An intelligence report from February 2002 said that an al-Qaida prisoner likely was intentionally misleading interrogators in claiming that Iraq trained al-Qaida members to use biological and chemical weapons. Yet months later, President Bush and other administration officials used these claims, without any qualifications, in making their case for why the United States needed to invade Iraq.
Reliance on such highly suspect intelligence information — and there are other examples — needs to be the focus of the phase II report by Sen. Pat Roberts’ intelligence committee. Did the Bush administration deliberately misuse or overplay intelligence information in order to sell the war?
Posted by Phillip Brownlee
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Well duh! What the President lied?Which President, not mine, mine would not do that! My President is honest and forthright, he would never lie! He had good reason to invade Iraq…Give me a minute and I will think of one!
Joe Blow help me out, I lost the script!
There’s no doubt that Bush was adamant about lying to invade Iraq, which still leaves open the question about his real reasons.
Israel’s agenda is obvious, but why was Bush so willing to go along with such a rank enterprise?
What were and are bush’s real reasons?
Bush’s radical religious beliefs and unwavering support from the mentality disturbed evangelicals strongly suggests he’s on a religious mission: “To clear the “holy lands” is preparation for the “second coming of Jesus Christ.”
Ariel Sharon made 10 trips to the White to convince Bush that he was sent by God to do this thing, while laughing out the other-side of his mouth. Sharon is a secular { doesn’t believe a word of it } Zionist and wanted war-criminal to boot.
As crazy as all that may sounds it does explain Bushes’ behavior, where nothing else seems to.
Crackpots and con-men are a dangerous combination, judging by the results.
If Bush lied, so did Clinton, so did every other Western intelligence agency across the globe. Yawn.
So let’s get on with the investigation to see why we acted on lies and never discovered the truth until it was too late.It’s not about who lied, it’s about why did we act on this when it was reported as probably false info.
What? Clinton lied and Joe Blow keeps pointing it out? Yawn.
The agenda was to invade. Using flawed intelligence was just used to justify the invasion.
“The president of the United States and the secretary of defense would not assert as plainly and bluntly as they have that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction if it was not true.”
- Ari Fleischer, 12/4/2002
The question is not whether the president truly thought Saddam had weapons (in which case he wasn’t technically lying) or whether he wasn’t sure and bluffed his way through (in which case he was lying).
The question NOW is how can we continue to trust and follow a leader who makes such incredible blunders, intentional or not?
People seem to be forgetting that it wasn’t just the WMD’s the Bushistas were wrong about, so far they’ve been wrong about everything since then too.
Remember Ahmad Chalabi, the man who was going to step smoothly into the shoes of Saddam Hussain? Turns out the guy hadn’t been in Iraq since he was FLIPPING 12 years old.
Remember the sweets and flowers bull shit?
Remember the 1.5 billion total cost for reconstruction. Well, that turned out to be correct. They just left off A WEEK . . . 1.5 billion A WEEK.
How long do you support a total f*ck up before you say, okay, this is stupid?
65 percent of the American people aren’t buying it anymore.
You other 35 percent, may God have mercy on your soul . . .
BTW, a clear majority of Americans want to see Bush impeached if he intentionally mislead us into war.
No wonder “Old Rubberstamp Roberts” doesn’t want to pursue it.
One last point–Italian TV is going to air video showing evidence of the United States using CHEMICAL WEAPONS when our forces attacked Fallujah.
White phosphorous was used to incinerate civilians, heigh ho.
Winning hearts and minds by inflicting ghastly and grisly death . . . yeah, that’s worked so well in the past, hasn’t it?
Wasn’t it an Italian who supplied phony intel? I guess it doesn’t matter when it comes to incendiary bombs. Is phosphorus considered a chemical agent? I thought it was considered a legal incendiary device.
I believe “chemical” warfare refers more specifically to nerve agents and blistering agents. I don’t think phosphorus or napalm would qualify as “chemical warfare” in the sense usually applied even though the basis of their action is chemical. For that matter, explosives aside from nuclear derive their power from chemical reactions.
Oh well, I guess I’m speaking out of my ass.
The reasons we invaded Iraq were stated long before 9/11. First, to recover the Bush family jewels that were lost there during Iraq I, and second, as a beachhead for a puppet government-type recolonization of the middle east.
The reasons we invaded Iraq were stated long before 9/11. First, to recover the Bush family jewels that were lost there during Iraq I, and second, as a beachhead for a puppet government-type recolonization of the middle east.
White phosphorous is legal for illumination. Not for incineration of civilians. Ditto for napalm.
BTW, willy peter burns underwater–it burns a neat hole slowly through one’s body.
Fallujah “every walking talking human being was considered an enemy combatant. They were to be wiped out,” said Iraqi vets. “It was just a mass killing.”
That’ll learn ‘em for killing those Blackwater mercenaries.
White phosphorous is legal for illumination. Not for incineration of civilians. Ditto for napalm.
BTW, willy peter burns underwater–it burns a neat hole slowly through one’s body.
Fallujah “every walking talking human being was considered an enemy combatant. They were to be wiped out,” said Iraqi vets. “It was just a mass killing.”
That’ll learn ‘em for killing those Blackwater mercenaries.
White phosphorous is legal for illumination. Not for incineration of civilians. Ditto for napalm.
BTW, willy peter burns underwater–it burns a neat hole slowly through one’s body.
Fallujah “every walking talking human being was considered an enemy combatant. They were to be wiped out,” said Iraqi vets. “It was just a mass killing.”
That’ll learn ‘em for killing those Blackwater mercenaries.
Napalm for illumination, that’s good. I sure lit up the paddies in 1969. lol
It sure made getting through the jungle a lot easier.
http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/
That’s a good link.
Shows white phosphorous raining down upon the houses and streets of Fallujah.
Lots of video footage showing women and children with faces burned off, actually MELTED off.
Remember how Saddam gassing the Kurds proved that he was a horrible tyrant and justified anything we wanted to do to him?
Okay, so what does this justify our enemies to do to us?
BTW, the US military, and I assume their commander-in-chief, have vigorously denied any offensive use of white phosphorous.
So if you still need unequivocal proof that our government lies to us and the rest of the world about the war, here it is.
Galahad, they’re not denying it anymore:
“”WP [i.e., white phosphorus rounds] proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes when we could not get effects on them with HE. We fired ’shake and bake’ missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out.”
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/9/164137/436
Who is stupid enough to assume W had any intelligence to start with? It’s impossible to abuse what you never possessed! Stupidity is rampant these days …. especially in Washington! Can we start the impeachment now?
How can stupid people impeach someone for stupidity? How would they even recognize it?