Downward mobility in France

It’s deeply unsettling to see riots and violence spreading like wildfire across France, with a second week of angry mobs torching cars and battling police in the suburbs of Paris as well as many other French towns.
French politicians have been remarkably tone-deaf and ineffectual in dealing with this crisis. What they seem unable to face: The civil unrest is fueled by years of official French neglect of large Arab and African immigrant communities who find themselves segregated in urban ghettoes with few opportunities for upward mobility.
The French pride themselves on championing liberte, egalite et fraternite, but the riots are a cautionary tale about the dangers of tolerating a huge gap between ideals and practice in social policy.
That said, there is something equally disturbing and dangerous at work here: The failure of European governments to deal firmly with militant Islamic communities who have no intention of assimilating to secular democratic society in countries like France, Germany and the Netherlands.
The social failure plays into the militants’ hands.
Posted by Randy Scholfield

19 Comments

  1. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 5:31 am | Permalink

    When you treat people like dirt, in this case mostly Muslims, this rioting is to be expected. Remember that we’re murdering these people relatives and advertising that we’re not even bothering to count their dead bodies.

    That’s not the way to win friends and influence people.

    The original “Watts” riots, years ago in America are almost a carbon copy of what’s taking place in France.

    With America leading the way, with prompting from our “Israeli friends” in the art of the butchery of human beings, it’s not all that difficult to understand what we’ve set in motion, worldwide.

    Just take a look at what we’ve failed to stop from happening to the Palestinians.

    If we force the Zionists back behind the Green-line, tear-down the “wall” and make Jerusalem a shared International City, stop Israeli aggression, form a viable Palestinian State, the world will settle back peaceably.

    Isn’t that what superpowers are suppose to do?

  2. Joe Blow
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 6:04 am | Permalink

    Ahhh, I see, it’s all the governments fault, these poor rioters bear no responsibility at all. Oh, if Randy and Ed would get in a rowboat and head towards France!!

  3. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    Randy

    If we’re going to be in a rowboat headed toward France, these are the rules.

    First: I steer and you row.

    Second: You row and I steer.

  4. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Oh, We’ll tie a rope around Joe’s neck and he can be the anchor.

  5. Ray Thomas
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Once again, “Ed” is demonstrating his ignorance. The Wats (he can’t even spell right) riots had nothing to do with Muslims, were localized in one LA neighborhood instead of spread out over 200 towns, were sparked by an traffic stop, and have a myriad of causes.To oversimplify something as complex as urban riots is to be expected from a simple minded person who blames every problem in the world on Israel.By the way, “Ed”, were the recent hurricanes also Israel’s fault?

  6. Joe Williams
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 8:40 am | Permalink

    I thought socialism was to stop all of this. Don’t they have free health care?

  7. NoJoCo
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    Ed, Keep in mind that most people know who wrote your posts by reading the first sentence and thus skip over your crap.

    Have a nice day.

  8. NoJoCo
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Ed, Keep in mind that most people know who wrote your posts by reading the first sentence and thus skip over your crap.

    Have a nice day.

  9. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    Wats is spelled with one “t” and nobody is accusing Israel of causing hurricanes.

    The world, however, is holding Israel as: “Israel is the greatest threat to world peace.”Our homegrown ignoramus “Ray” doesn’t seem to argue well, but that’s to be expected from died-in-the-wool supporters of the butchery of Zionist Israel.

    America, as a consequence of its association with that rogue state has come away with even more of its bad habits:

    RAI, the all news state-run satellite channel in Italy, aired a documentary Tuesday that accused the United States of using chemical weapons against the civilian population during a November 2004 bombardment of Fallujah. AKI, the Italian news agency, reports that the documentary, entitled “Fallujah: The Hidden Massacre” and aired on the first aniversary of the assault on insurgents in Fallujah, includes interviews with former US soldiers and with residents of Fallujah who say that during the assault on the city the US military used the chemical white phosphorus.

    “I heard the order being issued to be careful because white phosphorus was being used on Fallujah. In military slang this is known as Willy Pete. Phosphorus burns bodies, melting the flesh right down to the bone,” says one former US solider, interviewed by the documentary’s director, Sigfrido Ranucci.”I saw the burned bodies of women and children. The phosophorous explodes and forms a plume. Who ever is within a 150 metre radius has no hope,” the former soldier adds.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1108/dailyUpdate.html?s=mesdu

  10. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    What’s with this self-imposed: “Most People status?”

    Is that “The National Association of Dimwits?”

    Do you have any idea how much you really don’t matter?

    Oh, the Wats reference was intended to indicate how the frustration of disenfranchised people sometimes just explodes into riots.

    Is that over your head or are you able to manage that?

  11. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

    What’s with this self-imposed: “Most People status?”

    Is that “The National Association of Dimwits?”

    Do you have any idea how much you really don’t matter?

    Oh, the Wats reference was intended to indicate how the frustration of disenfranchised people sometimes just explodes into riots.

    Is that over your head or are you able to manage that?

  12. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    The facts dictate:

    Bush has no interest in the opinion or values of the American People.

    Bush’s only interest is in the moral degenerates running Zionist Israel.

    The United States Senate should immediately throw Bush out of office.

    Write your Senator every hour until that treasonous Bush is gone.

    Once removed, he should be charged with war-crimes and Treason.

  13. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

    It’s “Watts”.Of course I offer proof:

    http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=watts+riots&btnG=Google+Search

  14. XXX
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    It’s “Watts”.Of course I offer proof:

    http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=watts+riots&btnG=Google+Search

  15. Ed Friedemann
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 4:27 pm | Permalink

    XXX

    I tried to throw him a bone, and steer him back on subject, now you ran off with that.

  16. J W`Walker
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 10:12 pm | Permalink

    The Watt riots and the riots taking place in France had nothing in common. You’re comparing apples and oranges by trying to do so. So I’ll skip that nonsense.

    France has declared us to be uncivilized, because of the so-called riots after Katrina, among other things. How charming. Now, it seems, they have their own cross to bare. It will be most interesting to see how this “civilized” country handles the mess they got themselves into.

    France is supposedly a country that embraces all different cultures, religions and ethnicities. Evidently, this particular religion doesn’t embrace them.

    Or could it be that the Muslims have a different agenda? Like, maybe, Europe? I have a feeling that this will not stop in France, but spread to other European countries. Spain is the most likely next on the list, although Italy is at the top, also.

  17. ID
    Posted November 8, 2005 at 11:13 pm | Permalink

    Poor ol’ Jacques. UN Oil for Food scandal and now the riots. Maybe he should have kept the food for his illegal aliens.

  18. Sum1
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 4:57 am | Permalink

    30 years ago France wanted these immigrants because they needed a work force. The France citizens didnt’ want to do the lowpaying jobs.Now think of America.

    We want a worker program so we can bring in immigrants to do the jobs Americans don’t want.

    Will we be in the same shoes as France in 30 years?

  19. Sum1
    Posted November 9, 2005 at 5:00 am | Permalink

    I agree Ed.. in the end Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield should all be up on war crimes.