The nation didn’t need to be cheered up

Perhaps President Bush underestimated how angry many Americans are with the government’s failure in New Orleans. He spent only a few sentences of Thursday’s speech addressing it before shifting to an optimism that seem to discount the utter devastation surrounding him.
As Mickey Edwards, a former Republican congressman from Oklahoma, said: “He was giving a speech as if the nation were disheartened and worried and had lost its spirit, but that’s not what people were thinking. They were thinking, ‘Why did the government screw up?’ ”
Posted by Melissa Cooley

52 Comments

  1. J M Walker
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 7:07 am | Permalink

    GW has been, and always will be, out of touch with the average American. He’s lived and breathed politics since he learned to crawl. And, as most people know, politics has very little to do with the average American. So why point out the obvious? Anyone with half a brain would have known that the President would be way off-base with his address. He’s a lame-duck…except he still, unfortunately, has power.

  2. Sum1
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    One thing Bush can never do again. He can never tells us he will keep us safe. We’ve seen with our own eyes the valuable time that was lost with no planning.

    I love the interview with Ted Koppel of Hugo Chavez. It shines light on the underhanded way this administration runs the government, makes it’s war plans behind closed doors and feed the american people only enough information (sometimes blatantly false) to get a majority to agree. I’ve hoped their war on Iran and Venezuela would never come about, We’re already mired in two wars, why take on two more?

    I agree with Mr. Chavez. Pat Robertson by his own admission admits to being a terrorist. Only a terrorist would ask to have a person assassinated. Why hasnt’ he been declared an enemy combatant and placed under arrest?I’ll be watching to see what happens with the ships of 300,000 gallons of gasoline Venezuela sent to help the People.http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/print?id=1134098

  3. J M Walker
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 8:35 am | Permalink

    Sum 1,An interesting article. Chavez seems to have his own ambitions, which seem to lie a bit on the communist side, but if his story of his upbringing is true, I can see where he is comming from.As for Bush plannig to invade Venezuela, I would assume there are plans to invade every country that has a significant hold on goods critical to this nation. Something all administrations do. It’s called planning for the unforeseen (Bush admin…planning? What am I saying?).Yeah, bottom line: Why isn’t Pat Roberts locked up? I would assume the first amendment has something to do with it. The guy may be a moron, but he still lives in this country.

  4. XXX
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    JM, I think Socialist might be more accurate than Communist. Given the circumstances, That might not be so bad. Still, I think it’s relevant that we didn’t have any problem with Venezuela till BushCo came along. We need to remember that a lot of the social problems in South America are a direct result of Yankee interference in the late 19th and early 20th century. I can see why our government’s agressive stance would make Venezuela very nervous.

    Good article Sum1. I think continual war is part of the GOP plan to maintain power in this country. The republicans have figured out that they can keep us distracted with constant war. In the meantime, they continue to hand everything over to big business while we’re looking the other way.There’s always been corruption in DC, but the current administration has taken it to new heights, witness K Street, et al. Government used to be “by the people for the people”. Can we say that’s the case now?War with Venezuela? I could see it happening. But that’s what we voted for.

    MOST. CORRUPT. ADMINISTRATION. EVER.

  5. XXX
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    Back on subject:We need to remember that Bush is only the face of the beast. He doesn’t really run anything; his owners just trot him out for show. To some, Bush is the “regular guy”, someone you could have a beer with. But Katrina exposed the weakness of the right wing machine, and Bush mouthing platitudes isn’t going to fix the problem, for the GOP, or the country. One third of republicans are going to support Bush no matter what, but per the polls, his popularity is fading fast. While this country may be polarized into 2 camps, I think there’s still a lot of people out there in the middle, and we must consider the number of people who don’t vote. If the non-voters ever get motivated, BushCo is in deep trouble. While Big Business provides the money to run the machine, people provide the votes. Maybe we’re seeing a situation where they won’t be able to white-wash this over? We can only hope.

  6. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Bush can’t even button his shirt right { notice he’s one button off center }

    So will the real Government please step out and show yourselves?

  7. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Is there no end to the Bush bashing? Now there is some inference to be made because the poor man missed a button on his shirt?He is the only one in the world who has ever missed a button? Or is everyone else here absolutely perfect?

    Enough already..continual blaming, bashing, accusing and attacking is not going to help anyone anywhere.

  8. Sum1
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

    C’mon Ray, he was making a speech in front of the american people. Dont’ you think anyone would have noticed his shirt was buttoned up wrong.

    Would you make any presentation without checking that you were presentable?

  9. Posted September 18, 2005 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9379241 /Leaders Who Won’t ChooseIn Washington, it’s business as usual in the face of a national FAREED ZAKARIA

    . . .Whatever his other accomplishments, Bush will go down in history as the most fiscally irresponsible chief executive in American history. Since 2001, government spending has gone up from $1.86 trillion to $2.48 trillion, a 33 percent rise in four years! Defense and Homeland Security are not the only culprits. Domestic spending is actually up 36 percent in the same period. These figures come from the libertarian Cato Institute’s excellent report “The Grand Old Spending Party,” which explains that “throughout the past 40 years, most presidents have cut or restrained lower-priority spending to make room for higher-priority spending. What is driving George W. Bush’s budget bloat is a reversal of that trend.” To govern is to choose. And Bush has decided not to choose. He wants guns and butter and tax cuts.

    People wonder whether we can afford Iraq and Katrina. The answer is, easily. What we can’t afford simultaneously is $1.4 trillion in tax cuts and more than $1 trillion in new entitlement spending over the next 10 years. To take one example, if Congress did not make permanent just one of its tax cuts, the repeal of estate taxes, it would generate $290 billion over the next decade. That itself pays for most of Katrina and Iraq.

  10. Posted September 18, 2005 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    Saying that Bush has increased spending 33 percent over four years while cutting taxes 1.4 TRILLION is not Bush bashing.

    That is simply reporting the facts to those ignorant of them (practically everyone who supports Bush, BTW).

    You can draw your own conclusions. Mine are WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.

  11. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    Bush is nothing more than a lttle boy with very bloody hands.

  12. XXX
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    They still can’t get it right. How long does it take FEMA to get up and running? It may take an act of congress to un-bollox what FEMA is screwing up. See for yourself:

    http://www.blah3.com/article.php?story=20050917021325201

  13. brown
    Posted September 18, 2005 at 11:38 pm | Permalink

    Ray,Since you are so defensive about people bashing Bush, I have to ask if you were one of those who liked to bash Clinton. You have to remember this is an internet blog and people have a right to express their opinion, whether you agree or not.

  14. dooda
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    Galahad/TRACY, xxx, brown, and sum1 are so immature. I wonder if all their sucking up to CF will improve their grades as much as they hope. As for Ed, he just needs to remember to take his pills. He’s gone three days without now.

  15. Posted September 19, 2005 at 6:07 am | Permalink

    Think maybe Dubbya and Momma Babs are nipping a little liquid courage again?

    d

  16. XXX
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 6:20 am | Permalink

    Oh Dooda, how cunning! My, that post must have really challenged you. Did you stay up all night to come up with that? Did your mother have any children who weren’t retarded? Did you ever get past your need for sex with barnyard animals? Are you and Mal White involved in a loving relationship? Does your mother still only charge $2? Did you ever find out what your father’s name is?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

  17. J M Walker (aka one other guy)
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 6:25 am | Permalink

    XXX,Apples and oranges on the socialist/communist thing. without knowing him better, it’s a crapshoot. The interview asks us to take Chavez at face value. Being a politician makes his statements mostly self-serving, as is true of all politicians. This guy may be a despot, he may be Amin jr for all we know, but off him because Pat Roberts doesn’t like him? Uh..that would be no, Pat.

  18. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    Brown–

    I am not being defensive, just sick and tired of all the bashing. It has gotten old, boring, and ridiculous. How many times can you say the same thing.What I think of Clinton is not important–he lied under oath and was impeached.Granted everyone is entitled to their opinion…and mine is that I am sick and tired of the same old same old repitition of Bush bashing to the extent that people are drawing inferences from his missing one button on his shirt. Lighten up, people.

  19. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 7:51 am | Permalink

    Dooda, I don’t take pills, but you sure need some. The kind that let you see pasted your nose.

  20. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    Dooda, Here’s one that’ll make you sweat. Ha Ha.

    http://www.davidduke.com/

  21. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 8:09 am | Permalink

    Ray, The missing button is important. It means the event was staged, as when he took off his suit coat and tie and put on the “blue collar” working man’s shirt, he wasn’t standing in front of a mirror. All we get from Bush is theater. He never tells the truth. As long as he keeps lying, we keep on calling him out. You want to let him get away with it. GTH

  22. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 8:25 am | Permalink

    Now, now, Ed…superlatives and absolutes get us nowhere. “He never tells the truth”. That is a little extreme, don’t you think? Never? How about when he said the federal government did not respond quickly enough to the hurricane disaster? Was that never telling the truth?Never? Like I said, lighten up. this is a small town blog in the midwest…this is not rocket science or brain surgery.

  23. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 8:46 am | Permalink

    Ray, Words are put into his mouth to suit the occasion. He knows the truth. It’s all circus, nothing more than a puppet show and that, Ray, is never telling the truth. Never. People are dying because he won’t be a man. He’s supposed to be the President, not the neocons. If the neocons want to rule the world, they need their own country, not this one, this one is already taken by the American People.

  24. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 8:52 am | Permalink

    neocons? Sorry to say, haven’t seen many of those running around..do they bite?

  25. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    The kill American soldiers and that’s worse than a “bite.”

  26. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Where’s the money to pay for all this? Well, here’s some of Amercan money going to waste: From Haaretz:

    Government to increase settler payouts by NIS 1.5 billionBy Zvi Zrahiya, Meirav Arlozorov Haaretz CorrespondentThe Israeli Knesset Finance Committee on Monday morning approved an increase of NIS 1.5 billion in the payouts to settlers evacuated under the disengagement plan, bringing the budget to a massive NIS 3.5 billion. { this in addtion to the 2.5 billion Israel has already snatched.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/626605.html

  27. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    Oh? I must have missed something, I thought it was terrorists and “insurgents” killing American soldiers. Is CNN wrong? It was “neocons” all the time?Sounds like Larry Flint and his samuri…

  28. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Ray, Enlighten us as to why American soldiers are there, in harms way? Your Zionist stooge Bush seems a bit confused.

  29. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:24 am | Permalink

    I am still waiting to learn more about these neocons….and Bush is no more my “stooge” than you are. I am just asking for validation of your wild claims. Who are these neocons? What type of weapons do they carry? Do you have pictures of them? Any proof of their existence? I am not saying they are fictitious, just asking for proof–more so than your claim.

  30. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Google it jerk

  31. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Ahhh..that is the answer to everything, when you run out of fictitious claims to label me a jerk.Wow, I have been told off now… gee, golly, I don’t know that I can stand it.

    So, these neocons are killing American soldiers. Uh huh. Mind if I ask for evidence of that? Do they travel at night in packs to shoot at them? Care to elaborate?

  32. dooda
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:48 am | Permalink

    Thanks, guys. You proved my point very nicely.

    xxx, your post was one of the best examples of whako immaturity in the last few days. Thank you so much.

  33. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

    Nathan, The stupid mind of your gives you away.

  34. Jed
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    As much as it pains me to do so, I have to agree with Ed on one thing; that missed button was staged. His handlers would never have missed that! It was done to show the people that although Bush is a descendant and namesake of Nazi’s, and a scion of big oil and banking who never made a dime of his own, he’s just an average joe that any working man would be proud to go get drunk with! How utterly condescending!

  35. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    A descendent of Nazi’s? That is a new one…would you mind providing some backup or proof of that?

  36. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    Jed, You poor thing!

  37. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    I am really curious about this one, that our President is a Nazi, or related to Nazis? Any particular one? Boerman, maybe? Von Rundstad? Himmler?

    I am not disputing you, but would really like to see some proof of this. Making a charge like that is quite extreme, so I am assuming you are able to back it up.

    I asked a while ago, and no response. C’mon…you put it out there, now give us some validation or admit you are making things up, ok? Be honest….or at least try.

  38. David Weihe
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 9:27 pm | Permalink

    President Truman issued an executive order in 1947 to eliminate discrimination in the armed forces and government. After 32 democratic and 5 republican governors it suddenly became George Bush’s problem. Why everyone living in poverty since President Bush took office was obviously living high on the hog before he arrived. Now, American Muslims believe that the President blew a crater in the dike so black residents would be flooded. We even have two ministers in Wichita who believe that New Orleans was punished because we have pornography in Kansas, etc. We had a bad storm, had poor administration of the city’s plan to minimize damage, and a governor who couldn’t make timely decisions. Seems to me a lot of people could have left but didn’t. Let’s put all the blame on Bush and move on.

  39. J R
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    It is a well known fact that the bush family fortune was made by grandpa Prescott bush …..who laundered money for the nazis. Accessory after the fact “ray”?

    The blue collar shirt bush wore during his rah rah not only was mis-buttoned but did not fit if you look at the pictures.

  40. J R
    Posted September 19, 2005 at 11:32 pm | Permalink

    It is a well known fact that the bush family fortune was made by grandpa Prescott bush …..who laundered money for the nazis. Accessory after the fact “ray”?

    The blue collar shirt bush wore during his rah rah not only was mis-buttoned but did not fit if you look at the pictures.

  41. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    Well known “fact” that a Bush ancestor laundered money for the Nazi’s…and from that you discern that Bush is a Nazi? You are really reaching here. No facts, but wild claims..need to start calling you Connie Morris.. facts don’t bother her either..

  42. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 8:51 am | Permalink

    By the way, “JR” my name is Ray Thomas. I live and work in Wichita and am not hiding behind anything..like initials or cutsey little slogan. You don’t need to put quotation marks around my name. I am not hiding anything…

  43. Jed
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Ray,Prescott Bush, and his business partner, George Herbert Walker, not only were bankers for the third reich up to 1942, when the government put a stop to it, They were party to a plot by many of the richest families here to use disappointed WWI veterans to overthrow the government and install a nazi-type regime. The plot fell through when their chosen figurehead, former Marine Gen. Smedley Butler, turned them in. All this has been thoroughly documented, and is available in books and on the web.I am not calling George Bush a nazi, but I do note that he’s never repudiated that part of his family history.

  44. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 11:41 am | Permalink

    JR, Fatboy Rove loaned him a “shirt,” that’s why it doesn’t fit.

  45. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    My ancestors killed Indians while settling the west. I don’t repudiate that, either…does that make me a murderer? Do I have any control over what my predecessors did? Does it mean I am an Indian hater?

    The previous claim that GW Bush is a descendant of Nazis is another name calling smokescreen. *yawn*. Let’s see, Teddy Kennedy (the darling of the liberals) father made his fortune in illegal rum running…does that apply at all today? Not in the least.

    This is just one more example of the ridiculous extremes Bush haters will go to make up things.

    No, I do not believe he walks on water, and know he has made mistakes and will likely make more. But, let’s stick with the facts for a change, shall we?

  46. NoJoCo
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    Ray, One thing to keep in mind: Don’t communicate with Ed. He’s that extra crazy guy in the corner of the crazy house who mumbles to himself with no rhyme or reason. You hear “JEWS!”, (more muttering), “ZIONIST!” from him, but the other patients have learned not to be surprised and think to themselves, “Oh that’s just Ed”.

  47. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    Thanks, NoJo…! Will remember that!

  48. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

    NoJo, you’re seeing things in the crazy house again. Man, they really ought to let you go. And take the mirror with ya. Yuc…Yuc…

  49. J R
    Posted September 20, 2005 at 11:02 pm | Permalink

    Nojo cites O’reilly on another blog. Now Nojo’s enlightenment is coming along, but for now in just citing O’reilly, well, the concensus of the blog is “oh that’s just nojo”

    “ray”? It is true that the Kennedy fortune was made on bootlegging. They made money circumventing a constitutional amendment that legislated morality and denied consumers a desired commodity. Their actions demonstrated the folly of aforementioned amendment and brought about another amendment to over turn it! Hell I call that the best of capitalism and the free market!

    And the Bush family complicity with Nazi Germany benefitted……..uh……..well the bush family.

    But back to the thread. Bush was a cheerleader in college. That experience is serving him now. He is as he has always been, out of the way, out of the fray. He has no connection or comprehension to any concept of suffering or deprivization. He arrives to streets swept clean of debris and any dissenting voices. He speaks under bright lights that will disappear just as soon as he does. And as ever for someone like him, he yells rah rah rah and leaves the field to be helicoptered away to an early sleep on fine linens.

  50. Albertus
    Posted September 21, 2005 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    JR, the concensus is that you are pathetic — just a teenager claiming to be a Vietnam vet. Everything you write is trite rehash of discredited liberal talking points. What a joke.

  51. Posted September 21, 2005 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    Puny–

    Don’t make me come down there.

    We’re gonna have to take away the sugar again and go back to “quiet time”–either that or the white jacket.

    And then you won’t be able to type with your hands immobilized behind your back.

  52. Dooda
    Posted September 21, 2005 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    Heh.