Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., argued in a Wall Street Journal commentary that America can’t abandon Iraqis. Lieberman wrote: “It is a war between 27 million and 10,000; 27 million Iraqis who want to live lives of freedom, opportunity and prosperity and roughly 10,000 terrorists who are either Saddam revanchists, Iraqi Islamic extremists or al Qaeda foreign fighters who know their wretched causes will be set back if Iraq becomes free and modern. The terrorists are intent on stopping this by instigating a civil war to produce the chaos that will allow Iraq to replace Afghanistan as the base for their fanatical war-making. We are fighting on the side of the 27 million because the outcome of this war is critically important to the security and freedom of America. If the terrorists win, they will be emboldened to strike us directly again and to further undermine the growing stability and progress in the Middle East, which has long been a major American national and economic security priority.”
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Joe, why don’t you quietly relegate yourself to the dustbin of history where everybody else has put you?
Something like 75-80 percent of Democrats oppose this war, and the Democratic leadership can’t find the guts to even represent their constituency.
First: Sen. Joe Lieberman seems to have a problem with mathematics. IE: 27,000,000 million Irais of whom there are 10,000 terrorists.
Iraqis: 80% of Iraqis want America to leave, go away, don’t come back. The other 20%, 5,400,000 must surly be dead;
Next: Sen. Joe Lieberman uses the term “terrorists” which seems to be an extreme definition of “rebels,” “insurgency,” “resistance,” or “angry Arabs who don’t like their country being invaded, bombed, or Fallujah leveled.
More to come.
Sen. Joe Lieberman fails to grasp that “al-Qaeda” grew out of anger of America’s unconditional support for Israeli butchering of defensless Palestinians and American military bases in Saudi Arabia.
Perhaps Sen. Joe Lieberman should read his own 9/11 report. You know, just spend a little time boning-up before running-off at the mouth at the WSJ.
Again Sen Joe Lieberman seems a bit distant not noticing: “The terrorists are intent on stopping this by instigating a civil war to produce the chaos”
Look aroud Mr. Lieberman, see the “chaos” death and destruction caused by the United States?
So many dead Iraqis as not to notice?
More to come.
Sen. Joe Lieberman: “We are fighting on the side of the 27 million because the outcome of this war is critically important to the security and freedom of America.”
Sir: The freedom and security of America depends on us leaving Iraq and mending our fences with the Arabs before they come and blow us away.
More to come.
Thumbs up for Joe Liberman. The only Democrat with common sense, integrity, and honesty. He’s a good politican. He doesn’t pander to propaganda like the rest of them doesn. Congradulations. :) The Democratic Party needs more people like you.
Sen. Joe Lieberman: “If the terrorists win, they will be emboldened to strike us directly again and to further undermine the growing stability and progress in the Middle East, which has long been a major American national and economic security priority.”
one billion angry Arabs smells like big trouble to me, and what “progress” and “growing stability” are you talking about?
That’s nutty.
Senator: Do you think that stopping Israel from stirring-up trouble with the Palestinians, Lebanon, Syria, and Oil-Producing-Iran should be your first order of business?
America just got through paying 3 dollars a gallon for gasoline as a result of nuclear threats made against Iran, which pushed crude oil to 70 dollars a barrel.
“A man who lives in a glass house should not throw stones”
A better plan than yours is to make friends with the Arabs by addressing their problems, or is that too much trouble?
More to come.
Joe Williams endorses Joseph Lieberman: ’nuff said.
Let’s look at Lieberman’s numbers. He claims there are only 10,000 insurgents. Bush tells us there are 212,000 trained ARI troops. Twenty-one to one. Sounds like good odds to me; US troops can come home and the ARI can take over.
Definately some common sense coming out of Lieberman. I second what Jow Williams said.
That should have been “Joe”
Sen. Joe Lieberman is a suck-up. He needs to remember where that got Max McCleland.
10,000 terrorists and 100,000,000 PO’ed muslims, 27,000,000 who are Iraqi.
I have reservations about Leiberman, even though what he says now makes a lot of sense. When he was named Gore’s running mate, he abruptly changed his conservative positions so as not to conflict with Gore. He lost credibility at that point. Then, after the election, it is the same old Joe. He is a politician.
The fact is that there is no way Bush is going to change his position, no matter how much noise the left makes. He is not going to cut and run before the job is done, and have everything, including the deaths of our soldiers, be in vain.
The men in the smoke-filled back rooms of the White House have an agenda and everything is going as planned. Actually better than expected, as the resistance doesn’t need to be prodded.
And when the time comes to frighten America again, they’ll blow-up something here in the United States again. And make you give-up even more of your freedoms and money and constitutional guarantees.
They know exactly what they’re doing and they’re counting on you not finding-out.
If you’ll take the time to notice, they sure hate my guts. And they’ll turn-up the heat on me as more of you wake-up. And I’ll keep turning-up the heat on them until their goose is cooked.
My only regret: I wish they were turkeys. I can’t stand goose-meat. It smells like…well, you know.
So, Outlander, how many years do you think we should stay the course in Iraq? Is 10 good enough for you? Maybe 20? How many dead U.S. troops is enough? 3,000? 10,000? 58,000? How many dead Muslims? Will half a million do it?
RD, I am not in favor of a blank check for anyone. Neither should we run home with our tail between our legs just because things get difficult. That would only feed a perception by our enemies that America is weak-willed and has no resolve. Do you want that perception?
Outlander, there has to be a limit to the insanity. Nobody is winning in Iraq, except for terrorists who now have a place to gather–a place they did NOT have there before the U.S. invasion. (Nothing like opening up the borders.) Saddam is gone, the puppet government is in place. The once secular government is now becoming a theocracy. The only (re)building going on is U.S. bases. Lack of electricity, clean water, and jobs does not a democracy make. There will always be another excuse (there’s that blank check), and this will continue as long as WE allow it. BushCo had no plan going in, and they don’t have a plan to get out. Could that be because they never intended to leave? Not only is this hurting Iraq, it’s hurting America.
Eventually, considering the direction this “war” is going and how the people of both countries are now in favor of U.S. troop redeployment, we will leave. No matter when that time comes, it will all have been for nothing. This is not winnable. But never fear. We’ll leave, go back in, leave, go back in, until someone comes along to put us out permanently. The way we’re growing terrorism and hate, it won’t take long.
What does war prove? The smartest, the wisest, the most compassionate? No, only who has the biggest guns, and even with those we aren’t able to make any headway except for destruction and annihlation. Think about it. The removal of Saddam has cost tens of thousands of lives. If we went in to take him out and save lives, we’ve failed. Miserably.
RD, that is well said. Few would have the nerve to argue that, in hindsight, this war was a smart thing to do. The question now is figuring out what to do to make the most of this mess, getting out as soon as we can, without leaving an unstable Iraq to the terrorists.
We differ in that I am more optomistic about being able to accomplish this than you. Real progress is being made and will continue to be made. Stay tuned.
Thanks, Outlander. As much as I’d like to see our troops home immediately (like yesterday!), that’s my heart talking. My head knows that it must be orderly and done with great care for the safety of our troops and the people of Iraq. I just don’t foresee a stable Iraq in my lifetime. I sure haven’t seen a stable Israel/Palestine. One can hope though, I guess, and so I will, but let’s get our men and women out of there “at the earliest practicable date.” (Thanks, Representative Murtha.)
Give this a quick read:http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/28582/?type=blog
MoveOn is considering backing a primary challenger to “I run against the Democratic Party” Joe Lieberman. About time. If the Democratic Party won’t bust him down to size and stop him from backstabbing Democrats, somebody has to.
When an Israeli speaks…….
Costly Withdrawal Is the Price To Be Paid for a Foolish WarBy Martin van Creveld
Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University, is author of “Transformation of War” (Free Press, 1991). He is the only non-American author on the U.S. Army’s required reading list for officers.
http://www.forward.com/articles/6936