Katrina can only change so much

Some have suggested that Hurricane Katrina — in addition to transforming the country’s landscape — could also transform the country’s attitudes about race, poverty and government.
But this survey conducted by the Pew Research Center suggests otherwise. It found Americans’ long-term views on poverty, race and government to be about the same as they were before the hurricane.
Those hoping that Katrina would be a catalyst for sweeping societal changes may be disappointed. It seems people’s fundamental views are not easily uprooted.
Posted by Melissa Cooley

25 Comments

  1. Posted September 30, 2005 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    And now for something really interesting–from todays USA TODAY:

    Judith Miller verified that her source was “Scooter” Libby, chief of staff to VP Dick Cheney.

    “Until a few months ago, the White House maintained for nearly two years that Libby and presidential aide Karl Rove were not involved in leaking the identity of Valerie Plame, whose husband had publicly suggested that the Bush administration twisted intelligence in the runup to the war in Iraq.

    “The timing of the criticism by former Ambassador Joseph Wilson was devastating for the White House, which was already on the defensive because no weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq. The president’s claims of such weapons were the main justification for going to war.”

    Here’s a high government official who let a journalist rot in jail for 85 days before he finally released “confidentiality.”

    At this rate, Webster’s Dictionary is going to put Bush’s picture next to its entry on “liar.”

  2. Posted September 30, 2005 at 9:50 am | Permalink

    Karl Rove and Libby–outing covert agent Valerie Plame, head of a CIA WMD division

    Senate majority leader Frist–investigated for insider stock trading in family owned HCL corp.

    House majority leader DeLay–indicted for breaking campaign finance laws

    Meanwhile the president who claimed he would never involve our country in an action unless the goal of the mission was “clear” and there was a stated “exit strategy,” has us in a war without end in Iraq (1-2 billion a week), gasoline prices have nearly doubled, and average incomes continue to fall.

    Hey, Republicans, nothing fails like success when you’ve got Bush at the helm, does it?

  3. NoJoCo
    Posted September 30, 2005 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    Hey Numbnuts, wrong blog.

  4. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 30, 2005 at 10:56 am | Permalink

    Here come the chosen ones.

  5. Posted September 30, 2005 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    I decided a while back not to pick on you anymore, NoJo.

    Have you noticed?

    Do your worst, I refuse to respond in kind.

  6. Posted September 30, 2005 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Also, FYI, I posted my comment about a half an hour before the Plame blog was posted.

    Carry on . . .

  7. NoJoCo
    Posted September 30, 2005 at 1:06 pm | Permalink

    Okay, G. I made a bad judgement by calling you a name. I apologize.

    I just want civilized discussion – something that you have been better at.

  8. Posted September 30, 2005 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Don’t sweat it. I used to be the flame-king, heh . . .

  9. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 30, 2005 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

    Anyway…back to the “Katrina change” thought. That is the first I have heard of that concept. Most of the stories coming out of NO don’t seem to do much to change pre existing ideas, prejudices or opintions. People that dislike Bush find more reasons to do so. People that dislike welfare dependents find more reasons to do so. People that abhor the corrupt politics of Louisiana find more reason to do so.

    And, of course, some people jump on the race bandwagon and do everything they can to further the racial separations. People like Jesse Jackson who claim relief was delayed because of the color of the recipients. Or Louis Farrakan who claimed that white people blew up the levies.

    *sigh*

    Change of perceptions because of Katrina? Doubtful. People will pick and choose events that support their own opinion. Thus it has always been…

  10. Ray Thomas
    Posted September 30, 2005 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Oooops. Typo. Levees, not levies. Wouldn’t want anyone talking about blowing up blue jeans….

  11. Ed Friedemann
    Posted September 30, 2005 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    Blowing-up jeans is fine as long as nobody is in them.

  12. Jed
    Posted September 30, 2005 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    Of course! Some joker will find a way to market blown-up jeans as a souvenir of the World Trade Center! Ah, capitalism!

  13. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 1, 2005 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Gasoline prices are high because Zionist Israel is threatening to nuke Iran.

    Iran supplies 60% of the world’s oil. We have to rid ourselves of Zionist Israel or get Bush to shut them down. 3 dollar Jew-gas is wrecking our economy. The rich don’t care but working people { those who are still working } need to have a president who puts Americans and their interests first. Not the greed of Isael.

  14. Damoon
    Posted October 1, 2005 at 5:54 pm | Permalink

    Ed, would your life even be worthwhile if you couldn’t hate the Jews? What were you, a nazi in a former life or what?I thought this blog was about whether or not the hurricane changed people’s attitudes toward the poor.

  15. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 1, 2005 at 8:02 pm | Permalink

    The “poor” in this country are increasing, while much needed money is given to trouble-making butchers. Butchers which you support unconditionally because you hate blacks. Why all the Hate? Why are such a racist against blacks who wish you no harm?

  16. ashleigh
    Posted October 2, 2005 at 12:06 am | Permalink

    Let me be perfectly clear.

    , which proves my point.

  17. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 2, 2005 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    Damoon

    Why do you hate jews so much? Why are you a Nazi? Why do you hate Americans so much? Why all the hate? why do you hate Blacks so much? why do you hate white people all the time? Why all that hate? So much hate will destroy your soul.

  18. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 2, 2005 at 11:01 am | Permalink

    Jed

    As a Racist and a Bigot, and a Nazi Sympathizer, how do you live with yourself?

  19. Damoon
    Posted October 2, 2005 at 7:34 pm | Permalink

    Ed, I’m not sure of the point you’re trying to make. Maybe you could be a little clearer?

  20. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 2, 2005 at 9:23 pm | Permalink

    Iraq.

    We need to stop this Israeli-driven expansion and stop bringing our soldiers home in coffins or with limbs blown-off. That number of dead and maimed has reached over 22,000 and increases daily.

    Bush gave Ariel Sharon an old map of “Greater Israel” which stretches all the way from the Nile River in Egypt to the Euphrates River in Iraq.

    Bush is trying to help Sharon with that expansion and that is why we are in Iraq now. The evangelicals are on board because their religious beliefs are being exploited. Other Christian Churches are divesting investments out of Israel because they know what the secular Zionists are up to.

    There was no legitimate reason to pull troops out of Afghanistan without first securing that country and diverting them into Iraq. That’s why all those manufactured lies were bandied about. Establishing a permanent presence in Iraq for Israeli expansion is why we are there. None of the other phony reasons given are true. I think that all of you know that.

    Establishing a Greater Israel will cost the United States trillion in taxpayer money and monies borrowed against our Treasury. That will bankrupt this nation. Is that something Americans will knowingly want to do? Of course not and that’s why it’s shrouded in secrecy.

    Israel has cost the United States $1.7 trillion since 1973.

    On Channel 3 in Israel, Bush threatened to use tactical nuclear weapons against Iran and because Iran supplies 60% of the world oil, the price of crude spiked to over $70 a barrel.

    Pakistan threatened to come to Iran’s aid and the price of crude oil dropped somewhat. This is a very dangerous game Bush is playing, by allowing Israel to push him into it.

    Bush tells the American People one thing and tells the Israelis another.

    The time has come to stop this charade and let the truth be known.

    This so-called war in Iraq needs to stop now.

    We have needs right here in America.

  21. Damoon
    Posted October 3, 2005 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    I’m not sure what the previous rant has to do with you calling me a racist and a nazi. I think you forgot to take your meds today, Ed.

  22. Ed Friedemann
    Posted October 4, 2005 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Here are your meds

    Beer is Beer even in Kansas

    http://www.davidduke.com/index.php?p=410

  23. Damoon
    Posted October 4, 2005 at 7:11 pm | Permalink

    I’m not surprized that you and David Duke see eye to eye on issues. You both are sick f**ks.

  24. Ian Santiago
    Posted October 6, 2005 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    Damoon,

    Why are you always so intolerant of opinions that differ from yours?

  25. Damoon
    Posted October 8, 2005 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    Because I can be. Get over it.