The school funding stalemate could be over if House Speaker Doug Mays, R-Topeka, would allow lawmakers to vote Wednesday on a spending bill separate from a constitutional amendment.
But Mays has blocked that because he really wants the amendment. And he knows that the only chance of getting that is to hold school funding hostage.
Enough. A constitutional amendment should stand on its own merits. And lawmakers who vote for the amendment should do so because they really believe it is needed — not because it was the ransom they had to pay to adequately fund schools.
Posted by Phillip Brownlee
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What an asshat. He’s acting like a spoiled 3 year old.
He can kiss his hopes of getting the governorship goodbye!
He may think he is doing the right thing, but the right thing is to find the funding and other issues can be resolved during the regular session in 2006.
Despite all of the right-wing huffing and puffing, the Legislature’s turf war with the judiciary isn’t important. What is important is getting money for schools.Besides, even if the amendment passes, we the people get to vote on it after the passion has cooled. It could take a couple of years. And the funding problem would still exist.I have a lot more faith in the people than I do in the Legislature.
The Legislature will do what they always do, play to their base. Although the Legislature is under the thumb of the GOP, there’s a war going on between the moderate and the conservative wings of the Republican party here in Kansas (?????). Everybody is in a race to see who can be the most extreme. I’m going to go with Joe on this one. Knock off the sillyness, get something done, and leave the BS pandering to the next session. Trying to tie yet another amendment to school finance is just more of the same old wing-nuttery.
I agree. I think that it’s time that funding gets passed – I don’t want my education in limbo because some bureaucrat is offended the Supreme Court is making him solve an actual problem.
I hope Doug Mays hold on and the Supreme Court closes the schools. They are the real asses in this story. The idea of pouring more and more dollars into the black hole of public education is absurd. Let the Court order whatever they want. Let them try to enforce the closing of schools. What will they do, send in the Highway Patrol? How will they enforce their actions? They are paper tigers and it’s time they were given a reality check. The Kansas Supremes can go and piss up a rope.
Nice agrument, chapped. Really, really adult of you.
Let’s see, to sum up: in order to better teach our children within the social contract we all operate by, let’s encourage those who make the very laws controlling same to break the government and likely the constitution.
Yeah, that’s the ticket!
Sweet! You must be one of those people who encourage your children to pop an M-80 or two in the neighbor’s mailbox (when they’re, like, 10) and wonder why they’re covered in tattoos and parents six years later!
I have also heard tell that if you pull your nose off it’ll make your face really, really mad – and won’t that feel good!
Wow… Conservatives are scary. It’s impressive how you think that public education is a black hole. And that the Supreme Court is at fault here. (please reference my post on the “Constitution” article)Instead of funding it, let’s see your alternative, chapped. After all, in an educated debate, when critiqueing the system, you have to offer some alternative. What’s the scenario, chapped? Send all of us to Iraq? Shove us into private schools?I hope you never have children.
I love the smell of libs in the morning. Especially those with their panties all bunched up.
Chapped, I suppose the courts could “send in the Highway Patrol”. Something to think about….they could send in the National Guard. Baiting the court does nothing to address the issue. Defying the court probably isn’t a great idea. Perhaps the Legislature should get to work and find an answer to our education problems and quit grand-standing. This isn’t about courts and the Legislature, it’s about our kids. They need a world class education if they’re to compete with students from India, China, etc, where people truly value education. Let’s give our kids an education that’ll do them some good.
During the regular session these guys threw a fit that the Court didn’t give any direction on how much money to allocate (never mind they had their own study that they chose to ignore right there). Now that the Court has given them the dollar value that they wanted in the regular session, they are mad they have been given an exact figure. What a bunch of idiots! Grow up and do your job. If they had given a rat’s backside about education as opposed to all their ultra right wing discrimination (like the discrimination amendment) they could have avoided this who problem. It’s time to vote these political hacks out and get some people who care about Kansas and not just certain segments of it.
During the regular session these guys threw a fit that the Court didn’t give any direction on how much money to allocate (never mind they had their own study that they chose to ignore right there). Now that the Court has given them the dollar value that they wanted in the regular session, they are mad they have been given an exact figure. What a bunch of idiots! Grow up and do your job. If they had given a rat’s backside about education as opposed to all their ultra right wing discrimination (like the discrimination amendment) they could have avoided this who problem. It’s time to vote these political hacks out and get some people who care about Kansas and not just certain segments of it.
Doug Mays has stood in the way of the duly elected representatives of the people of Kansas by not allowing a straight up or down vote on school finance. He then has the nerve to accuse the Dems of standing in the way of the will of the people. The will of the people was expressed when he could not get a constitutional majority to support a change in the constitution. Those members of the House stand for election every two years. Let them vote, and let them be accountable for their position, without holding the school finance bill hostage. This special session could have been over on the first day if Mays had allowed a bi-partisan plan go to the floor for a vote.
Listen to you whiners ringing your hands. All piffle. A year without schools would be a boon to the state. All the liberal bedwetters would leave and these blogs might become readable.
Look out – native went feral
Piffle? Piffle?!?!?
Why do these disagreements always come down to party lines? It doesn’t matter who is a republican, democrat, liberal, conservative, whatever. We’re all Kansans. That’s all that matters.Keep up the ad homeneims, chapped and native. Wonderful way to contribute to the blog.
B Pearson,Most of the above comments are just mindless party line stuff and most of them are by liberals who seem to have a lot of time on their hands. Too bad there’s no original thinking or effort to straighten out fact from fiction. Why argue with them? Ad hominem is all they deserve.
B. Pearson,The answer to your question is in the post above. To some people, hate and xenophobia come before education and accomplishment. native is a perfect example of how far you can go without an education.
Look for a shift in power in House now that the moderate Republicans have found out that they can work with the Democrats. Speaker Mays has handed them the reins of leadership when he over played his hand on school finance and the courts.
native-And your posts aren’t full of ad homs? By no means was I addressing the liberals; I <3 Liberals, they never did anything to me. I don’t even mind conservatives, it’s just people like you who have to (unoriginally, I might add) resort to ad homs to try and seem like the witty one in the situation.
You kids need to read your own stuff for textbook cases of hollow rhetoric. Pots calling the kettle black. I’ve tried reasoning with people like you. Can’t be done. Anyway, wrlocke makes my point.
native, the only point around here is the one on top of your head. Get a life dude.
That’s a zing. 10 points for W.R. Locke.
Adolescents, mere adolescents with much more time than brains. Callowness sticks out all over them. No doubt native will not bother with the likes of Pearson & Lock again.