldn’t He cause a few heart attacks and strokes maybe?
Oh, and since God has a ‘plan’ isn’t everything that happens part of the plan? Isn’t the Dover vote EXACTLY what was supposed to happen?
Someone will now trot out free will and say we have choices. Sigh..you can’t have an omniscient, omnipotent God with a plan for all eternity and then claim we’re all free to act in whatever way we want.
try these for fun.
http://www.philosophyquotes.net/cgi-bin/god_game1.cgi?num=0&hits=0&bullets=0&bulletcount=0&hitcount=0
http://www.philosophersnet.com/games/whatisgod.htm
pat robertson, the poster boy for the religious right.
Poster boy for the religious right? Hardly. He’s the poster boy for the pagan left.
A poster boy for the pagan left? What asylum do you live in? Pat Robertson belongs to the republicans; he’s all yours. I think he’s pretty representitave of the republicans as a whole. He sure put the lie to the nonsense that ID isn’t about religion, didn’t he?
Pat Robertson actually believes he has God on his side. Case in point, a year or two back he stated on his program that it was time for all faithful (ie. his followers) to pray that the “liberal” supreme court justices will fall ill and move aside so Bush could put good “Christian Conservative” judges in and sway Roe vs. Wade. When Rehnquist died, he thought his prayer scheme worked.When there was a gay parade set for New Orleans, hurricane Katrina hit just days before the parade…his prayers were answered again.So Robertson thinks he is on a roll! He now truly believes he has a direct line to God.Fruit punch, anyone?
Jana,I’m praying just as hard as I can for Pat to fall over dead. I know my prayer will be answered sometime, whether I pray for it or not!
A couple of years ago he predicted death and destruction on Orlando because Disney World hosted a gay week or something.
And there stands Orlando, the modern day Sodom, unscathed by God’s wrath.
Go figure . . .
Galahad,No doubt someday something will happen in Orlando that will make him appear vindicated to somebody. Keep your predictions vague enough, and something’s bound to happen sometime, somewhere, that’ll sound like it. Worked for Nostradamus!
For Robertson life is so precious. But he’s all for killing soldiers, foreign leaders, and innocent civilians.
How does he reconcile himself.
Ed,He’s Pat Robertson! As the ultimate authority on everything, he doesn’t need to reconcile himself!
It’s called “magical thinking”, believing because of some action you performed that something supernatural happened. It’s a symptom of schizophrenia or narcissistic personality disorder. Pat is a narcissist if ever there was one.
It’s called “magical thinking”, believing because of some action you performed that something supernatural happened. It’s a symptom of schizophrenia or narcissistic personality disorder. Pat is a narcissist if ever there was one.
oops! The dreaded double post!
That is the danger of this man. He has the ear of millions of “believers”. He has some real influence…and he is nuts and becoming nuttier by the day. The fact is that CBN has followers that believe in Robertson’s word as much as what is in the bible.
Jana…Just so you don’t lose total faith.. I’m a believer… I hear what Pat has to say… and I think he’s a nut case too! I don’t think God really gives a rip who is on the Kansas School Board!
Let’s face it folks. Pat Robertson is a total and complete nutball. Unfortunately, he is a very popular and very dangerous nutball. I do think that it would be proper for all you believers out there to pray that something would happen that would totally discredit this man and take all the “wind out of his sails” before he calls his believers into action. Last thing we need is an American jihad led by a nutcase like him.
God as the punisher of what some men see as other mens and womens sins is a very old idea. It’s as old as prejudice and as timeless as self righteousness.
Of course, Pat Robertson is the same man who called 911 divine punishment for the sins of America. I think he also inferred the wrath of God on the victims of hurricane Katrina. I guess all the “good Christians” that died in those tragedies just got in the way, or maybe they were weiged in the balance and found expendable to “the greater good”
Forgive me fellow posters. I’ll not be in good form tonight. And for awhile, this is my final post.
I am a regular here. Most other regulars know me as an avowed atheist. Questions of God are particulary relevant to me here lately though.
My father always fought for the little guy. He was a crew chief in his job who stood up to management for the workers he supervised. Though bright and very capable, he eschewed promotion to upper management. He was active in the union and as far as anyone knows the ONLY crew chief who was also a union steward. Regular posters here will no doubt note his influence on me. He did not have my gift for words. But all of my words originate from him.
Dad wasn’t an atheist. I was not raised so. Dad never became active in the church until just recently. It gave him some form of comfort and belonging, even as his two atheist sons continued to ridicule for him not his faith, but the hypocrisy that is much of religion. He laughed with us at such as Robertson and Falwell, Wright and Fox. But he maintained his own faith and never judged anyone. Though he pleaded for his wife, (my mother) to join the church that they attended, he did not hold it against her that she simply “didn’t feel right” doing so.
My father is fading from us now. As recently as June he was fine. By August he was using a walker. 3 weeks ago he could barely stand. Now he is bedridden in the hospital. He knows his family only intermittently, though we try to stay at his side as much as possible. He is mostly incoherent. He is not in pain thankfully and seems at peace, rising only above the increasing delirium that the doctors cannot relieve or find answer for only when he senses our fear or anxiety. He brightened also for the pastor of his church of choice, who visited him in the hospital. Family was not there for the visit, but Dad recounted it to us. Clearly it was importnat to him.
Now I guess some such as pat Robertson might say that my Dad was being set as an example to his “errant” family, unjust as that is on its very surface. (Sort of like condemning an entire community for the “sins”of the few.) But my fathers pastor did not rebuke him. He did not call out to us that My Dads decline was the result of our failing. He simply visited with him and made him feel better. The church prayed for him. They did not assign account to me, my brother, or my Mom.
For those who do have the faith that they have a personal channel to God? I could use your help just now. I’ll take whatever help my Dad can get. Just don’t tell me my Dad has to suffer ’cause I’m wrong.
For the rest of my fellow bloggers, in your prayers, your good wishes or whatever you have, if my words here or in any post have in any way done some good or caused some pause for thought, please thank me with your good thoughts and best wishes for my Dad.
In his last visit to his neurologist, my Dad was asked to write a sentence. He wrote, “Now is the time to gather good things” I don’t know what that is from or where he happened on it. But it’s where I’m at now and will be for him.
In Hope, for Troy Rimel by writ of son Jay Rimel and family.
Jay..A father would give anything for his sons to believe as he does. Sometimes that just doesn’t happen, but what I feel you can do for him now is cling to the hope that he has. Even if you cannot believe… acknowledge that you hope for him and hope with him, and you will give him what he needs. These are never easy times, believer or not, but I will pray for your father, that he will find peace, his suffering will ease, and that his hope will sustain you and your family, and that somehow through all of this just maybe you will get a glimpse of God.
Take away that tax exempt status and watch him change his tune.
Jay,Sounds like your father is a man to be proud of, a fine example of what it means to be human! My thoughts are with you.Jed
The Ayatollah Robertson is a good example of why it is important not to allow a Taliban-style government here in the United States. Keep church and state separate; keep both the Ayatollahs and the politicians limited.
JR, You are very lucky in that you have a father who has truly loved you and obviously has been an important influence in your life. Even though your father may not be able to respond, please tell him how much he means to you. Often people who are unresponsive can still hear what others are saying to them. Telling him how you feel will help you find peace after he is gone.My thoughts are with you during this difficult time.
JR…Haven’t heard from you in awhile… you are still in our thoughts. Take care of yourself and your family.
Take away some of that tax exempt status he enjoys. Separation of church and state doesn’t seem to apply any more. Any religious group that advocates a political agenda should lose the tax exemptions.
JR my thoughts are with you also.My father is quadriplegic, on a ventilator and has been for 11 years, so I can relate to what you’re going through. He was just getting ready to retire when he broke his neck at C1. So he’s had a tough time. I’m sure there’s times he’s prayed for the ultimate healing, and he’s even asked me to unplug the vent before. Prayers be with you.
You are so right, Guy. Any religious organization that preaches politics should lose their tax exemption. They’d be doing us all a favor if they’d stick to the business of God, not government.