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	<title>Comments on: If it looks and sounds like torture . . .</title>
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		<title>By: Mr. Turner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11574</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To dehumanize someone is the only way to make it easy to kill them.

&quot;Your either with US or your aginst US&quot;. GWB

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To dehumanize someone is the only way to make it easy to kill them.</p>
<p>&#8220;Your either with US or your aginst US&#8221;. GWB</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11573</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s strange how the &quot;enemy&quot; is a faceless contrivance without name or affilation. Al Quaeda? Guess again: Our troops were ordered to do nothing when they escaped into Pakistan.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange how the &#8220;enemy&#8221; is a faceless contrivance without name or affilation. Al Quaeda? Guess again: Our troops were ordered to do nothing when they escaped into Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11572</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 19:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turner

First: the &quot;enemy&quot; is not the &quot;enemy&quot; they are the people of Iraq, who we have attacked and been murderinhg.

Second: The Iraqis do not have weapons anywhere near what we have, so they use whatever they can, sometimes themselves { We did that at the battle of Midway with our Dive-bombers }

And we are not playng by the rules we should be, they just found 173 Iraqis under our &quot;headquaters&quot; in Baghdad, badly tortured.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turner</p>
<p>First: the &#8220;enemy&#8221; is not the &#8220;enemy&#8221; they are the people of Iraq, who we have attacked and been murderinhg.</p>
<p>Second: The Iraqis do not have weapons anywhere near what we have, so they use whatever they can, sometimes themselves { We did that at the battle of Midway with our Dive-bombers }</p>
<p>And we are not playng by the rules we should be, they just found 173 Iraqis under our &#8220;headquaters&#8221; in Baghdad, badly tortured.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Turner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 18:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its strange that we keep insisting on haveing rules of engagement with an enemy that has no such rules.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its strange that we keep insisting on haveing rules of engagement with an enemy that has no such rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11570</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage,At the moment, codie&#039;s torturing however many people read his posts!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage,At the moment, codie&#8217;s torturing however many people read his posts!</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11569</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, codie, how many people have you tortured lately (just curious)?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, codie, how many people have you tortured lately (just curious)?</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11568</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Liberals are coming! The Liberals are coming!

(stirring patriotic music rises. . . )
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Liberals are coming! The Liberals are coming!</p>
<p>(stirring patriotic music rises. . . )</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11567</link>
		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these techniques for gathering information are not torture, maybe grand juries investigating the various political scandals in Washington should be using them on the people who approved their use!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these techniques for gathering information are not torture, maybe grand juries investigating the various political scandals in Washington should be using them on the people who approved their use!</p>
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		<title>By: Falcone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11566</link>
		<dc:creator>Falcone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberal attacks? My goodness, does that happen often where you live? Do you have lots of guns and stuff?

I&#039;d think concrete and rebar would be better protection from tornadoes than soundproofing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberal attacks? My goodness, does that happen often where you live? Do you have lots of guns and stuff?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d think concrete and rebar would be better protection from tornadoes than soundproofing.</p>
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		<title>By: codie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11565</link>
		<dc:creator>codie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sound proof room is for tornadoes and liberal attacks.I only torture for revenge at the death of loved ones.  What would you do, sing coom by ya to the killers?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sound proof room is for tornadoes and liberal attacks.I only torture for revenge at the death of loved ones.  What would you do, sing coom by ya to the killers?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11564</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wishful thinking.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wishful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Falcone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11563</link>
		<dc:creator>Falcone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the kind of person who&#039;d torture a puppy, bind it with wire, and leave it in a trash bin. I wonder why anybody would have a sound proof room in the basement. Hearing tests?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the kind of person who&#8217;d torture a puppy, bind it with wire, and leave it in a trash bin. I wonder why anybody would have a sound proof room in the basement. Hearing tests?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11562</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rage, You&#039;re pickin&#039; on my little buddy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rage, You&#8217;re pickin&#8217; on my little buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rage</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11561</link>
		<dc:creator>Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been known for centuries that torture is useless if you want reliable information. On the other hand, if you &quot;know&quot; they&#039;re guilty (or at least need a warm body to scapegoat), torture works great at producing a &quot;confession.&quot;

I didn&#039;t really expect anyone to be as honest as codie, and openly endorse the obvious schadenfraude aspect of it.

The Marquis de Roberts (R-NoseupBush&#039;sbutt) seems to agree. And, hey, liberals!: Brownback did the right thing, for a change. You should thank him, if you can stand to do so.

P.S. Hey, codie: How about Chinese water torture, only with battery acid? We got some fun now, huh?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been known for centuries that torture is useless if you want reliable information. On the other hand, if you &#8220;know&#8221; they&#8217;re guilty (or at least need a warm body to scapegoat), torture works great at producing a &#8220;confession.&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really expect anyone to be as honest as codie, and openly endorse the obvious schadenfraude aspect of it.</p>
<p>The Marquis de Roberts (R-NoseupBush&#8217;sbutt) seems to agree. And, hey, liberals!: Brownback did the right thing, for a change. You should thank him, if you can stand to do so.</p>
<p>P.S. Hey, codie: How about Chinese water torture, only with battery acid? We got some fun now, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11560</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Start with bugs.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Start with bugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Falcone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11559</link>
		<dc:creator>Falcone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quantities of pig blood and a sound proof room in the basement? Looks like we got a live one here.

Codie, do you have any pets?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quantities of pig blood and a sound proof room in the basement? Looks like we got a live one here.</p>
<p>Codie, do you have any pets?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11558</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you know what you&#039;re doing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you know what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: codie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11557</link>
		<dc:creator>codie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I caught someone trying to blow up my friends or family I think I would improvise.  I have access to quantities of pig blood and have a sound proof room in the basement.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I caught someone trying to blow up my friends or family I think I would improvise.  I have access to quantities of pig blood and have a sound proof room in the basement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Friedemann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11556</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Friedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have a favorite torture?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a favorite torture?</p>
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		<title>By: codie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11555</link>
		<dc:creator>codie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any proof of US condoned torture?  Of course not.  Individual soldiers, after seeing hundreds of civilians blown up by terrorists, might go a bit overboard.  But if caught they are in deep trouble.Some of our enemies may be afraid of being tortured.  They are very aware of the pain involved since they are experts.  Why should we calm their fears and make it easier for them to do &#039;their job&#039;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any proof of US condoned torture?  Of course not.  Individual soldiers, after seeing hundreds of civilians blown up by terrorists, might go a bit overboard.  But if caught they are in deep trouble.Some of our enemies may be afraid of being tortured.  They are very aware of the pain involved since they are experts.  Why should we calm their fears and make it easier for them to do &#8216;their job&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Damoon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.kansas.com/weblog/2005/11/if_it_looks_and/#comment-11554</link>
		<dc:creator>Damoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said before, the administration presenting a different spin doesn&#039;t change the facts.America has lost it&#039;s soul.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said before, the administration presenting a different spin doesn&#8217;t change the facts.America has lost it&#8217;s soul.</p>
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