CIA Director Porter Goss has denied that his agency engages in torture, but he recently told USA Today that they do use “unique and innovative ways” to gather information.
The Washington Post, in an editorial headlined “Director for Torture,” said these techniques include beatings and “waterboarding” — strapping the detainee to a board, wrapping his face in cellophane and pouring water over him to instill a drowning sensation. The editorial rightly argued that this administration is setting a new (low) standard for human rights, and asked, “If an American pilot is captured in the Middle East, then beaten, held naked in a cold cell and subjected to simulated drowning, will Mr. Goss say that he has not been tortured?”
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Like I said before, the administration presenting a different spin doesn’t change the facts.America has lost it’s soul.
Any proof of US condoned torture? Of course not. Individual soldiers, after seeing hundreds of civilians blown up by terrorists, might go a bit overboard. But if caught they are in deep trouble.Some of our enemies may be afraid of being tortured. They are very aware of the pain involved since they are experts. Why should we calm their fears and make it easier for them to do ‘their job’?
Do you have a favorite torture?
If I caught someone trying to blow up my friends or family I think I would improvise. I have access to quantities of pig blood and have a sound proof room in the basement.
Sounds like you know what you’re doing.
Quantities of pig blood and a sound proof room in the basement? Looks like we got a live one here.
Codie, do you have any pets?
Start with bugs.
It’s been known for centuries that torture is useless if you want reliable information. On the other hand, if you “know” they’re guilty (or at least need a warm body to scapegoat), torture works great at producing a “confession.”
I didn’t really expect anyone to be as honest as codie, and openly endorse the obvious schadenfraude aspect of it.
The Marquis de Roberts (R-NoseupBush’sbutt) seems to agree. And, hey, liberals!: Brownback did the right thing, for a change. You should thank him, if you can stand to do so.
P.S. Hey, codie: How about Chinese water torture, only with battery acid? We got some fun now, huh?
Rage, You’re pickin’ on my little buddy.
Sounds like the kind of person who’d torture a puppy, bind it with wire, and leave it in a trash bin. I wonder why anybody would have a sound proof room in the basement. Hearing tests?
wishful thinking.
Sound proof room is for tornadoes and liberal attacks.I only torture for revenge at the death of loved ones. What would you do, sing coom by ya to the killers?
Liberal attacks? My goodness, does that happen often where you live? Do you have lots of guns and stuff?
I’d think concrete and rebar would be better protection from tornadoes than soundproofing.
If these techniques for gathering information are not torture, maybe grand juries investigating the various political scandals in Washington should be using them on the people who approved their use!
The Liberals are coming! The Liberals are coming!
(stirring patriotic music rises. . . )
By the way, codie, how many people have you tortured lately (just curious)?
Rage,At the moment, codie’s torturing however many people read his posts!
Its strange that we keep insisting on haveing rules of engagement with an enemy that has no such rules.
Turner
First: the “enemy” is not the “enemy” they are the people of Iraq, who we have attacked and been murderinhg.
Second: The Iraqis do not have weapons anywhere near what we have, so they use whatever they can, sometimes themselves { We did that at the battle of Midway with our Dive-bombers }
And we are not playng by the rules we should be, they just found 173 Iraqis under our “headquaters” in Baghdad, badly tortured.
It’s strange how the “enemy” is a faceless contrivance without name or affilation. Al Quaeda? Guess again: Our troops were ordered to do nothing when they escaped into Pakistan.
To dehumanize someone is the only way to make it easy to kill them.
“Your either with US or your aginst US”. GWB