It’s a fairly common occurrence to listen to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and wonder: What is he thinking? Take his recent Senate testimony regarding insurgents sneaking into Iraqi security forces, which he said is a “problem faced by police forces in every major city in our country. The criminals infiltrate and sign up to join in the police force.” Huh? Naturally, Bill Johnson of the National Association of Police Organizations rightly responded: “The secretary’s comment was flippant and reflects a fundamental lack of understanding about what American police departments are all about.” Or Iraqi police departments?
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When I resigned from the Sedgwick county S.O. I took a job with a small town Police department in Oklahoma.
Shortly after moving there I heard that some of the town’s people were spreading the rumor that I was wanted in Kansas for felonies and was hiding out. I had been finger printed, photographed and had a background check ran.
Yep, going in to law enforcement is a great place to hide from the law! Every criminal knows that, Hush Mr. secertary you are giving away our secrets.
The white house declared that intelligent forces broke up ten terrorist plots against the US, britian, yadda, yadda…With Bush’s credibility at or near zero, How can we believe any of this? That’s the sad part of the whole Bush mess.
Actually he is not far from it. There are plenty of Law Enformancment Officers out there that are criminals. They have been at the heart of criminal activity, corruption, and intemidation in any society since the begining of time.
I’m not saying everybody in law enforcement, but there are plenty of individuals that are criminals, that it is worth keeping an eye out for.
Recently I read a story about a Border Patrol Agent in Arizona that as actually an illegal immigrant and helping other illegal immigrants across the border. He was a Border Patrol Agent for many years. Only until they caught him helping illegal immigrants did the government do a thorough background check and found he was one too.
I will stand mute on this one. Since reading this, I have brought it up at work. And to the person they said they believe it and most every cop is a criminal. I am too close to this one, all I can say is the next time someone hears a bump in the night. Or finds their house has been robbed. Or someone threaten to take your head off over your dog craping on their lawn.Do not risk your valuable, call a fireman!
Sorry I have been shot at three times, Oh forget it.
Deja vu all over again. Back in the 60s-70s we were lied to again and again by McNamara et.al. Vietnamization, Operation Phoenix, Strategic Hamlets, and on and on and on. Now “RumNamara” is spouting the same lies.
Is it a coincidence that both presidents involved are from Texas?
What do you expect out of Dubbya’s buddies? Gotta keep them thar dollars flowing for the Homeland Security pork barrel.
Yup, you’re finding out the reality of posting on this blog, R.D. There’re thinking conservatives like you and thinking liberals like me and then there’re are the Bush lovers who can’t bring themselves to say anything bad about their fearless leader and everyone around him.
(Of course, there’re also Ed and Ian, and the less said about them, the better.)
Rumsfeld is insane, or a creature from outer space. OR BOTH.
It’s good that Mr. Rumsfeld has retained his ability to state the plain truth without yielding to Political Cowardice. And it’s fun to watch the PC types get a case of the vapors and get all tangled up in their underwear whenever he says something plainly obvious.
Everyone knows that most policemen are good people. It is also clear, from frequent news stories, that a few of them are not. It wasn’t that long ago that some New Orleans police were seen acting like criminals – shooting, looting, etc.
The NYPD has 40,000 officers. Given the steady stream of complaints and indictments, it is highly probable that some of them are dishonest; and it is no stretch to say that a few joined the police for the crime opportunities, either for themselves or for their gangster bosses.
Locally, Dennis Rader tried to get onto a police force. He even went to the trouble of taking criminal justice classes to improve his chances. It’s good that he didn’t make it, but the case shows that some people do apply for police jobs as an opportunity to commit crimes.
Now read the comments aboove by Walker, Huie, JUSTA-, and TRACY. Nothing but partisan mud slinging. Not a single, factual point. No reasoned argument. Galahad had a point, but it was merely to pat himself on the back.
Actually, Kenny Landwehr says that Rader applying to the Wichita police was one of those consistent, but untrue rumors about the BTK case.
Not that I know first hand or anything, but I recall from the 70’s hearing rumors that cops always had the best dope. Maybe that was what Rumsfeld was thinking about.
Andy,
When I feel I need your critques of my posts, I’ll ask you for them.
While there is certainly corruption in America’s police departments, I think that is hardly the point. Rumsfeld was comparing the infiltration of insurgents into the Iraqi security forces whose intent is the overthrow of the current Iraqi government with the infiltration/corruption of police departments here in the US where the intent is the commission of misemeanors and felonies for personal gain (in most cases). There is clearly a huge gulf between the two. To compare them as equivalent is disingenuous.
Maybe that crazy old fart is hard of hearing. We the People want to bring our soldiers home now before anymore are killed.
And that cracy Bitch of a Secretary of State needs to listen to the People of America instead sucking-up to the Israelis and bring our soldiers home now.
Is that plain enough Bitch?
Come on blog. let’s make enough noise so those crazy bastards can hear us.
What say ye?
I don’t think criminals are infiltrating police departments, it’s just that both occupations have an element of imposing their will on others that makes them attractive to the control freaks.As far as calling the cops whenever something happens, I generally don’t. Every time I have, they’ve made whatever problem they found worse, sometimes disastrously so.
9/11?
But there is a thread linking these events and it is Iraq.
Politicians tell us they acted in good faith on the road to war, and maybe they did, but that leaves a prickly question: Who was so keen to prove that Saddam Hussein was an imminent threat that they forged documents purporting to show that he was trying to buy 500 tons of uranium from Niger to develop nuclear weapons? The forgery was revealed to the Security Council by El-Baradei. That was not an intelligence error. It was a straightforward lie, an invention intended to mislead public opinion and help start a war.
At the beginning of 2001, a few weeks before George Bush took office, there was a break-in at the Niger Embassy in Rome. Strangely, nothing of value was taken. Months later came 9/11 and a month after that, as George Bush wondered how to get back at the terrorists, a report from the Italian security service (Sismi) reached the CIA: Iraq was seeking to buy uranium.
Disappointingly for the neocons, the CIA sent Ambassador Joseph Wilson to Niger to check the story: He reported that it was nonsense. When the story was repeated by Bush, Wilson went public. His wife, CIA agent Valerie Plame, was then outed by the White House. Hence Rove’s predicament.